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Force autosync to use Wifi instead of GPRS?

Hi,
I would like to have autosync sync automatically as items arrive, but only when a wifi connection is present, it should not use GPRS.
I have searched the forum and faq and found some answers, but nothing worked for me so far:
I followed the instructions in the FAQ, my GPRS settings are under "My ISP" now and so on, as described in http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_FAQs
(I did turn off wifi and the phone and on again, but to no avail)
Still, Autosync uses GPRS, although a wifi connection is there.
I read this thread as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291093
and tried the program "NoGPRS": http://www.benrichards.co.uk/?p=180
but that didn't solve my problem either. While there won't be a GPRS connection enabled now (since I disabled it with NoGPRS), Autosync now complains that "Your current sync schedule requires a cellular data connection...". Although Wifi is enabled, Autosync wants to use GPRS.
Any help? Any ideas what else I could check?
Thanks in advance....

Push Email doesn't work over wifi as far as I know, hence the device asking for a cellular connection.

just an idea
AFAIK. I read that Direct Push doesn't work on WiFi - 3G/GPRS only.
So my advise is easy - try to disable direct push: go to "Active sync", then into "Schedule" and adjust "Sync during peak/off-peak hours" setting from "As items arrive" to "Every X minutes" ("Every 5 min"/"Every 30 min" etc.).
I hope it will help.

ok
Thanks, that explains it..
I configured for syncing every 10 minutes now and that is working.
Thanks for your help!

Automatic send/receive with WiFi only, not GPRS?

Isn't it possible to set up the phone to ONLY do the automatic send/receive of mail at an interval when there is a WiFi connection available?
I want to keep the option of being able to use GPRS for sending/receiving, but only when I manually choose to do so. I don't want to automatically pay for GPRS data tranfers every x minutes!
I have TyTN WM6.
Regards,
Allan Jensen

Might be. If you use MoDaCo's NoData you can shut off the grps data.
Set the wifi on.
Every time you put the phone out of standby it should check it. I have a feeling if it was a scheduled update that wouldn't work to well.
Unfortunately the wm software is designed to use the grps as the primary data, as wifi shuts off when in standby... could get tricky...
Perhaps this can get you started in the right direction.
BTW, what carrier are you on? Do you have an unlimited data package?

a little trick a Tech Support guy at Rogers taught me is to delete the password and uncheck the SAVE PASSWORD in the gprs settings....
this way I know when its trying to connect to the internet or not,
Up here in Canada Rogers realllllly takes you over the barell for data rates.
I currently have a plan that gives me a WHOPPING 5 megs a month
this privilege costs me $20 a month... and oh yea if I go over 5meg a month its $0.05 a KB. Thanks Rogers!
Jerks
-theMopie

rk-OSR
Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316696&highlight=automatic+sync
You can set the connection to be wi-fi only.
You can set time when to automatically send and receive mails.
I am using this with my touch, tytn (WM6) and Universal (WM6).

Ending a Data connection

Is there a way to end a data connection. I have an unlimited bell plan, however I am leaving for vacation and roaming.
I noticed that when I try ending my data connection is comes back on immediately. I'm worried about accumulating roaming data charges while the data connection is on and I am not using it.
I would like to check my email from time to time however leaving it on 24/7 while on vacation is a waste.
Any suggestions as to why this is continuously on? Any programs I can uninstalll? I have my email send/receive schedule for every 2 hrs.
Thanks in advance

This should take care of your roaming worries.
Start/Settings/Personal/Phone..
Go to "Services" tab.
"Get Settings" for "Network Service".
Make sure "Data Roam Guard" is set to "Always Ask".
Just turn off the auto check of email and check it manually if your worried about the data connection. If the data still restarts then maybe weather? Google maps? Live search?

anyone on O2 and using push email (exchange)?

I'm hoping that there are more peple than just me using the HD on O2 with push email via exchange.
If your set up is anything like mine then you will have two data connections.
O2 Active and Mobile Web.
I posted a few days ago about having problems sending MMS messages, which seems to be down to having both data connections active. I've always set my connetions (both of them) to 'always on' using schapps advanced config. I have found that this means my push email works flawlessly and I can access the web straight way as it's always connected.
The downside of course is that I can't send MMS (although strangley...sometimes it does work). So, in order to test, I have set the connections to 'enabled'. Doing this meant that I was able to send a test mms this morning, which failed 2 minutes earlier when both connections were set to 'always on'. this is a pain because you have to reset the phone after each change of connection status.
With my connections set to 'enabled', theoretically this would mean that the connections are only made whenever they are needed.
This means perhaps a slight delay when first using the web, as my phone has to connect to the web first.
My question, is that if the connection is only established when required, and then disconnects again. How is it going to know I have email waiting for me? How will it get pushed to my phone?
So, can anyone else who has the same setup, please let me know how they have set their connections up.
appreciate your help.

Exchange emails in standby

I have a new AT&T Pure with an exchange email address set up to receive emails as they arrive. If the phone is not in standby mode the emails come in without a problem at the same time I receive them in Outlook. Once the phone is in standby mode (screen turns off) emails come in sporadically or not at all until I wake the phone up. If I just set it to dim and not turn screen off I am fine. Is anyone else having this issue?

I've found ActiveSync on my Touch Diamond2 very unreliable. It will work for a while but repllog.exe crashes at some point, usually overnight. Only fix is to restart the phone or manually kill the task - it's often doesn't respond to shutdown (indicating it's crashed) and has to be manually ended. Doing a sync immediately always works.
I'm hoping that they've fix this bug in WM 6.5...
Cheers, Rob.

This is a brand new phone with WM 6.5. Everything works finew when phone is not in standby. Once in standby emails don't come in when they should.

dwg44 said:
This is a brand new phone with WM 6.5. Everything works finew when phone is not in standby. Once in standby emails don't come in when they should.
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You mean by standby, not cable/activesync attached?
I'm still wondering about gmail push, I set everything up as said, but when I'm cabled to my work computer, I don't get gmail.
I have to disconnect and then get gmail push. **sigh**

Ahh, isn't that a setting on ActiveSync? Something about allowing internet connection when docked. I think when a WM is connected via ActiveSync, the internet connection goes through your PC which sometimes is blocked.

munrobasher said:
Ahh, isn't that a setting on ActiveSync? Something about allowing internet connection when docked. I think when a WM is connected via ActiveSync, the internet connection goes through your PC which sometimes is blocked.
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No, I unchecked that, same result, even after powering off/on. I think that option is misleading

some thoughts and my experience...
Do you expect emails to arrive over wifi, or gprs, The behavior is different by design.
As they arrive, in schedule settings for example only works as most people expected over gprs.( this is also called microsoft direct push) and can be toggled on/off in settings tab on most htc phones.
this also requires a constant open data connection over gprs. the phone will try to open it for you if you enable direct push option.
its also important that the carrier supports long http requests over grps for direct push to work correctly.(this is why gprs need to be open all the time)
if you deactivate the gprs-data connection, direct push will fail until it succeds a long http to the eas server again.(exchange active sync)
when i use direct push option over gprs, emails always arrive instantly (within a few sec.) to my phone regardless of standby or awake. 98% of the time anyway...
Now i have set mine to sync over wifi. however not pushed to my phone as it only works over gprs.i usually set schedule to 5 min.
if set direct push/as arrive over wifi the schedule seems to change depending on how often emails arrive. the polls seemes to be longer and longer apart if mailbox is idle. schedule a bit unclear...
i figured this out by setting a constant ping from pc to the phone and watched the response in standby mode.( wifi not set to always on even in standby) so i got response time out most of the time.
i noticed that after a certain time the phone began to respond to ping for a few seconds( active sync activated wifi in standby to check email according to my setting in schedule and then deactivated it).
if i had unread emails in my exchange mailbox they arrived in the phone as well.
i also read a paper where the direct push schedule where explained by microsoft. it is constructed that way to save as much bandwidh as possible,
i have based this on my observations only.
it would be nice if someone could find a technical paper explaining this further.
tests was done on htc p3600 and stock topaz. wm 6.1
i will do tests again on the 6.5 rom as they come online.
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Phone is not docked nor am I connected with wifi. Just a GPRS connection. What I mean by standby is that I have the setting enabled to turn off screen after 1 minute.

I have no problem with push email from my exchange server. Remember Push email only works with cell data connection as pointed out. And if you establish ActiveSync connection with a desktop PC, it will be auto-disable and changed to polling instead regardless if you keep the data connection open or not.

I have never connected this phone to a PC.

exchange active sync and wifi
i previously had a TYTNii (Kaiser) which would exchange sync through my home and office wifi (over GPRS) when wifi was available and connected.... However on my Topaz i am unable to exchange sync through wifi when connected for some reason. it will only work through phone connection with wifi off. It appears there are additional connection settings with this WM6.1 device... (priority settings for one connection type over another) but im not sure how to set this up... Help on getting exchange sync working via wifi would be appreciated thanks..