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Hi, first post on the forum so please be gentle with me....
I have an XDA Orbit 2 which was until last Thursday working fine with the last official upgrade from O2 (Win 6.1, no idea about all the other stuff).
Whilst using the phone last week it suddenly died in the middle of a conversation. It wouldn't power on at all. I took out the battery, waited a couple of minutes, put the battery back in and switched it on. All that happened was the phone displayed the 4 colour screen with "POLA200 SPL-3.13.0000 CPLD-2" in the red section and "Serial" in the white. I repeated the battery removal exercise a few times, waiting for increasing lengths of time but nothing changed.
I had a fairly long search through the forum and have tried for a few hours now going through the various fixes suggested but I am getting nowhere.
It won't hard reset, all that happens is the message "No Image Found" appears for a very short time and I then get stuck on the 4 coloured screen with the message above.
The same thing happens if I try just putting the thing in bootloader mode.
I can't use any of the official O2 rom upgrades as the phone because all the PCs I've tried connecting to it won't recognise it over a USB link.
I've tried connecting to it using mtty, again on several PCs, but I just get a message "USB port can not open". Just in case I've uninstalled Activesync on one PC and got the same answer.
The "how to flash you polaris using the microSD card" originally looked useful but I have some problems with it.
The first is that I need HardSPL installing on the device, which I can't do because I can't get to it.
The second will be down to me not knowing where to look, but I can't find a ROM to download and copy to the microSD card as POLAIMG.nbh. I did manage to find a Win6.5 one (the HTC Polaris - PDaviet rom wm6.5 manilla 2d (core 23004) by tranminhman one) which I thought I'd try. I guess the idea was that if I could just get something working I could always reflash it again with a different ROM or maybe apply the o2 upgrade. Unfortunately the image was password protected and I couldn't find the password in the thread.
I'm kind of at a loss now so any help would be appreciated.
Cheers
Hey,
Sorry i can't help much you'll need to do a lot of reading and troubleshooting...usually it's the onyl way to solve it by trying all options.
I'm just posting this message to bump it up in this forum, but more importantly you should be posting in the Iolite section for help with that specific device especially if you're trying other ROMs.
Also if it died on you and you haven't begun to flash it, can't you send it to the service for them to fix it for you? That way you can rule out any hardware malfunction.
Best of luck!
Alan
Did you do soft reset
alanazar said:
Hey,
Sorry i can't help much you'll need to do a lot of reading and troubleshooting...usually it's the onyl way to solve it by trying all options.
I'm just posting this message to bump it up in this forum, but more importantly you should be posting in the Iolite section for help with that specific device especially if you're trying other ROMs.
Also if it died on you and you haven't begun to flash it, can't you send it to the service for them to fix it for you? That way you can rule out any hardware malfunction.
Best of luck!
Alan
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Bit in bold er... cant quite understand why in iolite section as the xda orbit 2 is the rebrand htc touch cruise => htc touch find. Its in the right place.
On the side of what to do i the ony thing i can think of would be mtty and if that didnt work then try to reflash the official o2 6.1 release and see what happens when you try to do it.
You cant try to install any 3rd party roms they jsut wont flash as you dont have hard spl installed and cant do that until you have it running again.
Try the above and see what happens...
Hi Nik
I have tried just about every kind of reset, nothing has worked.
Hi Alan
If I can't get it sorted any other way I'll probably send it off somewhere but I'd like to have a go at fixing it myself. It will at least be a bit of fun!
I take then that I've posted this in the wrong forum. Oops, apologies.
Jon
You have not posted in the wrong forum look at my signature!
Hi jon,
Conclusion from post 1,
1) Uncompleted flash with new ROM or hardware problem (half way die)
2) Unsuccessful flash Hard SPL (cannot see Olinex 2.2 wording during bootloader)
3) Your PC & PDA fail to connect via USB (serial wording appear during bootloader)
Try this method,
1) Get shipped ROM from HTC web site, key in your country & serial behind battery
1a) Extract shipped ROM by WinRAR , take RUU Signed.nbh
2) Rename to POLAIMG.nbh put inside SD card, "flash using SD card"
3) Make sure your battery power more than 50% cause it take about 2 hours
Good luck, my friend
[Your request Password: TranMinhMan]
Nik Ahmad said:
Hi jon,
Conclusion from post 1,
1) Uncompleted flash with new ROM or hardware problem (half way die)
2) Unsuccessful flash Hard SPL (cannot see Olinex 2.2 wording during bootloader)
3) Your PC & PDA fail to connect via USB (serial wording appear during bootloader)
Try this method,
1) Get shipped ROM from HTC web site, key in your country & serial behind battery
2) Rename to POLAIMG.nbh put inside SD card, "flash using SD card"
3) Make sure your battery power more than 50% cause it take about 2 hours
Good luck, my friend
[Your request Password: TranMinhMan]
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Thanks Nik
I've had a bit of a look round the HTC site and couldn't see a ROM to download so I've asked their technical support people if there's anywhere to download it.
Fingers crossed they'll help.
Jon
jonfsharp said:
Thanks Nik
I've had a bit of a look round the HTC site and couldn't see a ROM to download so I've asked their technical support people if there's anywhere to download it.
Fingers crossed they'll help.
Jon
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Try to get official HTC ROM here, Select WWE (405) CID_001 for your country.
Good luck my friend
have u tried this?...
turn off, pull out the battery, then put it back, charge ur phone till the battery indicators shows green (which mean it's already fully charged) then... power on ur device.
it looks like a dumb suggestion , but... i have had a same situation
(HTC KAISER, not Polaris).
if it doesn't work, then try to upgrade with a POLAIMG.nbh (take it from official HTC ROM)
in a 2G FAT32 microSD root directory.
Nik Ahmad said:
Try to get official HTC ROM here, Select WWE (405) CID_001 for your country.
Good luck my friend
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Thanks Nik
Much appreciated.
Downloaded the ROM as suggested, unzipped to the SD card, renamed the image to POLAIMG.nbh, stuck it in the phone and things got slightly more interesting.
In bootloader mode I now get a bit further. I get a grey screen which says "Loading ..." then "Checking...." then "00028002 Not allow". It then goes back to the four coloured screen as before.
However, does the fact that it is trying to read something mean that I have just got the wrong file?
I'll try a few more and see what happens.
Thanks once again, your help is greatly appreciated.
Jon
Hi oza
Yep tried all the battery pulling out stuff but got nowhere.
The ROM thing on the SD card gets further. I extracted the ROM from the official O2 upgrade, stuck it on the card and renamed it POLAIMG.nbh.
If I put the phone in Bootloader mode I now get even further than before. I get a grey screen with:-
POLAIMG.nbh -
RADIO_V2 -
BOOTLOADER -
SPLASH1 -
OS -
Press power button to start update image
Press action button to cancel update image
If I press the power button
I get an "Update In Progress" message and a progress bar.
After about 4 minutes I get a full progress bar and :-
POLAIMG.nbh - OK
RADIO_V2 - OK
BOOTLOADER - OK
SPLASH1 - OK
OS - OK
Update complete
UPDATE SUCCESS
And that's as far as I've got so far.
If I take the SD card out and try a hard reset I just get stuck on the 4 coloured screen I got before, but with no No Image Found message.
I get the same thing with bootloader mode and when I just remove the battery.
If I put the SD card back in I can go through the update process but I can't do anything
else.
So, have I actually made any progress? I'm not actually sure what I have updated and what state the phone is in at the moment. Is the fact that this didn't work an indication of a hardware failure and I should send it off somewhere.
Any advice on next steps would be good.
Jon
what is ur bootloader screen says now?
IPL...
SPL...
Before you can be helped you need to supply this information:
What rom were you using when it died?
What SPL are you using?
You used MITTY and fixes so I assume you're not a complete nunce and have hard spl on your phone, so on that assumption and ONLY if you have hard spl on your phone, try this:
If it isnt a hardware problem, then Its possible you have a dodgy radio flash issue - normally that would have been caused by a bad flash, but you indicated that this happened in use.
Provided it isnt a hardware, to fix this you need to either flash the radio (less reliable, but try it) rename the radio file to POLAIMG.nbh as directed before and stick on SD card.
The other thing to try is to flash a rom with a radio INCLUDED in it. Try and avoid fancy 6.5 beta roms and stick to 6.0 and 6.1 basic roms.
I believe Chavonbravo's VLIT roms come with the radio so try that. Its listed in the forum. I'm not providing links as I dont know what radio you were using and you really need to go for like to like or close. My preference is 1.59.44.02 radio rom if you find one.
Let us know how you do.
Lastly what radio and rom did you have?
Try this one M-AMINES if the radio you had was a 1.59.xx radio as it has the radio included.
if it was a 1.65.xx radio then try the VLIT naked rom.
oza_crazy said:
what is ur bootloader screen says now?
IPL...
SPL...
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Hi Oza
Exactly the same as it did when it first broke. I get the 4 coloured screen with "POLA200 SPL-3.13.0000 CPLD-2" in the red section and "Serial" in the white.
No idea what the IPL is or was I'm afraid.
Jon
bally3 said:
Before you can be helped you need to supply this information:
What rom were you using when it died?
What SPL are you using?
You used MITTY and fixes so I assume you're not a complete nunce and have hard spl on your phone, so on that assumption and ONLY if you have hard spl on your phone, try this:
If it isnt a hardware problem, then Its possible you have a dodgy radio flash issue - normally that would have been caused by a bad flash, but you indicated that this happened in use.
Provided it isnt a hardware, to fix this you need to either flash the radio (less reliable, but try it) rename the radio file to POLAIMG.nbh as directed before and stick on SD card.
The other thing to try is to flash a rom with a radio INCLUDED in it. Try and avoid fancy 6.5 beta roms and stick to 6.0 and 6.1 basic roms.
I believe Chavonbravo's VLIT roms come with the radio so try that. Its listed in the forum. I'm not providing links as I dont know what radio you were using and you really need to go for like to like or close. My preference is 1.59.44.02 radio rom if you find one.
Let us know how you do.
Lastly what radio and rom did you have?
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I've not been a big modifier in the past so it was just using the bog standard O2 software from the O2 website. The name of the file is "RUU_Polaris_O2_UK_3.13.206.0_radio_sign_25.85.30.07_1.59.42.15_Ship.exe" so I presume that there can be information gleaned about things like the SPL, ROM and radio versions?
Not a complete nunce, no, but so very far away from being comfortable with all this. This post was a result of a good few hours trawling through the forums looking for help. Anything I have done has been the result of a post on this site and I am very grateful that there are people willing to share their knowledge.
Anyway, as for hard spl, nope it isn't installed. I'd never needed anything like it before the phone died and now that it has died I can't get onto it to install anything.
Yes, this happened right in the middle of a conversation after a good year or so of normal day to day use. As I said, I haven't needed to make any changes to the phone so the only thing I've ever done is upgraded it with software from the O2 site.
I'm beginning to suspect that without Hard spl my options are very limited and pointing towards either sending it off for costly repairs or just binning the thing. I am probably wrong but I'm guessing that the fact that I don't have it installed is the reason why nothing is happening with the "Update in progress" stuff that is happening now.
Radio & ROM, as above. Whatever the O2 update provided. From the filename radio would be 1.59.42.15.
Many thanks
Jon
jonfsharp said:
I'm beginning to suspect that without Hard spl my options are very limited and pointing towards either sending it off for costly repairs or just binning the thing. I am probably wrong but I'm guessing that the fact that I don't have it installed is the reason why nothing is happening with the "Update in progress" stuff that is happening now.
Radio & ROM, as above. Whatever the O2 update provided. From the filename radio would be 1.59.42.15.
Many thanks
Jon
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Well whatever you do dont bin it, we can always use it on the Android project if you decide to go that way.
Ok.. so lets see.. the phone is not picked up at all in windows?
If that is the case, if even a serial connection cant be made then theres issues. At this point, I would disregard all the other advice as it only applies to a hard spl device unfortunately. SD card flashing and all other radio rom flashing will only work with hard spl as far as I know - definitely safer for certain and you dont want to wreck a repairable device.
I take it, its not under warranty, for your mention of costly repair.
The important thing at this stage is a serial or usb connection from a Windows PC. I think I have heard of forcing this connection by opening the device but this would really be in the realms of profficient repairer or enthusiast.
I'll have a look but also do some searching yourself for making a connection to a Windows PC and forcing an SPL onto a phone.
I dont know whether anyone's ever managed to HardSPL a phone using a memory card? Just a thought...
Who would have known.. have a read of this and see if you can follow it up regarding the spl through sd card ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3273438&postcount=7
PLEASE READ THE *FAQ* BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS OR LOOK AT *THIS* THREAD THANKS TO RZASHARP
ALSO DEFINITELY CHECK OUT THE COMPLETE VIDEO GUIDE TO EVERYTHING *HERE* THANKS TO [★]
This Guide is designed ONLY for HD2 with 512 Mbytes ROM. If you are unsure then goto Settings, System, Device Information, Hardware Information and look at the Flash Size.
If you have a LEO with 1024MB ROM then please use *THIS* guide.
Before starting, backup anything you might want to keep after the new Rom has been flashed as all contacts, emails, texts, notes, Internet BookMarks WILL be lost!!
PimBackup is good and free (copy any mms attachments to your storage card or computer seperately)
*ONCE YOU HAVE FLASHED A HARDSPL ITS PERMANENT. YOU DONT NEED TO DO IT AGAIN WHEN FLASHING NEW ROMS OR RADIOS*
*DO NOT start another process while the flashing process is taking place*
*DO NOT click off of the status bar... Let it stay in the foreground*
*DO NOT let the Screensaver (on your pc) activate*
Any of these can lead to a bad flash and possibly brick your phone
*FLASH HARDSPL BEFORE FLASHING ANY CUSTOM ROMS OR RADIOS*
1. YOUR DEVICE MUST HAVE AT LEAST 50% BATTERY POWER FIRST BEFORE ATTEMPTING EACH STAGE
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2. FLASH HARDSPL (REQUIRED!! DO THIS BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE)
The Original HardSPL Thread is *HERE*
NOTE: If you have Vista or Windows 7, update WMDC to v6.1 *HERE* first
NOTE: Turn OFF any AntiVirus Program first as it WILL interefere with the flash (there is NO harmful code in the program)
Installing HardSPL4 via ActiveSync with USB Lead (thanks to Bepe)
Note: HardSPL CANNOT be installed via microSD Card.
IMPORTANT: To install/uninstall this HSPL3 there must be any SPL version from this list on your device:
SPL 1.42.0000, SPL 1.62.0000, SPL 1.66.0000, SPL 2.07.0000, SPL 2.08.0000, SPL 2.10.0000, SPL 3.03.000
To Uninstall you can flash a Stock ROM via SD card or use HSPL3 application (You need select 2.08.0000 or 3.03.0000 in the choose screen)
1. Download HardSPL4 package from *HERE* and extract to an empty folder
2. Synch Phone with PC in Windows Mobile!!! It has to be connected to activesync or WMDC via USB cable
3. Run HSPL4.exe from your pc and read all the text carefully
4. When finished reading click next in the HardSPL program
5. The program will now check the usb connection and enter bootloader screen (tri colour)
*You can select between 2.08.HSPL 2.08.0000 HSPL3.03.0000 or 3.03.HSPL. This is to avoid people with 1024LEO's installing an incompatable version and bricking their device*
Android / WP7 / MAGLDR don't support HSPL3.03/OSPL3.03.
You need HSPL2.08 to run Android / WP7 / MAGLDR
6. Select 2.08.HSPL OR 3.03HSPL for HardSPL and click NEXT.
7. Your choice will be flashed to your phone.
8. When its finished the phone will reboot.
9. Click ok to terminate program.
10. Congrats, you just flashed HardSPL.
NOTE: You can also install HARDSPL by entering Bootloader mode manually, then running the HSPL4.exe program once you see 'USB' at the bottom of the tri-colour screen.
*Go into BootLoader Mode (turn off phone, then press and hold the VOLUME DOWN then Press and hold the POWER button. After about 3 seconds the tri-coloured screen should appear). Verify the screen shows the SPL or HardSPL you installed*
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To Remove HardSPL from your Device or Flash back a Stock Rom and Stock SPL for Warranty Purposes
You can remove the HSPL by flashing an original SPL from microSD card OR by running the HSPL4 application (You need select 2.08.0000 or 3.03.0000 in the choose screen).
* You can also use the microSD Card method to flash back your Stock Rom and Stock SPL that you originally had on your phone*
- Download a shipped Rom from *HERE*
- Rename the extension to .zip
- open it with winzip and extract the RUU_signed.nbh file to a folder
- Rename it to LEOIMG.nbh and copy it to the root of a microSD card thats been formatted to FAT32
- Insert your storage card into your phone
- Enter Bootloader and follow onscreen instructions to flash
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3. DOWNLOAD AND FLASH YOUR PREFERED ROM
NOTE: Check the Roms Thread for any specific Flashing instructions. If there arent any then you can use the following guide.
Flashing Via ActiveSync
1. Download your prefered Rom from the LEO Rom Develpoment Page and unzip/unrar it to your computer
2. REMOVE SIM and microSD CARDS!! (this is a precautionary measure and is not compulsory)
3. Turn phone back on and wait until it syncs with your PC
4a. If your Rom is a .exe (customRUU.exe is already included in the Rom file) then run the file
4b. If your Rom is a .nbh file then run the CustomRUU.exe from the Roms Folder (if one isnt included then download it *HERE*)
5. Follow onscreen instructions to set up your New Rom
6. Once phone has gone through the customisation procedure then replace Sim and microSD Cards
7. Perform a Hard Reset to clear any leftover data from your previous Rom (see intructions at bottom).
8. Set up phone as required and job done.
Flashing Via MicroSD Card
NOTE (PLEASE READ): If you flash a Stock Rom via microSD Card then it will overwrite your HardSPL with a stock SPL included in the nbh file. This does not apply to custom roms as they do not include an SPL. BE CAREFUL!!
1. Make sure your microSD is Formatted to fat32 (you dont have to delete all files but it is safer if you do)
2. Download your prefered Rom from the LEO Rom Develpoment Page and unzip/unrar it to your PC
3. Goto the Roms Folder and rename the .nbh file to LEOIMG.nbh
4. Copy the LEOIMG.nbh file to the root of your MicroSD Card
5. Plug the MicroSD Card into the phone
6. Reset the device while pressing the volume down button to enter the BootLoader screen, you will first see a tri-color screen with the phone and SPL Information at the top
7. Follow the On Screen instructions to start the update
8. After flash has completed, press the reset button with the stylus to reset the device.
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4. FLASH PREFERED RADIO (OPTIONAL)
For more information about compatible Radios go *HERE*
Flashing Via ActiveSync
1. Download your required Radio and rename the extracted file to RUU_Signed.nbh
2. Sync your phone with the PC
3. Run CustomRUU.exe from the Radio's Folder and follow the instructions (if one isnt included then download it *HERE*)
Flashing via MicroSD Card
Use same method as Flashing a Rom via MicroSD Card
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5. JOB DONE. Well Done YOU DID IT!!
Useful Information
How to get into your Bootloader
1. Turn your phone off
2. Press and hold the VOLUME DOWN then Press and hold the POWER button. After about 3 seconds the tri-coloured screen should appear.
3. To exit Bootloader you need to remove your back cover and pull the battery out for a few seconds, then replace it and press the power button to reboot your phone.
How to perform a HardReset
Hard Resetting deletes ALL personal data and settings and restores your phone to factory default conditions as if you turned on the phone for the first time after purchasing.
1. With the device turned off, press and hold the VOLUME UP and VOLUME DOWN buttons, then briefly press the POWER button.
2. Continue pressing the VOLUME UP and VOLUME DOWN buttons until you see this message on the screen:
"This operation will delete all your personal data, and reset all settings to the manufacturer default settings. Press VolUp to restore manufacturer defaults, or press other keys to cancel."
3. Release the VOLUME UP and VOLUME DOWN buttons.
4. Press the VOLUME UP button to perform the hard reset, or press any other button to cancel the reset.
You can also use Clear Storage to reset your device back to factory default settings.
1. On the Home screen, slide to the Settings tab and then tap Menu > All Settings.
2. On the System tab, tap Clear Storage.
3. Enter “1234” and then tap Yes.
Make sure you back up all your data such as Contacts, Appointments, messages etc or they will be gone forever.
*DISCLAIMER*
I take no responsibility for any fault or damage caused by any procedures within this guide. No warranties of any kind are given.
FAQ FOR FLASHING HTC HD2 (LEO)
Q. I can't get it working I need help.
A. If you need help you do need to provide as much detailed information as possible or we cant do anything.
What process are you trying to do? Installing HardSPL? Flashing Radio? Flashing Rom?
List each step you completed and where you got the error with the exact error code you was given if you got one.
Also exactly what operating system do you have on your pc?
If you do not provide this and just leave a message saying "I cant get it working, what do I do?" then I will know you havent looked at the FAQ before posting and you will be referred here.
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Q. What is a Radio?
A: The Radio is the Firmware that works between the Operating System and the Cellular Hardware. It handles the Sound, Camera, GPS, Bluetooth, Wifi, Phone Calls, etc. The Radio must be compatable with the ROM's Operating System or you may experience problems with your sound and camera.
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Q: What is the difference between SPL, SSPL and HardSPL?
A: SPL (secondary program loader) is part of the firmware that allows your phone to flash Roms, Radios, Splash Screens. Carrier locked so you can only use it to flash Roms from your own carrier.
SSPL (soft secondary program loader) is a temporary way to allow your phone to flash custom roms only (not radios). This doesnt give your phone the protection that HardSPL gives you.
HardSPL (as the name sugests) is installed permanently and allows you to flash anything to your phone. Its patched to protect you against bricking in the event of a bad flash and will let you get back into the bootloader to restore your system when a stock SPL wont. Always the best thing to have.
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Q: What is the difference between ROM and RADIO?
A: The Rom is the operating system and included patches, tweaks and programs. The Radio is a seperate part of the firmware on the phone that handles all communation related matters such as signal, gps, bluetooth, camera, wifi and sound. Newer Radios to include improvements or fixes in older version, or even just to compliment an existing Rom or network so a newer Radio isnt neccessarily better. Radios also need to be matched to the correct Rom so you cant just put any Radio and Rom together.
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Q: How do Stock ROMS differ from Cooked ROMS?
A: Stock Roms usually have extra 'bloatware' added which take up extra space on the phone. Custom Roms are stripped down to provide more space and most are tweaked to provide a faster more stable Operating System. Every chef is different so you have to look around the forums to see which Rom is best for your needs.
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Q: What happens if I flash a Stock Rom via microSD Card?
A: Flashing a stock rom via microsd card will overwrite your rom, radio, splashscreen and SPL with the ones included on the stock rom. With previous devices I believe the HardSPL couldnt be overwritten this way but as bepe developed this version it must have been done differently. Stock Roms can safely be flashed via activesync and this method will flash the Rom, Radio and SPlashscreen but will not overwrite the HardSPL with a Stock SPL.
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Q: Can I download official roms from the HTC Website?
A: Use the following serial number on the respective HTC site (thanks to mooooooa):
World Wide English (WWE) - Serial: HT9AZNW00968
South East Asia (Asian WWE) - Serial:HT01XNW03437
Denmark: (DAN) - Serial: HT9B6NW00167
Norway: (NOR) - Serial: HT9C7NW01234
France: (FRA) - Serial: HT9BLNW00122
Spain: (SPA) - Serial: HT9BDNW00592
Italy: (ITA) - Serial: HT9BCNW00722
Greek: (ELL) - Serial: HT9BMNW00059
Germany: (GER) - Serial: HT9B9NW00374
Netherlands: (NLD) - Serial: HT9AVNW01232
Russian: (RUS) - Serial: HT9BCNW00012
Turkey: (TUR) - Serial: HT9CMNW05766
East Europe: (WWE_EastEurope) - Serial: HT9B3NW02204
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Hi Guys. I posted the text below a few days ago in the general section/questions thread but it seams the thread is not so popular .
I just got my hands on the pre-production LEO device (demo device I guess) and I have a couple of questions (this is my first WiMo phone, I have experience with Android and Symbian devices).
Pre-production devices seem to be "unlocked". Besides being SIM unlocked it seems to be SuperCID-ed as well. The latter obviously allows me to flash stock ROMs regardless of the county signature, right?
Now how about cooked ROMs? I persume I would need HardSPL as any other production device? Or does SuperCID have anything to do with the HardSPL?
or
Having the SuperCID-ed device I don't need the GoldCard?
I have tried searching the forum but I believe that my lack of WiMo terminology is slowing me down.
Thanks for any input in advance.
Hi I was hoping you could answer a few of my queries on flashing ect
1. SSPL seems like a better path to go down as it stops any warranty voiding, which means I can still get my phone repaired in the future - good . However how come most people always wait for HSPL? Im guessing its because HSPL only has to be ran once or something, so everytime you want a new rom from then on, theres no need to flash so no risk of bricking? Whats the pro's and con's of using HSPL or SSPL ? ( I personally was more keen on SSPL as my warranty isnt affected )
2. How come some rom chefs say that their roms cant be used with SSPL and you have to wait for HSPL ???
3. What are the possible errors/outcomes when something goes wrong when flashing with SSPL? how does a phone become bricked and are there any ways to recover it?
4. Whats with goldcard? is that only when someone needs to flash official roms if there particular leo is branded to a particular GSM? Mine is an unbranded, unlocked model so will I never have to worry about goldcard?
5. If my device does become bricked and there are no ways to unbrick it, what can I do to get a repair ect? someone suggested bunging it in a microwave for 10 seconds and then sending it off under my warraty claiming that I turned the phone off one day, and the next it wouldnt turn on (seems quite a clever idea, but a little extreme)
6. Can someone explain to me all about the radio? it seems to be a key part in flashing. What is it exactly, Im guessing its more complex than the fm radio lol, but I dont understand what it does to the phone, and I see only certain radio versions and compatible with certain rom versions. Also I see that flashing wih SSPL means you can only change OS's and splash screens, so will that create certain problems if you want change the radio version?
7. Im planning on flashing to THIS rom, for speed and performance while keeping some eye candy (Also I want to try windows mobile 6.5.3) is this a good choice?
Thanks all my questions for now, I would be SO appreciative if you guys could help me out as flashing is quite a scary concept for a £500 device
I hope someone will help me
GregorVucajnk said:
Hi Guys. I posted the text below a few days ago in the general section/questions thread but it seams the thread is not so popular .
I just got my hands on the pre-production LEO device (demo device I guess) and I have a couple of questions (this is my first WiMo phone, I have experience with Android and Symbian devices).
Pre-production devices seem to be "unlocked". Besides being SIM unlocked it seems to be SuperCID-ed as well. The latter obviously allows me to flash stock ROMs regardless of the county signature, right?
Now how about cooked ROMs? I persume I would need HardSPL as any other production device? Or does SuperCID have anything to do with the HardSPL?
or
Having the SuperCID-ed device I don't need the GoldCard?
I have tried searching the forum but I believe that my lack of WiMo terminology is slowing me down.
Thanks for any input in advance.
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If your phone has been CID Unlocked (SuperCID) then you will be able to flash Stock Roms from other carriers but I think you will still need to use SSPL to flash Cooked Roms.
Hope that helps.
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Hi I was hoping you could answer a few of my queries on flashing ect
1. SSPL seems like a better path to go down as it stops any warranty voiding, which means I can still get my phone repaired in the future - good . However how come most people always wait for HSPL? Im guessing its because HSPL only has to be ran once or something, so everytime you want a new rom from then on, theres no need to flash so no risk of bricking? Whats the pro's and con's of using HSPL or SSPL ? ( I personally was more keen on SSPL as my warranty isnt affected )
2. How come some rom chefs say that their roms cant be used with SSPL and you have to wait for HSPL ???
3. What are the possible errors/outcomes when something goes wrong when flashing with SSPL? how does a phone become bricked and are there any ways to recover it?
4. Whats with goldcard? is that only when someone needs to flash official roms if there particular leo is branded to a particular GSM? Mine is an unbranded, unlocked model so will I never have to worry about goldcard?
5. If my device does become bricked and there are no ways to unbrick it, what can I do to get a repair ect? someone suggested bunging it in a microwave for 10 seconds and then sending it off under my warraty claiming that I turned the phone off one day, and the next it wouldnt turn on (seems quite a clever idea, but a little extreme)
6. Can someone explain to me all about the radio? it seems to be a key part in flashing. What is it exactly, Im guessing its more complex than the fm radio lol, but I dont understand what it does to the phone, and I see only certain radio versions and compatible with certain rom versions. Also I see that flashing wih SSPL means you can only change OS's and splash screens, so will that create certain problems if you want change the radio version?
7. Im planning on flashing to THIS rom, for speed and performance while keeping some eye candy (Also I want to try windows mobile 6.5.3) is this a good choice?
Thanks all my questions for now, I would be SO appreciative if you guys could help me out as flashing is quite a scary concept for a £500 device
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1. HardSPL is always the best way to go if available as once you have it on your phone theres minimal chance of bricking than flashing without it as you will always be able to get back into the bootloader to flash a stock rom if anything goes wrong. Even if you put HardSPL on your phone you can always flash back a stock SPL in the event you need to return it for warantee purposes.
2. I would guess that those Roms include maybe a Splash Screen or Radio which cant be flashed using SSPL.
3. Theres always a chance that something can go wrong in whatever you do. HardSPL gives you the ability to get back into the bootloader and flash a stock rom if you need to recover your device.
4. GoldCard is for flashing Stock Roms from other carriers. If your phone is unlocked then that means it is sim unlocked and not carrier unlocked (SuperCID) therefore you would still need to use goldcard if you wanted to flash a Rom that isnt directly from your carrier.
5. If your phone does become bricked and you dont have HardSPL to recover it then there are many ways you can try to get a new one under warantee. My favourite is pouring sulphuric acid over it and saying aliens broke into your house and tried mating with it but you can go with your own idea if you want to lol.
6. The Radio really isnt a radio haha. Its a seperate firmware that handles all the communication related parts of the phone. This includes the signal, bluetooth, wifi, sound, camera and gps. Until HardSPL is released the only way to change the Radio is to flash a stock rom which always includes a radio via goldcard method.
7. Thats the cooked Rom I flashed on my phone yesterday and its a very fast and stable Rom with no bugs that I can see. The download exe file includes the SSPL so unless you want to change the radio first its just a case of synching and flashing.
Hope these answers helped and good luck with your flash. The first one is always the hardest but do everything by the book and you shouldnt have any problems
Thanks for all the help, Im glad I didnt flash with SSPL just yet, I think I will wait for HSPL as it seems that I can still get my warranty back with it (but I just thought, what if you had to send it in for it not turning on or something, and they found a way to get it running, they would then see the spl was changed as I would not have had the chance to change it back)
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4. GoldCard is for flashing Stock Roms from other carriers. If your phone is unlocked then that means it is sim unlocked and not carrier unlocked (SuperCID) therefore you would still need to use goldcard if you wanted to flash a Rom that isnt directly from your carrier.
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that isnt directly from your carrier? what do you mean, mines totally unbranded and sim free ect, so It doesnt come from a carrier, meaning I dont need goldcard right?
(Heres another question while your around, I went to send a massive text to all my contacts, ( I changed it in the registry so I could have more than 10 recipetents so thats not the problem) wishing them a happy new year, and It appears that it is not working, even after applying the hotfix some messages are in the outbox and some in the sent items folder. Whats with that?
Thanks so much for answering, especially this early in the year/morning (haha) happy new year to you sir!
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Thanks for all the help, Im glad I didnt flash with SSPL just yet, I think I will wait for HSPL as it seems that I can still get my warranty back with it (but I just thought, what if you had to send it in for it not turning on or something, and they found a way to get it running, they would then see the spl was changed as I would not have had the chance to change it back)
that isnt directly from your carrier? what do you mean, mines totally unbranded and sim free ect, so It doesnt come from a carrier, meaning I dont need goldcard right?
(Heres another question while your around, I went to send a massive text to all my contacts, ( I changed it in the registry so I could have more than 10 recipetents so thats not the problem) wishing them a happy new year, and It appears that it is not working, even after applying the hotfix some messages are in the outbox and some in the sent items folder. Whats with that?
Thanks so much for answering, especially this early in the year/morning (haha) happy new year to you sir!
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If it was sim free then you might be ok flashing any stock rom but I cant garentee it. It will soon tell you if you cant so give it a go.
Might just be overloaded as there are quite a few people texting at this time and I havent been able to send a text on my phone for the last hour lol. Thats why I always send mine out early to beat the queue
Happy new year to you too I hope you have a great one
So many thanks
So many thanks.Happy new year....
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If it was sim free then you might be ok flashing any stock rom but I cant garentee it. It will soon tell you if you cant so give it a go.
Might just be overloaded as there are quite a few people texting at this time and I havent been able to send a text on my phone for the last hour lol. Thats why I always send mine out early to beat the queue
Happy new year to you too I hope you have a great one
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ok maybe thats it but whatever, I might try and apply some fixes for the sms ive seen around here. Hey when do you think the HSPL will be out, Im itching to flash my device
Official ROM upgrade - error 260
I have downloaded the official 1.48 upgrade exe from HTC. I have a choice of computers, win 7 64 bit or win xp 32 bit on which to do the update. I have tried both following the instructions within the package and both get to the verification stage and stop with error 260 - no connection. Can anyone tell me precisely what to do to get around this?
My HTC is a purchased unlocked device and I can explore the 16 GB card via Explorer on either PC
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I have downloaded the official 1.48 upgrade exe from HTC. I have a choice of computers, win 7 64 bit or win xp 32 bit on which to do the update. I have tried both following the instructions within the package and both get to the verification stage and stop with error 260 - no connection. Can anyone tell me precisely what to do to get around this?
My HTC is a purchased unlocked device and I can explore the 16 GB card via Explorer on either PC
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I would recommend using the windows xp system to flash as its more stable.
What method did you use to flash the Rom? You need to do it via GoldCard method described just follow the link in the first post and follow all the instructions to the letter.
mikashakira said:
So many thanks.Happy new year....
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Happy new year to you too and the best for 2010
MSkip
I was following the instructions given in the ROM Upgrade software downloaded from the HTC site. It undertakes a verification of your phone software, but for some reason keeps saying it cannot connect with it. I had it connected via a USB cable. Maybe I need to speak with HTC on Monday.
I thought it might be Kaspersky stopping it, but switching that off didn't fix it. Perhaps I haven't got the computer sync'd correctly with the phone. Its not very obvious.
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MSkip
I was following the instructions given in the ROM Upgrade software downloaded from the HTC site. It undertakes a verification of your phone software, but for some reason keeps saying it cannot connect with it. I had it connected via a USB cable. Maybe I need to speak with HTC on Monday.
I thought it might be Kaspersky stopping it, but switching that off didn't fix it. Perhaps I haven't got the computer sync'd correctly with the phone. Its not very obvious.
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Even if you have an unlocked phone you may still have to use the goldcard method to flash a stock rom.
SOLVED
Simply needed to instal WMDC.
dixie dean said:
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Simply needed to instal WMDC.
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yh that would help lol
Has anyone got any ideas on when a hspl is coming out?
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Has anyone got any ideas on when a hspl is coming out?
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No set date you will just have to be patient like the rest of us
Hi
I'm the very proud owner of a HTC HD2.
When trying to install most tweeks / .cabs the phone says unsuccessful cannot install due to invalid or no certificate.
I have CERegEditor installed on PC. is there a simple reg change or app to overcome this? I have searched in this forum...but not been able to find.
Many thanks..
Rob
Hi and welcome to XDA fellow tmobile uk user
tmobile blocks changes to the registry, there are 2 solutions to this
a cab file is a simple installation file for your phone, people here will make these tweaks into cab files, download them from the device and install them onto your device and restart the phone
the other solution is to flash your phone to another rom, either stock rom or custom rom makes no difference
i am currently using artemis 5.5 and it is 10000x better than the tmobile stock rom
hope this helps!
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Hi and welcome to XDA fellow tmobile uk user
tmobile blocks changes to the registry, there are 2 solutions to this
a cab file is a simple installation file for your phone, people here will make these tweaks into cab files, download them from the device and install them onto your device and restart the phone
the other solution is to flash your phone to another rom, either stock rom or custom rom makes no difference
i am currently using artemis 5.5 and it is 10000x better than the tmobile stock rom
hope this helps!
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hi Mr CGREC92....
If you do flash the rom, say, to the latest official HTC updated ROM, does this create problems with your warranty on the Tmobile phone?
thanks cgrec92,
any problems in flashing an new radio or rom on uk tmobile? how about getting tmobile setting ?
Bandare and RobLion, flashing the first time may be a scary thing but I assure you its much easier than you think and the whole process lasts about 5 minutes.
The phone and text messaging settings are on the SIM card, not on the phone, flashing a new ROM will not affect this.
As soon as the phone turns on for the first time after a flash, it prompts you to connect to the Internet using your data connection. Select your operator from the list as Tmobile and the phone will do the rest for you.
To summarize, nothing changes to your phone, text, or internet settings.
You will however need to perform a hard reset after a flash which wipes data from your phone such as your contacts, photos and text messages. A simple backup program, I use Microsoft MyPhone will back all this up in a couple of minutes, and after the flash you can re-download them.
After that all that's left to do is add in all your little shortcuts to the People Tab and Internet Quicklinks etc
Job complete
The flashing will void your warranty, but you can return to how the phone was in a couple of minutes, thus getting your warranty back, i'll explain
To flash your phone, you will download a little program from the first post on this forum called HSPL which modifies the bootloader of the phone allowing you to install any ROM you want
If you send your phone off for repair, the first thing these people check is your SPL, if they see it has been changed to HSPL they will not repair your phone. But by flashing your phone with the original tmobile rom that came with the phone (downloaded from the second post on this forum) through the microSD card will restore the SPL and your original ROM, voila your warranty is restored
To flash your phone, you will download a program called CustomRUU and a .nbh file, put these both into the same folder and connect your phone by USB to your computer, do not flash through the microSDcard unless you are trying to restore your warranty because this will change other settings on the phone, unlike the USB method will simply install the new ROM. Connect your phone through Active Sync, then run CustomRUU and follow the instructions
Your phone will then install the ROM
Hard reset (As soon as you turn the phone on, hold down VolUp and VolDown)
Your phone will now be nice and fresh with your new awesome ROM
Hope this helps, it's much easier than it sounds, follow the sticky threads for installing a Custom ROm and HSPL for more detailed info
Oh and let's not forget the advantages of this
Instead of that crappy Web'N'Walk you will have Opera
You will have the YouTube app
You will have more freedom and a MUCH MUCH MUCH more stable and fast ROM
cgrec92,
I can not thank you enough for taking the time to give advice. I'm thinking of installing EnergyROM....what made you chose artemis?
no problem mate, ive been in your situation not a couple of weeks ago
flashing is the best thing you can do for your phone in my opinion
and after a bit of flashing you can familiarize yourself with the MTTY process and make the process even faster!
energy rom is very good, its one of the best out there, I have however heard there are some issues with fast battery drain? but above all its a very good rom
i use artemis 5.5 because it is almost identical to the original rom that comes with the phone, with tweaks to make it more stable, MUCH faster and smoother, everything updated, has a document reader tab, in my opinion it's the most stable
I have been using for some 5 days now and have found NO bugs whatsoever
as opposed to the odd 80 bugs in the tmobile ROM
its all a matter of taste my friend, if you dont like the energy rom, install another one!
theyre all being constantly updated with the latest updates, builds, and tweaks
flashing is fun!
oh and I forgot to add that some custom ROM's require a specific radio and this must be flashed before the ROM is installed, this is dead simple and takes half a minute
let me explain
a radio is a piece of software which controls communications such as phone calls, text messaging, 3G, internet etc. different radios have different effects, for example better signal, better battery life, better data handling
if i remember correctly the t-mobile rom comes with radio v 2.04
at the moment there is a radio v 2.08 again it's a matter of preference, find which one gives you the best signal and battery life!
to install is simple, the radio comes in a .nbh aswell, usually about 25mb which is very small
just like installing a ROM, put this .nbh in the same folder as the CustomRUU and flash the radio using CustomRUU, just like flashing a ROM!
you will not need to do a hard reset, when the phone restarts your new radio will be installed and ready to use
I guess i'm going to become a flasher now!
Thank you for advice. i'll post any further questions in ROM forum after i decide which Rom to go with.
thank you.
HI,
agreed I have a t-mobile hd2 and it's the best option flash a new rom, also I sent my phone back under warranty and fwas ully fixed no quible just had to back out the hpsl as pointed out earlier in this thread it all works...
thanks daveyg99,
i guess you both know its a big decision to make your 1st flash.....gulp...brave pill taken.....just chosing radio and rom now.........
good man
any problems just post back on xda youll get answers within a couple minutes
sorry cgrec92,
question......im looking at HSPL......it says check spl version is 1.42.0000 check by holding volume down button and reset....
how do i do this?
turn your phone off
press the button to turn your phone back on again but hold down the VolDown button
it'll bring you to a 4-coloured screen with a bit of text
it should say spl 1.42.0000
take the battery out and put it back in and turn your phone back on normally
job done
thanks done it....1.42..ok.. I hadn't turned the phone off first doh!
hspl done
great work
now all you have to do is choose your ROM
ok going for energyROM 21892 with cookie...the more stable one......dl now......42min left...
good choice my friend
the download file will include a .nbh file, make sure to rename this file as RUU_Signed.nbh if it hasn't been done so already
the download might include a CustomRUU which will be used to flash the ROM
if it doesnt then this can be downloaded from the sticky threads aswell
let us know how it goes
Hello.
This is my first post, so please be kind to me!
I've spent the past few weeks trying to get my head around what to do in order to flash my HD2 which is on the t_mobile network
The original rom 1.43 i think is driving me crazy and I now dont care if I change the rom and it invalidates the warenty!
In order to HSPL I need to SPL first, but will my device allow this?
I've read through so many threads that I am completely confused and dont know which way to turn, never mind which thread to re-read.
Can someone point me to the sspl, HSPL to upgrade to 1.66
Thanks
Glyn
oh its the 512 version
you are over confusing yourself.
download hspl 2
instal it - choose whichever hspl you like (may as well go for 2.08.hspl)
flash whatever rom you like from usb. (don't forget to flash a compatible radio either before or straight after.)
Thanks for your reply......
so downloan the HSPL from here?
'forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477'
and as I run the program I'll get the option of which version to install?
What should I look for to make sure that the radio is compatible with the rom?
Thanks again and sorry for my ignorance
Glyn
best thing you can do is to read a lot. No need to do enerything in one mad dash.
get HSPL2 from HERE - end of the first post (but read the post, dont just skip to download, )
run it as administrator (right click, run as administrator)
for best results use a usb port on the back of your PC (i.e one directly on teh motherboard, not an external usb slot) it will ask what version you want to install. just go for 2.08.hspl (not 2.08.0000) and let it do its thing. the authors say you should match the version to the rom (so 1.43.hspl for roms that are 1.43 or 1.48, 1.66.HSPL for 1.6 based roms, etc, but it isn't critical, most will run on any HSPL, so dont go changing every time you flash a new rom, no need. If it doesnt work then change it.)
As for radio tips, a radio with .51. in the number, (eg 2.09.51.03) will NOT work with any rom that has the 576meg ram, enabled.
If you flash a rom and all you get when you restart is a grey screen, chances are the radio doesnt match. Boot to bootloader and flash the radio.
But most of all, read stuff.
What about shipped rom's that are .exe files? Do they include radios with it? Also, is there a post you can point me to that has a list of compatible radios with different rom's?
that's where reading comes in. the whole process has so many variants that there is no simple "a b c" that covers everything.
yes the exe includes radio (and also spl if you use sd card to flash -stay away from sd card, use usb and if anything goes wrong you just boot to bootloader and re flash)
the chefs give you all the infoyou need in the first couple of posts. the sticky threads in the rom development section will tell you how to do everything, and any problem you encounter has beenwritten about already. so read,search and read.
I suggest you flash Stock WWE 1.66 ROM first so you can have a feel of how much improvement
has been done from 1.43
you can download it in HTC website.
Thanks for your help so far..
I would like to go for the 1.66 official ROM first, so I'll find that on here first and find the exe file so I dont have to mess about with compatible radio's.
Just before I HSPL it, I would like a copy of the original 1.43 T-Mobile ROM, so better get searching.
Thanks again
Glyn
the original 1.43 T-Mobile ROM is on HTCs website so get it from there as a backup
THANKYOU!!
Thankyou so much for your help and guidance.
Last night I decided to just do it - the phone was so poor I couldn't take it anymore.
3 hours from start of backing up, to installing HSPL2, to flashing with 1.66, anf then restoring data
I cant believe the transformation - I am so pleased I didnt throw it at a wall!!!
So a massive thanks to the members of this community
im in the same boat... got a stock uk hd2 on tmobile and wasn't to flash a new rom but the information is overwhelming and im scared I will flash a wrong rom and kill my phone :0)
Chivalryyyy said:
im in the same boat... got a stock uk hd2 on tmobile and wasn't to flash a new rom but the information is overwhelming and im scared I will flash a wrong rom and kill my phone :0)
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theres nothing to it. the 'normal' hd2 which you do have, is about the safest phone to flash in the world today, with HSPL2. The 'radios killing phones' problem that started last week is specific to the t mobile US model only, , the one with 1 gig rom.
If you install HSPL on your phone, and then only flash over USB, the very worst that will happen (from a software point of view) is that the phone stops at a grey screen, and/or only boots into bootloader, so you boot into bootloader, you flash something else, and it's fixed.
The T Mo UK stock rom is available to download as backup, (as is o2 and voda for anyone looking) in the 'LEO official roms' thread in rom development, first post, first link, first folder (1.43)
At any time, you can flash that rom from sd card (look it up if you need to) and restore everything, spl, radio and rom, , to factory settings.
In all honesty, so long as you are careful, methodical, don't pull out USB cables halfway through, laptop battery dies, etc , then you are more likely to get bricked from some freak incident, like , umm, battery dieing, heh.
Fear not! be smart, be careful, try to understand what you are doing and why at each step, read up on what an spl is, and the job is , as they say, sorted.
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rockthebus said:
Thankyou so much for your help and guidance.
Last night I decided to just do it - the phone was so poor I couldn't take it anymore.
3 hours from start of backing up, to installing HSPL2, to flashing with 1.66, anf then restoring data
I cant believe the transformation - I am so pleased I didnt throw it at a wall!!!
So a massive thanks to the members of this community
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Hi Guys
Can you help me...
How do i back up the phone before adding HSPL?
is this neccesary and where do i get the stock rom copy from.
i got the phone this week and hate it in its present form... can't even watch youtube.
looking to update to avoid sending back
Regards
mkhonat
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theres nothing to it. the 'normal' hd2 which you do have, is about the safest phone to flash in the world today, with HSPL2. The 'radios killing phones' problem that started last week is specific to the t mobile US model only, , the one with 1 gig rom.
If you install HSPL on your phone, and then only flash over USB, the very worst that will happen (from a software point of view) is that the phone stops at a grey screen, and/or only boots into bootloader, so you boot into bootloader, you flash something else, and it's fixed.
The T Mo UK stock rom is available to download as backup, (as is o2 and voda for anyone looking) in the 'LEO official roms' thread in rom development, first post, first link, first folder (1.43)
At any time, you can flash that rom from sd card (look it up if you need to) and restore everything, spl, radio and rom, , to factory settings.
In all honesty, so long as you are careful, methodical, don't pull out USB cables halfway through, laptop battery dies, etc , then you are more likely to get bricked from some freak incident, like , umm, battery dieing, heh.
Fear not! be smart, be careful, try to understand what you are doing and why at each step, read up on what an spl is, and the job is , as they say, sorted.
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Hi samsamuel,
Sorry to msg you like this.
i have purchased a T mobile HTC HD2 which came with the stock 1.43 ROM.
I want to put 1.66 on but don't know how.
I've read the forum and looked on youtube but confused.
Do you have an idiots guide?... i really am an idiot when it comes to stuff like this!
I have downloaded HSPL2 file.
I have downloaded the back up 1.43 Stock Rom
Do i need to download the 1.66 ROM now and how do i update?
please excuse my ignorance and i am happy to donate if you can help.
Kind regards
Mkhonat
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Hi Samsamuel,
Thanks.. just one more thing.
Saw on youtube that i have to format my SC card
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is this so and is this referring to the sd card in the HTC or my own sd card used to download the 1.66 onto?
regards
mkhonat
PS. why won't this forum allow me to send you a PM?.. i can't send any msg's at all.
I've been lurking in this forum for a while now, and given HTC's "We're not updating the Hero until we've milked the market for every last Desire/Legend upgrade" stance, I've decided to take the plunge and put a custom ROM on my unbranded GSM Hero.
There's just a few questions I wanted to ask before I go ahead, and was hoping some of you would be kind enough to help:
1) If I install a custom ROM, is it possible to go back to factory state? I know some of the FAQ's say its possible to go back to the stock ROM, but does that mean EVERYTHING returns to stock? I know this is apples and oranges but when I flashed a couple of PSP's you have a recovery mode at startup, is anything like this left behind when returning to stock?
2) Is it possible to brick my phone? If so, is it recoverable?
3) Can anyone recommend a fast, stable ROM? I was interested in Damage Control but obviously thats for CDMA Hero's not GSM.
4) I see a lot of people with quite complex issues like radio frequencies and battery problems, what are the odds of having something like that happen? Is it quite rare? Also are radio flashes undone by returning to stock?
Thanks for your time guys, I'll be updating here with my progress/Issues later this evening
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There's just a few questions I wanted to ask before I go ahead, and was hoping some of you would be kind enough to help,.....
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1) If I install a custom ROM, is it possible to go back to factory state? I know some of the FAQ's say its possible to go back to the stock ROM, but does that mean EVERYTHING returns to stock? I know this is apples and oranges but when I flashed a couple of PSP's you have a recovery mode at startup, is anything like this left behind when returning to stock?
- Yes, you can return back to stock state. You are correct, we do use a 'custom recovery console' to flash custom ROMs but this is easily removed by applying one of the official RUU .exe files found at Official HTC Hero RUU ROM Links. Connect phone to PC, run .exe, DONE!
2) Is it possible to brick my phone? If so, is it recoverable?
- I personally have only heard of people bricking handsets when, (1) Installing CDMA ROMs onto GSM handsets (you already know the difference so this shouldn't be a problem now), (2) Interrupting the radio update process (when applying update, phone may reboot a few times, do not touch untill you get the lockbar to pull down to unlock).
Iv had mine for about 3 months now and started as a complete noob but my phone is still living.
3) Can anyone recommend a fast, stable ROM? I was interested in Damage Control but obviously thats for CDMA Hero's not GSM.
- Im using MCR3.2 since day one, its fast and stable, what more could I ask for (apart from android 2.1).
4) I see a lot of people with quite complex issues like radio frequencies and battery problems, what are the odds of having something like that happen? Is it quite rare? Also are radio flashes undone by returning to stock?
- I assume its quite rare, again, Ive had no issues whatsoever. I dont know if running the RUU .exe will roll back to a previous radio or not but you can manually rollback, just use the radio update.zip first, then run the .exe if you need to.
One thing I would recomend,... Make sure you'v charged your battery 100% via the mains adapter (not usb through PC) when applying the custom ROM.
ruu contains a radio upgrade. or downgrade, depends on what you have installed and what ruu you are attempting to install.
you can brick your hero by flashing either a wrong radio or a wrong spl, or by flashing the correct ones of either and interrupt it during flashing.
if it was recoverable it wouldn't be bricked, the definition of "bricked" is that it serves the same purpose as a brick. however in most cases there is the possibility of reviving it via jtag, which is a highly complicated process that involves opening the phone and manipulating with the components directly (you could say "solder in a new processor" to express it in laymans' terms). so usually not worth the effort.
@ddotpatel
Thanks for clearing all that up for me
One thing though, with the official RUU files you linked, do you always just pick the latest one? Also do I need to worry about the "No Driver" description, or is it just run and done?
@kendong2
What would consitute a "wrong radio"? Are they not region-free? Or do you mean if I install a lower version than the one I already have? Also I guess seeing as I don't know what an SPL is I don't need to worry about it?
As for the Bricked term, yes your right. Its just coming from the PSP scene they use the term bricked to describe when the firmware will no longer boot, but the hacked in recovery console will. Bad habits and all that
I dont think the nodriver thing is anything to worry about.
Check the ROM your currently on through the settings menu so you know which one to go back to should you need to. I suppose it would look odd if you tried to return a handset for repair and it had an older ROM than the one it shipped with.
If you use this link HTC Hero Radio ROM Links you will be fine. They aren't region specific, I just used the latest one.
I think what Kendong meant was to make sure its for the GSM Hero not CDMA.
And SPL is the ROM I think, so again, as long as its GSM you're good to go!
Thanks ddotpatel
One last question, on the Recovery ROM thread linked to in the "Complete Newbie Guide" it says in rather large red writing "This recovery is NOT yet fully compatible with the new apps2sd method!".
Does this mean if I install A2SD as in the newb guide it will cause issues/break?
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Thanks ddotpatel
One last question, on the Recovery ROM thread linked to in the "Complete Newbie Guide" it says in rather large red writing "This recovery is NOT yet fully compatible with the new apps2sd method!".
Does this mean if I install A2SD as in the newb guide it will cause issues/break?
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No, no,... If you follow the instructions in BTDAG's guide to setup apps2sd all will be ok.
The warning is referring to CM5.0.7 which I think is a HTC Dream / G1 ROM so that doesn't affect us guys.
Oh good, bid red text has a tendancy to put me off somewhat!
I've plumped for SLIDEVILLAIN 1.1.0 RC, and have a shiny new 8GB class 6 card on the way, should help with the craving to upgrade to a new phone for a while
Thanks for all your help, I'm sure you'll see more threads from me in the not to idstant future
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Oh good, bid red text has a tendancy to put me off somewhat!
I've plumped for SLIDEVILLAIN 1.1.0 RC, and have a shiny new 8GB class 6 card on the way, should help with the craving to upgrade to a new phone for a while
Thanks for all your help, I'm sure you'll see more threads from me in the not to idstant future
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Don't suppose you could send me a link of the memory card you'v ordered,... I think I'm gona start researching prices, speeds etc and get a new one myself.
Best I found so far was an 8gig Class 6 Transcend for £14 off Amazon but it doesn't state read/write speeds so am a bit reluctant.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transcend-m...USDHC6/dp/B001IAMME8/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
Yeah, Iv had mine 3 months, initially bought as a temp handset to replace my Nokia 5800. Was planning to sell it on again this month and get myself a Desire for my birthday. But you know what,... I'm still really really happy with it. I think I'll be keeping it for another 6 months or so, at least until we get something similar to the HTC Evo 4G or the HTC Incredible in the uk.
I ended up ordering the Samsung one:
Urgh I can't post links, search for "Samsung 8GB Micro SD PLUS memory card Class 6" on Amazon
The read write speeds are in the comments, but to be honest I didn't pay that much attention to them knowing that the class 4 was the recommended speed and that class 6 is 50% faster.
Pretty much the same here, I was happy with it until the boss ordered a Desire and I had to set it up for him. The screen size combined with 2.1 was seriously making me consider one, but I realised if I could just have 2.1 I could hold out another few months.
And yes the Evo is awesome, can't wait for something like that over here, If it doesn't come then I'll be holding out for Froyo instead
SPL is the secondary program loader. Think of it as the bootloader. You don't need to touch it unless you want to replace the initial static bootscreen image.