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Keyboard input settings won't apply! And another question...

Hi there... I tried to change my keyboard input to the phonekeyboard, (don't exactly know the english name of this, since I'm running Danish OS), but it wouldn't apply. I'd press "OK", but nothing changed... It was still complete QWERTY, so I went back into settings, and saw it had been reset. So I tried again, OK, and back in, and it was back to Complete QWERTY... Then I downloaded TenGO Thumb, just thought it might help, but it didn't... The freaking settings won't apply! Help?
And the other issue I have is, that I can't run .exe files on my HD... It just comes up with a fail message. How to fix this? I'm desperately searching for .cab files since I can't use .exe files...

*.exe usually works only on the PC, so you have to use ActiveSync and then, after a syncronisation, launch app's setup on PC.

Oh okay. Thanks.
Any info on the keyboard settings not applying?

You can't change the keyboard settings from start->settings->input, its some sort of bug I think.
Instead you can change it doing this:
-go to any menu that allows keyboard typing and you will notice that near the virtual keyboard popup button there is a small arrow facing up, if you tap that arrow a menu will popup and you can change the keyboard settings there compact/full/etc , and it works!

problem with Full QWERTY

When I want to use the keyboard and have the Full QUERTY keyboard selected, it's in numeric mode. When I tap ABC to get to the alfanumeric mode nothing happens. What is the solution?
Axum

Did you try tapping on the right side of the keyboard button so you can choose which keyboard you want to use?
Right hand side there is a abc button, is it not there?

yes, I tried that, both full or compact QWERTY is not working when I select them and then tap ABC. When I select the standard Windows Mobile keyboard, then I get a Qwerty keyboard that I can use.
I had this problem earlier on the same phone (but I did a hard reset then) and now the problem is back.
The problem started when I selected 123 for the first time in the Full Qwerty mode.
Axum

Anything installed before the problems started?

I've had this problem before as well. Do you have any other SIP's installed?

I have the same problem, except mine also does it with the
123
456
789
Caps0Symbol
keyboard. Yes, a horrid explanation, but I have no clue what the English word for it is, since I'm running Danish OS.

go here for a few fixes
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=617541
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=507768
same happened to me today, and it came back after doing the regedit fix
i found that the change to T9 mode in advance config or HDtweak was what was causing it to come back
have now disabled all the T9 options throughout and seems to have stayed put

How do I completely remove t9 from full qwerty? I dont even want to see the little bar that appears when I begin to type.
Thanks

CorruptedSanity said:
How do I completely remove t9 from full qwerty? I dont even want to see the little bar that appears when I begin to type.
Thanks
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Go to touch input settings and uncheck everything.

I did, I no longer get suggestions but the knob or switch is on T9 by default when I begin to type and I get the bar above that duplicates whats being typed (in an sms for example).

CorruptedSanity said:
I did, I no longer get suggestions but the knob or switch is on T9 by default when I begin to type and I get the bar above that duplicates whats being typed (in an sms for example).
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Hmm strange sorry man I got nothin. Maybe disable supportmssip in hklm/software/tegic/et9 ?

Ok I noticed that its on ABC not t9 when I attempt to enter text on tasks for note for example, but text entry in sms is set to t9 by default. Weird, shoulndt it be consistent between applications.

Full Qwerty Keyboard turns into number keypad

Whenever a sms is open, the touch screen keyboard that is opened is supposed to be full qwerty. However, mine has turned in a number keypad. There is no way i can change to full qwerty again. I can change into transcriber, block recognizer, letter recongnizer but cannot revert back into qwerty. How can this be?
Even a soft-reset cannot solve this. Can anyone help? Thanks

If I tap the "Up" arrow next to the SIP "Show/Hide" icon I get a popup menu that offers ...
Touch Input Settings
English >
Phone Keypad (this will be what you have selected)
Full QWERTY (this is what you want)
Keyboard
Other Input Methods >
Ta
Dave

Did you turn on the T9 option with HD Tweak? This caused the same problem on the Touch HD, might be the same on the TP2.....just an idea....

DaveShaw said:
If I tap the "Up" arrow next to the SIP "Show/Hide" icon I get a popup menu that offers ...
Touch Input Settings
English >
Phone Keypad (this will be what you have selected)
Full QWERTY (this is what you want)
Keyboard
Other Input Methods >
Ta
Dave
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Er Dave.... thanks for the suggestion. I already know how to change different input options from arrow up key. Sorry I didnt make myself clear earlier.
The problem is that even when I choose qwerty.... the number keypad still appears. It has happened before and the only way I can go back to qwerty is to go back to previous backup setting.
I'm just wondering if anyone else has faced any problem like this.

michi123 said:
Did you turn on the T9 option with HD Tweak? This caused the same problem on the Touch HD, might be the same on the TP2.....just an idea....
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Hi michi, I never use HD tweak and T9 option before. Only use qwerty and hardware keyboard only. This number keypad just appeared out of nowhere.

st8800 said:
Er Dave.... thanks for the suggestion. I already know how to change different input options from arrow up key. Sorry I didnt make myself clear earlier.
The problem is that even when I choose qwerty.... the number keypad still appears. It has happened before and the only way I can go back to qwerty is to go back to previous backup setting.
I'm just wondering if anyone else has faced any problem like this.
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Oh well, worth a shot...
Try the other guys suggestions
Dave

See... funny thing is that 5hrs ago, I backed up the device. During this time, I did not install any software and hardly used the phone except for some sms and inputing new contact info. Suddenly, the qwerty keypad input doesn't appear any more.
I just restored my backup and the qwerty keypad is up again. Hope someone knows what is going on, if not, I have to backup everyday!!!

It happened to me too. I changed the registry so I could map keyboard keys to emulators, changing the eT9 IME to the windows mobile default. Perhaps you have done this? If so, change the values back and it fixes the problem after a soft reset.
I think the registry location was HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts
Layout Text should be "eT9 IME",
Ime File should be "\windows\eT9ime.dll"

I have same problem
I give up on the keyboard for now. Not sure what broke it and I didn't backup everyday. Registry looks a bit different for me.

I did this previously at it work very well.
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Originally Posted by beemerTPPC
IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
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Today it happened again.... lucky I backup last night. 1 hour ago everything was still working. Again.... no new software or settings changed. What could be the problem?
I checked the settings are still the same.... now even suggested words don't appear.
Sigh... until a solution can be found... I just have to keep doing backup / restore....

mikeinashed said:
It happened to me too. I changed the registry so I could map keyboard keys to emulators, changing the eT9 IME to the windows mobile default. Perhaps you have done this? If so, change the values back and it fixes the problem after a soft reset.
I think the registry location was HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts
Layout Text should be "eT9 IME",
Ime File should be "\windows\eT9ime.dll"
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I cant choose eT9ime.dll because I really like the suggested words to appear.

This works form every time
Just change
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime.change CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0

cjatcti said:
Just change
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime.change CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0
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Hmm... strange my CurrentET9Style was set at 8. What does this change do?

thanks. I had the same problem on my HTC Fuze.
This helped: HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime.change CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0
but I have a different problem. (had this before the reg edit)
my problem is: If I write hello it'll automaically become hellHello... and if I write it it'll become iIt.. I switched off capitalization but tht didn;t help!!

Worked!!
This reg change did it for me cheers!!!!

cjatcti said:
Just change
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime.change CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0
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I just started having this same problem today. I tried cjatcti remedy, and it worked so far . QWERTY keyboard is back to normal. If the phone keyboard comes back, I'll let you all know.

Excellent work. Worked very well so now I have the word selection and the keyboard I like. THANKS

Wish
I would have seen this thread before I hard reset.

Changing the CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0 works ... but once I go into, say edit a contact, then the number pad will re-appear again. The registry key is modified back to 1 again ... any quick trick to stop this? really don't want to change the key again and again...

I use my Kaiser with the ROM PDA Corner Ultimate X-v9 a six months ago without any problem. Today i saw the first page of the forum the application SMSer from "oldsap". I found interesting and tried to install. Soon after the installation I was testing it and realized that I had the same problem as everyone here. Changing CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0 solved my problem. I think in my case the problem appeared after the installation of SMSer, so i uninstaled and my QWERTY is working normal now.

Turn off XT9 permanently and stop it from interfering with Swype?

I've installed Swype and really like it. I'm using SIPchange to enable it as a default. Unfortunately, XT9 will interfere with the words selected by Swype even after you've picked the right word. The only way to disable this is to manually change to Touch Input keyboard and disable XT9 on the keyboard before changing back to Swype.
I've already disabled both Spell Correction and Word Completion in Touch Input under Settings> Personal> Input> Touch Input> Options, but XT9 still turns on the next time I restart the phone.

Hi, I'm using swype too and haven't noticed any interference from XT9, but I might not have known what I'm looking for.
What are your symptoms?

I have had that happen to me before on certain Roms... cant tell you which one... usually, it works fine (I am using Topix Rom now)
When it did happen, I turned off XT9 under the settings but I ALSO opened the default keyboard and turned it off there but pressing the key.... moved back to swype after that and the xt9 word options were gone... just the usual swype dictionary/options at times.... Soft reset didn't change anything... it was all ok still
Hope this helps

Unfortunately for me, once I shutdown/soft reset the phone, XT9 is automatically activated on the Touch Input keyboard again even though everything has already been turned off in the Settings>Personal>Input. Also, it seems that the Touch Input keyboard automatically defaults to one of the Chinese input methods instead of English. Maybe that's where the problem lies. Where can I default the Touch Input keyboard to English?
BTW, I have my Locale set as Australia, so that isn't the problem.
The symptoms are: Once you've "Swyped" the word and pick the one you want, XT9 then shows up with it's word choices and either shows the same word or if I have it initial caps, make it all small letters
I also noticed that in Settings>Personal>Input, when I select Swype then click the "OK" button, it doesn't save the selection, and goes back to "Touch Input" when I open the "Input" dialogue again. I guess this probably means that some of my registry entries are toast...

That is indeed weird... do you have something like SIP change installed? I use that to start Swype by default during startup after a restart.. Don't know if that might help...

Yes, I do have SIPchange installed, but it's already set to Swype as the default.

I had the same problem and this is my partial solution.
Go to HKLM/Softwares/Tegic/eT9/IsSupportMSSIPContact
Change the Dword from 1 to 0.
this will get rid of XT9 for Swype but only if it is NOT the default. Therefore, there is the nagging inconvenience of having to change it to Swype every time your soft reset. But it is better than that nothing.

Thanks for the partial solution. It's at least better than what I'm doing now after every reboot, which is to:
1. change Swype to Touch Input
2. change Touch Input to EN so that the keyboard shows up
3. click on the XT9/ABC button
4. change Touch Input back to Swype..
One thing to note, I just went to the registry and there isn't the value you listed. However, there is the following string value:
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\LRU_MS_InputMethod and the value is Swype.
I'm wondering if this is what is causing XT9 to activate when Swype is active.. Do you have this value in your registry? what value is it?
Quick edit to note that I added a DWORD IsSupportMSSIPContact with value "0" and soft reset... Sorry to say that it didn't disable XT9 even if Touch Input was defaulted. Guess my problem is slightly different than yours.

Yes, all those values are the same. Need ot check if you also disable xt9 using some .cab. If not then you will need to do the following:
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409\Ime File
Change it to read as compime.dll
and
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409\Layout Text
Change to COMP IME
This will disable eT9. Please remember the original values should you want to revert back.
I think that should work.
have fun.

weenween, the two registry values you gave are already what is on my phone..
But XT9 still enables itself when I restart the phone. I've now resigned myself to disabling XT9 on the Touch Input keyboard manually each time I restart the phone.
In any case, thanks for your help.

I have exactly the same problem adn symptoms as GregWee. Must be becasue we both have Hong Kong HD2s where the default english keyboard is PinYin?

I have a similar issue. I have a TMOUS HD2 with QQ 2010 mobile loaded on it for chinese text entry. The QQ keypad has become the default everytime I reboot - entirely unwanted. Somehow it interferes with the contact dropdown list in messaging and email. It has something to do with the T9 staying on when entering a contact name. I installed sipchange but it does not overide the QQ default after a soft reset.
After changing between keyboards a few time it begins to work properly in email and then finally in messages. Right now, since the last soft reboot and playing around, when I am in either email or messages the stock keyboard will automatically switch from T9 to abc when I move the cursor to enter a contact name. The contacts appear as I type as they should. Swype works fine too. I have no idea what I did to get it to work but I have had the same experience several times today. Hopefully I will figure it out.
I would like to know a way to override the QQ as the default keyboard. I think this might fix the problem.
Any suggestions?

[Q] Cant get rid of compact keyboard

Hi All
Bit of a silly problem this.
I flashed my HTC HD2 with a Windows embedded handheld ROM a couple of years ago. I haven't used this phone for ages and have no idea which ROM I flashed.
Anyway, it all worked fine until one day, I found I was using the compact keyboard (2 letters / key) and I cant find a way to get rid of it and return to the normal keyboard)
IIRC originally there was an input selector icon below the keyboard. But on this ROM all I get below the keyboard are
Windows, Done, Keyboard, cancel, OK
I've tried settings>personal>Input where this is an option for phone keypad and compact qwerty but it is not selected and changing it seems to make no difference to the keyboard in use.
Its driving me nuts so can anyone tell me how I get my regular keyboard back?
TFAI

tap & hold perhaps to top of keyboard icon or slightly to left or right perhaps !

If only . . . .!!
I've almost worn a hole in that part of the screen!!

Normally it tap & hold for about half a second slightly to right on the keyboard.
Perhaps try it with keyboard open or closed.
Could also try tap & slide to left on keyboard icon with keyboard open .
If all fails you could do a search for a sip selector tool that can be used for toggling through sips or use sipchange & select sip you want & set delay to 8sec & soft reboot & it should have loaded your chosen sip once booted.

Mister B said:
Normally it tap & hold for about half a second slightly to right on the keyboard.
Perhaps try it with keyboard open or closed.
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Tap and hold to the right brought up a Text Input settgins window (hopeful but closer examination showed it onoy contained XT9 settings, a tutorial on text input and 'Symbol Lock' + 'Typing Sound'
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Could also try tap & slide to left on keyboard icon with keyboard open ..
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That brought up a single small pane which had 'Touch Input' and a green circle.
Then touch and hold that made it go away
Then touch to the left of the keyboard icon produced the desired menu !!
I mean WoW, how is anyine supposed to work that out!!!
Anyway I donwloaded the cab in case I get stuck again
Thanks for the advice

Glad you worked it out :-S
Is a bit out of the usual on your ROM.
Really needed a more detailed sip icon so was intuitive of left/right tap zones :-/
Most proper roms have htc ezsip built in which also can have a shortcut in programs for activating a full sip selection menu.
if you decide you want a change/improvement I would recommend the NRG custom ROM, link below should you ever want try it.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/bhh47jlowm9zph6/Energy.Leo.23699.Sense2.5.Reference.Nov.24.7z

Another one I remembered for sip selection was vjsipswitch.
this pops up a sip menu from shortcut in programs, you can also make advanced shortcuts to select specific sip or have toggle effect
cab & thread link below to round this thread off nicely for anyone who stumbles on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486655