I was playing with my phone today and was thinking. Bad. Bad things happen when I think.
How hard would it be to create a program that uses the phone's camera as the background? In essence, making the phone "invisible" in that you can see things behind it while still staring intently at the screen.
Just wondering. It's useless, and probably will kill the battery faster than streaming youtube at full brightness while using the phone to calculate the cure for cancer. But I think it would be a great conversation piece.
it sounds like a cool idea... have the background of the today screen as the camera and over that icons... drains battery but could use it for a few min /day just for the heck of it
Eh?
I may be missing something here, but how would that work? Most of the time I use my phone it is either in my hand or flat on a desk - either way the very best you would see is a blurry mass and most of the time you would see only black.
Besides, how is this making the phone 'invisible'?
Have I lost my child-like sense of wonder...??
It'd be a show piece. Not for full-time use.
And it would be "invisible" because it would display whatever is on the other side, giving the illusion of nothing being in the middle.
iphone people had a competition to see who would have the best hidden iphone. Very fun.
like this, but with 100% less blue screen editing, and 100% more on-the-fly image placement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_3PLHRr50Q&feature=related
http://www.flickr.com/photos/w00kie/sets/180637/ Here is an example of some static photos on desktops
This guy had an interesting idea...
http://marocain.deviantart.com/art/My-transparent-PDA-Screen-71039673
why not just start your camera and hide OSD infos
Please don't do anything with this idea. People all over the world will lose their phones and never find them again!
Well, we would have several problems :
- first the camera is not really displaying what we want. It's zoomed, just because the camera is not where we are. This means there is an "offset" between what we would see if it was really invisible, and what the camera shows.
- second, we would need some kind of head tracking. Because we would need the pocket pc to display what's around it according to our "angle of view". To do so, we would also need a camera able to move. And then, we would need a program that distorts the image according to our position.
So, it sounds to me like it's not impossible, but quite hard, especially to have it working "on the fly".
I hope you understand what I mean.
Anyway, I would love to have such a feature on my phone !
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It's zoomed, just because the camera is not where we are.
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And it will never be
regaurdless to say even if the phone displayes what is in the back of it to make it look camo it would stil have the phone body it self... so i woudlnt really so mch
Did somebody watch Predator recently?
I would like a program that could use the front camera as a mirror. Or does it exist already? Would be great to see on the bus to work in the morning, that you don't have toothpaste in your face
Gonzo - not in the last 4 years or so.
As for hiding osd in the camera... would be alright, but I want be able to click things in my spb today plugin.
this is kind of on the same lines as that internet fad years ago where people would take a picture of the background behind their laptop and put it as their desktop background on the laptop.. then take a picture of the whole effect.. in essence, a see through desktop
Nokia has concept phone which is bendable foldable changes color to match the surrounding. I looked like cool idea its conceptual, supposed to be made of an organic material and use organic components. I saw a clip on their sight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX-gTobCJHs
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Well, we would have several problems :
- first the camera is not really displaying what we want. It's zoomed, just because the camera is not where we are. This means there is an "offset" between what we would see if it was really invisible, and what the camera shows.
- second, we would need some kind of head tracking. Because we would need the pocket pc to display what's around it according to our "angle of view". To do so, we would also need a camera able to move. And then, we would need a program that distorts the image according to our position.
So, it sounds to me like it's not impossible, but quite hard, especially to have it working "on the fly".
I hope you understand what I mean.
Anyway, I would love to have such a feature on my phone !
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You got the point. And more importantly, after getting everything OK, you will find no one is cheated. You just fool yourself!
rhov23 said:
I would like a program that could use the front camera as a mirror. Or does it exist already? Would be great to see on the bus to work in the morning, that you don't have toothpaste in your face
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well, same thing here, just start your front camera
Same concept
Well when I read this thread, Predator was the first thing to come to mind. Anybody see these videos with the "invisible" jackets. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFGo6kCmf38
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Has anyone thought about linking the screen orentation to VueFLO so it automatically changes depending on the orientaiton of the device? Is this possible? I would certainly be interested
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Has anyone thought about linking the screen orentation to VueFLO so it automatically changes depending on the orientaiton of the device? Is this possible? I would certainly be interested
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Good Idea!
would LOVE to see that....
Would VueFLO be able to tell the difference between tilting the device to the left (when in landscape) and rotating it into portrait?
A really REALLY cool idea though
Less talk and more results !!!
This would be truly a great app to have on the advantage. Anyone out there willing to build this app for us, it would be appreciated to the entire forum.
is it possible....and if so..how..?? doesnt VueFlo..uses manual buttons..can any1 care to explain if its possible or not..buh if it is..then it wud be great
i would to wite a programe for VueFlo on athena but i can't find any way for connect to VueFlo
i would write the programe for a thing like anti thief
it mean for example if i take athena on the table and turn the programe on, then if someone takeit, it play a sound and ...
i hope you can underestand my post
sorry for my bad English
Arya said:
i would to wite a programe for VueFlo on athena but i can't find any way for connect to VueFlo
i would write the programe for a thing like anti thief
it mean for example if i take athena on the table and turn the programe on, then if someone takeit, it play a sound and ...
i hope you can underestand my post
sorry for my bad English
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Eybi nadare dadash.. Your english is just fine...
And that sounds like a great idea... look, i do some xcode programming for iphone and being a close plathform i feel you can do more on that then Athena. dont get me wrong i love my Athena and i wouldnt change it but i think it is capable of so much more ... i broke my x7500 and got iphone and wasnt doin it so i got another athena. i use the both and i love my athena more than i phone....
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Eybi nadare dadash.. Your english is just fine...
And that sounds like a great idea... look, i do some xcode programming for iphone and being a close plathform i feel you can do more on that then Athena. dont get me wrong i love my Athena and i wouldnt change it but i think it is capable of so much more ... i broke my x7500 and got iphone and wasnt doin it so i got another athena. i use the both and i love my athena more than i phone....
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you learn persian
eyval eman jan, pas irani hasti
thanks
i think athena is very better and i love my athena and don't change it with any other
but there's some small problem on it, like phone call sound recording and some other...
tanX for your answer and sorry for my english too
So is anyone actually create this program, or are they going to bull**** about how cool it is, and easy to make ......
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So is anyone actually create this program, or are they going to bull**** about how cool it is, and easy to make ......
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well i guess you could just always do it
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well i guess you could just always do it
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Believe me, If I could, I would.
Some coding god needs to reverse engineer to vueflo apps to work out how the hardware is accessed. After that, any coder can do it just like the iphone/ipod people are all making stuff that uses the accelerometer in them.
Its not an easy task. We need somebody in HTC to leak the details really.
Arya, so you were never able to fix your phone call recording problem? The built-in recorder handles it, I forget now why you were still having a problem. Off-topic, I know, discuss on the original thread.
On-topic, the motion sensor on the hard drive is just that... a motion sensor. Not an orientation sensor (like mercury switches are). Just turning the unit on its side won't let the OS know its now on its side, however, by adding some kind of motion code it will work just fine. Like shaking it twice downward in the direction you want to be down. Shaking it once would produce too many false changes, but twice or maybe 3 times would send the right message.
This type of phone input has been in the news a lot lately, along with vibration as a feedback. The idea on the news is you would shake your phone to see if you have any messages waiting, and it would vibrate back if you do. Unfortunately since the Athena doesn't have a vibration motor the output part isn't possible, but the input part is, since it has the motion sensors already! (the lack of vibration is one of the top-5 flaws of this device, IMO, hopefully it will get added on the X7502)
So, taking the topic of this thread one step further, how about creating an application that launches apps based on motion input? Yes I know there is a program out there that lets you reprogram most of the function buttons to do this (I forget its name at the moment, I haven't bought it yet), but adding motion to this mix would be so much cooler!
shake it baby?
these ideas seam very good but sahaking it multiple times and to open programs seams like it may cause problems because our device is just tooo big, imagine to shake or rotate ur device a specific way to get pie running (maybe it could be shaken to the rythem of ur favourite song (which has to be the Smashing Pumpkins..) and it shakes out of your hand on to the concrete pavement below wooops!!! just imagine the insurance form for that
Well, the unit's motion sensitivity is quite high. Easily confirmed by changing the viewflo sensitivity to high and then gently tilting the unit when you are in a browser. You wouldn't have to create martinis or milkshakes to launch an app, just a gentle flick or two will do. A downside of all this is carrying it around would present problems (either on your belt or in your hand). Even if you ignore the g-sensors when the cover is on, the cover-on switch is so faulty you might get to work and find that you wired $150 Euros to the Red Cross and sent all your checking account information to some guy in Nigeria.
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Arya, so you were never able to fix your phone call recording problem? The built-in recorder handles it, I forget now why you were still having a problem. Off-topic, I know, discuss on the original thread.
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i can't record call when i talk with handsfree
only when i used load speacker it record, but on load speack can't talk good, and call quality is not good!!
I try some of software that the friends tell me, but nothing not work
this is the Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=346126
tanX
apd said:
Has anyone thought about linking the screen orentation to VueFLO so it automatically changes depending on the orientaiton of the device? Is this possible? I would certainly be interested
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why did i just know someone would suggest this. hahaha prolly cause i thought that too! hahaha
1 reason of many i can think of is Iphone look alike
Hi, i'm interested in an iphone-like app too.
I still can't understand why HTC inserted a hardware which can handle with orientation, and then it's only possible to use scolling in PIE or Opera.
Why not Scrolling in PIE AND Opera. I love this feature, and want it always and for other apps too, like Rotate Screen automaticly, skip music file or backwards in WMP, Forward/backward in PIE/Opera when moved left/right.
I don't unterstand this. The difficult part is the integration of hardware, and HTC didn't develop a simple app which makes the hardware really do what it is supposed to do.
I even don't believe they added the G-Sensor for the Microdrive.
nothing new?
even with the new softwares incluede in devices such as Omnia or Diamond?
Here is a "Snow Dome" type of application. Completely useless, but it was fun for programming. Try using it 2 days in a row
Watch this space for enhancements over time.
- Changed the speed
All new version on 22 Sep 2008
This has been a complete rewrite of the SnowStorm application and it was a good learning school !
Despite the complexity of the algorithm, I think the response times are very acceptable. If you like to count the number of snowflakes: there are 200 of them and each of them is updated every 40 ms !
I am really impressed with the 3D capabilities of the Diamond !
Using the OpenGLES SDK to create a "pseudo" 3D layout.
- Snowflakes will be larger in the front then in the back.
- If the PDA is laying horizontal, snowflakes will "disappear" to the back-end or stay on the front after a while
- Pseudo horizon, fixed at about 50% of the screen.
- Simple graphics, trees are placed randomly, snowman is fixed
- Simple turbulence (any pointers to good algorithms are appreciated)
- Snowflakes disappear behind trees/snowman, depending on their position in space. They will travel through them however
- Simple collision detection, only sides of the "frustum" are checked, as well as the artificial floor.
Click on the top part to be asked to quit the program. Click on the lower (25%) of the screen to restart it.
Expect some other enhancements over time too.
Needs CF 3.5 !
Important:
If you like my applications and want to donate, consider a donation to Koushik.
After all it is thanks to his (and the many other developers) work and readiness to share it that I can write these programs. I (currently) still get enough satisfaction in writing these programs.
lol... cool ... totally useless!
But I think It should react more when u shake it..!?
NisseDILLIGAF said:
lol... cool ... totally useless!
But I think It should react more when u shake it..!?
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..xmas is just around the corner ;-). And tomorrow I'll go on summer holiday! 3 weeks no xda dev....uff
Really a cool apps!
haha
totally random
but useless
well at least ill show off my friends i have a digital snowstorm ball
i wonder if you can put it as a wallpaper
so when you are in the 'home' tab and move the phone it snow
Without words.......
But wit an enormous grin!!!!!!!!!!!
Video here.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=723
Nice, but way too slow. The flakes should also move faster when the movement is more violent.
Thx
Surur
how about a flying santa when you shake it ?
.net compact framework
.net compact framework needed, where can i get the latest version for my diamond?
Totally useless, but...........very cool.
Only a question. I've installed your cab but I've obtained only the second image that you've posted not the first. Is there a way to pass from one image to another ?
Thanks
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unvisigoth said:
Totally useless, but...........very cool.
Only a question. I've installed your cab but I've obtained only the second image that you've posted not the first. Is there a way to pass from one image to another ?
Thanks
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Currently there is no way to change the images, I just display one each day
So to answer your question: wait for a day
BTW, working on a new openGL based version that might react faster and more realistic
- Also thinking about user selected pictures, so you can insert anything you like.
- Anybody thinks that having sound is a good idea ?
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- Anybody thinks that having sound is a good idea ?
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Definitely little jingle bells
Surur
Jingle Bells
Send me a wave or mp3 with some jingle bells and I'll do my best. I'll make sure you have it before Xmas.
cgeboers said:
Currently there is no way to change the images, I just display one each day
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- Also thinking about user selected pictures, so you can insert anything you like.
- Anybody thinks that having sound is a good idea ?
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This could be big... Xperia X1's Fish tank big..., maybe we could use this as a screensaver or as an unlock screen of some kind....
Maybe we should be able to change not only the picture on the background but the color and size on the snowflakes as well, so it won't be just a christmas thing...
Also, maybe you should also put some interactive water in the ball... as for sound? It's not really necessary i think...
Good job btw! Thanks...
What version of .net do I need? My Diamond gives me errors that .net is missing?
.NET CF 3.5
Admiral_Thrawn said:
What version of .net do I need? My Diamond gives me errors that .net is missing?
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I use .NET CF 3.5 for most of my applications. It comes with the ROM image I installed, but it is also downloadable for free from Microsoft. Have a look in this forum, there are several pointers to it. (Sorry, that I can not be more helpful)
I know the speed doesnt need to be turbo cuz the snowflkes are in the fluid (water, etc..) but having this in mind, the movement is still toooooo slow.. Same with the beer application.. Can it be more faster? Take a look here: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CEBtJG3pFhI
Cool! Thank you!
cool application for xmas
i do have a suggestion though
i would assume that the large amount of snowflakes caused the slow down..i think you should have about 50 snowflakes at most (maybe slightly bigger if necessary)..200 makes it a bit too clustered
cool good job
Wow I am made up to see this, I don't know why I didn't see it before, I think it may even have been my idea once, so thanks a lot for making it real.
So many downloads awesome!
Edit: Had a play great, better than I thought, Looking forward to be able to run it with my own background image.
I am using the "ideas" section in the GSensor Apps thread as a guideline to write useful/useless applications. Instead of creating a thread for each small program I intend to reference the original idea/request here and display the application. Safes me from having to open a different thread
So here is the first one, based on this idea: Plane
Simple graphics, if you have better pictures, share them with me. I need top, bottom and side view of the plane. I can also use better sound files, I did not really look around for the best ones. And as usually improvements will be done and brought back here.
First improvement: used F22 picture from surur (see post below)
Usage: self-explaining
AH64d Lander
An other "Lunar Lander" clone, based on Apache Lander from the iPhone. Somebody did request this a while ago, so here is version 1, using C# and OpenGLES.
To start after a crash/landing, use options and the level you want to play. I fear however that the "Hard" level is almost impossible to play.
Options also allow you to use sound.
10-Sep-08: Fixed sound
Paper Airplane
A concept only application for the moment, but the goal is to replace the above "Airplane" with this OpenGL based application. For the moment it is only possible to look at the plane, sort of like a virtual hologram.
Usage:
Hold your PDA in landscape and turn it slowly around, tilting it over your head. You will be able to look at this paper plane from all sides.
Diamond Beer V2
A drinking tool, probably last update for a while.
Great idea! Looking forward to all the useful apps going to be posted here
Keep'em coming!
Thanx!
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Simple graphics, if you have better pictures, share them with me. I need top, bottom and side view of the plane.
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Great Idea your airplane!!
Surur: Your airplane is beautiful
great idea for the app list but..... why don't you make it on the wiki??
in this way also other peoples can add/update other sw& versions, and we will never stressed to follow day x day all the topics apps.
Also, i've read about the "cubes"
If you can do something with cubes, why don't do it for "Cubes app" like the iphone one?
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great idea for the app list but..... why don't you make it on the wiki??
in this way also other peoples can add/update other sw& versions, and we will never stressed to follow day x day all the topics apps.
Also, i've read about the "cubes"
If you can do something with cubes, why don't do it for "Cubes app" like the iphone one?
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I totally agree! You smart people with vast programming skills can't let the mac/iphone nerds have the lead in this area, right?
here is the example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugoq8M2XxVE
Wiki ?
SkizZO said:
great idea for the app list but..... why don't you make it on the wiki??
in this way also other peoples can add/update other sw& versions, and we will never stressed to follow day x day all the topics apps.
Also, i've read about the "cubes"
If you can do something with cubes, why don't do it for "Cubes app" like the iphone one?
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Maybe a stupid question, but what do you mean with putting it on the Wiki ?
Nice plane images
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Surur, thanks for the images, I will certainly incorporate them in the next version ! Could take a while, because I am going over the current apps again and try to improve them. It has been too long since I worked at the "Beer"
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Maybe a stupid question, but what do you mean with putting it on the Wiki ?
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Anyone can modify it
Lander: when I turn on sound it quits
Airplane I really dont know what it can do except sound which is same all the time ...maybe my fault
Sound fixed
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Lander: when I turn on sound it quits
Airplane I really dont know what it can do except sound which is same all the time ...maybe my fault
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Fixed the sound and uploaded the new version.
As for Airplane it is based on a request from somebody to have the plane. I did not fulfil his request yet completely. Next version will change sounds when you "dive" the plane or change directions abruptly.
The main goal is to demo that you can turn your PDA (in landscape mode) around the axis and the plane will show different sides.
Also the sound will only play as long as you move the plane in the air.
I guess it is great if you want to fly a toy plane anywhere you like, but don't want to drag it around
If you don't like to play with toy planes, it is useless indeed, but hey who says that all programs here need to be useful for everybody
Can anyone tell me where I can find this App! I would love to have this. it looks so cool!
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=5tiEji2sTyA&feature=related
-Mossmentum
Wow nice application man... i would love to hav it too but i see taht nobody posted any reponse to your request Hope we both have mor luck son.
Its fake sorry guys! he "made" it look like that with some type of photoshop program
I manage to get my phone to do something a little like that once.
I tried to take a photo with the sportsfunction and the cameraapplication shutted down, but the camera was still on.
So some colors where turned in to what the camera sees.
Its like in windows, if you try to take a screenshot of a movie, you'll only get a specific color, and thats the color windows use for mapping videos over.
I did'nt manage to find out what color that reacted as the camera mapping on the phone, but i know that it should be possible to find out.
So...basicaly-I have nearly decided to jump to WP7 for good.Im good with the battery life,i like the minimalistic feel and tile idea of the whole UI and there is one thing that i have cursed since the release...the nasty plain simple call screen ...with white letters on a black background ...or vice versa.Personaly i want to f**k up the screen with a knife,then run it over by a bus and then throw it in the sea all because that stupid layout.So my question is-What could be done with this issue?Could it be done like iPhone's green tinted while on call ,red while ending and with full screen contact picture?I have not,and can not look up trough the dump of the rom and couldnt know the structure and encription (if any).Because i just dont have the place and time to do it as im in constant movement due to my job.
This is just a discussion thread.I just want to know if this is managable.And maybe one day if it recieves enough views it may be done...
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Don't think it can be done - WP7 is rather more locked down than WM6.5.X and if it is done at all, I doubt it will be soon.
Personally I don't have a problem with it...it's a call screen
Agree, things sometimes get a little too minimalistic for my own taste.
However, as time goes by, more and more tweaks will come. Just observe Mr. Schaps´s work a bit (creator of TouchXPerience tools and mods), amazing stuff...
The thing is how hard because the PS3 was impenetrable,hack proof and things...look at it nowDont get me wrong i really like the option to change the style,speed,UI and feel of my device at will.And i may be asking for too much but for a person that is being noticed by strangers as a phone addict...the screen shows itself too much for me to bear Its interesting to hear other people's opinios on the matter as its one of the things that boogles me alot in the smarth-superphone world!
Also-do you know about an App like that for android where you can set your contact picture to appear full screen ?
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If the executables aren't obfuscated, isn't it possible to dissemble the .net applications so we can modify the call screen?
Even so, I think the problem will be allowing the executable to be patched...
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If the executables aren't obfuscated, isn't it possible to dissemble the .net applications so we can modify the call screen?
Even so, I think the problem will be allowing the executable to be patched...
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Pretty sure that`s impossible, we`re talking about Microsoft...
I just realised how many different defences they could have put in that OS.I tought making it would be easy...and it is but reaching the point where all defences are broken is where it will get nasty...but i dont know if such defences even exist ...