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System running on low storage?

Since i've had my Wizard, i've installed just about every single app on the storage card, but for some reason now when installing apps i keep getting a storage error, and that there is not enough space. My storage memoery say it has about 6mb free, which i guess is low, but i dont undertsand why this would be filling up?
I have tried to run a search on the large files, but these file are on the storage card? so i dont understand why the phone would complaining about this?
anyway to resolve this?

with some apps, you say to put it on the card but it still put some files on the PPc too, sorry there is no way around this, they just have to run part of it from the PPC

Don't forget that messages, attatchments and PIE cache take up space on the onboard storage, by default.

Thanks, i cleared the PIE cache which has made a big difference. Is there no software available that will tell us which apps are taking up so much space?

ump001 said:
Thanks, i cleared the PIE cache which has made a big difference. Is there no software available that will tell us which apps are taking up so much space?
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If you look here. This tweak program will let you store the IE cache on your storage card.
Also, in your email settings you can tell it to store attatchments on the storage card too.

ump001 said:
Thanks, i cleared the PIE cache which has made a big difference. Is there no software available that will tell us which apps are taking up so much space?
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I like stevenk68's reg cab myself. It's the very first thing I install on all my phones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46321&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
Steven
chow

AAAHHH!! Where's my memory?

Ugh! I bought a 4gb storage card. Every application I download, I save to this card yet. I'm down to 3MB of system storage memory. What can I do about this? I'm sick of clearing my storage once a month to be able to use this phone without the memory error popping up. Does anyone have any suggestions? Is there somethin I can do in my registry? I already have my emails and internet temporary files going to my storage card. What else can I do?

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1. Try another ROM-Are you still using the original rom it came with?
2. Make sure all you apps are closed - They usually just hide out open in the background.
3. Oxios Hibernate - I'm sure you can find a copy around here someplace. [Here ya go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374029]
4. Could be a memory leak. Certain programs have this effect on WM devices. {See 1.}

Also, remember that text messages take up room too. If you visit alot of websites, be sure to clear that also. I just cleared those 2 myself and I got like 5-6 MB free from just that.

clear temp storage even if it is on your card, it couldn't hurt. also delete keyboards that you installed unless you actually use them a lot because they take up a lot of room. move your ring tones to the SD card as they will still show up. update to the newest official ROM if you don't want to go to a custom, you'll get more memory with the new ROM but not much.

wyldstallyns2589 said:
...you'll get more memory with the new ROM but not much.
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That is very untrue. I rarely run out of memory with Just2Clean.

how is that untrue? i'm on the new stock rom and there is more available memory for storage and program than the stock rom i was on previously.

wyldstallyns2589 said:
how is that untrue? i'm on the new stock rom and there is more available memory for storage and program than the stock rom i was on previously.
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Sorry I misread your post but I thought you meant a new ROM in general not the Latest T-Mobile Update. Which is still way under performing compared to what the cooks generate here.

oh yeah, i had open tough 5.2 for like a day and it had so much more room after all my stuff was installed, it was insane, but it had some problems that i couldn't deal with so i went back to stock.

What sorta probs?
I found that most of/all the default apps on the Wing are total crap. I use very few applications. I just get my email, browse with opera mini, play solitaire, and listen to mp3's. Any more than that I expect the device to have issues to a degree. It only has a 201mhz processor it can't be expected to do much more.

it would scroll through lists randomly which was pretty annoying. you can't use jivetalk (now beejiveIM) on it. and there were issues with the original dialpad such as being damn ugly, fixed it with a skin but then it does it's scrolling thing when i'm trying to dial a number and then won't let me hit anymore numbers and i have to go out of the dialpad and go back in.

LesiRockGoddess said:
Ugh! I bought a 4gb storage card. Every application I download, I save to this card yet. I'm down to 3MB of system storage memory. What can I do about this? I'm sick of clearing my storage once a month to be able to use this phone without the memory error popping up. Does anyone have any suggestions? Is there somethin I can do in my registry? I already have my emails and internet temporary files going to my storage card. What else can I do?
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slow down, take a breath....
what rom are you running ???
try installing the cab file for moving IE storage to Storage Card.
on your messages settings save all attatchments to storage card.
there is a solution but you have to let us know whats going on!!!!

robpet2, i happened to stumble on the cab link you have, 'plenty of cabs'. Is there a way to get a quick explaination of some of theme? or possible screen shots? thanks

wookalicious said:
robpet2, i happened to stumble on the cab link you have, 'plenty of cabs'. Is there a way to get a quick explaination of some of theme? or possible screen shots? thanks
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haha... thats a good one.. cant do screenshots for all of them, just type in the name of the cab file in google with .cab at the end and do a search, they should all come up with descriptions.

I don't know what ROM I'm runnin. I don't even know what a ROM is. I look around these forums but no one explains, they just say use xyz cab. *shrugs* I'm totally lost

a rom is essentially the operating system that you use on your phone.
If you don't know what rom you're using, you're probably using the T-Mobile stock rom. We highly recommend flashing a custom rom from that POS.
To do that, you will need to use USPL or you will need to HardSPL your phone. Bear in mind that T-Mobile won't help you if they find a custom rom on your phone, but you can just flash back to the original before sending it in.
Read the USPL and HardSPL threads before taking any action

Thanx, Fzzym. You've given me somewhere to begin

LesiRockGoddess said:
Thanx, Fzzym. You've given me somewhere to begin
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and on your storage memory issue...delete your old mail and text/picture messages then empty your email and text and mms deleted items. also google maps installs and stores its cache in storage memory even if you tell it to install on your card. those are the 2 biggest apps that eat away at my storage memory, although with the open touch 4 lite rom, i usually have 21mb free.

LesiRockGoddess said:
Ugh! I bought a 4gb storage card. Every application I download, I save to this card yet. I'm down to 3MB of system storage memory. What can I do about this? I'm sick of clearing my storage once a month to be able to use this phone without the memory error popping up. Does anyone have any suggestions? Is there somethin I can do in my registry? I already have my emails and internet temporary files going to my storage card. What else can I do?
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It seems to me that you are experiencing the memory issues that every new T-Mobile Wing is faced with. It has to do with the default Page Pool size.
The easiest way around this problem is to do an upgrade of the new T-mobile software. You can find this at:
http://member.htc.com/RuuDownload/T-mobileUS/Filedownload.aspx?pid=wing
or you can change the pagepool size manually following the instructions at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313263
Good Luck

Cleaning main memory

Greetings everyone,
I'm new here and relatively newbish to HD2 (have it one month).
Id like to know what can I do to free some space on my device memory?
All tho I installed quite a lot of programs, I always installed them to storage card, so my guess is since device free memory is getting lower and lower
every time I check or install something, it's got to be some cache from Opera, google maps or programs maybe, temp. files from rar perhaps and similar.
So does anyone know for sure what can I delete in my device memory, in windows, etc and not damaging system...
Tried search but with no result...

i'd also like some advice on this too.....

memory depletion happens due:
- opera cache (\windows\opera9\profile\cache)
- IE mobile cache (\Windows\Profiles\Guest\cache)
- htc album cache (\application data\htc\htc album\cache) which is the greatest. i.e. if u have a alot of pics, then everytime you view them, ur album cache grows bigger and bigger and depletes memory.
My advice:
- install clear temp....it's free
- assign the custom folders in clear temp to the above folders.
clear ur cache with a press of a button. done

also everytime u install a program even if only to sd card, some files are installed on ur main memory. Only way to remove those minor files is by a hard reset. You can then assign shortcuts to ur sd card installed applications.

bradaman said:
Greetings everyone,
I'm new here and relatively newbish to HD2 (have it one month).
Id like to know what can I do to free some space on my device memory?
All tho I installed quite a lot of programs, I always installed them to storage card, so my guess is since device free memory is getting lower and lower
every time I check or install something, it's got to be some cache from Opera, google maps or programs maybe, temp. files from rar perhaps and similar.
So does anyone know for sure what can I delete in my device memory, in windows, etc and not damaging system...
Tried search but with no result...
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Put your apps on main mem and the phone will be more efficient in its overall use of phone RAM. Mem card installation does not save any RAM or really serve any logical purpose unless the app will not install to phone storage or you have used it all up.
Mem card installation slows the phone down and why on earth would you not use the main storage mem when thats what its there for?

russeini said:
also everytime u install a program even if only to sd card, some files are installed on ur main memory. Only way to remove those minor files is by a hard reset. You can then assign shortcuts to ur sd card installed applications.
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Are you getting main memory and RAM mixed up?
Anything in main memory (storage mem) does not use up RAM therefore has no effect on it.

bradaman said:
Greetings everyone,
I'm new here and relatively newbish to HD2 (have it one month).
Id like to know what can I do to free some space on my device memory?
All tho I installed quite a lot of programs, I always installed them to storage card, so my guess is since device free memory is getting lower and lower
every time I check or install something, it's got to be some cache from Opera, google maps or programs maybe, temp. files from rar perhaps and similar.
So does anyone know for sure what can I delete in my device memory, in windows, etc and not damaging system...
Tried search but with no result...
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I found moving Opera Cache and HTC Album Cache really helped me a lot with the memory.
This is a good thread that will help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600578&highlight=move+opera+cache
RReckless

See also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
Tip 67
AND
delete google maps from main mem and make a fresh install with newest version on SD-card. This will also enable compass-direction to google maps.
Move copilot to SD-card with Resco explorer

u can try nd move ur cache folders to sd card but it all needs registry editing tweaks nd it may end up not working as for htc album cache for ex. so easiest is using clear temp my friend.

troed said:
See also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
Tip 67
AND
delete google maps from main mem and make a fresh install with newest version on SD-card. This will also enable compass-direction to google maps.
Move copilot to SD-card with Resco explorer
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In the tips, where it mentions "moving" things to the SD card there is no "move" option so if the folder (eg "My Device\My documents\My Pictures
") is cut and pasted to the SD card will the OS/Phone know to redirect/look in the new location?

russeini said:
memory depletion happens due:
- opera cache (\windows\opera9\profile\cache)
- IE mobile cache (\Windows\Profiles\Guest\cache)
- htc album cache (\application data\htc\htc album\cache) which is the greatest. i.e. if u have a alot of pics, then everytime you view them, ur album cache grows bigger and bigger and depletes memory.
My advice:
- install clear temp....it's free
- assign the custom folders in clear temp to the above folders.
clear ur cache with a press of a button. done
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nice little app, cheers for that......

pa49 said:
Are you getting main memory and RAM mixed up?
Anything in main memory (storage mem) does not use up RAM therefore has no effect on it.
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Of course not, I have some (I'll say advanced) knowledge in computers so I dont mix up some basic terms like this . I was thinking of Device memory (storage) not RAM. Since this windows mobile thing is relatively new to me, I wanted to know if deleting cache and temp. files does effect WM and Sense stability....
russeini said:
memory depletion happens due:
- opera cache (\windows\opera9\profile\cache)
- IE mobile cache (\Windows\Profiles\Guest\cache)
- htc album cache (\application data\htc\htc album\cache).
My advice:
- install clear temp....it's free
- assign the custom folders in clear temp to the above folders.
clear ur cache with a press of a button. done
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Thank you for this mate, just the thing I was looking for...
Oh, and one more question, I tend to switch themes made with HDWall frequently so when I install new theme, replacing old one, does it completely overwrite last one or I have enormous buildup of unused theme files on device memory?

russeini said:
memory depletion happens due:
- opera cache (\windows\opera9\profile\cache)
- IE mobile cache (\Windows\Profiles\Guest\cache)
- htc album cache (\application data\htc\htc album\cache) which is the greatest. i.e. if u have a alot of pics, then everytime you view them, ur album cache grows bigger and bigger and depletes memory.
My advice:
- install clear temp....it's free
- assign the custom folders in clear temp to the above folders.
clear ur cache with a press of a button. done
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I was a big fan of cleartemp but did not install it on the hd2 because I read on this forum somewhere that it not only wiped the phone's memory clean but also formatted the storage card!

bradaman said:
Of course not, I have some (I'll say advanced) knowledge in computers so I dont mix up some basic terms like this . I was thinking of Device memory (storage) not RAM. Since this windows mobile thing is relatively new to me, I wanted to know if deleting cache and temp. files does effect WM and Sense stability....
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OK
Just checking, because it's a common misconception about memory usage.
A lot of users think that installing on mem card will save RAM!?
Anf they think a lot of other eroneous things as well!

laguna33p said:
I was a big fan of cleartemp but did not install it on the hd2 because I read on this forum somewhere that it not only wiped the phone's memory clean but also formatted the storage card!
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works fine on my hd2.....

How can I get more internal storage?

I've moved all my apps th at I can to the SDCard but I'm still low on storage.
Nexus One running CM6 RC2

You can't "get more internal storage". Try deleting some stuff though to free up more space, your one and only solution

cymru said:
You can't "get more internal storage". Try deleting some stuff though to free up more space, your one and only solution
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Yea that's what I meant. Wasn't there something where you could move the dalvik cache to the SD card to free up lot of space?

Hmm yeah but moving the Cache to a slow Storage Card basically defeats the point of having cache.... Also I know a few people who have done it have ended up with unstable phones.
It would free up alot of space but its whether you wanna risk having to hardreset your phone if all goes tits up
Here is the Cyanogen How-To on moving the dalvik cache, im not sure how up to date it is though -->
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Dalvik-cache-relocation

google earth installed? at 20+mb maybe remove it (until it's able to be moved to SD card), you got maps anyway

jojoatt said:
google earth installed? at 20+mb maybe remove it (until it's able to be moved to SD card), you got maps anyway
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I got google earth on the SD card.

I found my web browser eating a ton of data that it stores. If you clear it fully, it frees up around 10mb or more, depending on how long since you did it last, but be careful. It's very possible to delete your bookmarks and other important data depending on how you delete it.

iVisionX01 said:
I got google earth on the SD card.
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Using Froyo's method? That moves like 4M of 20M for Google Earth.
If you want more space, you'll want to use the old apps2sd method, which moves EVERYTHING.

khaytsus said:
Using Froyo's method? That moves like 4M of 20M for Google Earth.
If you want more space, you'll want to use the old apps2sd method, which moves EVERYTHING.
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Oh I see. If I were to use the old method then tried restoring my apps would they automatically reinstall even if I wiped the ext2/3/4 partition?

[Q] Where's My Phone Memory Gone?

Like a lot of people, I would imagine, I have a constant battle to try and fit all of the apps that I want on my phone memory. There are a whole heap of apps already that I would like that I have had to delete already.
My phone memory was down to 2MB and I really want to add Skype to it now that has been launched. Knowing that I would never fit it on unless I deleted something, I decided to remove my greediest app, Documents to Go, which is also around 8.5MB - the same as Skype.
I deleted it, checked how much memory I had left, expecting there to now be 10.5MB, but found that it is still telling me that I only have 2MB left.
I have tried everything to try and find where the missing memory has gone - the app has definitely been removed from my phone.
Any ideas why I still don't have more than 2MB of memory after this?

Wipe cache.

Try to delete cache of all applications and then reboot the phone

I have gone through the caches of all of the apps that I can access and cleared them. This brings it up to 4MB, but it is still far short of the 8.5MB that I thought that I would have gained by deleting Documents to Go (which I never got around to using anyway).
I guess I really should wipe the thing and start again after downloading and deleting so many apps, but it will be a major pain to set everything up the way I like it.
Roll on Froyo when I can download apps onto the SD card, which should solve the problem once and for all.

nickpendrell said:
I have gone through the caches of all of the apps that I can access and cleared them. This brings it up to 4MB, but it is still far short of the 8.5MB that I thought that I would have gained by deleting Documents to Go (which I never got around to using anyway).
I guess I really should wipe the thing and start again after downloading and deleting so many apps, but it will be a major pain to set everything up the way I like it.
Roll on Froyo when I can download apps onto the SD card, which should solve the problem once and for all.
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Is your phone rooted? If yes, go to recovery and wipe cache and dalvik-cache.

rajasyaitan said:
Is your phone rooted? If yes, go to recovery and wipe cache and dalvik-cache.
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No, it's not rooted. I looked at the process of rooting and it looks terrifying and complicated!
If it was rooted, then I know I could just install apps onto the SD card and then the problem would be solved immediately.
If Froyo doesn't get released for Legend soon though, I think I will have to try and root it though as this memory problem is really starting to drive me insane.