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Diamond Interface and Drivers

Well I would assume that you've already seen the new HTC Diamond.
Is anyone already working on porting that beautiful TouchFLO™ 3D interface?
(I would assume that it is possible since it's just running on top of WM6.1 although I know that it would be difficult since it's for VGA and requires some meaty hardware)
Is it possible to get the Video Drivers of this device's Qualcomm® MSM7201A™ 528 MHz to be used on our MSM7x00 devices?
(I'm sorry if some people get's pissed about hearing this hopeless idea again, but I just had to ask, you know )
Thanks.

Anything's possible, though by the time it hits, a lot of people would have gotten other devices or just have bought the Diamond/Raphael.
--James

The TouchFlo 3d has already been adapted (slightly) but at the moment very few devices have the processor power and the screen size (VGA) for it to work. (Try a search for "manilla")
The video drivers may be possible, but a ROM dump would be needed and AFAIK, that hasn't happened yet...

A Diamond rom dump would be nice to look through to compare with the KS20 dump. But, I haven't been able to find a imate9502 dump from anybody yet, so it's not really helping... Best I got was the 9502 ahi2dati.dll which is about identical to the KS20 one.
I do have a fully ported ahi2dati.dll (you can do some egl* calls such as eglSwapBuffers(), glFlush(), etc) for the Kaiser but there's some spinlocks that I don't understand. It would be nice to get a reference ATI-using WM6.1 DDI.dll to hook up to it and then see what other subsystems haven't been properly ported.
Currently, I've got some of the KS20 TrsTai_extension.dll calls (pm_vid_en()) almost patched in.
Anybody got a handle on what smem.dll does?

Manila 3D about to work on BA?

Tried the latest cab from here:
Update 11: Direct from Chainfire:
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TF3D QVGA - Release #2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430718
Prior to installing the cab, I unzipped the OpenGL ES software drivers from here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=121298&d=1223892257
...to the \WINDOWS directory.
The results: TF3D-QVGA installed in probably 10 minutes. Very slow progress at the beginning, but when the bar hit the 50% mark, installation was completed just after one or two more minutes. Startup time of TF3D is quite good, too. Takes about a minute to fire up. The drawbacks: The software 3D driver seems broken on the BA. No textures, but all white surfaces. One can see, though, that the shapes are rendered correctly. The clock on the Home tab flips correctly, messages on the Mail tabs fly in and out like they should etc. Unfortunately rendering is a tad slow, too. Not very smooth, yet no stills either. One can see the animations, but even if the textures were okay, it would be too slow to really enjoy.
Does anyone have an idea where to find suitable OpenGL ES software drivers for the BA?
Cheers.

which rom are you using ?
on my rom installing takes 30min and startup after soft resett takes 30 min, too.
i also get the white textures.

The "old" Helmi WM6 with German language files, which is really a fantastic ROM (always came back to it). Btw, when I tried TF3D, I already had loaded all kinds of stuff on my device (only about 15MB of internal memory free), so I'm really not talking about a virgin install, either.

BA was never designed for 3D graphic the first place, if you guys really like Manilla interface, I strongly suggest try out the Manilla 2D. just an idea.

imatrix said:
BA was never designed for 3D graphic the first place, if you guys really like Manilla interface, I strongly suggest try out the Manilla 2D. just an idea.
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I know, I know. M2D is great, but I miss the opportunity to view multiple appointments on the home tab.

Tony Hawk accelerated running full speed at Xperia X1

I have just managed to work THPS2 accelerated working at full speed on our's X1 So what you need to do?
1. Get Software version of THPS2
2. Get libgles_cl.dll file from this kaiser theard http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415523 and copy it into \Windows directory (unpacked of course)
3. Open directory where you have installed THPS2 and delete orginall file libgles_cl.dll from this directory
4. Edit file TH2_OPT.CFG :
- set RESOLUTION=640x480
- set Quality=High
Save file and close.
5. Run THPS2.exe or THPS2 shortcut in Games and enjoy!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UjgJ2q07WU

Do you also got it to display the IN-game grafics full screen `?
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Update:
Dont mind. Got it to work

WoW it looks great but is it good playable??
but that it runs good nice one

Yes, it is really nice playable.

ell82 said:
Yes, it is really nice playable.
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ok i will give it a try i played it few years ago

Very nice, just tested it out, works very smoothly, full screen, full speed and the screen rotates to the correct orientation once the HW keyboard is opened.
Using the same file and method you can get Quake mobile to start but it crashes once it starts to load the game files. Any Ideas?

ell82 said:
I have just managed to work THPS2 accelerated working at full speed on our's X1 So what you need to do?
1. Get Software version of THPS2
2. Get libgles_cl.dll file from this kaiser theard http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415523 and copy it into \Windows directory (unpacked of course)
3. Open directory where you have installed THPS2 and delete orginall file libgles_cl.dll from this directory
4. Edit file TH2_OPT.CFG :
- set RESOLUTION=640x480
- set Quality=High
Save file and close.
5. Run THPS2.exe or THPS2 shortcut in Games and enjoy!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UjgJ2q07WU
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Is this file " libgles_cl.dll " an alternative display driver for the X1, does it give any video and performance increases on any other programs you have tested ?

Mark A Cilenti said:
Is this file " libgles_cl.dll " an alternative display driver for the X1, does it give any video and performance increases on any other programs you have tested ?
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Yes, I have also managed to run Quake III Arena accelerated version (I have problems with texturing yet, but it maybe problem of config file), and software version with more fps (from 7-8 to 14-15). Also DoomGLES is working now but it is not visable ok on the screen (the screen is moved but I have tested only Doom 1 for now).

where to get software version??

I love it when things keep getting better
<3 the X1
Though, is this really full speed? Is the speed the same on the x51v, how do the gpus compare? And is it the gpu or the cpu slowing it down, could maybe overclocking the cpu give me a speed boost? Anyway it's cool you can map the game to the keyboard aswell. Lovely PC ports
By the way, how about the accelerated version of Stuntcar Extreme, does it work too?

Mark A Cilenti said:
Is this file " libgles_cl.dll " an alternative display driver for the X1, does it give any video and performance increases on any other programs you have tested ?
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Why don't you spend some time to read the thread first?
Added a forwarder to remap hardcoded CL calls to the Imageon CM dll
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In others words, it's a wrapper driver to forward calls to our X1's native API to enable hardware accelation on some games.
BTW, I found X1 is even smoother than my x51v in the game play.

jackleung said:
BTW, I found X1 is even smoother than my x51v in the game play.
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That's interesting as I did the GLES benchmark and ended up with measly 880 points in WVGA and around 990 in VGA while the x51v supposedly gets around 1200. I've even seen someone getting 1290 with a diamond, is such low score normal for the X1 or is there a way to improve it?
ell82 said:
Also DoomGLES is working now but it is not visable ok on the screen (the screen is moved but I have tested only Doom 1 for now).
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I've tried DoomGLES but all I get is a white and then black screen. D=

Dutty came up with the following, the ati cab works faster for me in somethings.
Alas I don't have tony hawks to test it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3059269&postcount=3

fards said:
Dutty came up with the following, the ati cab works faster for me in somethings.
Alas I don't have tony hawks to test it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3059269&postcount=3
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I don't have THPS2 software either. I was able to get the accelerated version, but it does not work well as there are no textures in the skate parks. I think there is a software AND hardware version of THPS2, and even when I set the hardware version to use software rendering, it will not load the level.
Would be great to get a test version of THPS2 software/unaccelerated, but alas, WAREZ ARE NOT ALLOWED!
I'm also quite interested in Dutty's new D3D drivers. I don't suppose there is a chance that they will wreck my X1, as it looks like you can uninstall them easily. Also, when deleting a file from \Windows, if that file was in ROM, it should reappear correct? (i.e. I delete the Dutty files that were copied to \Windows, and the originals should take their place)

scar45 said:
I'm also quite interested in Dutty's new D3D drivers. I don't suppose there is a chance that they will wreck my X1, as it looks like you can uninstall them easily. Also, when deleting a file from \Windows, if that file was in ROM, it should reappear correct? (i.e. I delete the Dutty files that were copied to \Windows, and the originals should take their place)
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ive not seen any downsides to these drivers yet.
yes if you "overwrite" a file in rom ghe original remains, so as long as you can delete the replacement then the system will go back to using the original

thank you very much

I'd love to have GTA 1 or better 2 on my phone. Perhaps some modded Controls would be great . Any suggestions?
(Both Freeware btw )

how can i cofigure the controls?? or can you send me your TH2_OPT.CFG file please

Dadaism said:
I'd love to have GTA 1 or better 2 on my phone. . . . . (Both Freeware btw )
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Freeware is something totally different from open-source.
So, my suggestion: dream on .

Is it possible to adjust the left/right/up/down function to the optical joystick instead of pressing the buttons?
I got problems with the paint peeling off from the buttons! Played too much ;o)

Quake 3 CE on htc hd

I have found this post :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433595
It works on htc diamond so is it possible to make it work on htc hd ?
When I start quake I have this message :
'q3ce' is not a valid Pocket PC application.
help please

Hmm... and if you sucess...
How are you gonna control without a D-Pad ?

maybe we will control with G pad ...

Exactly...
Just assign the D-PAD to the G-Sensor. Should work nicely.

phoenix117 said:
maybe we will control with G pad ...
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What's about the WVGAFix + D-Pad Project.... I hope it's not dead

yes, it should be nice
I hope that someone will find the solution to work on hd

Whats this DPAD / GPAD ? I want to play Age of Empires and it runs except needs a control pad!

Nighthawk2050 said:
Whats this DPAD / GPAD ? I want to play Age of Empires and it runs except needs a control pad!
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Just search...
First hit after searching for G-Pad

I did not find any application that works to use a pad with G sensor
to play Age of Empires, you can use the minimap, it is a bit boring but it is playable
Nobody has a solution for quake 3 ?

Will a bluetooth keyboard work?

yes I think but it should first be able to launch quake 3 on htc hd

Well, the game boots on my Touch HD just fine.
Allows me to configure parameters, choose player (it displays the 3D models correctly), and everything seems smooth.
When I try to start the first level, it loads it up and immediately dumps me back to the opening screen, without any error message. It did the same both with GL Extensions enabled and disabled in the options screen.
That's as far as I got.

where do you download quake 3 ?
how do you install it ?
can you add q3ce.exe to this post please ?

seconded......

I managed to run Quake 3 CE on htc hd
it runs with 7 FPS
the max I could have is 12 FPS

with or without d3d drivers?

I have tried with and without d3d drivers
I think it is the same
but I have followed this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=460006
and it really is faster and more responsive not in quake 3, a little in quake 3 but especially in general

I can run Q3 but about 5fps what aint good. Pity it would rock in multiplayer !
But out of ten roms tested recently, not many loaded it up at all. Present rom works.
Phoenix that is pretty good. In my case my hardware holds me back.

Enhanced D3D Driver

Here is an Enhanced D3D Driver for our Touch Pro2. Before you install driver run the D3DDemo file from your phone. Extract D3DMDemo.exe and copy it anywhere on your phone (Storage Card is good). Run it and see how slow it runs with the default D3D Driver. Then install At0mAng Enhanced D3D Driver.cab, restart and run the D3DMDemo again and see the difference
Enjoy!
Just to make things clear. I did not develop the driver, it was from the Samsung Omnia and the libgles_CL.dll comes from NuShrike. I have been using it since my TyTN II days, gave it a shot on the Rhodium and it worked. I did not see it in this forum so I cabbed it up (was OEM in my kitchen) and posted it.
The cab file contains two dlls both from the D3DM driver and the correct registry settings for d3dm_ati.dll.
To learn more about this driver and to try newer releases please see this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496528
There have been a few reports that the drivers from above thread break a couple of things like the G-Sensor with Opera so I am posting back the original file I had up. Strange since I do not have that problem with the latest drivers from the above thread.
It's up to you to decide which drivers you would like to use.

Rocks!
TF3D is realy faster.

walter79 said:
Rocks!
TF3D is realy faster.
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Cool...glad it is working on other devices.
Been using this driver since the TyTN II then to Raphael and now on to Rhodium Not sure if it is a good or bad thing that the same driver works on the last 3 devices I have...

Wow! It really worked and the M3D really is faster!
Cheers mate!
-ilari

On the Telus (MSM7600) it went from 0.85 ish FPS to a smooth test. Very dramatic change

Same for me here too

is it really faster?
does it mean, that the video-playback is also better?

TF3D is using OpenGL ES or Direct3D? If it's written for OpenGL ES the new drivers should not have any impact over it. It's only my opinion.
Any ideas?

Just to let you know I also went from 0.75 FPS to about 25 FPS.
Crazy change, just don't notice much difference in TF3D.

what's the difference between this and neo's beta 3d driver pack?

snek_one said:
Just to let you know I also went from 0.75 FPS to about 25 FPS.
Crazy change, just don't notice much difference in TF3D.
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Same opinion. But I cannot see fps in the demo after installing the new driver.
The increase in fps is recognizible high in the demo. The object first is absolutely stuck without the driver. With the driver installed it runs fluidly.

in this demo I have a big boost with this driver !!
Whith games work with that driver? My old quake dont work on my TP2

Will this work on MSM 7201 chipset as well? I don't want to make hardreset again if something will going wrong on my TP1. Thanks.
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Nevermind,I tried it. Unfortunately no visible change happens on Raphael.

No Change
It made no difference on my Touch Pro 1

I installed it on Touch Pro2 and test runs a lot faster. And also TouchFLO 3D runs more smoothly. I don't know why, but it's really faster. I think TF3D2 uses OpenGL-ES and Direct3D driver can't change it's performance.

TomasNM said:
Will this work on MSM 7201 chipset as well? I don't want to make hardreset again if something will going wrong on my TP1. Thanks.
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Nevermind,I tried it. Unfortunately no visible change happens on Raphael.
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Strange I thought it should so I have been using it with my TP1. I never did try the demo though to see if it actually worked.

great great work At0mAng
i have tested in my HD and workly very very well

Difference in the Demo is quite noticeable.
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will this driver accelerate need for speed undercover or xtrakt as well?

Seems to work awsome. Thanks.