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i bought a gps. now what?

Ok, I bought a GPS on ebay, the BT-359. Now what? I need extra software on the phone to use turn by turn navigation, right? What software do you recommend? For simple "where am I," I can use the newest Google Maps or LiveSearch I assume.
Thanks

Now buy a GPS Software (IGo, MioMap...), install it, and enjoy in turn by turn navigation.

Check out www.buygpsnow.com. They have some good deals.
I recently got a bluetooth unit myself; I have downloaded a trial version of software called GPS Tuner. It automagically downloads google maps based on your location, pretty cool.
I plan to go hiking this weekend and will try it out on some waypoint I'm going to load.

I use TomTom For Windows Mobile. Works really Well. You can buy it on their website or you can 'acquire it' else where fairly easily.
Set up the Com Ports and Away you go!. Just make sure you read the manual for Your GPS to set it up correctly.

Tomtom is tha bomb for Nav (at least in Australia it is) WM5 used to freeze up if you had too many Points of interest active however on WM6 you dont get it at all.

speckledpig said:
Check out www.buygpsnow.com. They have some good deals.
I recently got a bluetooth unit myself; I have downloaded a trial version of software called GPS Tuner. It automagically downloads google maps based on your location, pretty cool.
I plan to go hiking this weekend and will try it out on some waypoint I'm going to load.
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Why don't you just use Google Maps mobile directly? It too has GPS functinality.
You can also use free MGmaps
http://www.mgmaps.com/
You can download Google tiles to your device and use them locally without data acess.

TomTom hands down.
I've used other brands of software and they all feel like a poorly designed child's toy compared to TomTom.

scouzi said:
Why don't you just use Google Maps mobile directly? It too has GPS functinality.
You can also use free MGmaps
http://www.mgmaps.com/
You can download Google tiles to your device and use them locally without data acess.
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Overhead maps are virtually impossible to drive with. On top of that you still HAVE to have a data connection to route.

sook said:
Ok, I bought a GPS on ebay, the BT-359. Now what? I need extra software on the phone to use turn by turn navigation, right? What software do you recommend? For simple "where am I," I can use the newest Google Maps or LiveSearch I assume.
Thanks
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I˛m using a MioMap v3.2 with Cyberus v10 skin and i am a fully satisfied with this GPS software. I tested all GPS software, but MioMap is best for me. All world maps for all world countries exist for this GPS software.

FileFixer said:
I˛m using a MioMap v3.2 with Cyberus v10 skin and i am a fully satisfied with this GPS software. I tested all GPS software, but MioMap is best for me. All world maps for all world countries exist for this GPS software.
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where can i get the miomap software, all i see is their devices. i cant find anywhere to get igo us software. im working on aquiring tomtom.
do all three work on laptop and pda?

TMC without TMC?!

TMC ist a nice thing for navigation-software to react automaticly on current traffic-situations. Most of the software products use this feature.
For this a TMC-receiver must be implemented in the GPS-receiver. The Trinity and other likely PDA´s have it not.
Now my idea - or a simple question:
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It must be possible to receive data of the current traffic over the i-net over GPRS/UMTS or maybe per SMS. A download in the office or at home over WLAN should be possible to.
Theoreticaly this data can be used for programming a "software-TMC". This could be realise the using of different data-sources for every navigation-software.
I think about using or re-programming the software-com-port in WM5 or higher (start/settings/system/extern gps) which maps the hardware-port com2: to GPD1: by default (other combinations are possible!)
The Point is now:
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How to integrate the traffic-data into the data-stream of the software-com-port GPD1: (or any equivalent port)
This is only an idea...
Oh yes, before i forget:
Answers contents "Who wants this?", "Using of TMC is free and mobile-internet cost money!" are not wanted. Please forgive, but thats not what i want to hear. I know this fact!
But the using of mobile-internet becomes more cheaper and many users have mobile-data-flatrates or volume-packages! Mobile-Internet is growing more and more!
PSlease forgive my maybe "strange" englisch, but I write text in englisch not very often!
pps:maybe that there exists an software that could do the thing I wanted, but I searched in many forums and search-engines - nothing found...

Jassi_1975 said:
Now my idea - or a simple question:
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It must be possible to receive data of the current traffic over the i-net over GPRS/UMTS or maybe per SMS. A download in the office or at home over WLAN should be possible to.
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Route 66 Navigate 7 or 8 and TomTom does just that.
In Route 66 Navigate 7 it's free of charge, in Version 8 and all TomTom Versions it's not.
Sascha

SaBo said:
Route 66 Navigate 7 or 8 and TomTom does just that.
In Route 66 Navigate 7 it's free of charge, in Version 8 and all TomTom Versions it's not.
Sascha
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That´s the point !
I use iGO. This and many other navigation-software has tmc implemented. Using of TMC is free.
I knew the feature of TomTom. TomTom go its own way in providing traffic-information by money. Route66 and Navigate are not my way - I personaly favorite iGO or navigon.
And: I don´t want to change my navi-software.
My endeavor is to use every traffic-information with every software for free!

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Route 66 Navigate 7 or 8 and TomTom does just that.
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You sure about Route 66? I've been using Route 66 Navigate 7 for several years, and I could never get traffic to work. I ended up switching to CoPilot Live 7.

Besides the programming of the tool as such I'd expect you'll run into the following issues:
- locate a TMC server that provides the regarding Data for free. Myself I don't use it but I presume e.g. the Route66-Server at least requires a login and that might could be locked to owning the software. TMC-Pro normally is NOT for free!
Alternatively you maybe could grab the Data from a free Traffic Server from HTML, but those normaly don't provide TMC-Pro Data, only the stuff officially announced on the Radio (the "ordinary", free TMC data; at least it is like that in Germany) and hence are not really very useful.
- reprogramming/hacking of the regarding Routing Software so it accepts the Data from a Com-Port or anything. At least the commercial Programs hardly are free so I'd presume you'd need to hack it - and that is illegal, anyway.
I'm not aware of any routing Software provided under the GPL, but maybe I'm mistaken there.
Hence I think this is gonna be a very difficult task, though I definitely like the idea!
Cheers,
Markus.

Hi, i think the idea is very cool...
I use TomTom 6.032 with my HTC Touch Cruise...
keep on working!
I will subscribe to this thread.
have fun

nother said:
Hi, i think the idea is very cool...
I use TomTom 6.032 with my HTC Touch Cruise...
keep on working!
I will subscribe to this thread.
have fun
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Sorry, but you can not use TMC with TomTom...

But with Igo an Navigon, so it would be real a great thing,
when we were able to download the tmc data.

Christian72D said:
Sorry, but you can not use TMC with TomTom...
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That is not exactly correct.
While you can't use a TMC receiver with Tomtom their online Traffic Service provides just those data.
If I got it correctly that's just the bit Jassi_1975 wants to be replaced by a free of charge alternative.
Cheers,
Markus.

HobGoblin2006 said:
But with Igo an Navigon, so it would be real a great thing,
when we were able to download the tmc data.
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Using Navigon I'm very interested aswell. Before Navigon I had Alturion and it worked great. Since Alturion stopped marketing I miss it. Navigon has the option TMC it only doesn't work with GPRS, just with a BT mouse. Having a Kaiser I find it ridiculous buying an extra BT mouse only for TMC (I have a flat free GPRS abo). Being a noob I have to rely on the experts on the forum, so please have a look

The idea is great.
I had this idee a while ago but aint that good programmer.
My idea wat to use a website in the NL (where I live) and get traffic data from that,
store it on your device in a file, next emulate a TMC port for fo rinstance igo and you dont have to hack the program.

obermuem said:
- locate a TMC server that provides the regarding Data for free. Myself I don't use it but I presume e.g. the Route66-Server at least requires a login and that might could be locked to owning the software. TMC-Pro normally is NOT for free!
Alternatively you maybe could grab the Data from a free Traffic Server from HTML, but those normaly don't provide TMC-Pro Data, only the stuff officially announced on the Radio (the "ordinary", free TMC data; at least it is like that in Germany) and hence are not really very useful.
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That´s right, there are some services in html from where we could free collect the traffic-informations. Maybe it´s usefull to plan an "ONLINE-Collector" or so ...
But think about:
http://www.verkehrsinfos.de
http://mobil.verkehrsinfos.de
obermuem said:
- reprogramming/hacking of the regarding Routing Software so it accepts the Data from a Com-Port or anything. At least the commercial Programs hardly are free so I'd presume you'd need to hack it - and that is illegal, anyway.
I'm not aware of any routing Software provided under the GPL, but maybe I'm mistaken there.
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I don´t want to reprogramm/hack any Routing Software - I want to reprogramm (or hack) the given "port-switching" in Windows-Mobile!
So ANY Software which uses TMC can use ANY provided traffic-information. Ok any information we can collect.
btje said:
The idea is great.
I had this idee a while ago but aint that good programmer.
My idea wat to use a website in the NL (where I live) and get traffic data from that,
store it on your device in a file, next emulate a TMC port for fo rinstance igo and you dont have to hack the program.
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This is what I want - the local-data-file is needed, sure

Great idea! There are plenty of free sites with traffic info available, so if you can get this to work it would be awesome. I'd love to test it if you ever get it going. Good luck!

When you think further, it would be possible, that the programm runs in backround an updates every 5 Minutes, perhabs, so you would be able to have the latest traffic messages on your device!

I was looking for the same thing as I used MIO Map. I gave up and now I'm using Garmin Mobile XT which uses I-net and downloads realtime traffic. I don't have any idea how it does it though. Hopefully someone can come up with a solution!
Chris

I don't thing that this is really a big problem to make, the only programm is to someone to do this!

Add me on to the list of people wanting this solution. My personal favourite navigation software is IGo, and ONLY reason I sometimes switch over to TomTom is because I have traffic subscription and it works. If it works with IGo, it would be bye-bye TomTom.
If someone comes up with a solution, i'm willing to donate/pay for it.

same here, if it's worldwide

i will also donate round about 10$ , what about you other guys?

Some devices have built in FM Radio with RDS. Why not use this feature for traffic info?
greetings

Recommend GPS Softwares For X1?

Hey guys.
Im looking for GPS programs/softwares that are compatiable with the X1.
I heard many like TomTom, Garmin, etcetc..
Just wondering if there are any other recommened GPS softwares that do not require any internet connectivity. (for use especially in Asia countries)
Thanks!

TomTom doesn't require internet connectivity. I have TT7 on my X1 and do not use any data while navagating (I have not enabled QuickGPS which would use some data though).
I find TT7 very good and prefer it to my cars inbuilt gps.
I also use run.gps uv trainer as an exercise log - again no data connection needed.

A lot of GPS software don't use data. Garmin, Tomtom.. all you have to do is pre-load what maps you need on the card and your good to go.

I have tried all of them and IMHO the best one is IGO8.

Cheeze[iT] said:
A lot of GPS software don't use data. Garmin, Tomtom.. all you have to do is pre-load what maps you need on the card and your good to go.
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I've to buy the software, do I?
Or is there a free download for the software?

orelsi said:
I have tried all of them and IMHO the best one is IGO8.
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where can i get a download if it?

I really like the UI on TomTom and I've been using it in both my WinMo's. Currently v7.910 in my X1 with the latest European maps and it works like a charm.
QuickGPS is set to automatically download data only when I attach the X1 to a computer.
I am pretty convinced that other nav software like Navigon and iGO will work fine too. Stick to one of the most popular because you will be able to find much more resources on the web, POIs and such.

Are they free? Or do i have to pay for the softwares?

Needs said:
Are they free? Or do i have to pay for the softwares?
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Some are free, some you have to pay for.
Here's a good index of a lot of free GPS programs, you can read about them and see what fits your needs best:
http://www.maps-gps-info.com/fgpfw.html#WindowsMobile

what im about to request is quite demanding...
so.. please do not take it to heart.
Can you provide(or spoonfeed) me with one thats is totally free, with all maps downloaded so that i do not need internet connectivity when i use my GPS. Best is it comes with Asia maps.
(the list Flying H4x0r gave is too confusing.. and i couldnt figure which requires interenet, and which doesnt)
Thank you.

There are GPS Tools for free but there is no free navigation system on the market that does real offline navigation like TomTom, Navigon etc. So, forget it.

Google maps require an internet connection right?

mobile gmaps (google mgmaps) support online and offline maps. it is a java app and similar to google maps in operation. It does not do turn by turn navigation - but its better than nothing and its free.

garmin is your best bet. There are ways to get it free, but that would be highly ILLEGAL and i dont recommend it.

scote said:
mobile gmaps (google mgmaps) support online and offline maps. it is a java app and similar to google maps in operation. It does not do turn by turn navigation - but its better than nothing and its free.
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For offline maps, do i need to pre-download them?
So, the offline maps only allow me to find out where I am, is there right? :x
Thank you

I have installed TT7, iGo8 and Sygic Mcguider 7.70.
Bye.

hi, i got garmin mobilte installed on my x1...i dunno why, but it connects to satiellte, tells me my location n drops out instantly..how come?

im using mapking in malaysia..

mr_sheen said:
garmin is your best bet. There are ways to get it free, but that would be highly ILLEGAL and i dont recommend it.
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Garmin has some problems on my X1i.
The backlight doesn't stay on, the phone keeps entering stand by. That's really annoying, and it doesn't happen with Tom Tom 7.
Is it just me not configuring something?

[email protected] said:
Garmin has some problems on my X1i.
The backlight doesn't stay on, the phone keeps entering stand by. That's really annoying, and it doesn't happen with Tom Tom 7.
Is it just me not configuring something?
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go to settings (on your garmin) -> Display -> backlight override -> tick always on
otherwise just go to your phone setting ->system -> power -> advanced -> untick the "turn of device if not used for...."
when the system goes to sleep, it cuts off the gps connection. It took me a while to figure that out. LOL

Best software GPS can be used without cell service

What is the best software to use that doesnt require cell service. Including map updates.

I use copilot live 8...
$30.00...and it does not need a data signal as the maps are stored on your SD card.
For updates, im sure you can hook up to a wifi signal...or, you can download the Copilot Desktop application and sync maps/voices/updates to your phone that way.

I do have Copilot Live 8 also, so far it's great and the graphics are nicely with turn by turn navigation.

iGO 8 and TomTom
iGO8 have the option of installing individual city map! save alot of space TT have to put the whole NA map on it .. yikes!

I use GARMIN LOVE IT

I also use Garmin, love the lack of subscription needed to do internet searches for nearby places, unlike most of the others. So, you never have to worry about the locations being out of date.

Does Garmin running well with HD2 ? i had Garmin XT on my Satio (yes i still love that phone ) and it do the recalculating alot, with tomtom,Sygic they are fine no recalculation. Therefore, i dont want to put Garmin on my HD2

are any of these gps's free?

well they arent free...... but it anyone has a free trial (keyword: trial) feel free to share the link

k20a1 said:
are any of these gps's free?
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MS' Bing app (which is free) now has turn-by-turn GPS nav, but it requires cell data service.

Navicomputer
k20a1 said:
are any of these gps's free?
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I use Navicomputer on my Tytn II, but it seems to also work on the HTC HD2 too (according to other people posting). Navicomputer uses the Open Street Maps and can do this online or you can download them and use it when there is no connection (I do this when I travel outside the US).

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I use Navicomputer on my Tytn II, but it seems to also work on the HTC HD2 too (according to other people posting). Navicomputer uses the Open Street Maps and can do this online or you can download them and use it when there is no connection (I do this when I travel outside the US).
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You can't do a search for an address when in Offline Mode. Can you?
I tried NaviComputer, and looks like its only good for looking at where you are in the map and not for it to tell you where you should go. And ofcourse for tracking your hiking trail (which it is meant for).

Simple GPS that doesn't rely on internet?

For, you know, when the zombies come? lol
It would be nice to have something that would spit out your current location. Even if the map isn't very detailed at all... is there anything?

bugmenever said:
For, you know, when the zombies come? lol
It would be nice to have something that would spit out your current location. Even if the map isn't very detailed at all... is there anything?
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So far as I know all the free software uses the internet to download the maps. You could buy gps software. Iguidance 2009 is one, garmin makes another. None of them free, of course.
If you just want your location, there are utilities that will show your lat/long, but not with a map. My NRG ROM includes one such program.

Take a look at MapDroyd.
It uses the OpenStreetMap database. You download maps you're interested in and then access them later while you're offline.
Cheers,
Lanroth

Here's another one that doesn't require internet access.
http://www.amazegps.com/

lanroth said:
Take a look at MapDroyd.
It uses the OpenStreetMap database. You download maps you're interested in and then access them later while you're offline.
Cheers,
Lanroth
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Thanks, but that's for Android....

bugmenever said:
Thanks, but that's for Android....
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It's for any platform imaginable.
Check out http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Windows_Mobile

If you actually want a full fledged GPS, I have tried most of the free ones and found them to all be complex to configure, inaccurate, and with horrible user interfaces. I have tried most of the for pay ones, and consider CoPilot Live to be the best value for the money. At $30 U.S. it is one of the cheapest commercial GPS apps I have seen. I find it to be very easy to use, and the maps have been accurate everywhere I have used it in the U.S. It functions perfectly fine without internet access, but can use internet connectivity to get updated maps, search for points of interest, and in some areas it can even get traffic updates.

Oziexplorer works for me. Can download any internet map or scan your own. Doesn't need internet to run. I use it a lot in the bush where there is no phone signal.

iGO8 work pretty well on TP2, not free but if you look hard enough...

p51d007 said:
Here's another one that doesn't require internet access.
http://www.amazegps.com/
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Not sure why you think that.
It needs a network connection to download the maps and to calculate the route. If you lose the conenction, it can continue to provide the route that was downloaded temporarily. But if you get off of the route, it is of no help until the network reconnects.

+1 on CoPilot Live. I use it a lot, and like the interface and turn instructions. Around New Years, they had a special offering for $19.95, which I think I learned about on XDA-Dev, and I scooped it up right away. It works with or without an internet connection. I recently used in on a ferry from Long Beach CA to Santa Catalina island, and it even knew I was on the ferry because of its route.
TomTom works without an internet connection, but is more expensive. I have it also on my TP2, along with a local map they once offered as a free trial, but they don't offer it any more, and even told me that TT7 isn't yet available in the US for the TP2, even though I downloaded it from their site.

NaviComputer
This program is the way forward!
Basically a GPS map without the map. it provides another PC based program that downloads OpenMap - you customise what you want and to what zoom level you want and it creates the map for your storage card. This amazed me when i actually tried it.
I spent weeks hunting and trying different programs:
I purchased TomTom a year ago and i use this in the car in the UK, but a few months ago i was heading for a 2 week hol in Cuba (crazy place) and planned to drive all over the island so was desperate for an offline map knowing that there would either be no 3G connection or it would cost an arm and a leg (the former proved to be the case).
I created a map of nearly the whole of cuba at full zoom level and it came in at under 75mb. Full (offline) GPS whever i went.
So, TomTom for the car, google maps for on foot, and this badboy (now with a full offline map of London) for when i cant get a signal (ie on the underground) and i want to know which way to go when i get to the surface.

There are only 2 GPS Navigation softwares that I have tried that offer full turn-by-turn navigation without the need to connect to the internet and those are iGO8 and iGO Primo. Everything else and I mean EVERYTHING that I've tried besides the two differnet iGO programs require a data connection whether it be for AGPS or to access some kind online service the program offers such as Garmin Online.
I recommend buying iGO8 and giving that a shot. It works extremely well on both my Touch Pro2 and my HD2 without any real issue. The only downside to it is that it doesn't have working TTS.

+1 more for Co-Pilot
It's cheap, and it works. It's (mostly) professional, provides with very nice navigation routes (and fast too), with some small things to desire (voice alerts before turns are not always helpful, etc).

dharvey4651 said:
There are only 2 GPS Navigation softwares that I have tried that offer full turn-by-turn navigation without the need to connect to the internet and those are iGO8 and iGO Primo. Everything else and I mean EVERYTHING that I've tried besides the two differnet iGO programs require a data connection whether it be for AGPS or to access some kind online service the program offers such as Garmin Online.
I recommend buying iGO8 and giving that a shot. It works extremely well on both my Touch Pro2 and my HD2 without any real issue. The only downside to it is that it doesn't have working TTS.
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Tomtom doen't require a connection

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+1 for navicomputer.
just upgraded.
no voice directions but the best FREE offline GPS software IMO

I'll stick with Tomtom... Good, reliable software.... And John Cleese giving directions isn't bad either....

ultramag69 said:
I'll stick with Tomtom... Good, reliable software.... And John Cleese giving directions isn't bad either....
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John Cleese? Kitt all the way!

dharvey4651 said:
There are only 2 GPS Navigation softwares that I have tried that offer full turn-by-turn navigation without the need to connect to the internet and those are iGO8 and iGO Primo. Everything else and I mean EVERYTHING that I've tried besides the two differnet iGO programs require a data connection whether it be for AGPS or to access some kind online service the program offers such as Garmin Online.
I recommend buying iGO8 and giving that a shot. It works extremely well on both my Touch Pro2 and my HD2 without any real issue. The only downside to it is that it doesn't have working TTS.
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I'm using iGO primo 2010, it connects to 3G and spend around 1~3 cents, any idea why? o.o