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No Direct3D Mobile for german branded Universals ?

Hello, recently I have been trying to get the Direct3D Mobile capabilites of the .NET Compact Framework 2.0 working on my german T-Mobile MDA-Pro (HTC Universal).
I have tested some applications that use this feature (such as Pocket Jongg 3D ). But they all throw an exception (Microsoft.WindowsMobile.DirectX.DriverUnsupportedException)
A lot of users reprorted the same problem (see msdn forum) this seem to include all german branded HTC Universal not just T-Mobile:
The reason for this exception seems to be clear: The direct3d-drivers that come with those devices is not capable of doing direct3d !!!! Now is there a proven way to exchange those drivers? Or another way to make Direct3D Mobile run on an HTC Universal ? Is there anyone with a german HTC Universal that got Direct3D Mobile running ?
Here is another usefull resource.
Now it looks like that my MDA-Pro has none of those drivers listed there, instead I find two dlls:
d3dm.dll <--- size: 50,3 kbyte (seems to be just a dummy file)
D3DMXSc50PB.dll

I have written a little tool that detects the direct3d capabilites of your windows mobile 5 device: http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=174765
It looks like that german HTC Universals do support direct3d mobile, but most games just need some special capabilities that the drivers shipped with all german HTC Universals do not support.
If I only new how to correctly exchange the drivers .....

Hi
Anybody found a Solution? is it working on English Operating System? I have the same Issues with my Meteor and Hermes Devices.
BR
Daniel

HTC camera capture problem

Hey All
I am working on developing a video capture program on HTC/Dopod phone by using directshow. My phone is HTC 8525 and Dopod 838pro. I tested ms video capture example which work in old HTC (8135 with 1.3 mpixel camera) and blackjack. I am able to capture 176x144 camera. But on HTC 8525 and Dopod 838pro, video frame buffer is not refreshed every 2-3 seconds, and get 160x120. Any one knows how to resolve this?
Thanks in advance.

Alot of HTC phones really suck when it comes to DirectShow camera capturing. Although they report some resolution and an fps.. they don't actually follow through. So far I know that the HTC Hermes 100, 200 and Touch aren't very good contenders.
NOW that said.. there are 2 DLL's in the \Windows directory entitled HTCCamera.dll and HTCCamera1.dll... wanna bet what those do?
I'll post another thread regarding this though.

Looking for beta-testers

Hi everyone !
I'm requesting a bit of help : I'm finishing up the latest release of Skinz Sudoku Pro (freeware version will come back a few days later, I have some things to adjust first ^^), version 1.30, and need beta-testers now...
The main features to test in the version :
- Better speed on slow devices and VGA
- Bugfixes (hints, awards, etc...)
- Custom sudokus (enter sudokus from a newspaper and play it later on...)
- New menu (nothing major, just to allow more stuff like custom sudokus ^^)
- Optimized ram use some more, smaller exe
The save format has been updated to allow custom sudokus. Because of this, people using very old saves may have their saves corrupted. To limit the damage, Skinz Sudoku will automatically create a backup of old saves. If you have problems, please send me that backup and I'll try to fix it...
Devices I'm looking for to test on (1 of each if possible) :
- WM2003SE, WM5, and WM6 240x320 PocketPCs
- 480x640 PocketPC
- Devices having the slow display driver problems (HTC TyTN II, HTC Touch Dual, etc...)
- 240x320 Smartphones
If you have one (or more ^^) devices corresponding to my needs, please PM me your email and the device you have (name + OS + screen size), I'll send you a test copy as soon as possible.
Thanks to everyone !!!
(of course, any help with feedback will get you a free copy once the final version is released : )

i can test it in a smartphone running WM6

I don't play too often, but I would be glad to help. I have a Blue Angel running WM 6.1 (one of the pdaviet versions, don't ask me which one cause I don't remember ), 240x320 screen size.

Tester
I will test on mogul with no2 5060 rom

I'll test on my TYTN II for you

I currently have Skinz Sudoku freeware installed on my TyTN II.
That version runs great.
I you still need it, I can test your new version on my TyTN II.

Mollusk said:
Hi everyone !
I'm requesting a bit of help : I'm finishing up the latest release of Skinz Sudoku Pro (freeware version will come back a few days later, I have some things to adjust first ^^), version 1.30, and need beta-testers now...
The main features to test in the version :
- Better speed on slow devices and VGA
- Bugfixes (hints, awards, etc...)
- Custom sudokus (enter sudokus from a newspaper and play it later on...)
- New menu (nothing major, just to allow more stuff like custom sudokus ^^)
- Optimized ram use some more, smaller exe
The save format has been updated to allow custom sudokus. Because of this, people using very old saves may have their saves corrupted. To limit the damage, Skinz Sudoku will automatically create a backup of old saves. If you have problems, please send me that backup and I'll try to fix it...
Devices I'm looking for to test on (1 of each if possible) :
- WM2003SE, WM5, and WM6 240x320 PocketPCs
- 480x640 PocketPC
- Devices having the slow display driver problems (HTC TyTN II, HTC Touch Dual, etc...)
- 240x320 Smartphones
If you have one (or more ^^) devices corresponding to my needs, please PM me your email and the device you have (name + OS + screen size), I'll send you a test copy as soon as possible.
Thanks to everyone !!!
(of course, any help with feedback will get you a free copy once the final version is released : )
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I have and htc x7500 just send me a PM if you want me to test

Thanks everyone Sent PMs with the link

I have a kaiser and can test it too

Beta Feedback
Ok tried it and this is what I get (see pic below). The only way clear it is to soft reset.
Thanks for the opportunity.

Just an FYI..Perpetual image viewer did the same thing...

I could also test on X51V with WM6.1 I'm really addicted to sudoku

well, I played with it for a bit. Used every option and I have to say it looks great! Really fast, smooth transitions and animations. Will try it a bit more and see if I can find anything wrong with it, but so far I got nothing!
BA running pdaviet WM6.1
240x320

hs1333a said:
Ok tried it and this is what I get (see pic below). The only way clear it is to soft reset.
Thanks for the opportunity.
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Thanks :/ Does that happen when launching the game or exiting ? Those it prevent you from using the game ? I just can't reproduce this on the WM6 emulator :s

Hi i have a HTC TOuch (ELF) that i can use for testing

Mollusk said:
Thanks :/ Does that happen when launching the game or exiting ? Those it prevent you from using the game ? I just can't reproduce this on the WM6 emulator :s
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Yes as soon as I launch it. I can play it and the top bar just sits in the middle. Only way to clear it is to soft reset. Again the image viewer does the same thing, but it I play pipes it works fine. Not sure if you use similar coding for each app. The unit I'm using is an HTC Advantage

Not a big sudoku fan but i have a WM2003 device if it'll help. An Alpine with an official O2 ROM. Also got a non phone WM5 PDA, HP iPAQ rx1950.

I have a VGA device = i can help.

Well Here is my result :
tried it on my friends Himalaya running wm 2003se it works
tried it on my Blueangel running WM5 it works
tried it on my Himalaya WM 6.1 It works
tried it on my SP running WM 6..it worked in portrait mode only and its screen resulution is 240X320

I have an Atom Exec and am ready to try it.

got my hands on the qik .cab download

This is for the touch, but I dont see why it wont work on the Hermes. Good luck.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/qik_production/clients/150/Qik_ppc_0.1.10.cab

If you didnt know, this is to stream live video to the internet. It can be viewed at qik.com. I installed it and it launches but then closes right away. Maybe someone who is better at this can have a look and see if it can be made to work.
edit:I extraced the .cab and see that the .xml file has this line; <parm name="OSVersionMax" value="6.0" /> and Im running 6.1. What can I use to recompress this into a .cab after changing that value?

Hey just an fyi
Thanks for posting. I thought I would let you know it worked on my vzw 6800. Previously when I went to dl it said not supported.

Give Livecast a try it works on the 8525
www.livecast.com
Gary

Same problem
Hi-- i just tried the kaiser version on my hermes and it works, but it closes as soon as I hit stream. I'm convinced its because I don't have a chance to log into my qik account and it won't let me stream to whoever's account my cab is set up for. I also don't see why it wouldn't work for mine.
I do use livecast, but I only get 100 mb... at highest settings 300kb/s upstream... usually average around 150 kb in practice, I get about 1.5 hours worth of video. So, i was hoping to be able to get more storage out of qik... if anyone has a fix or workaround for the qik cabs on a hermes I'd love to hear it.
Otherwise, right on with previous poster.. .livecast rules!!!

Qik has just announced support of 20 new WM devices incl Hermes
This includes support for the Palm Treo 800w, for which quite a few of you have been requesting support.
Also included in this build:
- Ability to utilize external flash memory so that you can Qik longer in disconnected mode or under very poor network conditions.
- Better experience for touch devices through on-screen functions that come up when you tap the screen on the phone.
Palmour first Palm device support - yay!)
- Palm Treo 800w
- Palm Treo Pro (alpha support)
Samsung:
- Samsung SGH-i900/i908/ SCH-i910 (Omnia)
- Samsung SGH-i907 (Epix)
- Samsung SGH-i760
- Samsung SGH-i780 (Blackjack3)
HTC-based:
- HTC Touch Pro
- HTC Touch HD
- HTC XV6800
- HTC TyTN
- O2 XDA Trion
- T-Mobile MDA Vario II
- Vodafone 1605 VPA Compact III
- Orange SPV M3100
- Dopod CHT 9000
- Dopod 838 Pro
- DoCoMo HTC Z
- Qtek 9600
- iMate JasJam
- AT&T 8525
- Swisscom XPA v1605
- SoftBank X01HT
- Vodafone PDA 1605
- Vodafone PDA 9600
Amoiour first Amoi device support as well)
- AT&T SMT 5700
- Orange SPV E610
Motorola:
- Motorola Q Music 9m

I Call BS
Just went on the qik site and there's nothing for att 8525. Looks like the same old devices are supported. Where's this new cab you're talking about.

[info] Xperia Display Drivers

Hey
i have tested various display drivers with xperia (stock rom) and here's the info i got it .....it might be useful to u to select which driver u wanna install....
i choose these software to check
1.Sktool 4.4.7.1 (benchmark)
2.D3d tool (attachment in omnia D3D.rar)
3.coreplayer (to check vedio FPS)
here's the result:
A. X1 with Stock Drivers(driver name libgles_cm.dll in windows)
Sktool....1st 673
2nd 774
3rd 775
4th 780
5th 781 = 3783/5 =756.6 (took an avg)
FPS........31.550
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B. X1 with Samsung Omnia Display Drivers
Sktool....1st 772
2nd 774
3rd 774
4th 769
5th 780 = 3869/5 =773.8 (took an avg)
FPS.......34.875
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C. X1 with HTC Diamond display Drivers(driver name libgles_cl.dll in Attachment)
sktool....1st 743
2nd 772
3rd 773
4th 769
5th 766 = 3823/5 =764.6 (took an avg)
FPS.......33.026
So, i think Samsung omnia display drivers is best for x1 between the 3 ....
**needed htc touch hd display driver to test if someone have plz post in this thread**

omnia D3D
i forgot to attachment in 1 st post

Is mere 10% worth the trouble ?

try a true 3d benchmark for 3d drivers.. which is what you've been testing. Sktools bench isn't that good.
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Benchmark/GLBenchmark-Windows-Mobile-OpenGL-ES-CL-33651.shtml
I'll up the wimax, HD and some others if you want (there's the stock htc one and another inside most roms).
Then there's all the Ddraw drivers to test, and the way they interact with the DDI (which is prebuilt into the XIP) for 2d stuff which is what more people are likely to see a benefit from.
heres the 4 ! from the quartz (wimax)

For the Stock ROM test, are you using the R2A10 rom?

yes m using stock rom n ver R1AA017 GENERIC_UK

Moin.
how can i update/install the graphics driver.
Thanks

I believe you just download the cab and run it, then soft reset? Not sure but I also want to try.

i've tried the omnia drivers and there is a slight improvement when loading up the panels and changing how they are laid out. Were you able to get hold of the touch hd drivers as i'm sure i've seen the panels work much smoother on the touch hd

The quartz and Touch HD drivers are pretty identical. I've posted the quartz up above.

i dont really care about d3d too much since no applications (except for panels) that i have installed uses it.
I would kill for some 2d acceleration during regular windows operation, however. as far as i know there is none and probably never will be

whats the touch hd driver called? i have one and would help if i could

The Omnia driver doesn't use the Imageon hardware (since the Omnia doesn't have it). It's completely software-emulated, if anyone was wondering.

fards said:
heres the 4 ! from the quartz (wimax)
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Where do you extract the files to? Windows folder?

just installed omnia drivers, there is a speed difference. All Good

Yeah, omnia driver seems faster.

SO, has anyone tested the 3d drivers with GLBenchmark and is willing to post results? I want the best 3d performance I can get for my xperia.

Where do you extract the files to?!! how to instal the driver?

sjoerdexperia said:
Where do you extract the files to?!! how to instal the driver?
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You don't. Just extract it on your computer than put the extracted folder on the memory stick. From there, use "File Explorer" or "total commander" from your Xperia to browse through the folder and click the ".exe" Click it once. Even though it may seem it won't load, do NOT click on it again. Just go to the homescreen and wait a while. It will load eventually.
In my opinion, this isn't worth the trouble. It also adds 1500 tracks to the Media Panel... which totally ruins it.. but that is a different story.

whats best for gaming??