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A2DP for WM5 coming soon...

I'm looking for a way to redirect my TomTom voice instructions from my MDA Vario through my Parrat CK3300 BT carkit sounding on my car-speakersystem by using the bluetooth stack. Now Parrot claims this isn't possible due to a phone limitation. I agree and think it's shortage of Microsoft WM5. Now I've looked up some info about Bluetooth Audio Distribution and found the following:
Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP)
AKU 2.0 for Windows Mobile 5.0 (for both, Smartphone and Pocket PC), which is expected to be released early next year (2006), will also includes support for the Bluetooth Advanced Audio Distribution Profile profile which is designed to transfer a stereo audio stream like music from the device to a headset or car radio.
A2DP is already implemented into the Samsung SGH-i300 Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition Smartphone, however this isn't based on Microsoft's A2DP implementation but Samsung added it itself.
(Refer to http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=2779 for more info concerning this subject.)
So if this article is based on true facts, it means that Microsoft will soon release a patch for all WM5 based devices, which enables them to receive all audio (e.g. TomTom voice instructions) through the bluetooth stack.
Somebody knows more about this subject and if it's true that after having AKU 2.0 installed, you can hear the navigation instructions through your carkit or headset?
Many thanks,
Youri Festen

there is a facility on this forum that will allow you to switch audio to and from the bluetooth, not high quality or stereo but standard quality.

There is ?
Been loking around in the threads for quite a while, but didn't find a replicatable solution...

Here you go

Tried all kind of files, but no go...
All i want is ALL audio over the Carkit (Supertooth2). That is TomTom + Phone.
I don't care if i have to trun of the carkit to return audio to the phone. But i don't want to have to reset or something.
I have a XDA (Himalaya) btw. Still with Rom 1.72 00WWE 15/03/2004 (Ext Rom 1.72.125)
Tried all these :
BA_OEM_AudioGW.CAB
BA_WM5_Voice_Dialer_2.cab
BCHS_FOR_POCKET_PC_OZONE[1].ARMV4.CAB
Broadcom Corporation BT-PPC AV.cab
Broadcom Stack + Switcher + Icon.zip
BroadcomCorp_BT1.0.0.3900.cab
BTAGExtModule-2.zip
btagextmodule.zip
btaudio.zip
MS-BT-107.ARMV4.CAB
SCO settings all BT.txt
voicedial2.rar

whoa it worked
i know im reaching here, but really wanted to try to stream to the new cingular 2125 (aka hct). downloaded and ran the app with my iphono steroe headphones (luv em), got intresting results.
it worked. ran the app, pushed the button on the headphones, got music. call came in, answered (with auto answer) talked, and on hangup it went back to music. however, if i ran another app on the phone such as voice tag in contacts to initiate a call, it brought in the call, but on hangup went back to the speaker. had to run the toggle on again to get headphones working, not elegant - always want more - but im a happy guy til a2dp comes out for mobile 5. thanks!

try looking at this
http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=54951&perpage=20&pagenumber=1
might be what you need

Scollinguk said:
try looking at this
http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=54951&perpage=20&pagenumber=1
might be what you need
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Try reading and understanding what you read before posting. See the post of dalamario that is the BTAudio on/off tool !
Is this goingt to be anter shout and wild guesses about what file or tool should "really"work ?
I tried all so called "easy" fixes, hell, i've even got a whole dump of my registry, cut through all the BT + Audio and BT + Headset threads, here and on PDAPhonehome, Howardsforum, and the reduced-to-user-bla-bla on pocketPC-club.nl.
And still zilch.....
Ow, and don't think i'm someone who wants easy answers... Think again, i've been around quite a while on PPC forums and the lot....
What i do want/like is usefull answers ans clues on how this BT and Audio stuff works, beut even after reading some on MSDN i can't find a solution yet....
That's why i jumped in on this thread, i'm not going to reinvent the wheel if some allready has the solution: Tomtom and Phone audio over BT
So i'll stop writing now, and continiu searschin for a solution... There must be one...

Sorry mr high horse, wont bother trying to help next time just in case i might not be right, but then if everyone did that no one would answer anything.

The Wizard can do system Audio over bluetooth.
This has been proved with the easy hack that allows you to activiate voice dial using a BT headset.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29837
MS Voice Command leaves the Audio Gateway open after initialising, whilst Voice Dialler closes it.
So maybe try installing Voice Command and doing the hack in the above referenced thread, and then see if you can launch Voice command from your car kit. This should leve the gateway open and allow all system sounds to stream to your BT kit until you hit the button again.

jpiek said:
Try reading and understanding what you read before posting.
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Try keeping Himalaya talk in the Himalaya forum then. Posting questions about devices in the wrong forums just causes confusion.

Scollinguk said:
Sorry mr high horse, wont bother trying to help next time just in case i might not be right, but then if everyone did that no one would answer anything.
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Not Mr High Horse, but didn't you look at what you where posting ? You should know it linked to the same file, right ? If not, you really would just be 'shouting' ...
It's just that i've been reading XXX threads, and just about everyone comes up with the same, useless, files... Like nowbody really knows how it works and waht should be done to make Audio over BT possible...
We here are all trying real hard for months now, you see....

Just a little patience. Test version of Qtek 9100 ROM with A2DP already exists. It works with I-Phono bt-stereo, for example. So I think it will be released by March.

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bob]Just a little patience. Test version of Qtek 9100 ROM with A2DP already exists. It works with I-Phono bt-stereo, for example. So I think it will be released by March.
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where is it? i want it! i need it!
ready to test.

Can't share it.

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bob]Can't share it.
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spoil sport
i won't tell anyone,
got motorola ht850 headphones.
have one question whilst here,
when i am on the underground the headset give a beep to tell me i have no network signal? you may not know the answer but would this over ride the bluetooth stereo signal?
p.s. send me your bank details for the transfer :wink:

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bob]Just a little patience. Test version of Qtek 9100 ROM with A2DP already exists. It works with I-Phono bt-stereo, for example. So I think it will be released by March.
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Do you think that when it works with I-Phono, it will also offer us the navigation voice instructions through BT-headsets or carkits? Hope so!

Can't test it with car navigator.

if audio streaming is enabled, i would have thought you should be able to hear navigation commands.
i have used the bt audio switch that started this thread to hear tomtom commands through my headset, and it works fine.
saves me explaining to my 84 year old dad why yoda is giving me directions :lol:

aliendad said:
if audio streaming is enabled, i would have thought you should be able to hear navigation commands.
i have used the bt audio switch that started this thread to hear tomtom commands through my headset, and it works fine.
saves me explaining to my 84 year old dad why yoda is giving me directions :lol:
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It's nice.... I'd really like Tomtom over my carkit... Ohh, the XDA was so much easyer just soldered a Ground and Left/Right channnel into my TomTom/Leadtec connector, and plugged it in to my JVC Front-in line...
I bought the Qtec 2020 because BT seemd so much easyer

Why is A2DP not included in ROM 2.16.9.1 WWE?

I've been waiting for AKU2 ever since it was announced back around Christmas. It finally got released from Imate today and after flashing my KJAM there is still no Stereo Headset profile??? What gives? Anybody know why it's not there, I thought this was supposed to be one of the big features of AKU2 besides push mail?

I read on another forum (I only quickly looked, honest, this is the only forum for me) that the A2DP profile caused the device to slow down too much and they were removing it for that reason. When I read it it was just a rumor but it looks like they were correct.
I dare say after some more tweaking that it will return as the slowdown only occurs when the profile is active.
If you really need it use the Qtek 2.8.x.x rom on the FTP server as it is very stable if not fully optimised.

Well, that sounds like a reasonable explanation. Given that the Wizard is barely 200mhz and A2DP is a CPU hog. But DANG IT, they should have released it and just had a pop up warning or something,"Performance may be impacted during music playback via the Bluetooth headset." Or something at least. I don't mind if the PPC is sluggish while I'm listening to Podcasts! ARGH!
I heard the Qtek ROM was kinda buggy. I'm not sure I want to flash to something that's gonna make my phone unstable all the time. Have you used that ROM?

I am using the Qtek aku2. Its far from buggy.
As far as i can say they could have made it general available.

Using the Qtek ROM as well [just got a pair of stereo BT headsets yesterday] and I don't see any performance issues as well. Maybe it also depends on what you have installed on your device. I probably won't be updating the imate ROM if it doesn't have a2dp. I don't need the push email but I am enjoting the BT music streaming heehee
Try out the Qtek ROM it might be ok for your device.

Paladin27 said:
Well, that sounds like a reasonable explanation. Given that the Wizard is barely 200mhz and A2DP is a CPU hog. But DANG IT, they should have released it and just had a pop up warning or something,"Performance may be impacted during music playback via the Bluetooth headset." Or something at least. I don't mind if the PPC is sluggish while I'm listening to Podcasts! ARGH!
I heard the Qtek ROM was kinda buggy. I'm not sure I want to flash to something that's gonna make my phone unstable all the time. Have you used that ROM?
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No offense but you seem to be saying imate should have released it with A2DP bugs, but you don't want to use the qtek beta because it might have bugs. Err make your mind up dude.

I don't think sluggish performance using A2DP is necessarily a bug. Given that the processor is only 200mhz and streaming 128kbps stereo audio over Bluetooth is processor intensive, it's probably just the nature of the beast. It may turn out that Qtek will remove A2DP from their final ROM as well after they get feedback about the beta firmware.
Do you guys know if the Qtek beta ROM fixed the Storage Card disconnecting issue? Because the KJAM AKU2 update has finally resolved this issue for me. I can leave programs open on the storage card and turn the device off and on and the programs don't crash out anymore.

Can you please post a WORKING link to the QTEK9100 AKU2 Test ROM with the working A2DP? The ones I've found are not working. Otherwise, can someone arrange to email it to me?
Has anyone here tried the QTEK9100 AKU2 ROM on an unlocked US Tmobile MDA?

i was also pretty annoyed that A2DP had been left out of this update as i had bought myself a set of stereo bluetooth headphones for xmas in anticipation of the update and now they will continue to sit on a shelf gathering dust.
I thought why not email i-mate - [email protected] - and ask them. To tell you the truth i was not expecting an answer (or at least not for several days) as with my previous experiences.
Well i was pleasantly surprised (amazed even) that i-mate replied to my email within 3 hours. They said:
Thank you for your E-mail. Regarding your query, please note that our engineers are working to integrate the A2DP profile on Windows Mobile 5 devices via ROM upgrades but we do not have yet any information or release date for this update hence, we would suggest that you keep a regular check on the www.clubimate.com for further information about new upgrades, releases and services.
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I thought this is cool but wanted confirmation that A2DP would be released as an update for the K-JAM and current devices and not just future / new devices so i asked them to confirm this for me, This time i recieved a reply within minutes:
Thank you for your E-mail. Regarding your query, we confirm that A2DP update will be soon released for K-JAM.
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Overall i must say this was the best support experience i have ever had from i-mate. Maybe they are listening to us after all. Of course no timeframes as is the i-mate way but it does look promising for us.
Cheers
Chris

Puckster said:
Well i was pleasantly surprised (amazed even) that i-mate replied to my email within 3 hours.
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wow! :shock: when I owned an i-mate JAM I waited for 2 weeks until I got a reply. I guess i-mate is learning to treat their customers better... too bad I already switched to dopod and since Manila has a very small difference in time [dopod's singapore office - I think a few hours] I usually get replies within the day... still like i-mate dopod has no timeline and answers with the generic lines...
thank you for your email
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we are testing this
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check the members area
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De Ja Vu... with a different company ey :wink:

Theres been a few recent posts around here and other forums speculating exactly why A2DP did not make it into the recent i-mate update.
Some of these posts have been suggesting that the A2DP 128k audio stream is too resource intesive for the Wizard's 200MHz Ti Omap850 CPU.
So, i thought i would ask one of the Microsoft Mobility guys on his MSDN Blog to see if he could confirm this. Whilst he was not actually able to tell us the reason of the hold up, he has confirmed its not likely to be the CPU: Read his Blog at http://blogs.msdn.com/jasonlan/archive/2006/03/02/542036.aspx
Jason Langridge - Chris - no that's not accurate - I have it running on other devices with similar CPU specifications. re: A2DP - Ultimately it's an i-mate decision what is/isn't included in their releases.
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Lets hope i-mate don't take too long :wink:
Chris

bnycastro said:
Using the Qtek ROM as well [just got a pair of stereo BT headsets yesterday] and I don't see any performance issues as well. Maybe it also depends on what you have installed on your device. I probably won't be updating the imate ROM if it doesn't have a2dp. I don't need the push email but I am enjoting the BT music streaming heehee
Try out the Qtek ROM it might be ok for your device.
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I also own imate kjam and want to use Motorola HT 820 bluetooth headset. Form this thread it looks that if I install Qtek ROM on imate then I'd be able to use this headset.
CAn i get the link to download Qtek ROM?
Thans is advance

Hi, but i don't understand if is possible put inside qtek 9100 the A2DP and AVRCP. How?
I have buy bth-820 and i can't use
Thanks
PS: now i can!

Does Magician's A2DP patch work on the prophet?

techspy said:
Well, I installed on my Jamin and all the options show up etc. Now I am in the hunt for a stereo headset to try the AD2P.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=255844#255844

Still dont have a a2dp headset to try it out. However, I removed the patch as I was getting an error about not being able to start audio recording device when I would try to record video with audio. Not sure if was related, but the problem went away after restoring a backup from several days before installing the patch. I will install it again when I get the headset to see if it works.

Just tried.. I didn't get my headset to work..
Waiting for another patch or another solution..

Pasci said:
Just tried.. I didn't get my headset to work..
Waiting for another patch or another solution..
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You're sure you set it up right?
What was it like?

I'm not sure if I've done all correctly..
I installed the cab as usual, or is there something else to keep in mind?
I got the option in my bluetooth settings as shown in http://forum.xda-developers.com/files/img_0270.jpg
The bluetooth recognized my HP-Headphone but when I'm playing music then the sound didn't play on headphone, still on ppc's speaker..
Any ideas?

Pasci said:
I'm not sure if I've done all correctly..
I installed the cab as usual, or is there something else to keep in mind?
I got the option in my bluetooth settings as shown in http://forum.xda-developers.com/files/img_0270.jpg
The bluetooth recognized my HP-Headphone but when I'm playing music then the sound didn't play on headphone, still on ppc's speaker..
Any ideas?
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Follow these instructions
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4679.html
Are you using an A2DP headset?

Yes, i checked with two different A2DP Headsets..
Done as shown in the link..
Doesn't work.. You can't connect to the headset..
Another Bug is that the WMP no longer want to play files after installing the cab..

Pasci said:
Another Bug is that the WMP no longer want to play files after installing the cab..
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There volume is probably on 0%.

Edit: Doesn't apply.

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Pasci said:
Another Bug is that the WMP no longer want to play files after installing the cab..
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There volume is probably on 0%.
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No.. There is an error message, that it can't play some songs.. (tried different filetypes..)

Pasci said:
No.. There is an error message, that it can't play some songs.. (tried different filetypes..)
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There's a way to un-install the patch without doing a hard reset. Look through that thread on the magician forum.

A2DP for Magician do not compatible with Prophet becaus of audio driver. I faund this: http://buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=59&func=view&id=6376&catid=26, may be it will helps. I going to check this out right now.

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There's a way to un-install the patch without doing a hard reset. Look through that thread on the magician forum.
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Hard reset didn't matter.. I installed it on a development device..
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A2DP for Magician do not compatible with Prophet becaus of audio driver. I faund this: http://buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=59&func=view&id=6376&catid=26, may be it will helps. I going to check this out right now.
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Links doesn't work for me.. Waiting for a (positiv) feedback about your attempt..

I try this: Widcom150AMD. Unfortunately, it not works on my S200. Bluetooth won’t start and audio turns off. I'm afraid we have to wait HTC release proper Bluetooth stack extensions for Prophet.

bombomtr said:
I try this: Widcom150AMD. Unfortunately, it not works on my S200. Bluetooth won’t start and audio turns off. I'm afraid we have to wait HTC release proper Bluetooth stack extensions for Prophet.
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Do u know when? I'm using Dopod 818 Pro + BT Headset iTech Clip S38 now... I'm awating for that 'coz I want to use stereo ability from my BT
heaset now...

Theerayuth said:
Do u know when?...
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Unfortunately, I don’t know when HTC release A2DP for Prophet. I think they wait till Microsoft released ‘Windows Mobile 5 Adoption Kit Update 2.0’ by end of first quarter 2006 (which is over already). So it could happen any moment. I can’t wait also, because I’d like to use my Plantronics Pulsar 590 in full scale.

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Theerayuth said:
Do u know when?...
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Unfortunately, I don’t know when HTC release A2DP for Prophet. I think they wait till Microsoft released ‘Windows Mobile 5 Adoption Kit Update 2.0’ by end of first quarter 2006 (which is over already). So it could happen any moment. I can’t wait also, because I’d like to use my Plantronics Pulsar 590 in full scale.
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thanks for your response. So, i think that both of us
are under the same situation....
waiting for never ending story..... :?: :?: :?:
anyway, please update me when u have latest info... :idea: :idea: :idea:

Universal's A2DP Quality

Hi,
maybe someone can give me some info.
Have a T-Mobile Germany MDA Pro with the newest Stock ROM supporting A2DP.
Have board a brand new Plantronics Pulsar 590A Headset. It works, but the quality of the sound is very very bad with my Universal. I have also tryed the smal A2DP Sender, that comes packed with the Plantronics device and the quality is 100 times better. What is the problem? Can I adjust the bitrate of A2DP transfer in wm 5.0 registry?
The sound is a little much deep and on mid to hig frequencies, i hear a high frequencie noise.
Does anyone else has this problem?
This is not a problem of the receiving device.
Thanks for any help on this :`)

No Ideas?
Please Help!

I have the Qtek WWE ROM on my Qtek (latest official version). I use a Jabra bt620s, and i have no problems with it.
Maybe it's some obstruction of the signal? Do you encounter the problem when the Qtek is in clear view of the headset at a meter away?

I have the Motorola HT820, and finally got round to installing the Qtek WWE ROM today. Connects fine, I can walk into another room from the Uni and have no problems; But -
I also get a high pitched noise, particularly on music with lots of treble. It can be controlled up to a point by tweaking the graphic equaliser, but it is still annoying.
When using the HT820s linked to my Bluetooth PC and laptop, they sound superb - so it is a problem with the universal.

Thanks so far, i start hating my Universal ....
I think, there can be 3 reasons for that.
The Windows Mobile A2DP Software encoder, if it is software encoded.
The Bluetooth Chip, if it is HW encoded in Bluetooth.
The Radio ROM or Chip, if it is encoded on the Radio Processor.
I am not so deep in the Universal Technologie, but i know, that the sound was very clear on Blue Angel using the broadcom stack. So I think, it is M$ Bluetooth that makes the problem, but i am not realy sure.

... or is there anyone how don't has this kind of problem?

Hi,
I personally have never had that problem (which I interperate as "some form of noise" when listening to music over A2DP) you guys mention here, neither with my Motorola HT820's or i-Tech BluePRO's.
Only problems I have had with A2DP and my Universal is;
1. Pause/Resume button not working always in Windows Media Player (works fine in latest version of PocketMusic though)
2. Not automatic reconnect of A2DP when I turn headset on (only prob with the i-Tech's, Motorola's seems to work fine)
3. Occational drop/loss of sound for a second or two (have this under control now, only an issue for me now, when there is to much obstructions between Universal and my i-Tech headset)

RonnyGydar said:
1. Pause/Resume button not working always in Windows Media Player (works fine in latest version of PocketMusic though)
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I also have this Problem. Sometimes, i have to press, the button twice, sometimes i have to hold it. But the problem apears only, on resume.
RonnyGydar said:
2. Not automatic reconnect of A2DP when I turn headset on (only prob with the i-Tech's, Motorola's seems to work fine)
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Yes, that's realy evil ... I also have that. Reconnecting of Handsfree works fine.
RonnyGydar said:
3. Occational drop/loss of sound for a second or two (have this under control now, only an issue for me now, when there is to much obstructions between Universal and my i-Tech headset)
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This is a general Universal Problem. Maybe Radio Interference, maybe missing some CPU power.
The noisy and unclean sound can be a ROM Version Problem, if you don't have that. I have tryed also with a Linux Computer as A2DP SINK Client, and the sound is same bad.
That's my ROM Version Info:
ROM-Version: 1.30.113 GER
Radio-Version: 1.10.03
Protokoll-Version: 42.44.P8
ExtROM-Version: 1.30.223 GER
Windows Version is 5.1.195 (Build 14847.2.0.0)

EyeOfTheStorm said:
I also have this Problem. Sometimes, i have to press, the button twice, sometimes i have to hold it. But the problem apears only, on resume.
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Try downloading the latest PocketMusic version (if free for 30 days I think...so you'll be in heaven for 30 days at least), there it works perfect. ...it was enough for me to "cough up" the money to buy it!
And yes it seems to be every second time, and then one has to press button on Universal/Media Player once...bloody irritating...when the Universal is in the bag or something.
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Yes, that's realy evil ... I also have that. Reconnecting of Handsfree works fine.
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Yepp, I have exactly same behaviour (handsfree no prob, while A2DP needs manual reconnect with iTech's...but with the Motorola HT820's I belive it was automatic though)
EyeOfTheStorm said:
This is a general Universal Problem. Maybe Radio Interference, maybe missing some CPU power.
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For me I am pretty sure it is pure radio problem now (have tested with an app called SuperTask, and A2DP takes approx 20% CPU, and my JasJar now used a total of 40-45% CPU when I listen to music over A2DP with PocketMusic). I only have this problem when I have the JasJar in my pant pockets, are in an area I know there is a lot of interference+have some obstructions. Except from that it is fine now.
You can see this post on my "socalled test" (it was just a simple test, but it seems to give a good indication at least) of A2DP's effect on CPU here;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53717
You can see my (and some others) experiences with A2DP and some stuff we have tried to fix/handle it as good as possible;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53431&sid=87c2c327d12afa647df4d8773a330ee2
EyeOfTheStorm said:
The noisy and unclean sound can be a ROM Version Problem, if you don't have that. I have tryed also with a Linux Computer as A2DP SINK Client, and the sound is same bad.
That's my ROM Version Info:
ROM-Version: 1.30.113 GER
Radio-Version: 1.10.03
Protokoll-Version: 42.44.P8
ExtROM-Version: 1.30.223 GER
Windows Version is 5.1.195 (Build 14847.2.0.0)
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I have no clue...do you have a Universal (I would guess so from that you post it here )...if so the HW is identical...so then...yes it should be the SW/ROM...since you actually have tried with another "headset" (your Linux computer). But I am sorry, that I am not much of contribution...if nothing else...I agree with your logic here!
BTW my ROM version++ is stated in the A2DP-test post I linked to above (don't remember the numbers...but I have the "latest QTEK WWE" ROM).

Thanks for your comments.
Maybe it's the T-Mobile Germany ROM that is the Problem. Have allready called the technical support at T-Mobile, to help.
Maybe they are ignoring me, but i have tryed.

Universal's blue tooth signal terrible
Look I had many imate devices and bluetooth sets. The Universal has a very weak bluetooth signal even with normal bluetooths.
I have tried 3 or 4 different bluetooth headsets and they all give me a max of 3 meters. With the Jam and pda2k with the same headsets I used to get 10meters.
I gues this is the reall problem you are facing, the bluetooth reception is terrible on Universal, try being really close like 40CM away and if the sound is good you will know that it is only a reception issue from the universal.

I noted the 40 ~50 cm distance problem when I reviewed my nokia hs-12w a2dp headset about a month ago, it is very irritating. I think it is to do with where the BT chip is placed !!! it is between the keyboard and the battery, from what I could tell of the exploded diagram on this site !! meaning it is surrounded by metal !!! not good .
PS I never have problems connecting my hs12w headset for audio use, however if I take a phone call, after the call has ended I loose AVRCP

EyeOfTheStorm said:
The sound is a little much deep and on mid to hig frequencies, i hear a high frequencie noise.
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How do you play sounds over bluetooth ?
I'm trying to understand the routes of analog and digital
sound data and how to control them.

cr2 said:
EyeOfTheStorm said:
The sound is a little much deep and on mid to hig frequencies, i hear a high frequencie noise.
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How do you play sounds over bluetooth ?
I'm trying to understand the routes of analog and digital
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Hi cr2,
yes I read about it in IRC Log. But what you like to do is, streaming sound direct to the bluetooth hardware. Universal hardware supports this feature. There are 2 Bluetooth Profiles implemented for, one is called "Handsfree" and one is calles "Headset" and ini Windows Mobile Registry you will find it if you look for "Audio Gateway". The registry values are also documented in the online MSDN Lib. I will post a link, later, if I find it.
What I am doing is A2DP, that means ... all stereo sound will be compressed in software and then send as datastream to the bluetooth device.
Have attached the A2DP specification. Under Linux there is a project calles "bluetooth-alsa", that supports A2DP and Handsfree. Look for it at sourceforge.net.

EyeOfTheStorm said:
all stereo sound will be compressed in software and then send as datastream to the bluetooth device.
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There are several options here. It can be sent directly
on some phones, or (theoretically) through the phone,
or even redigitized from the analog (for mono).
Under Linux there is a project calles "bluetooth-alsa", that supports A2DP and Handsfree. Look for it at sourceforge.net.
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Software is not a problem. We need to understand
what the hardware is doing.

Hermes (JasJam) Bluetooth Stereo

Appears to be an oxymoron, 'coz mine will only play in Mono via Bluetooth. Stereo OK via cable headset....
Anyone got fix?

tropo said:
Appears to be an oxymoron, 'coz mine will only play in Mono via Bluetooth. Stereo OK via cable headset....
Anyone got fix?
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1. welcome to XDA-Dev
2. are you sure you use your stereo headphones in WIRELESS STEREO mode ("Set as Wireless Stereo" in BT manager), not as HEADSET?

Stereo - Mono BT Connection
Thanks for the quick reply Menneisyys, Originally I had it selected as both Handsfree and BT Stereo. Uninstalled it and re-paired as Bluetooth Stereo only. The Sony HBH-DS970 Headset still only receives in mono. Same problem with sending from the Hermes to a Motorola DC800 stereo gateway. Both receivers play perfectly in Stereo from the laptop, but only in mono from the Hermes. ????

joint stereo that is. easy registry hack should fix it.
correct settings are:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\A2DP\Settings]
"UseJointStereo"=dword:00000000

SecureGSM said:
joint stereo that is. easy registry hack should fix it.
correct settings are:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\A2DP\Settings]
"UseJointStereo"=dword:00000000
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Yup, it should make sure it's in stereo (BTW, what app could have messed it up, that is, set to 1 (mono)?); also see http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1400&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 where I've also elaborated on this value.

Menneisyys said:
Yup, it should make sure it's in stereo (BTW, what app could have messed it up, that is, set to 1 (mono)?); also see http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1400&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 where I've also elaborated on this value.
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OK, I give up. Have tried to install both PHMRegdit and VidyaReg on my JasJam to fix, but neither will install on the mobile. They dont come up in the install options list on the installer. Bit of a novice here. Appreciate any advice. Havent played with the registry before.
Thx.

tropo said:
OK, I give up. Have tried to install both PHMRegdit and VidyaReg on my JasJam to fix, but neither will install on the mobile. They dont come up in the install options list on the installer. Bit of a novice here. Appreciate any advice. Havent played with the registry before.
Thx.
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The PHM Regedit MSI file is known NOT to work (see the Registry Bible: http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/menneisyys/UltimateRoundupOfRegistryEditors.asp ) on XP boxes. Therefore, I've uploaded the CAB file for you to http://www.winmobiletech.com/sekalaiset/regedit.Rpr_ARM.CAB

Legend!
Menneisyys said:
Yup, it should make sure it's in stereo (BTW, what app could have messed it up, that is, set to 1 (mono)?); also see http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1400&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 where I've also elaborated on this value.
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Thanks mate! Fixed. I hope whoever pays you pays you well!!

Menneisyys said:
...(BTW, what app could have messed it up, that is, set to 1 (mono)...
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AFAIK, Joint stereo=1 is default settings for many ROMs.

Menneisyys said:
The PHM Regedit MSI file is known NOT to work (see the Registry Bible: http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/menneisyys/UltimateRoundupOfRegistryEditors.asp ) on XP boxes. Therefore, I've uploaded the CAB file for you to http://www.winmobiletech.com/sekalaiset/regedit.Rpr_ARM.CAB
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Well done - works fine on Orange SPV M700 WM5. Why ms have lock it in mono anyway?
Many thx, mate