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I wonder if there's any software to operate PocketPC as USB Stick available (like for Palm Tungsten T5 - Drive Mode)? So basically I would like to use PocketPC drives just as a USB Stick (without Activesync of course)
Thanks,
Georg
this cannot be done in software.
let me rehash this topic
Can anyone here kindly explain me why it aint possible to use PPC as USB MassStorageDevice? I know you need USB Host Controller chip to handle that stuff in hardware. Why cant we emulate its function in software? In the end its only sending signals to the pc?
How does the device upgrade process work then? you also have to transfer data to ppc rom here.
I know that it wont be easy to give a simple explanation, could anyone try it anyway?
thank you for your help!
regards,
Quappo
i think it would be possible to do in software
if it cant then it's because that it's hardcoded in the pda that when it interduce itself to the pc as a plug'n'play device it does so as a pda
if that cant be changed then you cant do it
I've found some interesting SW tools:
here: http://www.softick.com/pocket-pc/cardexport2/#compatibility
and here : http://www.deje.gmxhome.de/download.html
You mast pay for the first one :?
but the second (if you like) it's free !
Have a look !!
Carlo said:
I've found some interesting SW tools:
here: ...
and here : http://www.deje.gmxhome.de/download.html
... the second (if you like) it's free !
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You were misleaded. The named tool can be used on PDAs having USB host functionality to connect other hard drives. It won't let your PDA be recognized as a USB stick.
Yes - in general case you can do it.
It is possible to write software which allow to represent PPC with USB end-point hardware as USB Mass Storage device.
Question is - how?
It seems device will need to supply correct descriptors at USB enumeration process and device will have to correctly process appropriate comands from host device (PC or something else)
again - how?
It seems someone will need to write low level software to manage USB endpoint hardware in PPC. it may look like kernel mode driver.
What to need? - doc for USB endpoint device and ability to write driver to manage this hardware.
It isn't difficult - but every PPC will need own device driver.
Or if the USB dev has some interface to supply descriptors and process commands from host (internal - inside system, or app level) - it can be done at some level of abstraction.
Resume
- it is possible
- need to know details about device and USB interface in this PPC.
ryhor - soft stick export does it perfectly. Either use that, or reverse engineer it...
Very useful for non activesynced pcs: keep a copy of activesync install on your SD card, use softstick, install activesync from PPC "usb drive", then switch over to activesync and sync away.
V
vijay555 said:
ryhor - soft stick export does it perfectly. Either use that, or reverse engineer it...
Very useful for non activesynced pcs: keep a copy of activesync install on your SD card, use softstick, install activesync from PPC "usb drive", then switch over to activesync and sync away.
V
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This seems very interesting. Can you tell me how the PPC shows on the Windows PC desktop? It has mostly two drives then, a possible SD card included.
Can you change the drive letter via local disk management?
Happen to know if it would work on Jasjar?
Huib
I've no idea how it works on WM5, you'll have to check their site: either way, I'm sure they're working on it.
How it works: you get a little icon in your tray (on Today screen). From there you can choose either to activesync or USB Drive when you connect your usb lead. You can choose which drive to use as a usb drive, ie storage or storage card. Only one at a time though.
Then, stick in your usb lead, and after a few seconds of recognising new hardware, it'll recognise the phone as a standard USB drive, ie a normal drive. I believe the drive letter can be changed in drive management.
I don't think it needs any drivers on >WinXP.
V
vijay555 said:
I've no idea how it works on WM5, you'll have to check their site: either way, I'm sure they're working on it.
How it works: you get a little icon in your tray (on Today screen). From there you can choose either to activesync or USB Drive when you connect your usb lead. You can choose which drive to use as a usb drive, ie storage or storage card. Only one at a time though.
Then, stick in your usb lead, and after a few seconds of recognising new hardware, it'll recognise the phone as a standard USB drive, ie a normal drive. I believe the drive letter can be changed in drive management.
I don't think it needs any drivers on >WinXP.
V
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Thanks, I will defenitely buy this stuff when they make a Universal Version.
Huib
if it works on wm2005 then it works on universal too
I've read somwhere that Windows Mobile 5 has built-in support for actiing ass a usb mass storage device.
Is this true?
How do I activate it, when connecting to a computer (win xp, win2003, OS X.3)the device gets listed as GENEREIC RNDIS.
Qtek 9100
Windows mobile 5 (norwegian)
Kingston 1GB miniSD card
You can always try Softick Card Export if you don't succeed.
Cheers, M
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You can always try Softick Card Export if you don't succeed.
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Last time i checked, unfortuantely CE wasn't compatible with windows mobile 5.
Andreas
Sorry,
Try writing an e-mail to the developer, like des did. Maybe it helps.
Regards, M
WM 5.0 as USD Device
What a dream, how nice if WM 5 did support USB devices or memory readers, transfer files from Camera etc without removing cards.
I havce seen 3rd party freeware downloads that allow a pocket pc , magician/universal to act a usb drive from a PC.
Not sure if thats what you mean. Easier than having to go through activesync.
Wish my pda supported usb 2 go for backups.
CE2 is such a product, although not free & the only one I know off. If you found another one & post it you make a lot of people happy.
Regards, M
You're talking about using the Wizard as a mass storage device, rather than using mass storage devices on the client, aren't you?
The Zaurus range can do this, all you need to do is tell the device to act as mass storage. How you enable it on the wizard is beyond my knowledge, but I guess you'll need to either poke in the registry or use some switching software.
It'd be neat if you can do this!
Whats wrong with using Explore under Active sync... or even a short cut to it... I do.
Terran
You need active sync installed and that is not available for OS X or Windows Server 2003 without SP1
Result I can't connect to my computer at work, or my laptop at home.
Only computer willing to sync is my old winxp box which is downgraded from home computer to file and webserver.
Andreas
Don't know what the wizard speeds are, on a magician it's too [email protected] slow!
I also read that it should be possible to use the mda compact II as a mass storage device, without any extra software. But I didn't find the option now...
MAybe they will add it in a later rom-version (I hope so..)
But honestly I don't think they will do this, so we have to hope that
softtick will program it for use
Regards,
km
with the Eten M500 it was possible to use it as a USB host, so connecting eg your USB cable from your digital camera directly to your pocket PC. But now, with the new Eten M600 this nice functionality has been lost...
So I think this was a specific device functionality, which was made by Eten for the M500, but I doubt it is a standard WM 5 functionality...
CIAO!
VOODOOS!L
I have managed to network my wizard and my powerbook using the wifi connection quite sucessfully. I can log into my account and access the harddrive volumes. Still can't sink with contacts though.
Steve
I've bought today a Qtek S200.
IPL/SPL: 2.09.0000
GSM: 2.07.20
OS: 2.9.7.28
The first I did was a Hard Reset to the Qtek S200 and then...
Because of the problems with some application and antivirus I did a complete format to my computer. I just installed WinXP PRO SP2, all the updates from Microsoft Update, .Net Framework 3, Outlook 2002 and ActiveSync 4.1 (both came in the CD from Qtek). (I have also disabled Windows Firewall).
Then I think, I've done all the steps right (I think):
1) I connected the USB cable to de PC
2) I tried to plug the USB cable to the Qtek S200 when te PPC was OFF and nothing happened. Then with the Qtek S200 ON (in today's screen) I plug the other side of the USB cable and ActiveSync does not recognize my S200.
I dunno what to do to make ActiveSync syncronize with my Qtek S200, could you please help me???? I've been trying to syncronize for more then 6 hours (doing all the stuff...)
THNX,
Annita
Try this:
remove your activesync (de-install the software)
reboot your pc
turn on your qtek without the usb cable attached
plugin your qtek on the usb cable.
Does you pc find the device ?? (ding dong sound)
yes ? good, your pc finds it.
take out the usb again
install activesync 4.2
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/activesync/activesync42.mspx
try again, and see if it works.
My PC does nothing when I connect the S200...
Annita
If the USB cable connection does not work, it is possible to update ROM via Bluetooth ActiveSync syncronization????
THNX,
Annita
Annita said:
If the USB cable connection does not work, it is possible to update ROM via Bluetooth ActiveSync syncronization????
THNX,
Annita
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It might work, however I would first look into why you usb doesn't work
when you plugin the usb cable, do you see the phone charge ? (led ontop change to orange) you might have a bad cable or you pc has a problem with the usb port (have your tried another usb port ? or removing all usb devices and only using the phone cable ?)
Yes to all.
When I connect the USB cable, the Qtek begins to charge the battery, and the orange led flicks.
I have tried on my PC and on my Laptop and didn't work in any of both.
I have tried with only he USB phone cable and did not work either.
Anyone has tried to update ROM via Bluetooth???
THNX,
Annita
Annita, make sure you have DHCP turned on on your PC. The virtual USB NIC should come up as 169.254.2.2, I believe. I was never able to get it to work without using DHCP on the PC side.
What is the virtual USB NIC????
Annita
When you plug in the USB cable, the PC creates a "fake" network adapter for the PPC and adds that to your list of network connections.
Just make sure DHCP service is started. Right-click My Computer -> Manage -> Services and Applications -> Services -> DHCP Client.
OK, the service was and is ON.
The thing is that I can syncronize via Bluetooth, but not with the USB cable (and I have the original cable and another mini-USB cable).
Annita
Bluetooth Activesync Sycronization will not work b'coz while upgrading, the phone resets itself, N it powers on in the upgrade process therefore, bluetooth of the phone will not be available then.
So, I dont its possible 2upgrade via bluetooth Activesync.
OK, thnx.
Annita
anita and the usb
anita, go to start setting control pannel, go to phones and modems and see the modems are installed there. windows (sh***t) store all the garbadge possible. can be that it identfy usb device like usb modem and put it on com 1 not that active sync works auto on com1. so check connection settings on activesync. + which use port you use? fron pannel or the rear of the PC?
is that a laptop if yes what model.
i'll try to help as much as i can
xman
ok, i have the same problem as you do, or at least a similar. i cant get my sync to work...
active sync 4.2
active sync says "critical communication error, try restarting your device", the active sync troubleshoot tells me that i dont have a ip adress (the link to microsoft does not work), although i have a network connection that my pc created (169.254.2.2). the active sync even appears in green.
my firewall and the win firewall does not interfere with this. switching off the firewalls does not improve this at all.
does anyone know a solution to this? thanks
I'll try what xmanmaster says, but I'm not at home until sunday...
Thnx,
Annita
Did this problem ever get resolved? I have the same issues, tried a wizard and a hermes. Not detected as a usb device, the charging light comes on. Both phones work on another PC. I have tried uninstalling activesync and rebooting phone/PC in every order I can think of.
UPNP (Universal Plug 'n Play) service is required
Hi all,
please make sure that the UPNP service is running on the desktop.
It's required for device detection as well as synchronisation with the WCE device.
A quite detailed description of all potential problems with ActiveSync can be found at Chris De Herrera's website.
BR,
N.a.D.
Hi All,
I'm sure this has been discussed 50 million times, but I can't find a good lead. I'm trying to sync my wizard to windows vista via bluetooth (it works via usb). I'm running WM6 (a cooked ROM of course), and my computer has all the necessary components for synching. The Windows Mobile Device Center is set to allow incoming bluetooth connections and the phone and computer can see each other. However, Windows Mobile Device Center (wow, it needs a better name) keeps saying not connected. Any ideas? Thank you!
same problem here
I am also struggling to connect/sync in Vista via Bluetooth dongle. I have defined I/O ports but my PPC disconnects as soon as connects/finds the designated port.
any help or comment would be appreciated.
cheers!
samanPDA2K said:
I am also struggling to connect/sync in Vista via Bluetooth dongle. I have defined I/O ports but my PPC disconnects as soon as connects/finds the designated port.
any help or comment would be appreciated.
cheers!
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Since everything is in order, it's worth a try to disable your firewall.
In most cases that solves any probems.
Windows ActivSync is a little troublesome that way.
Hi,
do you know why my HD2 can sync only when plugged with usb cable and not with bluetooth? It has been correctly paired with my Win7 ultimate, but there is an ! on it in the device manger saying that no blueottoth device drivers has been loaded!
thank a lot in advance
M
I also get the device not recognised problem, but that's only for one part of the bluetooth stack - can't remember quite what it's for. Regardless, I am able to pair and use active sync with my 2 Windows 7 machines OK. I do have to use the active sync application on the phone to do it though - I can't just pair the devices then run active sync.
In the device center you have the possibility to setup your connection settings. Go to settings - connection settings - leave USB ticked - in the next connection possibility change bluetooth into com5 or com6 and you're ready to go.
I have kinda the same problem with Win XP and my HD2.
- I successfully paired the PC (Dell D820) and the Leo.
- I can successfully exchange files from the PC to the HD2 via bluetooth - but not the other way round (Leo says the PC does not support this ).
- I can successfully sync the Leo to the PC via USB cable.
- When I try to sync via bluetooth, HD2 says that the PC "does not offer any service that can be used with ActiveSync".
- Leo has incoming Bluetooth port set at COM1.
- XP has Bluetooth ports set at COM1 (incoming) and COM3 (outgoing).
Anyone out there has a clue?
Thanks.
I had to set com7 to make it work
I simply leave WMDC set to use "Bluetooth" and it works fine. Check that, then on the phone select the pc, in the BT manager, menu-> update, it should rediscover activesync and list activesync.
Hi,
I am facing the very same problem, please help...
Same problem here with Windows XP. Pairing is ok, discovering Activesync service fail. I never had this with my previous PDA.
kilrah said:
I simply leave WMDC set to use "Bluetooth" and it works fine.
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WMDC?? On WinXP? Was that a typo or am I missing something?
vince2773 said:
am I missing something?
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Probably that the original discussion was about Win7, so I assumed the rest was about it too
I didn't see your particular case was under XP, sorry.
But still, same went for XP, except replacing "WMDC" by "Activesync", and select the outgoing COM port your PC has assigned to the HD2 instead of "Bluetooth". NOT the one your HD2 shows as incoming.
Thanks for the clarification Kilrah (I didn't mean to be rude, I was just in a hurry).
Anyway, I tried as you said (which I had already done, but tried again just in case). No success with Bluetooth sync.
Guess I'll stick to the USB cable and wait till June when my new laptop comes in with Win7 and try again.
Too bad though. Bluetooth sync worked like a charm with my old Nokia. So far, this is the only major disappointment in 2 months with my HD2. Maybe it's because ActiveSync itself is a crappy app?