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XDA II Delay in Receiving Calls

Been having a problem on my XDA II in that when I receive a call and answer it, it takes a few seconds before I can hear the other person. Sometime it woks fine and others the person can hear me but I can't hear them ?
It has been back for repair 3 times and it still does the same thing. The speaker is fine as it works loud and clear, it's only on incoming calls not on outgoing.
The place where I have bought it will now swap it out for a XDA IIi as you cant get the II anymore around here. That's great but I would still like to know why it went wrong ? Anyone got any clues ?

plz explain what is delayed.
Could it be just too much s/w running?
I found that when I am running activesync, calendar & contacts sometimes there is an awful delay in the response of the MDAII. Especially the BT headset has delays then of more then 20seconds (so I answer call on MDAII and then transfer it to headset when this occurs).

delay on phone
:shock: Me too!
Not sure if I should answer on screen,accept or reject,or green button.Both seem to delay,often with caller ringing again.

When the phone rings and you answer it. You hear nothing. It's a case of hello ? hello ? etc. They can hear you but I can't hear them then all of a sudden their sound will just kick in.
Actually sometimes when I dial out, I never hear a ringing tone and all of a sudden the person cuts in.
There is a delay. I have no software running at all. It does this from a hard reset as well.
What bugs me is that it has gone back 3 times and they claim it has been tested and fixed. It clearly hasn't.
Hope the XDA IIi is better, cos this was very annoying.

Hi Ekko,
Would you happen to be running Pocket Bluetooth Tools?
Cheers,
Pete

Hi, the phone was fine until about 6 mths old when it started doing this. I had Pocket Bluetooth on it and it used to be totally fine. This never affected it at all.
Obviously once this problem arose, I have hard reset the machine on a number of occasions and have used it as a clean machine. Same problem ? So not down to Bluetooth Tools.

Hands Free mode
In order to use an Himalaya with a BT headset you need to run 2.20 translated. The Hands Free profile works better and it will even support caller ID and there is no delay when answering calls.

BT headset-LAST NUMBER REDIAL

Hi,
does anyone know how is it possible to disable the LAST NUMBER REDIAL function? If my BT headset is in my pocket it happens many times, that the "-" button is pressed and it activates the LAST NUMBER REDIAL. It is very annoying....you can imagine. Is there any REGISTRY hack or somehing like that to solve this problem?
THX

That has to be one of the most annoying things!
Especially when you are having a moan about someone after the original call!!
Vijay??

Nobody has the same problem?

me too - it happens for me because I changed the LaunchAPEnable registry setting from 1 to 0 to send the sound to my headset over BT
WOlfgang

Can you clarify this problem? Which button is it that's being pressed? Hardware key or on the headset?
Explain clearly and I'll look into it and if I can help...
V

Vijay, you're too kind for your own good.. heh heh. (but we all appreciate it )
I had this problem with my BT headset and speaking for myself, it's when you hold down the button on the headset, you'll initiate last number redial.
If you just press the button you'll launch Voice Dialler..
I used to keep my BT headset in my pocket and I had both these issues.. eventually I resolved both of these problems by buying a £3 neck strap off ebay and wearing the headset round my neck.. :wink:
cheers,
gaspx
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BT on for nearly 2 weeks!!

gaspx: there is a technique I'm working on which might help us out here.
It's messy and very very early stages right now, and sent me over the edge last weekend. But if the technique works, it'll open some very interesting doors. Please remind me in a few days. I'm afraid that I can't think of a quick solution, but in my usual style, an unnecessarily complicated solution might surface...
V

i have had the same problems aswell...
although i have been looking into the phone tools that only turn the bluetooth on when you have a phone call,
i am wondering if that will allouw bluetooth to turn on when transfering audio

VJVolubilis will automatically enable bluetooth and transfer audio (or attempt to).
V

Anyone figure out a way to do this yet? It sucks because I keep accidentally calling people from my headset.

I've looked around for a solution to this problem for a while now. Anyone come up with something? Vijay?

Any development on this issue yet? I accidently called twice today. Very annoying because I kept my BT headset in pant's pocket. Please help, Vjay and others professors.

How about powering down the headset? Maybe I don't get it but....
I just triple-checked, my Motorola H500, H820 & H700 will reconnect when I power them back up & press the button once as long as the phone's BT is on, even mid-call. Do these newfangled machines not offer that? What I do is answer the call on the unit w/ one ear and if I think it'll be more than a minute, I put the headset on the other ear to power it up, press to connect, and I don't miss a word (not on the H820, I'll take a pause to switch to that one when I pull it out of my gadget-laden diaper bag. Every mom needs a BT headset!). I think it'll hook up even during ringing, but calling from my skype seemed a little overkill for this response.
(I'm using a modified/very-simply-reduced version of the Jaguar ROM on a wizard at the moment, and many of Vijay's venerably ingenious tools.)

Bluetooth Static When Answering Calls

I have a Cingular 8125 paired with a Plantronics 320. When I answer an incoming call with my bluetooth headset, the other party hears static while the headset establishes a connection. Once the connection is ready, the static disappears. It only lasts for a second or so, but is highly annoying to the other party. Has anyone else experienced this or have a solution? This also happens with my old Tekkeon BT headset, so I know it is a phone issue. Thanks!

Are you using both ring and vibrate at the same time? Perhaps a custom ringtone?
If so, I have had the same situation. Unfortunately, the only solution at the moment that I know of is to turn off the vibrate, or don't use Bluetooth.
I submitted this to HTC a while back after experiencing it on my 8125, and an 8125 I had to replace it.
EDIT: I've only tested it with two 8125's, and a Samsung WEP150 and Motorola H810 (I think) headsets..
Also, as an experiment, try calling yourself from another phone, and answer with the headset. What you'll likely notice is that the static goes away as soon as the vibrating stops.

sk0t. Thanks for the reply and info. It sucks that we have to disable vibrate. I'll give it a shot and see if I don't blow out my friends' eardrums.
*UPDATE*
That did the trick. Thanks.

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*UPDATE*
That did the trick. Thanks.
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Suspected it might. It certainly does suck that we have to disable vibrate when using a BT headset. Drives me nuts actually.
When I went through and discovered this (haven't seen reference to the issue anywhere in my searches), I had tested with something like 3 different headsets and two 8125's.. Was able to duplicate it every time once I figured out what the cause was.. Very very strange..
I just hope that HTC can do something with this issue on these phones..

Wish I had found this thread a couple of weeks ago. I went through 3 Plantronics 510 headsets and two Cingular 8125 before making the discovery that the problem was tied to the vibrate ringer setting.
One thing I've done--since I'd still like the vibrate feature--is you can set the ringer to "vibrate then ring". I just have to make sure I don't pick up while the handset is vibrating--which isn't too hard since that usually is just the first caller's ring.
Another think I found when troubleshooting: if I put my handset in another room and pick up incoming calls everything is fine. Seems like the vibration needs to be in proximity to the headset for this problem to occur.

hmm i just got my bt headset and was told of the static...
thanks for the info guys will deff turn of the vibration to see if that prevents the static when answering a call

Voice Command

Anyone here use VC1.6 with Bluetooth?
Has anyone else noticed that the confirmations don't work?
I've seen threads on other forums about this, but no solution yet over there.
Figured I'd bring it up in case folks here have the answers.
Basically, here's my conversation:
Press BT button
Device: *Beep*
Me: "Call John"
Device: "Call John?"
Me: "Yes"
Device: *Timemout Beep*
Now, the confirmation works when used on the device just fine.
When on the headset, its like it gives up without trying to hear me.

MS Voice Command v 1.6 works almost perfectly on my Sprint Mogul. It has one flaw - when the button you map is first pushed it does not give off the beep, but the small microphone on the top bar shows up. When the little mike shows up, you can say your commands and it works perfectly.
The next time the button is pushed, the beep is heard and the mike shows up.
Also, VC is activated by my Motorola S9 stereo BT headset. If I push the right button on the headset, I hear the beep and can give the command into my headset even if the headset is in my backpack.
The failure to beep on the first button push is a small problem I'm sure can be worked out. For me it is no problem at all. I just push the button and begin speaking.
I own many other HTC products and VC works as well on the Mogul if not better than any of them and I haven't even hacked it yet.

The problem only shows up when dialing a number from the BT headset and the confirmation is played back. It seems there is a problem with the mic after the confirmation is played so you can't reply "yes" or clarify. It works fine for opening programs or if the confirmation is turned off and you are lucky enough for it to hear you correctly

ImCoKeMaN said:
The problem only shows up when dialing a number from the BT headset and the confirmation is played back. It seems there is a problem with the mic after the confirmation is played so you can't reply "yes" or clarify. It works fine for opening programs or if the confirmation is turned off and you are lucky enough for it to hear you correctly
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Yeah, this makes browsing media impossible!
I used to say "Play music" wait until it asks me what type to sort by "Artist"... wait again "Dream Theater"... and then the music would start.
Now, I can't get past the first prompt because the mic is shut off. Very weird indeed...

Voice Command 1.6
One thing that I've noticed with my S9 and 1.6 (wm6 but had similar issues in wm5) is that VC gets confused by the stereo headset, announcements will generally shut off the headset for a moment and come out of the phone speaker, if I hit the button on the headset, I will get the VC beep in the headset, but it seems to be listening to the mic on the phone, and if I hit the phone's activation button, the beep comes through the phone, but it then seems to be listening to the headset for commands. I've found no reliable way to 'straighten' this out, however, I did notice the other day when I reset my phone and used the 'play' button on the headset to reinitiate the phone/headset connection rather than initiating it automatically when I turned on the headset that it seemed to be functioning normally for the first time in a long time. I've not tried to reproduce that yet, but will try it tonight.

Traumtanzer said:
One thing that I've noticed with my S9 and 1.6 (wm6 but had similar issues in wm5) is that VC gets confused by the stereo headset, announcements will generally shut off the headset for a moment and come out of the phone speaker, if I hit the button on the headset, I will get the VC beep in the headset, but it seems to be listening to the mic on the phone, and if I hit the phone's activation button, the beep comes through the phone, but it then seems to be listening to the headset for commands. I've found no reliable way to 'straighten' this out, however, I did notice the other day when I reset my phone and used the 'play' button on the headset to reinitiate the phone/headset connection rather than initiating it automatically when I turned on the headset that it seemed to be functioning normally for the first time in a long time. I've not tried to reproduce that yet, but will try it tonight.
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Scratch that, I wasn't able to duplicate this, so seems to be a random occurrence, I know that every once in a while it does seem to work correctly, but that's very rarely.

List of Voice Commands
Has anyone got a list of voice commands, and is there any way to add new commands?

My VC 1.6 bluetooth problem is even more frustrating. It always recognizes my contacts, but the confirmation doesn't work AND I CAN'T DISABLE IT!
I uncheck the confirm box on the VC settings, but it still tries to confirm.
Is there something I'm missing?

Sprint does it again
WM6 has voice command built-in, but Sprint decided to disable it and not make it part of the ROM, so when you install 1.6 over the already there application, is when you lose part of the functionality.

Ha! I found my voice command problem -- I had a duplicate contact.
What voice command said (even after I turned off confirmation) was "Joe Blough at Home 3 found" and then it displayed one of them. When I removed the duplicate and turned off confirmation -- IT WORKED!
Now, if they would just fix the confirmation to work properly...

Ok.....my problem is it will not announce incoming calls, no matter what i do...everything else seems to work fine, but it will not announce incoming calls threw the bluetooth nor speaker, am i missing something???

Bottom line: Voice Command 1.6 is buggy, and needs to be updated to work 100% with WM6. Start complaining to Micro$oft.

TC1 said:
Bottom line: Voice Command 1.6 is buggy, and needs to be updated to work 100% with WM6. Start complaining to Micro$oft.
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It's not buggy at all, it wasn't made for use on WM6, it's for WM5, we're lucky it works as well as it does.
You can bet MS is already working on a new version, question is when will it be released.

Is there an echo in here? What part of "needs to be updated to work 100% with WM6" didn't you understand?

I was saying it isn't buggy as you said, it works great for the OS it is intended to be used on.

Funny enough, VC works great for me... The only issue I have is sometimes it does not play the first tone when I press the VC button...

Shaska said:
Funny enough, VC works great for me... The only issue I have is sometimes it does not play the first tone when I press the VC button...
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It works fine if not using bluetooth. (aside from the missing first tone sometimes)

Dishe said:
It works fine if not using bluetooth. (aside from the missing first tone sometimes)
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And also doesn't always confirm commands. At least from my experience.

primenall said:
It's not buggy at all, it wasn't made for use on WM6, it's for WM5, we're lucky it works as well as it does.
You can bet MS is already working on a new version, question is when will it be released.
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I have the Alltel 6800 with WM5 and am experiencing the same problems as you WM6 folks.

It seems to be an issue with the Mogul/MSVC combo like you said, also a friend of mine put the WM6 Rom on his 6700 and he says MSVC confirmation works fine.
Maybe a Radio incompatability, I'm just a novice though?

Bluetooth settings for handsfree - without incoming call delay

Hey folks,
I've been struggling with this issue for months now and couldn't find a solution yet. Had the same problem with my Polaris before.
When using BT Handsfree profile, either with my Jabra 250 headset or with my built in car handsfree (Parrot) I get a more or less big delay after accepting a call until the audio stream is transferred from my phone to the BT device.
Meaning, accepting the call in the car results in like 5 seconds delay until I can actually hear what the person on the other end is saying. Until then the voice is still routed via the phones builtin speaker, as if no BT device would be connected.
Same happens with my Jabra headset, though the delay is less there. Maybe 2-3 seconds sometimes.
I tried playing around with Shaps Advanced Config or HD Tweak Bluetooth settings, but no luck so far :-(
Could anyone who is using BT handsfree devices, especially car kits, tell me if you get your audio on your BT device right away, without delay on your BT device? If yes, please tell me exactly what settings you are using for your BT on the phone, e.g. Bitpool min/max, Audio Gateway on/off, Joint Stereo Yes/No etc.
Please let me know if ya using S2U2 as well, I think this could add up to the problem, though for me I still have the issues when I disable S2U2
thanks,
boba

i am using a Bury comfort BT and it rings 2-3 seconds b e f o r e my phone rings! i did not tweaked any settings in my HD. i am not using s2u2.

I also have a Parrot in car hands-free system. Have to say, whilst there are and have been some 'issues' (from time to time) a long delay when an incoming call is accepted isn't one I get.
I don't have the 2 programs you mentioned, as I'd not heard of them before - so I'm running my HD (as far as BT goes at least) in stock trim - FYI I have the auto-answer selected (in 'Settings>Phone>More') set to talk after 4 rings, as a personal pref.
I do have issues with the BT on these phones - I think it's a WinMo thing though, as it's been the same on all the WinMo phones I've had - the BT is pretty retarded unfortunately and it's the one major gripe I have with it and ultimately 'put up with' (very begrudgingly, as it's a feature I use a lot)
Issues are;
Occasionally the phone will answer instead of the car kit (if it's in my pocket - although I may have solved that by having pocketshield 'slide to answer' on there now)
It will NOT auto-answer at all on my BT stereo headphones NOR [more annoyingly] my Scala-Rider motorcycle helmet kit (where every other 'normal' phone I have had has done so with no issues at all)
Every now and again it will freeze the car-kit by showing that there is an active call, when there isn't - and the only way out of it is a soft reset of the HD itself
I only wish there was a fix/tweak for the BT in WinMo - but it seems that most programmers don't see this as a priority area and as such it's not been resolved - maybe 6.5 will address it...but I'm not holding my breath!

Hello, same problem with my Motorola bt350, with and without s2u2.
Same with stock ROM or with dutty's ROM and other.
Its a known win 6.1 BT stack issue.
Regards
T

@ boba23
If you find a fix for that issue please tell me!!! its so annoying
T

Same issues here. Anyone find a fix.

thought it was mine in car blue tooth that has this problem...good (or bad?) to know that it's not an isolated incident.

same issue...
I have parrot MK9000 and HTC BH S100 (stereo). The delay is the same. I do not think there is going to be a solution.

Ι have the transfer delay BT issue here too.... the others person voice is going out from the phone for 2-5 sec and suddenly its transferred to BT heasedet.
Preety annoying, it happens to all my ΒΤ headssets (Jabra , Samsung) the dead seconds just varies.
Plz guys anyone who has solved this let me know

boba23 said:
Bumping this thread up again, since I am still facing the delay issue. I am pretty sure it's not ROM related, since I had this issue with all 6.1 roms I tried. Right now using Topix 2.7.
Played around with Advanced Config BT settings again, but I still have that incoming call delay with my Jabbra BT250. Mostly takes 3-4 seconds, after accepting an incoming call till I hear sound on my headset. I really can't believe that this is an issue that only a few ppl are facing. I have nothing spectacular installed, even disabled S2U2 to see if that helps, but nothing :-(
boba
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I think this has to do with a combination hands-free / rom version. I have a built in car kit and if I accept the call with phone answer I get the voice right away on the car kit. If I accept it on the radio, it will take 2-4 seconds before sound is transferred to car kit.
I've made another test on a parrot car kit, with same ROM version as before, and it behavior was diferent. If I accept the call on the car kit button, the sound is transferred immediately to the car, if I accept the call on phone button, I get instant sound, but on the phone - private mode....
I made also this test with a plantronics headset, and the sound is transferred right away to the headset either I accept the call on the headset or the phone
so
I am using topix 2.9.4 6.1 rom version - but already tested with several 6.1 roms and 6.5 - behavior is more or less the same

boba23 said:
Bumping this thread up again, since I am still facing the delay issue. I am pretty sure it's not ROM related, since I had this issue with all 6.1 roms I tried. Right now using Topix 2.7.
Played around with Advanced Config BT settings again, but I still have that incoming call delay with my Jabbra BT250. Mostly takes 3-4 seconds, after accepting an incoming call till I hear sound on my headset. I really can't believe that this is an issue that only a few ppl are facing. I have nothing spectacular installed, even disabled S2U2 to see if that helps, but nothing :-(
boba
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Hi Boba, you're not alone I use BT sometimes as a backup.. and I too have an annoying delay of several seconds... at that very moment I think "hey where's the incoming call", I then hear the sound from the normal phone speaker, and when I switch to the normal phone again the sound is passed to BT ....

Bluetooth Incoming Call Delay
Has anyone come across a solution for this yet?
I have always had a 1-2 second delay in being able to hear the caller using my BT250 headset but, after installing the Orange update ROM, the delay seems to have increased to 3-4 seconds. The caller can hear straight away though.
I have just purchased a BT2020 headset and the delay is still 3-4 seconds.
I am not confident in installing different ROMs (because of my limited knowledge) but would install any that will eradicte this really annoying delay. Any suggestions?

alanu said:
Has anyone come across a solution for this yet?
I have always had a 1-2 second delay in being able to hear the caller using my BT250 headset but, after installing the Orange update ROM, the delay seems to have increased to 3-4 seconds. The caller can hear straight away though.
I have just purchased a BT2020 headset and the delay is still 3-4 seconds.
I am not confident in installing different ROMs (because of my limited knowledge) but would install any that will eradicte this really annoying delay. Any suggestions?
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Just spoke with Orange Technical Helpdesk and they are sending me a new handset.......will publish result.