TMC ist a nice thing for navigation-software to react automaticly on current traffic-situations. Most of the software products use this feature.
For this a TMC-receiver must be implemented in the GPS-receiver. The Trinity and other likely PDA´s have it not.
Now my idea - or a simple question:
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It must be possible to receive data of the current traffic over the i-net over GPRS/UMTS or maybe per SMS. A download in the office or at home over WLAN should be possible to.
Theoreticaly this data can be used for programming a "software-TMC". This could be realise the using of different data-sources for every navigation-software.
I think about using or re-programming the software-com-port in WM5 or higher (start/settings/system/extern gps) which maps the hardware-port com2: to GPD1: by default (other combinations are possible!)
The Point is now:
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How to integrate the traffic-data into the data-stream of the software-com-port GPD1: (or any equivalent port)
This is only an idea...
Oh yes, before i forget:
Answers contents "Who wants this?", "Using of TMC is free and mobile-internet cost money!" are not wanted. Please forgive, but thats not what i want to hear. I know this fact!
But the using of mobile-internet becomes more cheaper and many users have mobile-data-flatrates or volume-packages! Mobile-Internet is growing more and more!
PSlease forgive my maybe "strange" englisch, but I write text in englisch not very often!
pps:maybe that there exists an software that could do the thing I wanted, but I searched in many forums and search-engines - nothing found...
Jassi_1975 said:
Now my idea - or a simple question:
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It must be possible to receive data of the current traffic over the i-net over GPRS/UMTS or maybe per SMS. A download in the office or at home over WLAN should be possible to.
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Route 66 Navigate 7 or 8 and TomTom does just that.
In Route 66 Navigate 7 it's free of charge, in Version 8 and all TomTom Versions it's not.
Sascha
SaBo said:
Route 66 Navigate 7 or 8 and TomTom does just that.
In Route 66 Navigate 7 it's free of charge, in Version 8 and all TomTom Versions it's not.
Sascha
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That´s the point !
I use iGO. This and many other navigation-software has tmc implemented. Using of TMC is free.
I knew the feature of TomTom. TomTom go its own way in providing traffic-information by money. Route66 and Navigate are not my way - I personaly favorite iGO or navigon.
And: I don´t want to change my navi-software.
My endeavor is to use every traffic-information with every software for free!
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Route 66 Navigate 7 or 8 and TomTom does just that.
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You sure about Route 66? I've been using Route 66 Navigate 7 for several years, and I could never get traffic to work. I ended up switching to CoPilot Live 7.
Besides the programming of the tool as such I'd expect you'll run into the following issues:
- locate a TMC server that provides the regarding Data for free. Myself I don't use it but I presume e.g. the Route66-Server at least requires a login and that might could be locked to owning the software. TMC-Pro normally is NOT for free!
Alternatively you maybe could grab the Data from a free Traffic Server from HTML, but those normaly don't provide TMC-Pro Data, only the stuff officially announced on the Radio (the "ordinary", free TMC data; at least it is like that in Germany) and hence are not really very useful.
- reprogramming/hacking of the regarding Routing Software so it accepts the Data from a Com-Port or anything. At least the commercial Programs hardly are free so I'd presume you'd need to hack it - and that is illegal, anyway.
I'm not aware of any routing Software provided under the GPL, but maybe I'm mistaken there.
Hence I think this is gonna be a very difficult task, though I definitely like the idea!
Cheers,
Markus.
Hi, i think the idea is very cool...
I use TomTom 6.032 with my HTC Touch Cruise...
keep on working!
I will subscribe to this thread.
have fun
nother said:
Hi, i think the idea is very cool...
I use TomTom 6.032 with my HTC Touch Cruise...
keep on working!
I will subscribe to this thread.
have fun
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Sorry, but you can not use TMC with TomTom...
But with Igo an Navigon, so it would be real a great thing,
when we were able to download the tmc data.
Christian72D said:
Sorry, but you can not use TMC with TomTom...
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That is not exactly correct.
While you can't use a TMC receiver with Tomtom their online Traffic Service provides just those data.
If I got it correctly that's just the bit Jassi_1975 wants to be replaced by a free of charge alternative.
Cheers,
Markus.
HobGoblin2006 said:
But with Igo an Navigon, so it would be real a great thing,
when we were able to download the tmc data.
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Using Navigon I'm very interested aswell. Before Navigon I had Alturion and it worked great. Since Alturion stopped marketing I miss it. Navigon has the option TMC it only doesn't work with GPRS, just with a BT mouse. Having a Kaiser I find it ridiculous buying an extra BT mouse only for TMC (I have a flat free GPRS abo). Being a noob I have to rely on the experts on the forum, so please have a look
The idea is great.
I had this idee a while ago but aint that good programmer.
My idea wat to use a website in the NL (where I live) and get traffic data from that,
store it on your device in a file, next emulate a TMC port for fo rinstance igo and you dont have to hack the program.
obermuem said:
- locate a TMC server that provides the regarding Data for free. Myself I don't use it but I presume e.g. the Route66-Server at least requires a login and that might could be locked to owning the software. TMC-Pro normally is NOT for free!
Alternatively you maybe could grab the Data from a free Traffic Server from HTML, but those normaly don't provide TMC-Pro Data, only the stuff officially announced on the Radio (the "ordinary", free TMC data; at least it is like that in Germany) and hence are not really very useful.
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That´s right, there are some services in html from where we could free collect the traffic-informations. Maybe it´s usefull to plan an "ONLINE-Collector" or so ...
But think about:
http://www.verkehrsinfos.de
http://mobil.verkehrsinfos.de
obermuem said:
- reprogramming/hacking of the regarding Routing Software so it accepts the Data from a Com-Port or anything. At least the commercial Programs hardly are free so I'd presume you'd need to hack it - and that is illegal, anyway.
I'm not aware of any routing Software provided under the GPL, but maybe I'm mistaken there.
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I don´t want to reprogramm/hack any Routing Software - I want to reprogramm (or hack) the given "port-switching" in Windows-Mobile!
So ANY Software which uses TMC can use ANY provided traffic-information. Ok any information we can collect.
btje said:
The idea is great.
I had this idee a while ago but aint that good programmer.
My idea wat to use a website in the NL (where I live) and get traffic data from that,
store it on your device in a file, next emulate a TMC port for fo rinstance igo and you dont have to hack the program.
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This is what I want - the local-data-file is needed, sure
Great idea! There are plenty of free sites with traffic info available, so if you can get this to work it would be awesome. I'd love to test it if you ever get it going. Good luck!
When you think further, it would be possible, that the programm runs in backround an updates every 5 Minutes, perhabs, so you would be able to have the latest traffic messages on your device!
I was looking for the same thing as I used MIO Map. I gave up and now I'm using Garmin Mobile XT which uses I-net and downloads realtime traffic. I don't have any idea how it does it though. Hopefully someone can come up with a solution!
Chris
I don't thing that this is really a big problem to make, the only programm is to someone to do this!
Add me on to the list of people wanting this solution. My personal favourite navigation software is IGo, and ONLY reason I sometimes switch over to TomTom is because I have traffic subscription and it works. If it works with IGo, it would be bye-bye TomTom.
If someone comes up with a solution, i'm willing to donate/pay for it.
same here, if it's worldwide
i will also donate round about 10$ , what about you other guys?
Some devices have built in FM Radio with RDS. Why not use this feature for traffic info?
greetings
Related
Hi Folks,
I was wondering a while ago if there would be a way to use the internal FM-radio for TMC purposes in TomTom which is pre-installed on the Cruise.
After a bit of searching on the web, i found a small program called DecoRDS, made by J.R. Pueyo (big credits to him!)
Now, i installed this on my Cruise with TomTom6 and initially it didn't work.
So, here are my settings on which the tool works and seems to work (haven't established a full working setting just yet):
Code:
1. Install both files provided from the link on your device. NOT MEMORYCARD
2. Run DecoRDS
3. go to Input, Port, and set it to COM4
4. go to Input, 9.600 bps and set it to 57.600 bps
5. Press OPEN, which will start the RDS tuner
6. go to Input, CONTROL, and select manual. Now you can search the frequencies for the RDS signal.
(optional: 7. enter 98,6 since it's Radio 1 with ANWB TMC for Netherlands)
Now, this SHOULD work, but i haven't figured it out completely yet, since it doesn't work in TomTom yet.
Anybody interested in helping me find out?
Here's the rapidshare: http://rs13.rapidshare.com/files/59746182/DecoRDS_Netherlands_beta.zip
Don't you need the wired earphones attached for the radio to receive any signals?
most certanly you do,
or at least a spliter (htc usb to audio usb and charge)
Great discovey,
can you post a link to the program's webpage to keep informed on future releases ?
sorry i can't help test it
My cruise is in service, and in romania there isn't any station with tmc
I searched so long for an application like this!!! Is it only working for NL users? Can it also work with iGO8?
thanks
hompage is www.lacasadelgps.com but i can't find any information about the software
a lot of information here
it looks like it is possible to have TMC on normal PDAs. even more it is possible to have TomTom use the TMC data.
After reading the forum I see that it is possible to use TMC in some countries.
This due to the fact that you need "translation tables". these tables "translate" the name of the road (say A12) to map coordinates in TT. It looks these tables are only available for Spain and Italy at the moment.
... and .de and .nl
NeoS2007 said:
After a bit of searching on the web, i found a small program called DecoRDS, made by J.R. Pueyo (big credits to him!)
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DecoRDS's purpose is to decode RDS data received by a GPS-TMC receiver. It decodes the NMEA wrapping, maps the TMC location code to a geographical position using location tables then it send the information to Tomtom.
It does not work as far as I know with HTC Touch Cruise/Polaris internal radio.
You might be right, as i can't seem to get any frequency with a working RDS signal. I have the frequency, but the program doesn't seem to use the internal radio... Bummer. Wonder if it could, only problem is, i don't have any knowledge of programming...
Here was a another very nice Solution!!
http://www.world-of-memory.de/product_info.php?cPath=199&products_id=2141&osCsid=d2ab8515b26d701f421dda46bf645e27
58 euro just for tmc? .. pfft.. i think a better solution is than the tomtom plus service
DreamCrasher said:
58 euro just for tmc? .. pfft.. i think a better solution is than the tomtom plus service
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Sure, 40 Euro per year (plus downloading fees) and only working with TomTom.
Great.
Sascha
Borsti99 said:
Here was a another very nice Solution!!
http://www.world-of-memory.de/product_info.php?cPath=199&products_id=2141&osCsid=d2ab8515b26d701f421dda46bf645e27
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but does this work with/for TT7 wm based devices? So not only TT devices?
Wow.. getting this to work on our devices would be awesome!! I wish I had the programming skills to get into this..
too much interestant...
XTREEM|RAGE said:
but does this work with/for TT7 wm based devices? So not only TT devices?
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It does work with most TMC capable navigation softwares which does not include TomTom (since it does not support TMC)
Sascha
Not true
TT is able to use TMC. If TT7 has the subroutines to use it I do not know. TT is using the same programmingcode for all their devices. They sell their own TMC receiver. http://www.tomtom.com/products/accessories/accessory.php?ID=510&Product=500&Category=0
QAN said:
TT is able to use TMC. If TT7 has the subroutines to use it I do not know. TT is using the same programmingcode for all their devices. They sell their own TMC receiver. http://www.tomtom.com/products/accessories/accessory.php?ID=510&Product=500&Category=0
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Sorry, but this simply isn't true.
TomTom Go devices are TMC ready but Linux based.
TomTom Naviator isn't TMC ready and Microsoft Windows Mobile based.
Both versions have strictly nothing common (except GUI).
Sascha
NeoS2007 said:
Hi Folks,
I was wondering a while ago if there would be a way to use the internal FM-radio for TMC purposes in TomTom which is pre-installed on the Cruise.
After a bit of searching on the web, i found a small program called DecoRDS, made by J.R. Pueyo (big credits to him!)
Now, i installed this on my Cruise with TomTom6 and initially it didn't work.
So, here are my settings on which the tool works and seems to work (haven't established a full working setting just yet):
Code:
1. Install both files provided from the link on your device. NOT MEMORYCARD
2. Run DecoRDS
3. go to Input, Port, and set it to COM4
4. go to Input, 9.600 bps and set it to 57.600 bps
5. Press OPEN, which will start the RDS tuner
6. go to Input, CONTROL, and select manual. Now you can search the frequencies for the RDS signal.
(optional: 7. enter 98,6 since it's Radio 1 with ANWB TMC for Netherlands)
Now, this SHOULD work, but i haven't figured it out completely yet, since it doesn't work in TomTom yet.
Anybody interested in helping me find out?
Here's the rapidshare: http://rs13.rapidshare.com/files/59746182/DecoRDS_Netherlands_beta.zip
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I can't find any TMC signal with this configuration (with italian tables).
How do I use the GPS on the XPERIA? Do I have to download something extra? If so, which GPS is good?
To use the GPS, first of all, downloading the latest data from the 'Quick GPS' app worked miracles for me. Then, you need to install a gps application, like TomTom 7 or iGo 8. Or google maps. (The app). When installed, I suggest you make an automatic scan of the gps port from within the app, to make sure it configs automatically.
Are these GPS systems free? Do they require any additional fees?
Wayfinder is included in the CD, and free. Not a turn by turn system like Tomtom/Garmin/igo....Google maps is free as well.
Yes, they cost money. Just google.
What do you mean by turn by turn?
Forget Wayfinder, it's awfull.
It did not work at all on my X1.
If you want something free, you have amazegps
Yes, I am trying to use Wayfinder but it seems like a mess indeed.
williamn said:
Wayfinder is included in the CD, and free. Not a turn by turn system like Tomtom/Garmin/igo....Google maps is free as well.
Yes, they cost money. Just google.
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I downloaded the huge 1gb file for TomTom7 yet i cant seem to find and installer, exe or cab file anywhere to get it on my phone...madness!
That's because you have downloaded a MAP and not TomTom.
ps, warez not tollerated on this site, so I hope you got them directly from TomTom.com
Wait..AmazeGPS...it mentioned requiring a GPRS/3G line. Does that mean that I will still have to pay for it?
Have downloaded Amaze, will test it when i get up as it wont pick the GPS up indoors. Interface looks good though!
Skurai123 said:
Wait..AmazeGPS...it mentioned requiring a GPRS/3G line. Does that mean that I will still have to pay for it?
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It appears the maps are downloaded as you use the software. Therefore, this requires a 3G plan.
If you only wants to track distance etc, try "Gwatch", otherwise we have a free mapp program for ppc (works excellent on x1) in sweden caled "kartex". You can buy maps or load some of your owns for hikeing etc. Really nice in fact.
Hello all,
I have a HTC Magic. And was wondering if there is any software I can buy which allows real-time Sat Nav? (something like TomTom)
Anyone?
Check out AndNav2 in the market
Why not tomtom?
darfri said:
Why not tomtom?
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TomTom is only supported in Windows OS phones, not Android.
Will check out AndNav2!
andnav2 just doesnt work for me. It doesnt like post codes most of the time. It takes almost the entire journey to calculate a route only then to occasionaly take you via another country.
If you are mega stuck then its great and it is free so i cannot moan to much. I just think TomTom is much more reliable (gosh i cannot believe i just said that)
PLease any one here can tell me
i have a HTC diamond Indian Version.....
i want to use GPS in it that too free...
i know its possible but can any one tell me how !!..?
will be really thankful to you!!
Do you mean GPS (Global Positioning System) or GPRS (General Packet Radio Service)!
If first, simply search and install HTC GPS Tool for activating your intenal GPS! The Tool is really self-explaining! If you meant GPRS, yo'll need a special data option from your provider for a fixed amount of money each month!
animelover said:
Do you mean GPS (Global Positioning System) or GPRS (General Packet Radio Service)!
If first, simply search and install HTC GPS Tool for activating your intenal GPS! The Tool is really self-explaining! If you meant GPRS, yo'll need a special data option from your provider for a fixed amount of money each month!
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Thanks so mch for your reply.
i need a GPS Software for india....
i have downloded the HTC GPS tool but from that i cannot navigate...
i want a program where i can seen the map of my city MUMBAI and can navigate!!!!
google maps
you only pay for data transfer
it's the cheapest option other than garmin xt or tomtom navigator, which cost around $100
MyMapIndia
vinodxxx said:
PLease any one here can tell me
i have a HTC diamond Indian Version.....
i want to use GPS in it that too free...
i know its possible but can any one tell me how !!..?
will be really thankful to you!!
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Try My Map India or Garmin XT you will get it for free map of india search for it
you can try smart2Go which is basically for nokia, also the same can be used on wm try it
I've found a nice site about using GPS in India. There is a list of programs you can use: click
Thanks for your Replies...
but still it have not served the purpouse!!...
vinodxxx said:
Thanks for your Replies...
but still it have not served the purpouse!!...
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Download tomtom home form the website, if you use that to install the latest version of tomtom to your diamond you will get one free city map to try it out its bettter than nothing and its free init lol
You can use Mapking,
It's not free but not expensive , and u have Trial few days...
it means without GPRS
i cannot use GPS!!!..
is that true!!.
i tried google maps ..
but it uses Internet... when i connected to my computer!!...
so if it uses internet then whats the use of GPS!!!...
It uses the Internet connection to download Google Maps data.
GPS is used for getting your actual position. With that position Google Maps will download a card snippet representing your actual position.
vinodxxx said:
i tried google maps ..
but it uses Internet... when i connected to my computer!!...
so if it uses internet then whats the use of GPS!!!...
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Dude... there are 2 types of GPS technology. GPS and AGPS(AsssistedGPS). programs like Google maps uses AGPS service, means, they use a packet service (GPRS/EDGE), to get a faster GPS fix. If you choose a GPS program,say Satguide etc.. they completely rely on GPS (can work without GPRS/EDGE), but you have to pay for the service and maps. You might get trial versions of these softwares, but i dont think any of them provides it for free.
Alternatively you could try GPS cycle computer, which would track ur path, speed, directions, altitude... , but it is not designed to overlay your current location on a map. However, it can provide you with a graph details about your route.
dude download map my india software....i will send u india's map........its free to use and dosent need any gprs connection
For, you know, when the zombies come? lol
It would be nice to have something that would spit out your current location. Even if the map isn't very detailed at all... is there anything?
bugmenever said:
For, you know, when the zombies come? lol
It would be nice to have something that would spit out your current location. Even if the map isn't very detailed at all... is there anything?
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So far as I know all the free software uses the internet to download the maps. You could buy gps software. Iguidance 2009 is one, garmin makes another. None of them free, of course.
If you just want your location, there are utilities that will show your lat/long, but not with a map. My NRG ROM includes one such program.
Take a look at MapDroyd.
It uses the OpenStreetMap database. You download maps you're interested in and then access them later while you're offline.
Cheers,
Lanroth
Here's another one that doesn't require internet access.
http://www.amazegps.com/
lanroth said:
Take a look at MapDroyd.
It uses the OpenStreetMap database. You download maps you're interested in and then access them later while you're offline.
Cheers,
Lanroth
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Thanks, but that's for Android....
bugmenever said:
Thanks, but that's for Android....
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It's for any platform imaginable.
Check out http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Windows_Mobile
If you actually want a full fledged GPS, I have tried most of the free ones and found them to all be complex to configure, inaccurate, and with horrible user interfaces. I have tried most of the for pay ones, and consider CoPilot Live to be the best value for the money. At $30 U.S. it is one of the cheapest commercial GPS apps I have seen. I find it to be very easy to use, and the maps have been accurate everywhere I have used it in the U.S. It functions perfectly fine without internet access, but can use internet connectivity to get updated maps, search for points of interest, and in some areas it can even get traffic updates.
Oziexplorer works for me. Can download any internet map or scan your own. Doesn't need internet to run. I use it a lot in the bush where there is no phone signal.
iGO8 work pretty well on TP2, not free but if you look hard enough...
p51d007 said:
Here's another one that doesn't require internet access.
http://www.amazegps.com/
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Not sure why you think that.
It needs a network connection to download the maps and to calculate the route. If you lose the conenction, it can continue to provide the route that was downloaded temporarily. But if you get off of the route, it is of no help until the network reconnects.
+1 on CoPilot Live. I use it a lot, and like the interface and turn instructions. Around New Years, they had a special offering for $19.95, which I think I learned about on XDA-Dev, and I scooped it up right away. It works with or without an internet connection. I recently used in on a ferry from Long Beach CA to Santa Catalina island, and it even knew I was on the ferry because of its route.
TomTom works without an internet connection, but is more expensive. I have it also on my TP2, along with a local map they once offered as a free trial, but they don't offer it any more, and even told me that TT7 isn't yet available in the US for the TP2, even though I downloaded it from their site.
NaviComputer
This program is the way forward!
Basically a GPS map without the map. it provides another PC based program that downloads OpenMap - you customise what you want and to what zoom level you want and it creates the map for your storage card. This amazed me when i actually tried it.
I spent weeks hunting and trying different programs:
I purchased TomTom a year ago and i use this in the car in the UK, but a few months ago i was heading for a 2 week hol in Cuba (crazy place) and planned to drive all over the island so was desperate for an offline map knowing that there would either be no 3G connection or it would cost an arm and a leg (the former proved to be the case).
I created a map of nearly the whole of cuba at full zoom level and it came in at under 75mb. Full (offline) GPS whever i went.
So, TomTom for the car, google maps for on foot, and this badboy (now with a full offline map of London) for when i cant get a signal (ie on the underground) and i want to know which way to go when i get to the surface.
There are only 2 GPS Navigation softwares that I have tried that offer full turn-by-turn navigation without the need to connect to the internet and those are iGO8 and iGO Primo. Everything else and I mean EVERYTHING that I've tried besides the two differnet iGO programs require a data connection whether it be for AGPS or to access some kind online service the program offers such as Garmin Online.
I recommend buying iGO8 and giving that a shot. It works extremely well on both my Touch Pro2 and my HD2 without any real issue. The only downside to it is that it doesn't have working TTS.
+1 more for Co-Pilot
It's cheap, and it works. It's (mostly) professional, provides with very nice navigation routes (and fast too), with some small things to desire (voice alerts before turns are not always helpful, etc).
dharvey4651 said:
There are only 2 GPS Navigation softwares that I have tried that offer full turn-by-turn navigation without the need to connect to the internet and those are iGO8 and iGO Primo. Everything else and I mean EVERYTHING that I've tried besides the two differnet iGO programs require a data connection whether it be for AGPS or to access some kind online service the program offers such as Garmin Online.
I recommend buying iGO8 and giving that a shot. It works extremely well on both my Touch Pro2 and my HD2 without any real issue. The only downside to it is that it doesn't have working TTS.
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Tomtom doen't require a connection
OpenMobileMaps Gets Even Better on Version 1.4
[APP] NaviComputer – Offline GPS Mapping Software [UPDATE v0.93 - 2010-04-05]
+1 for navicomputer.
just upgraded.
no voice directions but the best FREE offline GPS software IMO
I'll stick with Tomtom... Good, reliable software.... And John Cleese giving directions isn't bad either....
ultramag69 said:
I'll stick with Tomtom... Good, reliable software.... And John Cleese giving directions isn't bad either....
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John Cleese? Kitt all the way!
dharvey4651 said:
There are only 2 GPS Navigation softwares that I have tried that offer full turn-by-turn navigation without the need to connect to the internet and those are iGO8 and iGO Primo. Everything else and I mean EVERYTHING that I've tried besides the two differnet iGO programs require a data connection whether it be for AGPS or to access some kind online service the program offers such as Garmin Online.
I recommend buying iGO8 and giving that a shot. It works extremely well on both my Touch Pro2 and my HD2 without any real issue. The only downside to it is that it doesn't have working TTS.
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I'm using iGO primo 2010, it connects to 3G and spend around 1~3 cents, any idea why? o.o