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HELP: No Bootloader after BigStorage Flash

hello guys, i'm really desperate now. my Magician is dead. i followed the laid out procedure 100% for upgrading to bigstorage. that's what i did:
- dump rom on to the sd card (512MB).
- got a external card reader (since the one in my laptop did not work with ntrw.exe)
- killed ActiveSync (wcesmgr)
- dumped the rom to my hard disk
- got Big_ROM_Ger_1.11.nb1 from ftp
- changed the first 416 bytes with ultraedit.
- wrote the resulting rom to the sd card with ntrw.exe.
- flashed (got the question in bootloader mode, pressed power).
- flash completed, got the 100% message and checksum failure.
- did a softreset
- my Magician is now DEAD !!!
Tried to put it in bootloader mode again, nothing! Put out the battery, unplugged and replugged usb cable, nothing!
PLEASE, any suggestions or help ??????

Please explain "nothing." Are you getting anything on the screen, blank screen, backlit, logo, text, anything?
Can you zip and upload your modified ROM dump file to dropload, rapidshare, or some other portal where someone can take a look?
Did you pull the battery completely, reinsert it, and pressed the reset+camera+power to get back into the bootloader?

BeyondtheTech said:
Please explain "nothing." Are you getting anything on the screen, blank screen, backlit, logo, text, anything?
Can you zip and upload your modified ROM dump file to dropload, rapidshare, or some other portal where someone can take a look?
Did you pull the battery completely, reinsert it, and pressed the reset+camera+power to get back into the bootloader?
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the screen is absolutely blank. if i plug in the power cord not even the charging lamp is on.
i removed the battery completely for a few hours now, reinserted it just that moment and pressed reset + camera + power --> blank screen, no backlit, no logo, no text. i even used my torch to make sure i didn't miss the bootloader message. nothing.
when i press the reset + camera + power button the blue led blinks for a split second but then again nothing.
tried it with and without external power....
any clue????

rom i used
BeyondtheTech said:
Please explain "nothing." Are you getting anything on the screen, blank screen, backlit, logo, text, anything?
Can you zip and upload your modified ROM dump file to dropload, rapidshare, or some other portal where someone can take a look?
Did you pull the battery completely, reinsert it, and pressed the reset+camera+power to get back into the bootloader?
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you can finded the zipped rom i flashed here:
http://62.218.22.81/MagicianRom/[/url]

Sounds like you have screwed it completely. Back to the shop...

saldous said:
Sounds like you have screwed it completely. Back to the shop...
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well, could be possible.... kinda teaches me not to mess around too much. i flashed my old xda II with magneto and all, never had any problems....
anyway, i will try to clear the backup battery over night and try it again tomorrow. if it still doesn't work, i'll get it back to the shop. it's brand new (2 weeks), so i guess (hope) it shouldn't be a problem.

No solution - but I had the same problem
Hello,
sounds that you have exactly the same problem I had. I also wanted to use bigstorage. First I updated to 1.06 official rom from T-mobile Germany. Then I used mksbigstorage to modify this rom. After installing this my mda was stuck at the splashscreen. But the bootloader still worked so I was able to restore my original rom.
Next I downloaded the 1.11 extended german rom from xda-developers ftp-server. I also replaced the first 416 bytes with the one from my rom. After installing this rom and doing a softreset my device was completely dead. No bootloader, no even a blinking light when connecting it with the power supply. I also tried to remove the battery for some time. But nothing worked. As I also had this device for just some days I finally did send it back and recieved a new one.
On this new one I also tried to modify rom 1.06 with mksbigstorage. But after that it was again stuck at the splash-screen. Mksbigstore seems not to work on this rom. Finally I was able to use bigstore by modifying two adresses in the original 1.06 rom downloaded from my device. This method is described in this forum. Worked without problems.
So I do not know what went wrong and I am sure I followed the instructions for flashing bigrom exactly, but as I am not the only one with this problem there is a risk flashing under certain circumstances.

7bft said:
saldous said:
Sounds like you have screwed it completely. Back to the shop...
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well, could be possible.... kinda teaches me not to mess around too much. i flashed my old xda II with magneto and all, never had any problems....
anyway, i will try to clear the backup battery over night and try it again tomorrow. if it still doesn't work, i'll get it back to the shop. it's brand new (2 weeks), so i guess (hope) it shouldn't be a problem.
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I had the same problem flashed XDA 1 hundreds of times without problem. Flashed Magician device one time --> same problem as you have.
I've sent my device to repair center and they installed a new motherboard. So i don't believe that tehre is any fix to relive you're device..... :-(
Stefan

I don't see anything wrong with the ROM file except for the fact that it's slightly larger than my ROM (65281k vs. 65427k). May have been a bad write to the SD card. Was your card a 64MB SD card?

BeyondtheTech said:
I don't see anything wrong with the ROM file except for the fact that it's slightly larger than my ROM (65281k vs. 65427k). May have been a bad write to the SD card. Was your card a 64MB SD card?
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My card was a 512 MB SD Card, since it is the only one I have.
On Monday I'll send it to the service center

Re: No solution - but I had the same problem
beta2morita said:
Hello,
.... I also tried to remove the battery for some time. But nothing worked. As I also had this device for just some days I finally did send it back and recieved a new one.
On this new one I also tried to modify rom 1.06 with mksbigstorage. But after that it was again stuck at the splash-screen. Mksbigstore seems not to work on this rom. Finally I was able to use bigstore by modifying two adresses in the original 1.06 rom downloaded from my device. This method is described in this forum. Worked without problems.
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Thanks for your response, kinda reduces my pain and asures me that I'm not a complete idiot....
I'm now pretty sure that I have the same problem as you have and that sending it to the service center is my only option....
At least I can use my Himalya with Magneto a few more days :wink:
I guess I will not try this again since I don't want to risk killing it again, allthough I allready had problems with the storage size on the working device (tomtom).
One more question: Did anybody ever had problems on upgrading from a t-mobile rom to a vodafone rom? is it even worth upgrading to 1.12?
Thanks for your help guys!!!

S200 hangs in bootloader after softreset

Hi all,
Since last friday I'm the happy owner of an S200, until sunday atleast. After a soft-reset, initiated from windows, my device won't boot anymore. It hangs in the red-green-blue bootloader screen (says: IPL 2.09, SPL 2.09). I've tried soft-resets and hard-resets, but the device would consequently keep hanging in the bootloader.
So for the past few days I've been searching the web and just managed to update the ROM. I was expecting that updating the ROM succesfully would mean my device would boot again, but it still keeps hanging in the bootloader (saying IPL 2.09 SPL 2.15 now, so the update did take place).
Does anyone has any idea whats wrong with my phone? Or how to fix this? Please help.

* bump *
I've been searching further and tried to do a SD dump, but I'm getting the message I don't got enough rights to perform a SD dump. This meens my S200 isn't CID unlocked. Is there any way to CID unlock the device without the need of booting into WM?

The solution to your problem
Hello, if you are having bootloader screen right after starting your mobile (prophet) check if your camera button is depressed since i had the similar problem. In my case i had to disassembly the phone in order to fix it. Right after fixing the button it worked fine

hi syzzer,
i really feel with you - why? - i have the exactly same problem. after i tried to upgrade my rom from o2-germany to another one the device isn't starting anymore and hangs in the beautiful-colored bootloader. and now, if i just even want to re-install the same or another rom, doesnt matter which one, the s200 wont start again. i think this is a really unlucky situation for us to stand alone with our weak pda =) hoping for more help, otherwise we have to take up our warranty and try to get it fixed by the store we did buy it (if a rom-update damage is still in warranty )
good luck
budy!

awechris said:
Hello, if you are having bootloader screen right after starting your mobile (prophet) check if your camera button is depressed since i had the similar problem. In my case i had to disassembly the phone in order to fix it. Right after fixing the button it worked fine
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in my case, the camera button is not pressed in... i truly don't know what to do hopeless? mhm?
greets!
budy!

hello Syzzer
I have the same problem, but i make a soft reset and it works.
Camera but + Com Button + Power
Wait until message appear.
You Get the message : For Hard reset press send
If you choose other key the system boots normaly.

I had already tried all your suggestions, but nothing seemed to work.
About a month ago I bought a Trinity. In the mean while, I forgot I had put my S200 in my bag and carried it around for a month. When I found it a week ago and started pressing random buttons, it suddenly booted and has been working ever since! The problem has gone as mysterious as it came. I can only imagine there was some hardware failure / dirt in my device that caused the trouble and is now gone / moved to some place it does not do harm. Because I already bought a Trinity, I gave the S200 to my brother. He's been using it ever since and did not have any problems. So keep your head up, there's hope!

I m also having the same problem
Now I am having the same problem, no button is pressed, and I can not install the NVID ROM
Actually I can install only a few ROMs, the NVID ROM was working before on my Neo perfectly but, I think it can be because I have changed many ROMs, from a month, actually I have tried different WM6 ROMs and I used NVID ROMs mostly for Step 1.
Now when I install any ROM, it shows a msg some nbf one after 80% or 95%
It can install the pdaviet first step ROM, but now the problem is that it hangs very much and it can not start Wifi, it has stopped working, a few more ROMs i have tried, but the WIFI is completely stopped.
When I press it in communication manager, it will show busy icon for a few seconds and will not start it in end.(I tried it in both WM5 and WM6, same problem, I also tried after soft reset and hard reset, the problem is still there)
Please someone help me out.

My SVP M600 phone got stuck at Starting screen

Hi Friends,
My new mobile phone SPV M600 got stuck whil starting showing four lines of messages as shown below.
IPL 2.10.0001
SPL 2.10.0001
GSM 02.07.20
OS 2.10.1.22
Can any one please help me in geting my phone to today's screen.
I also attached the screen shot for reference.

did you try a hard reset ?

Ya I tried both hard as well as soft reset but same screen is stuck again and agian.Can any one please help me in this regard as I am very new to PDA family.

Ok, first things first:
Since you are new to this, are you sure you preformed a hard reset?
It is done by holding power + camera + comm manager buttons (one on the right, two on the left) and pressing with stylus in the reset hole at the same time.
A message should appear asking you to press 'send' (green phone button) to confirm reset.
If this does not help, you may have a serious problem.
Please answer the following:
Is the device fully charged?
Phone will fail to boot if the battery is too low.
Did you install any software right before this happened?
This should have been resolved by hard reset, but just in case I am asking.
Did you change the ROM, attempted CID / SIM unlock?
This could require more serious measures than I can advise on.

I did exactly the same thing which you mentioned.But even then it is stuck at the same screen.
Ya u r right I unlocked my mobile using a software from eBay.The unlock was successfull and I tried to insert T-Mobile sim, it also captured the signal and I was able to make and recieve calls then after that I wantedly switched off the phone and then tried to start it, there got the problem.

Can any one help me in this regard please.

I am having the same problem, but my phone is not sim-locked.

I've got the same problem after attempting smart1_wm6_pp8mb.exe
I'm having the same problem with my G4 QTEK S200:
Attempted to upgrade to WM6 Rom using smart1_wm6_pp8mb.exe
After reboot the phone got stuck at the QTEK Screen
Tried Hard Reset (Camera+Power+Comm+Reset) followed the steps with the same results (bricked)
I also tried re-flashing the rom back to the factory one using RUU_Prophet_220734_2207114_024721_QtekWWE_Ship and ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.exe in Windows Vista with WMDC (Windows Mobile Device Center v. 6.0.6873) and the phone in boot loader mode (tri color screen) with working USB cable, with windows firewall disabled and symantec AV disabled as well, RUU keeps saying error 260 "the update utilitiy cannot connect to your pda phone..." .
Do you think I should try this process using XP instead? No matter what i try i keep getting the error 260
Any help would be greatly appreciated

Got it fixed!
it was definately a Vista issue. once i tried it in XP with ActiveSync it worked like a charm and i got my phone back up and running. also used spb backup and restored all my settings.

ipl/spl screen
i got the same problem with new rom wm6, and the 260 eror, my problem is that i have xp and the activesync does`t connect ...
... means i cant redo the original rom ????
PLEAAASEEE HELPPPP !!

Again My phone SPV M600 got stuck at IPL/SPL screen
Please Can some one advice me how to get my phone back.
I raised the same issue 7 months back after that my phone got recovered automatically and there were no issues till last month. Last month onwards it is again got the same problem and now it is permenantly stuck at that screen what ever you do.

yekanth said:
Please Can some one advice me how to get my phone back.
I raised the same issue 7 months back after that my phone got recovered automatically and there were no issues till last month. Last month onwards it is again got the same problem and now it is permenantly stuck at that screen what ever you do.
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A rom reinstall on xp solved my problems on that one. retry a couple of times! It may not work the first time! hard reset as well...
Try an official wm5 rom just in case
good luck

Can you please gimme step by step procedure
HI Phil,
I am new to these kind of installations . CAn you please Gimme step by step procedure for ROM installation.

mine is now also stuck, after trying to install new rom. wont connect to active sync either, have i fooked it? tried hard reset etc.
thanks

(with a turned off phone, press and hold camera button then insert USB cable)
then flash provider ROM
RECOVERING FROM ERROR IN STEP 8 WM5->WM6
1. Don't panic
2. Don't panic
3. Unplug the phone
4. Reset with stylus,and keep the Camera Button pressed.
5. A 3 color screen will appear(Bootloader Screen)
6. Connect your device with your PC,and run the NVID(no vendor) WM5 rom.
7. The device will be resetted after RUU(rom update utility)finishes
8. Repeat the WM6 upgrade,from STEP 5..
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from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310452

hi jay
i seen your post in n00b guys one, i fixed it!!!!, thank you so much, i couldnt remember how to get it to those 3 colours.
thanks again
Colin

Hi Iam unable to get the NVID ROM
Hi,
I am unable to get the NVID ROM. The Rapidshare link that has been provided in the other thread is not working. Can some one tell where can i get the ROM.

collywog19 said:
i seen your post ...
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no problem mate.
..and yekanth i see what u mean about the dead links. i have the files on my computer at home but i'm posting from my prophet right now, so i can't upload. Try using the "pdaviet temp" from one of the wm6 threads?
(http://rapidshare.com/files/54265407/Prophet_PV_Temp.zip)

Hi Iam able to update the Rom but no use
Hi,
To mention my phone is from orange-UK. I got the orange rom from our FTP site and did the flashing/update what ever you say.But still it is getting stuck at the same IPL/SPL screen. Iam very much worried that I will not get a proper solution for my problem.It will be very grate full if some one resolve my problem.

just seems strange...how did you fix it last time? did it just start working again? A random guess would be that the camera button got liquid spilled on it or is stuck in.
If the camera button is pressed in the phone will go to 3 colour screen every time it is turned on.
It won't do any harm if you try to press/move that button to see if u can "unstick" it, not likely I think but u never know...

Here's a tricky problem, need expertise!! Kind of urgent..

I have read and read and read. I have "bricked" my phone in the past and fixed it. I have used, tested, and flashed many roms from this site (Thanks to all cooks for their work!) but I still consider myself somewhat 'new' to troubleshooting.
I woke up this morning to make some important phone calls today and as luck would have it, my phone was stalled again. It's been doing that for a few weeks now. My last flash was Open Touch 5.0 UL I believe (either that or 5.2 biggy) and it has been working great except for the occasional freeze.
EDIT: Forgot to add, the actual problem is now it won't boot up after it froze this morning. Just sits at the boot screen
So I've tried my other methods of fixing it... /edit
Except this morning nothing is working. I have tried flashing with Orig. T-mobile ruu, tried SD flashing with the RUU_signed.nbh, tried restarting the computer, phone, removing battery and sim... NOTHING! When trying the sd flash (which I've never done before today, it reads and tells me to push the down button but then goes to bootloader screen and just sits there. With the RUU I'm getting err 300 but I'm using the SAME RUU (4.10...) that I've used in the past to reflash my phone AND tried the new one (4.26...)
Possible problem: Does it matter what kind of usb cable you use? I don't have the normal one I use as I am not home but I figured usb is usb...
I've read about it being a motherboard issue, how common is this?
I've read somethings about MTTY, would this apply to me??
Please help, anyone who has any suggestion, I'll try it!!
Stats:
IPL 4.10.0002
SPL 4.10.0000
NOT hard-spl'd
Wing w/ Open Touch Project 5.0 or 5.2

actualy the sd method needs hard spl thats all i can really provide

I appretiate it, that I did not know... I could barely find anything on how to do it even.

im having the same problem bt instead of freezing da screen jus goes different colors or jus goes gray and stays der

Thats basically what mine did. The colors would get messed up and no matter what button i pressed it would not do anything. My advice to you edrift, is BACK UP YOUR STUFF NOW and reflash it asap if you can still reboot. I can get into my phone at all now.

yea i tink i might jus throw my phone away.dis is jus gettin rediculous

Crashed T-mobile MDA Vario

Hi, all.
I've been reading a lot through these forums and I've learned a lot, but I don't seem to be able to fix this by myself. I have a Dutch T-mobile MDA Vario (WM5) that's over 3 years old so I'm not worried about voiding warranties.
A few weeks ago, my phone didn't want to boot anymore. I don't know if it's related, but around a week before the crash it had problems with finding the SIM card.
When I boot, it quickly gets stuck at the white background with gray/pink squares and the T-mobile logo. This is the data that's given (after a few factory resets):
IPL 2.21
SPL 2.21
GSM 02.19.11
OS 2.21.2.5
After that, it... just... hangs..., no matter how long I wait.
I tried to reset it to factory defaults (holding the three buttons + power button). The resetting seems to work, but then it gets stuck at the same screen again.
I came along forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613 <-- this thread, and I figured that I might as well try to flash it. I mean, if it doesn't work, well then at least I've tried. As you notice I'm new at this. I'm not afraid of electronics but flashing phone roms is new to me.
I can startup to the bootloader menu (photobutton + power) which tells me:
IPL 2.21
SPL 2.21
So, I've got a G3 device.
When I connect the USB cable to my pc (Win XP SP3), my PC gives the normal sound when a USB device is connected. the MDA nicely adds the text USB to the lower left of the screen. Nice. ActiveSync doesn't recognize it, but that seems to be normal, or so I read.
Following the thread's advice, I've downloaded the needed files and want to install them as ordered. First in the list is the Wizard_Love rom, so I go ahead and try to install it (from c:\XDA\final\). The first download link is broken, but at the end of the tread there is another link( to Wizard_Love_2.26.10.2_WWE_Novii_CF2.rar). The installer is in Spanish(?) but if it can give me back my phone, I'm fine with it. Besides, the readme is in English...
Then, after a short while, it gives me the following error:
ERRORE [300]: STRUMENTO DI AGGIORNAMENTO NON VALIDO
and some more text. I don't speak Spanish, but strumento will translate as instrument and non valido will undoubtedly be 'non-valid'.
It seems somehow that the communication still has some issues. I have just charged the battery, so that's not a problem here.
Do I have a wrong wizard_love rom? If yes, where can I get a proper one?
If not.. What else can I do?
Thanks in advance. You'll be my hero

You could always try to flash the original ROM and see if that gets you past the boot screens.
The installer language translates to Italian, ERROR [300]: INVALID UPDATE TOOL.
Try a different No ID Installer package, not the whole ROM just the No ID Installer.

Thanks! You have no idea how happy you made me..
Your comment on installing the original ROM sent me in the right direction. I went to t-mobile.nl and looked for updates (I shoud've done this much earlier). Where the hard reset failed, the official update worked flawless. I have yet to do the radio update, but I have my phone back! phew, 3 weeks with my old (by now- fossil) Samsung X100 made me realize how much I love this phone.. The QWERTY keyboard to begin with, my agenda, programs...