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Hi all!
I bought the Touch Dual last week and since then have been doing tens of installs/uninstalls to check what apps are out there etc (AE Button Plus was one of them).
I remember when i got it I could enter both TEXT and numbers from the sliding out number pad. I used the *XT9 button to differentiate between ABC, abc, XT9 - text input methods.
Now pressing the *XT9 buttons doesnt do anything anywhere - all i can enter with my kaypad are corresponding numbers.
I must have removed/unchecked something in the settings, but what?
Thanks in advance!
callix
callix2 said:
Hi all!
I bought the Touch Dual last week and since then have been doing tens of installs/uninstalls to check what apps are out there etc (AE Button Plus was one of them).
I remember when i got it I could enter both TEXT and numbers from the sliding out number pad. I used the *XT9 button to differentiate between ABC, abc, XT9 - text input methods.
Now pressing the *XT9 buttons doesnt do anything anywhere - all i can enter with my kaypad are corresponding numbers.
I must have removed/unchecked something in the settings, but what?
Thanks in advance!
callix
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Yes!! I too had that problem... It seems that after installing about 5 apps, this will happen. I hard-resetted about 5 times now and i still dont know what exactly causes this trouble
I have the same problem too.. I've posted it under this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=384160
Does anyone know how to solve it?
Solved
Fixed it. The alphabetical input from the hardware 16-keyboard is back in SMS/Word Mobile/Texting programs!!
Just go to Start > Programs > PDA Settings > ROM Settings > Enable T9.
This makes the hardware *xT9 button allow to switch between ABC, abc, #12, T9.
PS: Im using this ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364335). The problem occured after I was using the above ROM for a while, and it was fixed without reflashing anything.
Hope this helps!
Callix
is there like a registry fix for this problem instead of flashing an entire rom?
@sebastlim
there's no need to reflash anything. with my Niki Project 6.1 ROM, when the problem started, i just went to Just go to Start > Programs > PDA Settings > ROM Settings > Enable T9.
Callix
callix2 said:
@sebastlim
there's no need to reflash anything. with my Niki Project 6.1 ROM, when the problem started, i just went to Just go to Start > Programs > PDA Settings > ROM Settings > Enable T9.
Callix
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Yes, but that options is only available on that rom, others dont have it
And even doing that doesnt change anything on my niki rom.
Until I turned it off and back on again. D'oh!
Problem with physical slide out keyboard and soft input panel keyboards
I have a 20 key version touch dual and had this problem as well - and unlike the other posts, I had not installed any additional apps. The WM 6.1 version CE OS 5.2.19716.1.1.0.
Here is what is happenening:
1. The slide out physical keyboard will type only the numbers when the numeric keys are pressed. The alphabet keys on the sides q/w, a/s, z/x, o/p, ,/l etc only input the first letter and dont cycle on to the second letter [eg only q comes up - you cannot bring on w] and the xt9 stops functioning. Pressing the alt or sym/*/xt9 key does nothing other than typing up *.
2. The two soft input panel keyboards (touch keyboard 20 and touch keypad 12) revert to a qwerty keyboard and dont switch to a xt9 mode.
3. I tried using the Start-->Programs-->PDA Settings-->>check T9 option. It works but erratically. Often, it reverts back when the PDA is turned off and on [not soft reset]. When I go back to PDA settings and look, the T9 option is checked and yet the behaviour was non T9. I checked off and checked on T9 -->> works again. Sliding out the physical keypad seems to preserve the xt9 most of the time. Erratic..
I will try to install the fix from HTC
the difinite solution
Check whether PCM keyboard is installed and if yes, uninstall it. The problem will be solved!
If you install the appropriate version of EzInput (found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426281 ) it should re-enable your hardware keys.
Good luck!
I have a question for those of you (if any) who are using the letter recognizer, the block recognizer, or the original Windows Mobile keyboard as your input method on the Touch HD: Do you get word completion pop-ups?
I'm a long-time WM user (the Touch HD is my fifth WM device) and the letter recognizer is my preferred method of input and one of the reasons I like it is the convenience of not having to type entire long words most of the time, with the ability to simply pick from the completion suggestions pop-up instead. However, I get no completion pop-up on the Touch HD when I use the letter recognizer. The same is true for the block recognizer and the WM keyboard as well. Am I alone in experiencing this? Am I alone in being annoyed by this? What gives?...
I use the Letter Recognizer and find it faster than any of the keyboard. Make sure you enable T9 in the default keyboard and word completion will be available. I thought I lost it too when I accidentally disabled T9.
Thanks for your response. This tells me that something might be wrong on my device, because I get no word completion pop-ups even when I do that.
Here are all of my current settings related to this:
On the Full QWERTY keyboard, the "ABC <-> T9" slider is set to T9.
On the Compact QWERTY keyboard, the "ABC <-> T9" slider is set to T9.
Under "Touch Input Settings", "Word Completion in T9 mode" is selected, "Word Completion in ABC mode" is selected, "Auto-Substitution" is deselected, "Spell Correction" is deselected.
Under the input "Options" (the original WM input options), on the "Word Completion" tab, "Suggest words when entering text" is selected. (The "Suggest after entering" setting is "2 letters", the "Suggest" setting is "4 words", and "Add a space after word" is deselected.) And "Enable Auto Correct" is deselected.
Still no word completion suggestion pop-ups...
I have no idea what could be wrong!
If there's anyone out there with additional insight into this, your feedback would be appreciated. You might be my only hope.
It's odd, I set mine to the "phone keypad" and now it wont go back to any of the others, I've tried them all, selected them, go back in and *poof* it's gone back to a standard phone layout. Turning it on and off failed to fix this so I'm presuming I'm going to have to reset
I have the same problem here too.
What keyboards do you have installed? I have the SPB Keyboard, reckon that might affect things??
All my settings are the same as above...and HD Tweak says T9 and word completion are on. T9 and word completion wwork fine on the keyboards but not the letter/block recogniser.
I don't have any third party keyboard installed (if I don't count the HTC stuff that came with the phone). I do have a bunch of other software installed, on the other hand. But, I don't think any of those have anything to do with input methods (although, it's hard to discount "unintended consequences"...).
I must add that suggestions don't work for me on the Windows Mobile default keyboard either. (I'm not sure if you implied that it works on yours.)
So, my exact situation is as follows:
HTC Full QWERTY keyboard:
Suggestions displayed horizontally listed (i.e., HTC-proprietary)
HTC Compact QWERTY keyboard:
Suggestions displayed horizontally listed (i.e., HTC-proprietary)
HTC Phone keypad:
Suggestions (surprisingly) displayed horizontally listed (i.e., HTC-proprietary)
Windows default keyboard:
No suggestions
Letter recognizer:
No suggestions
Block recognizer:
No suggestions
Suggestions aren't applicable to the Transcriber, naturally.
Perhaps I should have tried this much sooner, but it just occurred to me to try a wider Google search on this topic, and I came across another thread on this site that seems like it might contain the solution(s):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441656&highlight=word+completion
I'm at work right now, so I can't try it right away, but I'll surely do it as soon as I get home. If anyone else with this problem is willing to try that before me, please let us know about the result.
gadgetuk437 said:
I have the same problem here too.
What keyboards do you have installed? I have the SPB Keyboard, reckon that might affect things??
All my settings are the same as above...and HD Tweak says T9 and word completion are on. T9 and word completion wwork fine on the keyboards but not the letter/block recogniser.
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I use the phone keypad on mine and it was fine up until yesterday.
The only thing it gives now is numbers! every other method of text input appears to be ok
Strange, I have had no issues with word complete as long as T9 is selected in the default HTC Full QWERTY keyboard or any of the HTC keyboard. Had this issue with my Omnia in the past where if T9 is activated, the Word Complete pop-up won't work and I had to do a registry tweak to enable word complete, after which T9 is disabled in the other keyboards.
One questoin from a newbie -
i have a problem that I can not menege to use Letter Recognizer.
In settings for inpust I select Letter Recognizer. And confirm.
But always I get keybord. If I open settings again the Full Querty is chosen.
thanx
sorry - I've read the f... manual
I was to lazy
xmaspast said:
I use the phone keypad on mine and it was fine up until yesterday.
The only thing it gives now is numbers! every other method of text input appears to be ok
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I had a similar problem on my rom (German) after setting T9 to enabled in HD Tweak. Setting T9 in the keyboard settings is fine but you might wanna try to deactivate it in HD Tweak if you enabled it there before.
should it only work when T9 is on ? Or should it also be on when you use ABC?
Cause I would like to have it on when I enabled ABC
I use the letter recogniser about 50% of the time.. I find it slightly quicker than the keyboard on WM.. However as a long time user of UIQ... SE P800/900/990/1 I wish there was something similar to the letter recogniser available on those?? Any one know? It was so logical.. Use the lower half of the screen for letters, top for numbers, and straddle the middle for capitals.. Not like WM where you are restricted to a small box at the bottom.
anyone know if you can get this for WM6.1?
Well, I'm happy to report that the solution explained in the post at the following URL has done what I was trying to achieve (post #8 on that thread):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2630663&postcount=8
This brings back the word completion pop-up lists on the standard Windows Mobile input methods. It does eliminate the HTC word completion on the HTC input methods, though (including T9, which makes the Compact QWERTY useless for typing words). But, if you're not interested in those input methods and all you want is to be able to use the Letter Recognizer, Block Recognizer, or WM keyboard with word completion, this may be your solution. (Naturally, try it at your own risk...)
memko123 said:
sorry - I've read the f... manual
I was to lazy
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How exactly did you get the Letter Recogniser to work? I used to have it in the OEM ROM but my Enable_recognisers.cab doesn't seem to work on Dutty's 2.1 xtreme ROM.... or is it me??
When I want to use the keyboard and have the Full QUERTY keyboard selected, it's in numeric mode. When I tap ABC to get to the alfanumeric mode nothing happens. What is the solution?
Axum
Did you try tapping on the right side of the keyboard button so you can choose which keyboard you want to use?
Right hand side there is a abc button, is it not there?
yes, I tried that, both full or compact QWERTY is not working when I select them and then tap ABC. When I select the standard Windows Mobile keyboard, then I get a Qwerty keyboard that I can use.
I had this problem earlier on the same phone (but I did a hard reset then) and now the problem is back.
The problem started when I selected 123 for the first time in the Full Qwerty mode.
Axum
Anything installed before the problems started?
I've had this problem before as well. Do you have any other SIP's installed?
I have the same problem, except mine also does it with the
123
456
789
Caps0Symbol
keyboard. Yes, a horrid explanation, but I have no clue what the English word for it is, since I'm running Danish OS.
go here for a few fixes
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=617541
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=507768
same happened to me today, and it came back after doing the regedit fix
i found that the change to T9 mode in advance config or HDtweak was what was causing it to come back
have now disabled all the T9 options throughout and seems to have stayed put
How do I completely remove t9 from full qwerty? I dont even want to see the little bar that appears when I begin to type.
Thanks
CorruptedSanity said:
How do I completely remove t9 from full qwerty? I dont even want to see the little bar that appears when I begin to type.
Thanks
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Go to touch input settings and uncheck everything.
I did, I no longer get suggestions but the knob or switch is on T9 by default when I begin to type and I get the bar above that duplicates whats being typed (in an sms for example).
CorruptedSanity said:
I did, I no longer get suggestions but the knob or switch is on T9 by default when I begin to type and I get the bar above that duplicates whats being typed (in an sms for example).
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Hmm strange sorry man I got nothin. Maybe disable supportmssip in hklm/software/tegic/et9 ?
Ok I noticed that its on ABC not t9 when I attempt to enter text on tasks for note for example, but text entry in sms is set to t9 by default. Weird, shoulndt it be consistent between applications.
Whenever a sms is open, the touch screen keyboard that is opened is supposed to be full qwerty. However, mine has turned in a number keypad. There is no way i can change to full qwerty again. I can change into transcriber, block recognizer, letter recongnizer but cannot revert back into qwerty. How can this be?
Even a soft-reset cannot solve this. Can anyone help? Thanks
If I tap the "Up" arrow next to the SIP "Show/Hide" icon I get a popup menu that offers ...
Touch Input Settings
English >
Phone Keypad (this will be what you have selected)
Full QWERTY (this is what you want)
Keyboard
Other Input Methods >
Ta
Dave
Did you turn on the T9 option with HD Tweak? This caused the same problem on the Touch HD, might be the same on the TP2.....just an idea....
DaveShaw said:
If I tap the "Up" arrow next to the SIP "Show/Hide" icon I get a popup menu that offers ...
Touch Input Settings
English >
Phone Keypad (this will be what you have selected)
Full QWERTY (this is what you want)
Keyboard
Other Input Methods >
Ta
Dave
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Er Dave.... thanks for the suggestion. I already know how to change different input options from arrow up key. Sorry I didnt make myself clear earlier.
The problem is that even when I choose qwerty.... the number keypad still appears. It has happened before and the only way I can go back to qwerty is to go back to previous backup setting.
I'm just wondering if anyone else has faced any problem like this.
michi123 said:
Did you turn on the T9 option with HD Tweak? This caused the same problem on the Touch HD, might be the same on the TP2.....just an idea....
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Hi michi, I never use HD tweak and T9 option before. Only use qwerty and hardware keyboard only. This number keypad just appeared out of nowhere.
st8800 said:
Er Dave.... thanks for the suggestion. I already know how to change different input options from arrow up key. Sorry I didnt make myself clear earlier.
The problem is that even when I choose qwerty.... the number keypad still appears. It has happened before and the only way I can go back to qwerty is to go back to previous backup setting.
I'm just wondering if anyone else has faced any problem like this.
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Oh well, worth a shot...
Try the other guys suggestions
Dave
See... funny thing is that 5hrs ago, I backed up the device. During this time, I did not install any software and hardly used the phone except for some sms and inputing new contact info. Suddenly, the qwerty keypad input doesn't appear any more.
I just restored my backup and the qwerty keypad is up again. Hope someone knows what is going on, if not, I have to backup everyday!!!
It happened to me too. I changed the registry so I could map keyboard keys to emulators, changing the eT9 IME to the windows mobile default. Perhaps you have done this? If so, change the values back and it fixes the problem after a soft reset.
I think the registry location was HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts
Layout Text should be "eT9 IME",
Ime File should be "\windows\eT9ime.dll"
I have same problem
I give up on the keyboard for now. Not sure what broke it and I didn't backup everyday. Registry looks a bit different for me.
I did this previously at it work very well.
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Originally Posted by beemerTPPC
IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
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Today it happened again.... lucky I backup last night. 1 hour ago everything was still working. Again.... no new software or settings changed. What could be the problem?
I checked the settings are still the same.... now even suggested words don't appear.
Sigh... until a solution can be found... I just have to keep doing backup / restore....
mikeinashed said:
It happened to me too. I changed the registry so I could map keyboard keys to emulators, changing the eT9 IME to the windows mobile default. Perhaps you have done this? If so, change the values back and it fixes the problem after a soft reset.
I think the registry location was HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts
Layout Text should be "eT9 IME",
Ime File should be "\windows\eT9ime.dll"
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I cant choose eT9ime.dll because I really like the suggested words to appear.
This works form every time
Just change
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime.change CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0
cjatcti said:
Just change
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime.change CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0
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Hmm... strange my CurrentET9Style was set at 8. What does this change do?
thanks. I had the same problem on my HTC Fuze.
This helped: HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime.change CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0
but I have a different problem. (had this before the reg edit)
my problem is: If I write hello it'll automaically become hellHello... and if I write it it'll become iIt.. I switched off capitalization but tht didn;t help!!
Worked!!
This reg change did it for me cheers!!!!
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Just change
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime.change CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0
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I just started having this same problem today. I tried cjatcti remedy, and it worked so far . QWERTY keyboard is back to normal. If the phone keyboard comes back, I'll let you all know.
Excellent work. Worked very well so now I have the word selection and the keyboard I like. THANKS
Wish
I would have seen this thread before I hard reset.
Changing the CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0 works ... but once I go into, say edit a contact, then the number pad will re-appear again. The registry key is modified back to 1 again ... any quick trick to stop this? really don't want to change the key again and again...
I use my Kaiser with the ROM PDA Corner Ultimate X-v9 a six months ago without any problem. Today i saw the first page of the forum the application SMSer from "oldsap". I found interesting and tried to install. Soon after the installation I was testing it and realized that I had the same problem as everyone here. Changing CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0 solved my problem. I think in my case the problem appeared after the installation of SMSer, so i uninstaled and my QWERTY is working normal now.
I've installed Swype and really like it. I'm using SIPchange to enable it as a default. Unfortunately, XT9 will interfere with the words selected by Swype even after you've picked the right word. The only way to disable this is to manually change to Touch Input keyboard and disable XT9 on the keyboard before changing back to Swype.
I've already disabled both Spell Correction and Word Completion in Touch Input under Settings> Personal> Input> Touch Input> Options, but XT9 still turns on the next time I restart the phone.
Hi, I'm using swype too and haven't noticed any interference from XT9, but I might not have known what I'm looking for.
What are your symptoms?
I have had that happen to me before on certain Roms... cant tell you which one... usually, it works fine (I am using Topix Rom now)
When it did happen, I turned off XT9 under the settings but I ALSO opened the default keyboard and turned it off there but pressing the key.... moved back to swype after that and the xt9 word options were gone... just the usual swype dictionary/options at times.... Soft reset didn't change anything... it was all ok still
Hope this helps
Unfortunately for me, once I shutdown/soft reset the phone, XT9 is automatically activated on the Touch Input keyboard again even though everything has already been turned off in the Settings>Personal>Input. Also, it seems that the Touch Input keyboard automatically defaults to one of the Chinese input methods instead of English. Maybe that's where the problem lies. Where can I default the Touch Input keyboard to English?
BTW, I have my Locale set as Australia, so that isn't the problem.
The symptoms are: Once you've "Swyped" the word and pick the one you want, XT9 then shows up with it's word choices and either shows the same word or if I have it initial caps, make it all small letters
I also noticed that in Settings>Personal>Input, when I select Swype then click the "OK" button, it doesn't save the selection, and goes back to "Touch Input" when I open the "Input" dialogue again. I guess this probably means that some of my registry entries are toast...
That is indeed weird... do you have something like SIP change installed? I use that to start Swype by default during startup after a restart.. Don't know if that might help...
Yes, I do have SIPchange installed, but it's already set to Swype as the default.
I had the same problem and this is my partial solution.
Go to HKLM/Softwares/Tegic/eT9/IsSupportMSSIPContact
Change the Dword from 1 to 0.
this will get rid of XT9 for Swype but only if it is NOT the default. Therefore, there is the nagging inconvenience of having to change it to Swype every time your soft reset. But it is better than that nothing.
Thanks for the partial solution. It's at least better than what I'm doing now after every reboot, which is to:
1. change Swype to Touch Input
2. change Touch Input to EN so that the keyboard shows up
3. click on the XT9/ABC button
4. change Touch Input back to Swype..
One thing to note, I just went to the registry and there isn't the value you listed. However, there is the following string value:
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\LRU_MS_InputMethod and the value is Swype.
I'm wondering if this is what is causing XT9 to activate when Swype is active.. Do you have this value in your registry? what value is it?
Quick edit to note that I added a DWORD IsSupportMSSIPContact with value "0" and soft reset... Sorry to say that it didn't disable XT9 even if Touch Input was defaulted. Guess my problem is slightly different than yours.
Yes, all those values are the same. Need ot check if you also disable xt9 using some .cab. If not then you will need to do the following:
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409\Ime File
Change it to read as compime.dll
and
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409\Layout Text
Change to COMP IME
This will disable eT9. Please remember the original values should you want to revert back.
I think that should work.
have fun.
weenween, the two registry values you gave are already what is on my phone..
But XT9 still enables itself when I restart the phone. I've now resigned myself to disabling XT9 on the Touch Input keyboard manually each time I restart the phone.
In any case, thanks for your help.
I have exactly the same problem adn symptoms as GregWee. Must be becasue we both have Hong Kong HD2s where the default english keyboard is PinYin?
I have a similar issue. I have a TMOUS HD2 with QQ 2010 mobile loaded on it for chinese text entry. The QQ keypad has become the default everytime I reboot - entirely unwanted. Somehow it interferes with the contact dropdown list in messaging and email. It has something to do with the T9 staying on when entering a contact name. I installed sipchange but it does not overide the QQ default after a soft reset.
After changing between keyboards a few time it begins to work properly in email and then finally in messages. Right now, since the last soft reboot and playing around, when I am in either email or messages the stock keyboard will automatically switch from T9 to abc when I move the cursor to enter a contact name. The contacts appear as I type as they should. Swype works fine too. I have no idea what I did to get it to work but I have had the same experience several times today. Hopefully I will figure it out.
I would like to know a way to override the QQ as the default keyboard. I think this might fix the problem.
Any suggestions?