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Skype on Prophet (818 Pro)

Does any try this?
The official Skype said it require min 312MHz CPU to run it.
Just wanna see is the performance on or not.

kowin said:
Does any try this?
The official Skype said it require min 312MHz CPU to run it.
Just wanna see is the performance on or not.
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I overclocked my Dopod 818 pro to 276 Mhz and Skype works like magic without hassles
Cheers!

don't overclock for too long. The most feasible setting that is observed is 240MHz. Your battery wont die on your all at once and skype (low CPU) will work perfect

Be careful not to fry its motherboard!

Prophet and Skype
The only way to use skype on the prophet is too overclock...I have had success at above 216mhz
Recently I attempted Skype (at 228mhz) on the local GPRS/EGDE network ...I was able to dial/connect and receive the voice from the person I called but they were unable to hear my voice.
Anyone get Skype fully functional on a high speed network?

Prophet and Skype
The only way to use skype on the prophet is too overclock...I have had success at above 216mhz
Recently I attempted Skype (at 228mhz) on the local GPRS/EGDE network ...I was able to dial/connect and receive the voice from the person I called but they were unable to hear my voice.
Anyone get Skype fully functional on a high speed network?

kowin said:
Does any try this?
The official Skype said it require min 312MHz CPU to run it.
Just wanna see is the performance on or not.
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is ok, I'm using now..I'm not turnup CPU is ok!!

kowin said:
Does any try this?
The official Skype said it require min 312MHz CPU to run it.
Just wanna see is the performance on or not.
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is ok, I'm using now..I'm not turnup CPU is ok!!

Skype rear speaker / headset
Has anyone figured out how to use skype 2.0 Low CPU with a BT headset, or at least via the regular telephone speaker?
Tom

use Skype Low CPU or HighCPU for Prophet?
hi guys,
WHich Skype version is recommended?
I tried the Low-CPU version since its meant for 312MHz PPC versions
But...I can barely hear the other party. The voice seems badly distorted.
I then switched to the High-CPU version and I can hear the other part lt least.
Anyone had similar experience as above?
Cheers
FY

gunggu said:
kowin said:
Does any try this?
The official Skype said it require min 312MHz CPU to run it.
Just wanna see is the performance on or not.
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I overclocked my Dopod 818 pro to 276 Mhz and Skype works like magic without hassles
Cheers!
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This is so amazing....I can only overclock mine to the max of 263MHz anything more it will go bonkers Immediately.
How u manage to push it to 276MHz....any pointers?
Cheers
FY

I was able to get the original Skype that came with my Jamin working. The program is installed on a Sandisk 2gb Ultra SD card and I overclocked the processor to 240mhz.
What is more interesting than Skype is a service called SIPDiscount http://www.sipdiscount.com/en/index.html . Go to that site and sign up for 10 euros, or you can use it free for 1 minute at a time to test it.
You can run the SIP service on a program called SJPhone for PPC http://www.sjlabs.com/sjp.html download the 2003SE version for pocket pc. They work great together and you can even call out to a US land line for free! No overclocking is neccessary because it is much lighter than Skype.
I've attached a text file that explains how to set up SJPhone to work with SIPDiscount. These directions work for the normal PC computer version of SJPhone also.
Have fun :lol:
P.S. You should always use a good headset with microphone for the best sound quality, without a headset there is usually an echo.

on my JAMin with SKYPE 2.00 Higher CPU one, the other person's sound comes out of the SPEAKER PHONE, is that normal or can I somehow switch to regular earpiece

I have a JAMin overclocked to 240, using Skype latest version low cpu, and over Wifi I have a decent, usable sound quality. I haven't tried it over Gprs/Edge.

Re: use Skype Low CPU or HighCPU for Prophet?
I was using Low-CPU (312MHz) version, I can hardly hear other party also. I will try to over-clock and see if it works or not. Or should we use High CPU version? Can anybody provide us the correct version and procedures in a more systematic way?
fychan said:
hi guys,
WHich Skype version is recommended?
I tried the Low-CPU version since its meant for 312MHz PPC versions
But...I can barely hear the other party. The voice seems badly distorted.
I then switched to the High-CPU version and I can hear the other part lt least.
Anyone had similar experience as above?
Cheers
FY
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I don't overclock my S200, but it's running Skype perfectly. I've downloaded the latest 2.0.0.51 Skype version, installed and started without any problem. I made a voice chat with my friend via Wi-Fi network, he heard me and I heard him clearly.
It's just for people who want to buy Prophet but afraid about Skype not working.

Well, in my Qtek S200 i make a shortcut to overclock the cpu to 240Mhz and run Skype. When i exit skype the cpu clock becames 180Mhz.
I tested in a wifi connection without any problems. With GPRS i haven´t testet yet, but i think GPRS doesn´t have enough upstream to make Skype work properly.
This is my 50 cents!
Regards

GPRS no, Wifi yes
For the people trying Skype over GPRS, read the FAQ before blaming the OMAP processor.
http://support.skype.com/index.php?...base&_j=subcat&_i=12'>Skype+for+Pocket+PC</a>
"Skype for Pocket PC is designed to be used with a WiFi connection. If you are using Skype for Pocket PC with GPRS, you can use instant messaging but the bandwidth does not support calling functionality."
I have no problems with Skype low_cpu over Wifi.

Matterhorn said:
What is more interesting than Skype is a service called SIPDiscount http://www.sipdiscount.com/en/index.html . Go to that site and sign up for 10 euros, or you can use it free for 1 minute at a time to test it.
You can run the SIP service on a program called SJPhone for PPC http://www.sjlabs.com/sjp.html download the 2003SE version for pocket pc. They work great together and you can even call out to a US land line for free! No overclocking is neccessary because it is much lighter than Skype.
I am trying this on a Charmer (MDA Compact II) on T Mobile UK I Have followed all the instructions and it says "No active network interface"
Please Help
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Skype for ARM
Hi Guys
Well, first of all, I don't have the S200 yet, I'll get it today or on tuesday. I did some research before ordering it:
When it comes to Skype, there seems to be a lot confusion about how to run it smoothly. The problem seems to be, that Skype is compiled to run on an Intel Xscale processor. Well, as we all know, the S200 has an TI OMAP processor and that one has an ARM architecture. Search on Google a little bit, and you'll find out the differences. A TI OMAP 200MHz Processor is comparable to an Xscale 400-450MHz Processor only that the OMAP uses less power.
Naturally, ARM has a lower CPU frequency, but the benefit of it is, that it is multitasking. Xscale is a straight-forward processor, ARM does many things in parallel. This difference in architecture causes problems if one runs an Xscale Program on an ARM processor, because the program does not delegate the different tasks to the different units on the ARM, but only forwards them to the main ALU. That one, of course is overwhelmed, while the rest of the Processor doesn't know what to do.
Conclusion: Skype is for Xscale --> does not use the OMAP all the way and with all the available features (Sound ALU, WIFI ALU, ...)
What we need is a Skype that is made for the processor architecture of the S200
Search on Google and you'll find the following:
Skype for ARM
Of course it is an old version, I don't exactly know what has changed with skype, but as far as I know the protocol is still the same, so calling should not be a problem.
Anyways, I think I'll try the new Skype version first, and then the old one and will compare it.
You'll hear back from me, of cours I'll be happy if somebody else could try it as well and tell us what he or she experienced

[news] NEW DOPOD 818 pro rom 2.15.13.24 CHT

It's released on offical web site.
ROM version: 2.15.13.24 CHT
ROM DATE: 3/15/06
RADIO VERSION: 02.17.21
PROTOCOLVERSION: 4.1.13.08
EXTROM VERSION: 2.15.13.104
I dont know how to upload it, can anyone teach me?

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_FTP_Site

Any sign of A2DP in there yet?

Urban Strata said:
Any sign of A2DP in there yet?
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uploaded in upload section.
still no A2DP

Chinese version only
http://www.ppcsg.com/index.php?showtopic=74657

WWE yet isn't ????

ericlin0122 said:
still no A2DP
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GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

bjrmd said:
Chinese version only
http://www.ppcsg.com/index.php?showtopic=74657
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更正:
1. 支援Direct push。
2. 通訊管理員介面更新。
Seems it's just adding support for pushemail and of course updating the Comm Manager interface. Which is great and all...
But has anyone installed this and noticed an end to some of the bugs we had before?

INVAID VENDER ID.... :shock: :shock:
rom:1.0.13.22
01.13.20
4.0.13.24
818 PRO :wink:

thulsey said:
bjrmd said:
Chinese version only
http://www.ppcsg.com/index.php?showtopic=74657
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更正:
1. 支援Direct push。
2. 通訊管理員介面更新。
Seems it's just adding support for pushemail and of course updating the Comm Manager interface. Which is great and all...
But has anyone installed this and noticed an end to some of the bugs we had before?
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Ok- so in answer to my own questions...
Chinese version now has Smart Dialling (no idea why it didn't before, but it does now...) and a nice new Windows Mobile splash screen...
Seems much snappier and more stable already, with no loss of SD card so far and no random reboots (I'll keep my eyes open for that, though...)
A few other cosmetic changes, as well, such as battery meter in the title bar instead of the task bar of the today screen.
Boots much quicker now, too...

i have been using for a few hours.
it's a really good rom compare to JAmin and Qtek (both little bit lag after reset).
I think the English Version will come out soon, keep your eyes open and wait

A2DP
27 said:
ericlin0122 said:
still no A2DP
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GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
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Am I missing something about A2DP? This is for listening MP3s or whatever to your BT headset right? Months ago, I did a reg hack that enabled me to do that. Sometime ago, I installed this tiny prog which allows me to toggle the sound between my device's speaker or the headset. What is the diff betw what I did and A2DP?

ericlin0122 said:
Urban Strata said:
Any sign of A2DP in there yet?
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uploaded in upload section.
still no A2DP
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How come? what i'm really awaiting for new updated ROM
is A2DP supporting. Are there any driver, software or patch that can
make Dopod 818 Pro support A2DP in this world ???

Re: A2DP
Putra said:
27 said:
ericlin0122 said:
still no A2DP
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GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
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Am I missing something about A2DP? This is for listening MP3s or whatever to your BT headset right? Months ago, I did a reg hack that enabled me to do that. Sometime ago, I installed this tiny prog which allows me to toggle the sound between my device's speaker or the headset. What is the diff betw what I did and A2DP?
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Yeah you're right. A2DP supporting will enable us to listening stereo
via our BT headset. But, can u give me for trying of "a reg hack" that
you mentioned or send me your "tiny porg" for me to try. I really need
it very much right now.

I try to update, but now work...
Error Msg :
ERROR [294] : INVALID VENDER ID
My 818pro :
1.0.13.22 CHT
11/29/05
01.13.20
4.0.13.24
1.0.13.104
how can update ? :?

Theerayuth said:
ericlin0122 said:
Urban Strata said:
Any sign of A2DP in there yet?
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uploaded in upload section.
still no A2DP
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How come? what i'm really awaiting for new updated ROM
is A2DP supporting. Are there any driver, software or patch that can
make Dopod 818 Pro support A2DP in this world ???
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Well, there is another approach in this world to make your 818 Pro be able to support the A2DP, it is to install a software called MSI Blueplayer. However, it seems that the program only support MSI bluetooth headset so it only allow my i.Tech S38 to play for 30sec of stereo MP3 audio and the program ended. You can refer to the below message thread for details :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43763&highlight=blueplayer

Well, there is another approach in this world to make your 818 Pro be able to support the A2DP, it is to install a software called MSI Blueplayer. However, it seems that the program only support MSI bluetooth headset so it only allow my i.Tech S38 to play for 30sec of stereo MP3 audio and the program ended. You can refer to the below message thread for details :
Thanks very much for your promptly response.
But, can you tell me where can I get this software
for trying? It can be used 30 secs only? How come?

Theerayuth said:
Well, there is another approach in this world to make your 818 Pro be able to support the A2DP, it is to install a software called MSI Blueplayer. However, it seems that the program only support MSI bluetooth headset so it only allow my i.Tech S38 to play for 30sec of stereo MP3 audio and the program ended. You can refer to the below message thread for details :
Thanks very much for your promptly response.
But, can you tell me where can I get this software
for trying? It can be used 30 secs only? How come?
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i think its hardware problem, you cant really fix it, becasue they want you to buy MSI bluetooth device.

Re: A2DP
Putra said:
Am I missing something about A2DP? This is for listening MP3s or whatever to your BT headset right? Months ago, I did a reg hack that enabled me to do that. Sometime ago, I installed this tiny prog which allows me to toggle the sound between my device's speaker or the headset. What is the diff betw what I did and A2DP?
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Can you listen to music using wireless stereo headsets?

how to use the update program?

Trinity and Pocket Hack Master

I tried PHM on my HTC P3600 (Expansys) and tested all the speeds shown that were available -- they all checked out OK, from 450 down to 250. I then selected a range of five speeds for the autoscale, from my lowest to highest 'favourites' including the lowest and highest.
I find a marked improvement with TCPMP and Skype when I hard-set the 450 speed. However, if I allow the thing to self-scale, it will drop to the lowest speed on idle, and then:
IT MISSES CALLS AND SMS!
Anyone care to share experiences?
As of this time the antontomov.com forum is down so I can't check that for comment.
Thanks!

aZooZa said:
I tried PHM on my HTC P3600 (Expansys) and tested all the speeds shown that were available -- they all checked out OK, from 450 down to 250. I then selected a range of five speeds for the autoscale, from my lowest to highest 'favourites' including the lowest and highest.
I find a marked improvement with TCPMP and Skype when I hard-set the 450 speed. However, if I allow the thing to self-scale, it will drop to the lowest speed on idle, and then:
IT MISSES CALLS AND SMS!
Anyone care to share experiences?
As of this time the antontomov.com forum is down so I can't check that for comment.
Thanks!
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Quick Question!! Does your Bluetooth work if you set the step to 420MHz or faster?

That's one thing I forgot to mention. Turning BT on and off is very hit and miss. Didn't notice if it was at a set speed, but yes, I had problems with BT.

Nobody tried PHM with Trinity?

miss calls
I have the same Problem. My Trinity misses calls & SMS when I set a speed different from 400Mhz.
Does anyone know why this is happening ?

I keep trying Tomov's forum but it's always down. This is very frustrating. The 450Mhz option makes Skype useable but surely this Samsung processor can be clocked higher than 450Mhz? Then maybe my TCPMP .avi movie collection would be without stutter.
Also, I have a question: Once you run PHM and set a CPU speed, does that speed stay current even if you dismiss PHM, or do you have to minimise PHM to keep the CPU settings?
TIA!

Any help here would really be appreciated.

Hi,
I'm using XCPUScalar2007 with auto-scale function and I don't miss calls or sms at all (tried many times in different configurations).
I set the auto-scale as follow:
100Mhz up to 15% of CPU load
300Mhz to 40%
400Mhz to 70%
472Mhz from 71 to 100%.
With XCPUScalar, the highest possible frequency is 500Mhz.
I did not had time to test this settings with a BT headset, but BT activation is ok, and no visible problem with my BT GPS receiver (holux GPSlim 236).

Thanks very much bynico92! I didn't think XCPUScalar was compatible with Samsung - but obviously so! I will give it a go.

Well, I have purchased and installed XCPUScalar and it appears to be working fine, but I have a sneaking suspicion that it doesn't actually do anything.
I say this, because viewing a movie in Core Player (TCPMP) at 100Mhz gives the same viewing experience as with 472Mhz.
Anyone else?

I have tried XCPUScalar, too.
Different settings from 100 to 500 Mhz give the same benchmark results.
IMHO XCPUScalar is not working with the Trinity.

andilein said:
I have tried XCPUScalar, too.
Different settings from 100 to 500 Mhz give the same benchmark results.
IMHO XCPUScalar is not working with the Trinity.
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Thanks for the confirmation! In fact, the Samsung CPU in the Trinity is not listed as supported by XCPUScalar anywhere where that software marketed or promoted. Pocket Hack Master is useless also despite being marketed as 'compatible'.

Anyone using a clock speed app successfully on the Trinity?

Sorry, I don't want to flog this to death but I'll have one more go. Is anyone using a functioning overclock utility on the Trinity?
Thanks!

aZooZa said:
Sorry, I don't want to flog this to death but I'll have one more go. Is anyone using a functioning overclock utility on the Trinity?
Thanks!
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I guess you're not getting any response. As far as I know, people have overclocked the Trinity, but there has always been some bad side effects. Maybe with a new ROM it will work better??

It doens't work for me too. I tried PHM an XCPUScalar. Benchmarks are always the same.

XCPUScalar and trinity

I everybody
Somebody has already used XCPUScalar with the HTC P3600 ?
If it's yes could you give the best speed ?
Thx in advance

It doesn't work. I posted a similar thread a while ago about this. There's no overclocker that works yet that I know of.

thank's for your answer aZooZa

I bought hack master and test it, but no matter speed I set, BT and GSM module all failed, and when I ask the support window, they just said cause when adjust the clock on S3C, the bus speed will change, too....

lanceyou said:
I bought hack master and test it, but no matter speed I set, BT and GSM module all failed, and when I ask the support window, they just said cause when adjust the clock on S3C, the bus speed will change, too....
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PHM *appears* to work, but in fact it doesn't. I tried it watching a movie on Core Player. There was no difference at 200mHz or 450 mHz. Neither of these two clocking solutions work with the Samsung CPU in the Trinity. (Yet).

Extrem System Slowdown Using A2DP

Hi
I am Using Schaps WinMob6 with an Motorola S9 over A2DP, as soon as I start streaming the system slows down so bad that it is almost impossible to use!
Is this normal? Anyone using A2DP experiencing the same Problem? What can I do to fix this?
Grüsse,
Chris

i have experienced the same thing no matter when ROM I use. theres not a lot of settings to change so they just sit in a drawer now collecting dust.

i have experienced the same thing no matter what ROM I use. theres not a lot of settings to change so they just sit in a drawer now collecting dust.

I'm experiencing this as well with Schaps ROM. If someone got it to work without problem, please let us know.

Hmm, I don't remember this problem when I was using Schaps ROM... what app are you using to stream. I pretty much solely used Coreplayer 1.1.1 for everything though.
Definitely not having this problem with K's rom which I'm testing now. It works sweet.

If I remember correctly I tried with both WMP and PP with the same result.

I believe A2DP takes a fair amount of CPU power - first the application needs to decode the mp3, then feeds it into the virtual sound device - bluetooth stereo - whose drivers then transcode the sound into something that can fit into Bluetooth's bandwidth. The transcoding has to be done in real-time so it probably has a high priority for CPU time. I don't think I've ever used a ROM where A2DP wouldn't slow down the device, and this includes an Axim x50v @ 624 MHz.

Hi Guys,
I have the feeling that things have gotten a bit better after installing Total Commander!?
Does this make sense?
Using TCPMP with You Tub plugin ( Vids Run great unless A2DP / )
Grüsse,
Chris

kltye said:
I believe A2DP takes a fair amount of CPU power - first the application needs to decode the mp3, then feeds it into the virtual sound device - bluetooth stereo - whose drivers then transcode the sound into something that can fit into Bluetooth's bandwidth. The transcoding has to be done in real-time so it probably has a high priority for CPU time. I don't think I've ever used a ROM where A2DP wouldn't slow down the device, and this includes an Axim x50v @ 624 MHz.
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It IS processor-intensive, particularly on Samsung CPU's, where it can easily eat 50% CPU time. This is why there's so bad a slowdown.
Read my related articles, they're all cross-posted to the Wiki here - I've elaborated a LOT on all these subjects.

mortplayer seems best for me, but yes there's always slowdown, the tcpmp thing; its the only program with which you can watch videos cleanly without skipping/slowdown via a2dp.

Darn
I just upgradet from a Magician in the hope that the Samsung would have more Power, but / On my Magician ther ist almost no Slowdown using A2DP.
Are there any aps where I can OC my Samsung?
Sadly My tcpmp skips vids using A2DP . I guess I will only be using my S9 when Joging or Biking.
Grüsse,
Chris

I'm having these probs on my 8525. No clue how to fix it. Theres a lot of storage and program memmory left on the darn phone. It used to work perfect, but suddenly had problems. The music stutters a lot with both wmp and tcpmp. I'm using the iphono minis with A2DP. These issues never existed with WM5 as far as I know, though the quality was of course lower. Perhaps the processes that up the quality of the [email protected] stream are causing a trade of in CPU/memory consumption. Maybe that means lowering the quality (maybe via a registry tweak) somewhat will alleviate the problem?

I'd recommend switching to a wired headset
I got the same issue with my A2DP headset. It's not an issue that can be fixed with tweaking. A2DP is simply CPU intensive (not memory intensive).
Lowering the bitrate would help, but not enough I'm afraid.

tweaks that help
Hey there,
I had a little trouble with helmi's wm6 (excellent rom) and the original wm5. The following link has some reg tweaks (http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=10668). It's still a little gappy, but much better. Also, the sound quality seems to be a lot better.