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Hi all,
I have Qtek s100 since exactly 2 years. I am very happy and even after relasing so many HTC PDA phones after that, I really did not think of changing my phone. Now I see P3600 as probable candidate to replace my S100. But in addition to size and processor, I would also be looking at some key features as justification to change. I am not going to use 3G or 2MP camera. so, lets narrow down to Free/very cheap phone function on this phone.
- anybody tried to install Skype client to make audio calls on wifi connection?
- Also anybody checked function of SIP voip client like SJPhone again using wifi?
If these features are going to have problem with.. I would still stay back with S100 happily.
AS
Skype works fine on it and I run VoIPSurfer for SIP without any problems!
Anyone can get skype sound to come trough the phone speaker instead of the loudspeaker? (I think it is a software limitation, but is there a workarround?)
n0t said:
Anyone can get skype sound to come trough the phone speaker instead of the loudspeaker? (I think it is a software limitation, but is there a workarround?)
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This is only available on the Eten X500. I finally decided to get this instead of the Trinity coz I dun use the 3G and the GPS is a lot better on the X500.
n0t said:
Anyone can get skype sound to come trough the phone speaker instead of the loudspeaker? (I think it is a software limitation, but is there a workarround?)
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It is a limitation in Skype. Try using a headset. Not BT though, since the processor can't handle both Skype and BT headset at the same time..
With my LOOX 720, we also have a "large" speaker (badly positioned even if you wanted to ignore that it is a loudspeaker and put it in your ear) and a small "phone" speaker (placed correctly where you would put your ear), although FSC never released any VoIP app for the device (and LOOX is not a phone).
Skype (and other VoIP apps) worked as you say. Audio was coming out of the main speaker, plus they (Skype) ignored our requests to use the correct speaker (or didn't know what to do about it).
Then some guys noticed that the small speaker was ALWAYS outputing audio (in apps/games etc.), but since it is a small phone speaker, you have to put your ear on to hear it. Also this gives more "depth" in 720 audio (since the tiny speaker does its part). Anyway, that was an interesting discovery because it led to research that gave something more important:
A simple registry entry could shut-off the main speaker while keeping the phone speaker working! No need for soft reset or anything! Some even made a little program for this (which also keeps different volume levels for when on and off since eg. I want volume=2 when loudspeaker is on and volume=4 when only ear speaker is on). Toggle it whenever we want (I have a shortcut in my today screen for it).
So I am thinking... look for something like that in Trinity also? It should even be simpler because I am sure Trinity has pretty clear and distinct volume values for both speakers (since this IS a phone after all).
Maybe a shortcut to a registry key could allow to control the speaker volume... like in the loox. I'll try to search registry... Anyway, this is a known issue for skype, so probably they will be working on that on future releases, maybe it needs customization for every particular model. _http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=71698
Skype and Bluetooth
I use a stereo BT headset and it works great (iTech clip S38). I used another program to toggle, but battery life went to a couple of hours, even when not in use. If you Skype a lot, or even once on an international trip, the cost is well justified.
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Anyone can get skype sound to come trough the phone speaker instead of the loudspeaker? (I think it is a software limitation, but is there a workarround?)
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It is possible now with the last final (not beta) version of Skype (2.2.20 or something like that).
The problem is, this final version doesn't work for all phones. You can see the list of supported devices on Skype download page.
The Trinity is not supported on this final version. You can only use chat function, and when you place a voice call, the application automatically shut down.
That's why we keep running the previous beta versions, which work fine, but the sound come from the back speaker
I tried this final version on my wizard, and I confirm that the sound does come from the ear-piece, for the first time in skype history. But strangely enough, this 'new' skype is only compatible with 'old' phones...
The text found below was sent to Skype by me today
Dear Skype,
#1 please sent me a list of supported Pocket PC’s that work with skype and with a Bluetooth A2dp Headset.
The one I have now can be found at: http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/NA-US/products/Pages/JabraBT8040.aspx and I works really well for windows media mobile.
#2 I currently have the following device which does not work with Skype for the Pocket PC with an A2dp headset. I am very upset about this; I really want to use your skype out service, but cant.
My Device Information: Unlocked
HTC P3600, Trinity
ROM version: 1.23.405.2
ROM date: 03/11/07
Radio Version 1.38.00.11
Protocol Version: 32.71.7020.12h
ExtROM Version: 1.23.405.103
I have installed the following versions of Skype for PPC
SkypeForPocketPC-2.0.0.51-LowCPU.cab
SkypeForPocketPC-2.0.0.51-LowCPU.cab
SkypeForPocketPC-2.2.0.18-Beta.cab
kypeForPocketPC-2.2.0.20-Beta.exe
SkypeForPocketPCNew.CAB
The only one that works is the SkypeForPocketPC-2.2.0.18-Beta.cab it works perfectly for the HTC P3600, Trinity however, "only" when you use the corded headset that attaches to the mini usb on the phone, or just the speaker that is on the back of the phone the “external speaker”.
the SkypeForPocketPC-2.2.0.18-Beta.cab, I feel, does not work with any A2DP Bluetooth headset.
I have tried the following A2DP Bluetooth headsets
JabraBt8040
Link: same as above
Plantronics Voyager 855 Stereo Bluetooth Headset
Lubix UBHS-NC1 Stereo Bluetooth Headset
I think something goes wrong when the Bluetooth stack tries transfer the Skype audio to the Bluetooth headsets it gets all messed up with lots of echoes and sound disconnects and, latency and so on. However playing any multimedia files on the phone work perfectly through my A2DP Bluetooth headset.
Like a said SkypeForPocketPC-2.2.0.18-Beta.cab works perfectly only when you use the corded headset that attaches to the mini usb on the phone, or just the speaker that is on the back of the phone the “external speaker”.
I have also tried to use a whole bunch of 3rd party applications that redirected the sound to my older mono headsets. I tried three of them, and that did not work either. It’s something when the speaker sound gets transferd to any BT device.
(((((( Update I just used the the btaudio.zip that qyach posted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289720
it works but the mono sound is still not very good, nothing like a mobile phone call sound, and no ware near the sound quality with the corded headset that came with the HTC P3600 What to do,, anyone?
Im thinking of getting a ETEN X800 http://www.smart-mobile-gadgets.com/welcome/cart.php?target=product&product_id=1128&category_id=40
I read that It works well with Skype, and the sound is sent to the phones earpiece after installing a piece of software that ETEN developed called Skype Switch, therefore it should work with a BT headset.
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:cwIdCCuH2LEJ:www.etenblog.com/2007/11/13/getting-skype-to-work-as-it-should/+skype+Switch+program&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us
But now some sales man who sounded like he know what he was talking about, said that the ETEN phones are flaky and that 70% of the ETEN phones that he sells get returned.
I don’t know what to do, but, dam it I want a WM5 or WM6 Phone that works perfect with Skype sound BT and all.
Now the only problem is how much better or worse is HTC V.S. ETEN? I really am looking for a cool looking phone something small and sleek that will work perfect with Skype mobile. The ETEN X800 looked like it was the solution. But now I don’t know what to do.
Someone please help.
Update: 02/16/08
I Just got an ETEN x800 and istalled the Skype Switch and took skype for a test run ,, ya,ya, the sound gets redirected to the earpiece,,, ya, but it sonds like sh_t also..
Someone out there has to be able to Hack this mess.
DTMF ,Fring, PPC Skype, And A2DP.
For the Skype sound problem not going through the BT headset someone on this site suggested using fring which is a fantastic idea, however it’s always something... with fring you can place a Skype out call but during the call you can’t navigate company’s phone menu during the call like, “press 1 for billing” “press 2 for sales”. There isn’t even a dial pad. When I contacted there support department I got this:
Hello,
Thank you for contacting our support team.
Currently, it is not available to dial DTMF sounds on fring, this should be implemented in future versions. You can stay up to date on new releases from our blog http://www.fring.com/blog/
In other words, I’m not holding my breath.
Is there a way to transmit a DTMF signal to the input of a Bluetooth A2DP headset? I don’t mean literally, just a sound redirect, in other words trick it into thinking it’s me making the DTMF sound.
I can’t find anything on the net except for Dial-a-matic, which will not work. I also took a look at Pocket Dialer v1.03 but there is no way to redirect sound. I also thought that maybe Kai’s ContactDialer would work but I don’t think it does, or I don’t understand how to use it and get it to work.
I also wonder if all of these problems are salved on WM6 I was looking at upgrading to the new HTC P3470 but the processor is slower than the p3600.
God,, do I want to get rid of that stupid weird mini HTC usb headset, ridicules for a $700 phone.
I wouldn’t need to go through all this if Skype would just finally fix their PPC version to work with a Bluetooth headset.
(((((( Update I just used the the btaudio.zip that qyach posted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289720
it works but the mono sound is still not very good, nothing like a mobile phone call sound, and no ware near the sound quality with the corded headset that came with the HTC P3600 What to do,, anyone?
Im thinking of getting a ETEN X800 http://www.smart-mobile-gadgets.com/...category_id=40
I read that IT works well with Skype, and the sound is sent to the phones speakers after installing a piece of software that ETEN developed called Skype Switch, therefore it should work with a BT headset.
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=2&gl=us
But now some sales man who sounded like he know what he was talking about, said that the ETEN phones are flaky and that 70% of the ETEN phones that he sells get returned.
I don’t know what to do, but, dam it I want a WM5 or WM6 Phone that works perfect with Skype sound BT and all.
Now the only problem is how much better or worse is HTC V.S. ETEN? I really am looking for a cool looking phone something small and sleek that will work perfect with Skype mobile. The ETEN X800 looked like it was the solution. But now I don’t know what to do.
Someone please help.
Hi folks,
I have a Cingular 8525 (Hermes 100/TYTN, I believe) running WM5 on the stock ROM from Cingular/AT&T (the recently upgraded one). I am trying to redirect all audio output, no matter what it is, to my Plantronics Model 340 headset. This is a monaural headset, but I don't care, because all I want to do is listen to voice podcasts and audio quality is not an issue.
A few people have told me about the program "BTAudio," but I tried this and it doesn't appear to work on my phone. Running the BTAudioOn program produces a soft hiss in the headset, but other than that you hear nothing through it. BTAudioOff turns off the hiss.
I thought that maybe this would work better with the WIDCOMM stack that you folks have been working on, but I can't find an actual install guide for that or anything saying "hey, this is ready to go and you should use it now."
Help?
http://www.teksoftbluemusic.com/
It works great, for me.
vmiguel said:
http://www.teksoftbluemusic.com/
It works great, for me.
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Thanks! anyone else have other ideas? I would prefer not to go with trialware as there exist other solutions that work fine on other handsets.
I feel like there's just one little thing I'd have to tweak somewhere to get it to work, if only I knew what it was.
Actually, a couple of things happened here:
1) At first it didn't work.
2) Then I held down the button on my headset, and the Voice Speed Dial application started itself, all the audio was redirected to the headset for about 5 seconds, and then it stopped.
3) Then THIS stopped and wouldn't work anymore. Then when I pressed the "play" button in the Today screen plugin, it started working (for the two-minute trial period). I haven't been able to make it work again since.
I think there is some chance I could make this work if I could disable the Voice Speed Dial application, but I don't know how :-/
Hi Again,
RE: the old Voice Command issue with the Touch....When I am using my bluetooth, I hit the call button on the earpiece and get the tone. I say, for ex., "call home", and get the usual voice response, "Call Home?", to which I respond yes. Then i just get the end tone. It doesn't dial the number. Works fine without ther bluetooth. My understanding was VC didn't work at all with BT, but now that I'm this close, I'm wondering if there is a fix...Also, not to beat a dead horse, but anything new on voice notifications, especially Email and appointments. I really miss that from my old BlackJack with VC 1.5....
Thanks all,
Gary
Bluetooth and Voice Command 1.6 work perfectly on my Touch Cruise. (Although, it might be causing an issue with A2DP...I have to investigate to make sure though.). Eitherway, the point of my post was to let you know that VC 1.6 does over bluetooth, with not only commands, but also voice notifications coming over properly. So maybe the problem is your Radio ROM? Have you tried any others? Do the Radio ROMs from the MSM7200 models work for you guys with the MSM7500? If so, the most upto date Touch Cruise Radio ROM could do the trick for you.
Similar problem here.
With my stock touch, VC1.6 works better then with previous devices, but still not 100%.
I can initiate calls by pressing the button on my headset and, unlike devices of the past, notifications can be heard via the headset.
Where I have a problem, is in VC recognizing my response to confirmations. Anotherwords, if I have confirmations turned on for voice dialing, and say "dial Michele at home", VC will come back and confirm "dial Michele at home?". But when I acknowledge and say "yes", it does not recognize this, and times out.
If I turn confirmations off completely, everything works fine.
You can actually hear the confirmations lol? When I tried it I could barely hear the confirmations.
Dew.man,
How do you turn off confirmations? I can see the check boxes for voice enabling, and calendar reminders, but nothing about disabling the confirmations. (I have ver. 1.60.4622, is there a newer one?) Also, (for mindfrost) regarding the volume thru the bluetooth, there is a fix for that which works great. I'm at work and I'd have to look for it, but it is probably on this site . And the ever popular "audiopara" fix works GREAT for all other volume issues. Just drop the folder in the phone's windows directory. It is available on this site as well.
Gary
garpt said:
Dew.man,
How do you turn off confirmations? I can see the check boxes for voice enabling, and calendar reminders, but nothing about disabling the confirmations. (I have ver. 1.60.4622, is there a newer one?) Also, (for mindfrost) regarding the volume thru the bluetooth, there is a fix for that which works great. I'm at work and I'd have to look for it, but it is probably on this site . And the ever popular "audiopara" fix works GREAT for all other volume issues. Just drop the folder in the phone's windows directory. It is available on this site as well.
Gary
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I would love to know the fix for the BT issue, please post.
After months of tweaking (including Jetware, that doesn't even have direct support for Touch), I did finally get MS VC working well on my Touch, even with voice confirmation and all. But it would take out my A2DP stereo capability time and time again. I implemented every other tweak and tip out there. Besides A2DP being unusable, it would also take out being to listen to Sprint TV over a BT headphone, which was a real bummer.
About 3 months ago I finally gave up VC. I had to ask what were my must haves, and they were rock solid A2DP to play my Rhapsody to-go tracks on the memory card with my two BT stereo headphones, and listening to SprintTV over the BT mono or stereo. Voice command was third on the list, and I'd just had to survive with the mickey-mouse voice dialing that came with the Touch... I uninstalled the MS VC for good.
Now everything is rock solid, and I much regret the literally hundreds of hours of my life I wasted on VC, not to mention my $40 bucks.
For those of us who don't use stereo bluetooth.. ie, myself I'd love to know what the fix was for getting the confirmation volume corrected. It'd make voice dialing in noisy places (such as while driving, in airports, etc) a whole lot easier. If anyone in this thread recalls, what was the solution to that?
Hi everyone,
this morning my jasjams microphone has just stopped working. It wont work either for calls or on the voice recorder. Connecting my bluetooth seems to work ok. Hardware or software problem??? I cant seem to find anyone having the same problem...
Cheers
Sounds like hardware. Especially if the bluetooth seems to work ok. Would look at that.
Cheers...
I am a Flash-a-Holic and have used every port available to HD2. Be it WM6, Android SD Card Builds, Android NAND Builds, WP7 Builds.
For a daily use I require the use of Bluetooth Headset for Calls when I am on the road in my car and even at work where it is usually difficult to take the phone out of my pocket for answering incoming calls, hence the Bluetooth Headset.
Although after using so many ports I sincerely think that the smoothest experience I have had on my HD2 is with the WP7 Roms, it is difficult for me to use it since Bluetooth Audio Service has some problems which I have not been able to find a solution to.
Mainly the problem is that I can hear the caller fine but my voice goes over as very choppy like the connection is breaking up or something. I have done the following in order to locate this problem:
1) Changed Bluetooth Headsets (Tried it with SE MW600, Jabra BT3030, Blackberry 665)
2) Tried all the WP7 Roms
3) Tried different SD Cards
4) Tried registry tweak suggested by XBMOD in his Rom thread
5) Tried turning off XBOX services
6) Tried toggling between 2G 3G, Data ON, Data OFF
So nothing works. My reason for starting this thread is to draw attention of the DEVs towards this issue so that they can look it over and would eventually find a solution.
Would appreciate any suggestions or workarounds that anyone has to offer.
Otherwise, thanks to all the DEVs for a brilliant WP7 Rom for our HD2's
I'm having exactly the same problem. It happens with my car blue tooth, as well as my Yabra and Plantronics headset. This thread will display a lot of the same problems:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/.../b53c64ce-30ee-4734-9dab-28ce0d561132?page=22
For me it is the only thing I'm not satisfied with on my phone, but it is important enough to maybe have to switch back to WM 6.5. I hope there will be a fix soon.
I think it has something to do with noise cancellation. When something is talking, it looks like my mic is shutting down. When there is some background noise from the other caller, my voice is scrambled badly...
I am also facing the exact problem. Sometimes it works quite good (when the other side is quite silent), but when the other caller is using his carkit or headset and thus has a lot of noise, the bluetooth voice connection keeps dropping. I can hear the other side quite good thoug.
Would the new Windows Phone 7 update fix this? This really is the one thing missing from this phone!
As far as I have read, the nodo update won't fix this problem. It is really starting to annoy me that there isn't a word from MSFT about a possible fix.... This is really unworkable...
Does MW600 works after NODO ?
Someone has test with NODO ?
I wanna buy MW600 for my Omnia 7.