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Strange phenomenons with Cruise

Just bought the Cruise. Generally very happy with it. But, there are a few wierd things. Let me describe some of them:
1. When I'm in the Home tab and want to go to the Weather tab to check the situation it automatically wants download even if I've just done one a minute before. I can go into it six times in one minute and it will start to download each time. Normal?
2. When my Cruise has not been in use for some time, five minutes to half an hour and I want to use the phone I switch it on and find myself in a programme. It could be contacts or a third party programme that I have installed. To use the phone I have to exit the open programmes first. Normal?
3. I sometimes go into the Comm Manager and find that the Data Connection is on (for no reason). I'm getting a bit paranoid imagining that my phone bill is going to be high because of these situations. Normal?
Or is it just me?
Thanks
Brian

I have never noticed such the behavior, haven't read that anyone there in xda-dev board has noticed things like this. If you still have an original rom I would recommend you to do hard reset and to try to use your device without to install anything for some days to check how it will behave.

i would really recommend a hard reset. if u call them thats exactly what they gonna tell u

If this would be a pc I would think about some sort of trojan has got control over it.

Spamkit: There are NO trojans for Win Mobile. HTC Weather has a timeout of 2 Hours. Maybe O2 did something to the plugin to make it download more often and generate bills

BrianGM said:
Just bought the Cruise. Generally very happy with it. But, there are a few wierd things. Let me describe some of them:
1. When I'm in the Home tab and want to go to the Weather tab to check the situation it automatically wants download even if I've just done one a minute before. I can go into it six times in one minute and it will start to download each time. Normal?
Brian, what you need just to click on your prefferable city on Weather Tab, then go to Menu-Weather Options-remove tick on "Download weather data automatically"
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Try to disable "Download weather data automatically". It can be the cause of data connection activate so you can solve 2 problems at same time.
To do it, tap on your city in HTCHome; in next windows you should have a menu (Bottom right). In Menu Option and remove (by tapping it) flag near the voice Download Data Automatically.
So, you can decide when download data manually tapping the apposite function in HTCHome -weather main page.

No trojans?
TheOnly1 said:
Spamkit: There are NO trojans for Win Mobile.
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Is this a trojan
http://www.avertlabs.com/research/blog/index.php/2008/02/26/windows-mobile-trojan-sends-unauthorized-information-and-leaves-device-vulnerable/

BrianGM said:
Weather tab ... it automatically wants download ... six times in one minute and it will start to download
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As described, turn off auto-update. If turned on and you went over 2h with the last update, the Cruise tries to update every time you switch to the tab, unless you let it update. Then it'll try next in 2h.
I switch it on and find myself in a programme
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Do you lock the phone or just turn it off? Sounds like you inadvertedly start programs in your pocket when the Phone wakes up for some reason. I'd recommend to lock the screen before you turn off your phone. If you are unhappy with the built in lock, install S2U2 which is superior to the WinMo built in lock and will keep your phone locked unless you willingly unlock it. It's available here in the forums.
Comm Manager ... Data Connection is on (for no reason)
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This is in fact disturbing, I agree. Reason is probably the Weather Tab which tries to update in the background or do you use Push-Email or set Outlook to automatically check after a given amount of time? If all that doesnt matter to you and you just want the connection to be dead unless you want it to connect: try MoDaCo NoData. A handy tool which allows you to selectively disable and enable GPRS/3G-Connections. I attached it to this post.
sahoopes said:
Is this a trojan
http://www.avertlabs.com/research/b...zed-information-and-leaves-device-vulnerable/
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This reads like it is a trojan. But it's all bull: there is no silent or unattended installation possible on Windows Mobile. You'll always see the progressbar, and most probably you'd have to select where to install it to. What it does is turn the "Are you really...?"-screen off. So if you catch/caught it: it's your own fault...

schaggo said:
Do you lock the phone or just turn it off? Sounds like you inadvertedly start programs in your pocket when the Phone wakes up for some reason. I'd recommend to lock the screen before you turn off your phone. If you are unhappy with the built in lock, install S2U2 which is superior to the WinMo built in lock and will keep your phone locked unless you willingly unlock it. It's available here in the forums.
This is in fact disturbing, I agree. Reason is probably the Weather Tab which tries to update in the background or do you use Push-Email or set Outlook to automatically check after a given amount of time? If all that doesnt matter to you and you just want the connection to be dead unless you want it to connect: try MoDaCo NoData. A handy tool which allows you to selectively disable and enable GPRS/3G-Connections. I attached it to this post.
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Schaggo and all of you- Thanks for your amazing input. I have returned from being out there and I'll update what I've done.
1. Switched off the auto weather.
2. Set up the Mo Da Co programme and toggled off all possible access via my Service Provider. (I'll have to toggle off the service after I've used it, right?)
3. I do use Push-eMail, but I generally go into the Comm manager and switch off the Push-eMail service manually.
4. The only thing I'm not usre about is the setting of Outlook to automatically check for emails. Where does one switch it on to "manual"?
The business with locking: Is it a good thing? Since I have not tried it, how does it work? Once you have locked the phone and someone calls: Do you have to unlock before answering?
By the way, the stuff about the "Trojan" is BS, I think. So I'll stop there.
Thanks a lot for the help. I'll check it and get back to you with feedback.
Brian

Go into your mail and choose tools/options, choose the account in question and select send/recieve schedule. There you can set to manual.

BrianGM said:
3. I do use Push-eMail, but I generally go into the Comm manager and switch off the Push-eMail service manually.
4. The only thing I'm not usre about is the setting of Outlook to automatically check for emails. Where does one switch it on to "manual"?
The business with locking: Is it a good thing? Since I have not tried it, how does it work? Once you have locked the phone and someone calls: Do you have to unlock before answering?
By the way, the stuff about the "Trojan" is BS, I think. So I'll stop there.
Thanks a lot for the help. I'll check it and get back to you with feedback.
Brian
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Push-eMail means "as item arrives" setting in ActiveSync/Menu/Schedule. You can also specify Every .... minutes or Manually. Last one is connecting only when you start Send/Receive in Pocket Outlook.
S2U2 is great. Try it. It has Slide to Unlock feature and allows to answer calls same way. It's fully configurable to your needs and easy to uninstall if you don't like it. Had same problems and S2U2 helped.
Cheers

Opening data connection

Hi there - I'm working on a Flash Lite application for PocketPC, which is designed to have web connectivity and for a single use event.
I've discovered that the only way to initiate and then maintain a data connection for Flash Lite is to open an IE window on WM5 and refresh it on occasion, then refocussing back on the Flash app.
I've tried the persistent registry key hack, which works fine when there is a connection, and does maintain it - however my application is for people wandering around in and out of "signal" coverage areas. So I really need my app to re-trigger the data connection somehow.
Flash Lite 2.1 does have GetURL commands, which I'm using, but once the data connection dies, nothing appears to re-establish it. So I've added an indicator to show this problem... but its a shame it can't reconnect on its own.
Any ideas guys?
I've even thought about a work-around - like task switching and "refreshing" the IE http session using the hardware buttons, because that does seem to work, but obviously its not the best user experience really - and obviously I want to keep my application running fullscreen rather than showing IE during that process - and confuse the user.
I've messed around with PQzII, to try this - but its pretty hard to configure... and the author hasn't responded to any questions - and I'm not really that sure it will do what I need in "the background" if you see what I mean!
Has anyone tried something like this, is there a simple standard app I can launch that is already in the Pocket PC windows folder to kick start this using a hardware button trigger if no such reconnect is ever going to be possible in the FlashLite environment?
I've looked on the Adobe site, several people are having this issue already - and information is scarce unfortunately!

No Data????

Alright, I have been trying to get Modaco's Nodata CAB to work on my Wizard, but everytime I try it, it just gives me an error and doesn't work (it installs fine, but it won't work).
So, I'm looking for a fix... I don't have a data plan, and all I want to use the phone for are calls, SMS, and Wifi... anyone know a sure fire way to disable the data connection? (other than calling my provider)
Also, I posted this in another thread, but would the Comm Manager in my ROM work to disable data connections? It currently says that data connections are "off"... but I don't want to take the chance of it automatically turning on. But if the Comm Manager is actually capable of keeping the data connection off, then that should work for me, right? (the ROM that I am using is this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395173)
Thanks, and let me know if I need to provide more info or whatever. I just really need to try to avoid those kind of extra charges if I can.

You should just be able to put your phone in flight mode from your today screen with two taps. Tap your signal strength icon and then tap "Turn on flight mode."
As far as NoData is concerned: Is there anything else you've installed that might have similar functionality which could be conflicting with NoData? Also, the ROM you flashed is pretty bare. Are you sure your symptoms aren't from that ROM? I'd ask on that guy's thread, if I were you...
The only other thing I'd suggest is turning off automatic email downloads, and anything else you've installed that updates itself automatically (weather programs are NOTORIOUS for this, but any program is a potential suspect, so check them all). Just the email download is hitting the network a minimum of once every 60 minutes. Even without getting email, that's close to 2MB per month. That can add up to some hefty bill, especially while roaming.

Myrddin Wyllt said:
You should just be able to put your phone in flight mode from your today screen with two taps. Tap your signal strength icon and then tap "Turn on flight mode."
As far as NoData is concerned: Is there anything else you've installed that might have similar functionality which could be conflicting with NoData? Also, the ROM you flashed is pretty bare. Are you sure your symptoms aren't from that ROM? I'd ask on that guy's thread, if I were you...
The only other thing I'd suggest is turning off automatic email downloads, and anything else you've installed that updates itself automatically (weather programs are NOTORIOUS for this, but any program is a potential suspect, so check them all). Just the email download is hitting the network a minimum of once every 60 minutes. Even without getting email, that's close to 2MB per month. That can add up to some hefty bill, especially while roaming.
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Thanks for your reply. The Comm Manager has a button to turn on/off flight mode, so I should be able to do that pretty easily (I can reach the COMM Manager in 2 taps as well). It also has one to turn on/off Wifi, Bluetooth, Cellular Radio, and Data Connection (maybe one more, but I can't remember it at the moment... my Wizard is at home). My question concerning the Comm Manager is whether or not keeping the Data Connection setting "off" will act as a "disabler" (meaning, if I keep it off, it won't come on automatically or anything at any time unless I turn it on). If it truly does work like that all the time, then I should be set... I just don't know if it does or not.
The ROM is pretty bare, but I don't think I've downloaded anything that would conflict with NoData. The only CAB files I've put on there are SPB Mobile Shell 2.1, PCM Keyboard, TCPMP Player, Total Commander, and BatteryStatus. I know Mobile Shell has the Weather program, but so far it has only updated itself when I have synced it to my PC. I haven't set up my email yet, but I would definitely turn off automatic email downloads no matter what.
So basically, it all kind of depends on whether the "Data Connection" tab in my Comm Manager is capable of actually stopping my phone from connecting to the data network when I have it set to off. Or if there's a way to fix the NoData CAB, then that should work too. But if anyone knows any other options/solutions (again, other than calling AT&T and having them block all data... which I can do, but I'd rather just do it myself), please let me know.

It should work. I can't speak to the specifics of your ROM, so if it doesn't work, you'll have to take that up with the cook, not me.
You can easily test this, though. In the comm manager, turn off the phone radio. Then try to open your web browser, and surf to something (it caches the home page, so that's going to show up anyways...). If you get out, then the phone is accessing the network after you "turned it off."
Also did you see the note from the developer's post on MoDaCo.com?
Note that if you get bizarre registry errors on toggling, you need to app unlock your device (e.g. with SDA Application Unlocker).
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Myrddin Wyllt said:
It should work. I can't speak to the specifics of your ROM, so if it doesn't work, you'll have to take that up with the cook, not me.
You can easily test this, though. In the comm manager, turn off the phone radio. Then try to open your web browser, and surf to something (it caches the home page, so that's going to show up anyways...). If you get out, then the phone is accessing the network after you "turned it off."
Also did you see the note from the developer's post on MoDaCo.com?
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Yeah, I guess I just skimmed over that note at Modaco.com... but anyway, I tried it (using the SDA Application Unlock tool, which worked successfully) to no avail. The same error came up while trying to run the NoData CAB (I reinstalled it). The error reads:
NoData.exe
NullReferenceException
at NoData.frmMain.PopulateListBox()
at
NoData.frmMain.frmMain_Load(Object
sender, EventArgs e)
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System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnLoad(E
ventArgs e)
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System.Windows.Forms.Form._SetVisibl
eNotify(Boolean fVis)
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System.Windows.Forms.Control.set_Visi
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System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run
(Form fm)
at NoData.frmMain.Main()
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I still haven't tried your suggestion with the Comm Manager yet (kind of waiting for a response in that other thread first)... but it looks like the NoData CAB isn't going to work unless someone knows how to fix whatever the error message is saying.

awillquik said:
I still haven't tried your suggestion with the Comm Manager yet (kind of waiting for a response in that other thread first)... but it looks like the NoData CAB isn't going to work unless someone knows how to fix whatever the error message is saying.
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Since I don't think NoData is being actively developed any more, you're probably SOL for a repair/update from them...
Try this: delete both NoData and the App Unlocker. Install the App Unlocker again, then install NoData. The installation may have been fouled by the Wizard because app loading wasn't unlocked at the time.

you ALWAYS get error, when GPRS/etc settings are not SET.
this program is A MUST, and it is working FINE.

I think what nothin is trying to say in his (her?) exceptionally charming way, is that if you had done a Google search for your error and clicked on the very first link, some reading would reveal your problem.
While it could have been done without the e-screaming, nothin does have a point about doing a thorough search for solutions before posting.

Haha, it's fine, I probably need to have some sense knocked in to me once in a while. Thanks for all of your help though... I guess I just don't need the NoData CAB to avoid data plan charges. At least that is what it is looking like. But thanks again. And this thread can be closed or whatever.

Network selestion popup

For years i have owned WinMO devices and i have always been very happy with them, i have learned many tips & tricks here on this forum but there is one question i haven't found the answer to (yet).
I live close to the border and because of this my phone sometimes connects to te network of my neighbour country, which costs extra money (roaming).
Therefore i set my settings to "manual network connection" and chose my own network provider.
I don't mind having no signal when i drive trough another country, but i certainly dislike the windows network selection popup.
I do not want to select a different provider, i just want it to connect to my own without questions when it is in reach.
This annoying popup window opens regardless of what application my phone is running, it stops the music / movie / app and i have to press the x-button (OK on HD2) to get rid of it. 5 minutes later it will pop up again. This is especially annoying while driving.
I searched a lot on how to disable this, but so far i am not succesful.
On the other hand i am convinced you can disable this popup, maybe trough registry editing or installing a cab or whatever.
So excuses if the question was asked earlier and i may have overlooked it, but is there somebody who knows how to disable this popup??
Thanks in advance!!
Regards,
René

2G - 4G switch

Is there any app or widget that can automaticaly switch to 2G network when I turn off data, and automaticaly switch to 3G/4G when I trun on data ?
I've found many apps where they can switch between 2G-3G-4G but not automaticaly.

Tasker can do this.
This app might also work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/themes-apps/app-intelli3g-2g-3g-4g-toggle-battery-t2580234

That thread no longer exists. Tasker is quick and easy to do it with bro try that. Will save your manual toggle efforts as well.

sunny.0092 said:
That thread no longer exists. Tasker is quick and easy to do it with bro try that. Will save your manual toggle efforts as well.
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I've read about Tasker but is seems to need Root access in order to alter 2G - 3G - 4G
Can someone confirm/deny that changing network modes require root ?

yonef said:
I've read about Tasker but is seems to need Root access in order to alter 2G - 3G - 4G
Can someone confirm/deny that changing network modes require root ?
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Yes it does require root unfortunately, sorry for half baked info earlier. But that (rooting) seems to be the only way to get what you want and a lot more using tasker few similar apps n plugin.

sunny.0092 said:
Yes it does require root unfortunately, sorry for half baked info earlier. But that (rooting) seems to be the only way to get what you want and a lot more using tasker few similar apps n plugin.
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I use Automagic to drive the UI to flip between 3G and 4G. Root not required for this, but screen needs to be on and the phone unlocked for it to succeed (as if you were doing it manually). My Automagic flow/script waits for the right conditions (unlocked/screen on and, for me, the phone being away from or at home) and then I see it make the change. It's better than remembering to do it manually, anyway...

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I use Automagic to drive the UI to flip between 3G and 4G. Root not required for this, but screen needs to be on and the phone unlocked for it to succeed (as if you were doing it manually). My Automagic flow/script waits for the right conditions (unlocked/screen on and, for me, the phone being away from or at home) and then I see it make the change. It's better than remembering to do it manually, anyway...
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Is it possible to configure automagic to :
When I switch on DATA - do switch to 3G automaticaly (screen will be on and phone will be unlocked anyway)
When I switch off DATA - do wtitch to 2G straight away
I dont need nothing more.

yonef said:
Is it possible to configure automagic to :
When I switch on DATA - do switch to 3G automatically (screen will be on and phone will be unlocked anyway)
When I switch off DATA - do wtitch to 2G straight away
I dont need nothing more.
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My MXP only offers the user to switch between 4G and 3G - I don't know how to force it to 2G (I'm UK based)
Automagic does not seem to have a trigger to spot if you have set DATA on or off, but it DOES have an action which may work
The action Set Mobile Datanetwork State turns the mobile datanetwork on or off.
Warning: This function is not officially supported by Android and might not work on all devices.
So, if it works, you could create a shortcut of your own to toggle DATA on or off and also explicitly drive the UI to make other settings at the same time...
Automagic has a trial so you could try it. It's all based on flow diagrams which you edit to accomplish what you want, and has scripting too.
http://automagic4android.com/en/help/base-concepts
I moved to it from Llama, I couldn't get my head around Tasker, and haven't looked back. Both Dev and users are VERY responsive on the Automagic forum too
For example, here is my flow to control 3G/4G. It looks for my location set in another flow and the current network state, setting it appropriately.
http://goo.gl/iS2eBA
... and the script that drives the UI to check the radio button for 4G (if not already checked), return to what was on the screen before and set a global variable to the network type it set
http://goo.gl/UqCmC5

WibblyW said:
My MXP only offers the user to switch between 4G and 3G - I don't know how to force it to 2G (I'm UK based)
Automagic does not seem to have a trigger to spot if you have set DATA on or off, but it DOES have an action which may work
The action Set Mobile Datanetwork State turns the mobile datanetwork on or off.
Warning: This function is not officially supported by Android and might not work on all devices.
So, if it works, you could create a shortcut of your own to toggle DATA on or off and also explicitly drive the UI to make other settings at the same time...
Automagic has a trial so you could try it. It's all based on flow diagrams which you edit to accomplish what you want, and has scripting too.
http://automagic4android.com/en/help/base-concepts
I moved to it from Llama, I couldn't get my head around Tasker, and haven't looked back. Both Dev and users are VERY responsive on the Automagic forum too
For example, here is my flow to control 3G/4G. It looks for my location set in another flow and the current network state, setting it appropriately.
http://goo.gl/iS2eBA
... and the script that drives the UI to check the radio button for 4G (if not already checked), return to what was on the screen before and set a global variable to the network type it set
http://goo.gl/UqCmC5
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Thanks mate, I'll try it and see how it works