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Tips on Getting the Most out of your Battery

Anybody have any tips on getting the most out of your battery. I'm currently rumming WM6 business edition and just want to know how I can get more out of my battery. I have read to turn off wi-fi and gprs when not using it.. is there anything else that can be done. I have all the battery patches but i dont feel as if they are working..any help would be greatly appreciated

turn IR beam off too...

is that set on by default?

Turn off your phone overnight. You can get an app to do this by schedule (I cannot remember the name, sorry).

PaulMdx said:
Turn off your phone overnight. You can get an app to do this by schedule (I cannot remember the name, sorry).
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Do you mean turn my phone off when i recharge? I ususal recharge during the night

i pretty much never run out of battery and i am running windows mobile 6, all i do is just make sure the screen is off (the button on the top right) and it really helps the battery out

jawnsixteen said:
i pretty much never run out of battery and i am running windows mobile 6, all i do is just make sure the screen is off (the button on the top right) and it really helps the battery out
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Do you do this during the night or throughout the day. Thus having the phone set to turn off after 5 mins of inactivity

by the way, how the heck can i disable "gprs always on" thing? i don't need gprs often, so it just hangs out there without a real purpose, and probably draining my battery a bit...

banannq said:
by the way, how the heck can i disable "gprs always on" thing? i don't need gprs often, so it just hangs out there without a real purpose, and probably draining my battery a bit...
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You can use NoData. Works well for me. Needs registration to the website:
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=246171&st=0

that just lets you turn it on and off. is there any app that turns on only when needed ie you try to access the internet or get a mms messaging

k2e15 said:
that just lets you turn it on and off. is there any app that turns on only when needed ie you try to access the internet or get a mms messaging
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WM6 should do this after a standard install...by default! Make sure you have GPRS AlwaysOn turned off (Using a Registry Editor search for "Always" and find your matching Internet Connection. Set the value of the AlwaysOn DWORD to 0, not 1.)
Let me know if you need any other help.

i press the button on the top right whenever its not in use. And of course at night.

i set the display to the 2nd bar from the left. it saves way more battery then having the bar in the middle. i turned off the beam. i set power off to 2mins and backlight out @ 30secs. i push the power button (top right) during any phone call to turn the display off. my battery can last me all day and i talk/txt alot.

Buy an extended battery?

aNiMeMaN14 said:
Buy an extended battery?
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lol I have done that!! but I know that there has to be away to save battery.. THx guys I'm going to try these suggestions!

k2e15 said:
Do you mean turn my phone off when i recharge? I ususal recharge during the night
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I meant turn it off if you leave it overnight without charging it. My point is moot if you charge it overnight anyway.
I charge mine at work mostly, so I don't charge it overnight. Generally I do so every couple of days.

hpspec said:
WM6 should do this after a standard install...by default! Make sure you have GPRS AlwaysOn turned off (Using a Registry Editor search for "Always" and find your matching Internet Connection. Set the value of the AlwaysOn DWORD to 0, not 1.)
Let me know if you need any other help.
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Found it..but there is not a way to actually turn off gprs if I use it for direct push correct?

ok..not to start something but if uve gone as far to buy a ext battery and ur still not happy w/ batt life sell ur device and buy a nokia they are great on battery.. u cant expect to get good battery life out of this thing..i mean look what it does...

What kind of battery life are you seeing with the WM6 BE rom? I installed it a week ago and so far I've been AMAZED as the battery life. With my reg-tweaked Cingular 2.25 stock rom I'd end the day between 45-55%. Now It's 75-80% solid.
Also, it seems that Wifi uses less power in this rom too...

As of right now I'm not using my extended battery because i wanted to go back to the original battery that came with the phone for a short time since the other battery is bulkier, I only like to use it during the weekends when I'm not close to a power source. I've used all the tips in this thread and they have all worked as my battery has been going strong. thx

battery life: Is it possible to switch Snapvue off / prevent it from starting up?

Hello,
Till you guys find a solution I am not using Snapvue at all, but the Shift very, very much.
My problem is that I load it 100%, shut Vista down..... and after 6 hours or so I lose 15% battery. Must be Snapvue....
I found a solution though:
1. Load 100%
2. Shut Vista down
3. Take out the battery and put it back. So no Snapvue startup.
4. After several hours still 100% battery.
Is there an easier way?
As I am flying a lot in the cattle class I need a small UMPC AND battery life.
Huib
P.s.
I am also in for some hints and tips which services I easily can switch off to keep performance up/battery low.

That doesn't sounds right to me.
I took my Shift off of the mains yesterday at around 4:30pm when I left work, and it's been sitting in my bag until I just read your post. Looking at it now, SnapVue has been running (with radio on) for approximately 28.5 hours and my battery is at 80%.
I actually thought I'd switched the radio off anyway, but it was still running and downloading emails all day.
Did you have the radio on for those 6 hours? If so, were you in an area where the signal strength wasn't good? I find my phones burn through batteries if they are continually hunting for a single or chopping and changing between 3G and 2G.
Regards,
Dave

Winmo will run for 1-2 days checking emails without interaction.
If your signal was low and it was constantly hunting for signal then that would definitely drain more battery.

foxmeister said:
That doesn't sounds right to me.
I took my Shift off of the mains yesterday at around 4:30pm when I left work, and it's been sitting in my bag until I just read your post. Looking at it now, SnapVue has been running (with radio on) for approximately 28.5 hours and my battery is at 80%.
I actually thought I'd switched the radio off anyway, but it was still running and downloading emails all day.
Did you have the radio on for those 6 hours? If so, were you in an area where the signal strength wasn't good? I find my phones burn through batteries if they are continually hunting for a single or chopping and changing between 3G and 2G.
Regards,
Dave
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Well, Dave,
I did not have any SIM card in at all.
But I will give it a new try. Try to be more precise.
-I fully load it.
-Then shut down Vista.
-And I will calculate the percentage left after 8 hours. Maybe I have more time and check it after 16 hours too.
Anyway... taking the battery out-and-in solves it for me: stays on 100%
Huib

rpawly said:
Winmo will run for 1-2 days checking emails without interaction.
If your signal was low and it was constantly hunting for signal then that would definitely drain more battery.
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Ok, it was 15% in 8 hours in stead of 6 then. In that case it was right:
45% in a day and 90% in 2 days.
This heavily conflicts with Daves' 20% in 28.4 hours!
Huib

Since you don't have a SIM in the unit, have you switched the radio off?
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
Since you don't have a SIM in the unit, have you switched the radio off?
Regards,
Dave
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and did he have the screen powered up? that is the single most factory to battery drain

rpawly said:
and did he have the screen powered up? that is the single most factory to battery drain
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Of course I did not have the screen powered up. That would take more than 15% in 8 hours.
Please.........
And I thought the phone is automatically off without SIM card.
My phone is in flight mode anyway, because I switched everything off.
But still, 15% in 8 hours is two days , so what's wrong with that?
So... once more. When I take out the battery and do NOT start Vista, the phone is not switched on, so power consumption is near to zero.
So: The only thing I am looking for is the software in Vista that triggers the Winmo to start. Because: Without Vista it never starts.
Huib

herpi said:
So: The only thing I am looking for is the software in Vista that triggers the Winmo to start. Because: Without Vista it never starts.
Huib
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I doubt that there is "software" in Vista triggering WinMobile to start - as soon as you hit the power switch, both Vista and WinMobile boot up, but SnapVue is up long before the "PC" part of the Shift gets to boot Vista.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
I doubt that there is "software" in Vista triggering WinMobile to start - as soon as you hit the power switch, both Vista and WinMobile boot up, but SnapVue is up long before the "PC" part of the Shift gets to boot Vista.
Regards,
Dave
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In that case it is over and out and I will do the battery removal trick.
Thanks anyway.
Huib

five hours Vsita closed 89% left
I am sure this is it:
After 5 hours I have 89% left with Vista swiched off.
So this means two days in total.
And no SIM inside, and in flight mode.
Dissapointing....
So I still I am waiting for the answer: How do I prevent winmo/Snapvue from starting at all.
Huib

I'm wondering if there's a problem with your Shift itself.
I had my on today to install Vista SP1 (which I promptly removed shortly thereafter!) and switched it off at around 4pm - just over 4 hours ago. It was on mains power whilst I was using it, and I switched off the radio on SnapVue after I shut Vista down.
Looking at my Shift now, my battery is at 98%. I won't be touching it again until sometime tomorrow (at least I'm not planning to) so I'll post further battery drainage details again tomorrow.
Regards,
Dave

I am waiting with interest
Huib

foxmeister said:
I'm wondering if there's a problem with your Shift itself.
I had my on today to install Vista SP1 (which I promptly removed shortly thereafter!)
Regards,
Dave
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Hi foxmeister,
why did you remove SP1? I plan to install it as soon as I've got my Shift.
There isn't much commenting on SP1 installations. Can anyone comment?
I remember reading somewhere in this tread that others also removed it after installing.
Any differences between "original" English version and other countries' versions like in the Snapvue part.
Thanks!
Settembrini

herpi said:
I am waiting with interest
Huib
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Just logged into this forum now. It's just after 1pm here, so the last time I posted was a shade under 17 hours ago. Just checked my Shift, and the battery is at 95% now.
Working back to when it was last on charge, that's 5% in a little under 21 hours, with the radio and screen off.
Regards,
Dave

Settembrini said:
why did you remove SP1? I plan to install it as soon as I've got my Shift.
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Hi,
I uninstalled it because there were a few issues that I didn't have time to resolve. Specifically:
1. The HTC communications centre crashed a few times
2. Origami wouldn't always start - it would sit on its flash screen
3. Internet access via HSDPA didn't seem to work.
Rebooting a few times brought my comms centre and Origami back, so I'm sure I could get the internet access going again given time, but I go on vacation tomorrow and I needed to get everything important installed on the Shift before I leave. It therefore seemed prudent to just restore back to my pre-SP1 image.
I'll try again once I get back from vacation.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
Just logged into this forum now. It's just after 1pm here, so the last time I posted was a shade under 17 hours ago. Just checked my Shift, and the battery is at 95% now.
Working back to when it was last on charge, that's 5% in a little under 21 hours, with the radio and screen off.
Regards,
Dave
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Mine, with flightmode on, drains like a watertap.
I will chek out why..
My tytnII stays on longer whennog using winmo.
Huib

herpi said:
Mine, with flightmode on, drains like a watertap.
I will chek out why..
My tytnII stays on longer whennog using winmo.
Huib
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exactly, this isn't a WM (=snapvue) issue, WM itself should be able to run for weeks in suspend
when you remove the battery, obviously you remove the cause of the problem too but that could be anything not just WM

foxmeister said:
Hi,
I uninstalled it because there were a few issues that I didn't have time to resolve. Specifically:
1. The HTC communications centre crashed a few times
2. Origami wouldn't always start - it would sit on its flash screen
3. Internet access via HSDPA didn't seem to work.
Rebooting a few times brought my comms centre and Origami back, so I'm sure I could get the internet access going again given time, but I go on vacation tomorrow and I needed to get everything important installed on the Shift before I leave. It therefore seemed prudent to just restore back to my pre-SP1 image.
I'll try again once I get back from vacation.
Regards,
Dave
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mmh ... that's what happened on the video (the first video of the released version) .. it stayed about a minute on the flash screen and then he cuts the video .... not showing origami !
what do you think of origami 2.0 ? I'm following this project the closest I can from about 2 years and I'm really excited to buy the shift and try it !

koala996 said:
mmh ... that's what happened on the video (the first video of the released version) .. it stayed about a minute on the flash screen and then he cuts the video .... not showing origami !
what do you think of origami 2.0 ? I'm following this project the closest I can from about 2 years and I'm really excited to buy the shift and try it !
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To be honest, I don't like it. It's really slow with everything.
I even installed Winamp (full version).
Winamp is much faster and works perfect on the Shift.
But the Origami is really slow so that's why I don't use it

Still loose 2% battery per hour, Vista off and WM in sleep mode

As I loose that much per hour, I was wondering if that is abnormal.
I hard a n d softreset WM, have no SIM card in, just do NOT use WM.
Vista is fully switched off.
Pls tell me if that is normal and, if not, what to do .
Still interested in that miracle tool to switch WM off fully. I do not use it.
Huib

Yes it is abnormal! My Shift still has 92% battery life after 36+ hours (Radio off, WM sleeping, Vista off). I don't even get anywhere near 2% per hour with Vista booted but sleeping (more like 1%).
As I said before in your last thread on this subject, I think there is a specific problem with you device - I get about 2 hours from my Shift when Vista is awake, so I don't think my device is "special".
Regards,
Dave

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I don't even get anywhere near 2% per hour with Vista booted but sleeping (more like 1%).
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Sleeping? Or Hibernated? If you only drain 1% per hour in sleep maybe i will extend the time-to-hibernate in my profile to a few hours. Waking up from hibernate is fast - waiting for all the applications to get back to "normal" speed however takes like 3 minutes. So freakin annoying. Anyone else have this problem?

Sangheili said:
Sleeping? Or Hibernated? If you only drain 1% per hour in sleep maybe i will extend the time-to-hibernate in my profile to a few hours. Waking up from hibernate is fast - waiting for all the applications to get back to "normal" speed however takes like 3 minutes. So freakin annoying. Anyone else have this problem?
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Neither sleeping, nor Hibernating Vista. Switched off! But WM of course.....
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So:
My Vista is fully switched off.
I would be happy if I could get more statistics from your guys.
Pls switch Vista off on a fully loaded Shift.
Put it next to the bed, and see in the morning ( Lets say 8 hours) if it has more or less then, lets say, 85% power left.
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Of course, as told so many times, when I take out the battery and put it back, there is no powerdrain at all ,because WM has not been started in that case.
Huib

foxmeister said:
Yes it is abnormal! My Shift still has 92% battery life after 36+ hours (Radio off, WM sleeping, Vista off). I don't even get anywhere near 2% per hour with Vista booted but sleeping (more like 1%).
As I said before in your last thread on this subject, I think there is a specific problem with you device - I get about 2 hours from my Shift when Vista is awake, so I don't think my device is "special".
Regards,
Dave
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Hello again Dave,
You are right, but I was wondering if I was the only one, that's why this new thread.
Can you tell me how you set WM to sleep?
I have of course this "turned off if not used for 1 minute"
Shall I switch flight mode ON in the shagctrl? So turning off also my WIFI?
Coudl WIFI be the killer? Even when Vista is fully off? Did not try that yet, but I certainly will now.
And... How do I switch WIFI off, when not in Vista as as there is no Shagctrl.
Huib

well your problem seems like my problem
I have the same problem like your shift
my battery also drain about 1-2% per hour even without using it (I leave it at my side when I sleep)
Up until now, I still don't get the reason why this happening
Because, when I first time got the device, it was last longer than that, I saw it just maybe drain up to 15% for 2 and a half days

herpi said:
Hello again Dave,
You are right, but I was wondering if I was the only one, that's why this new thread.
Can you tell me how you set WM to sleep?
I have of course this "turned off if not used for 1 minute"
Shall I switch flight mode ON in the shagctrl? So turning off also my WIFI?
Coudl WIFI be the killer? Even when Vista is fully off? Did not try that yet, but I certainly will now.
And... How do I switch WIFI off, when not in Vista as as there is no Shagctrl.
Huib
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I also and always turning off my wifi when I hibernate the vista
and I also still have that 2% for 1 hour problem

Blue_Lightning said:
I also and always turning off my wifi when I hibernate the vista
and I also still have that 2% for 1 hour problem
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Yep,
Till now only Dave does not have this problem.
I just tested with WIFI off, and same problem. There is no realation and should not be.
Especially when flying it is a problem, because then I really am without juice. I bought an extra battery however, but still.
So I (sigh) take the battery off and put it back quickly. That solves it
Huib

yes and I think right now the snapvue can't take the wifi out to work, so it doesn't have a chance to reduce the battery
Well, if you said only Dave, I think, mine at the first time doesn't have this problem
At the first time the shift was at my hand , it can last for maybe 4days without using it
Strange isn't it

Hmm. @Herpi.
In this Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389487
i found out:
If you run only SnapVue, and go off ... battery drain is normal 5mA/h for SnapVue standby.
Now ... if you start up Vista - do something like usb conection to resync, an shut vista down at last. SnapVue drains now 40-50!!! mA/h in standby.
(by comparison: in WM6 200mA/H in Vista 800-1000mA/H if backlight is 2.th low)
A softreset solves the problem - till you start up Vista again.
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Are your really sure a softreset after shutting down vista, do not help ?
Bye,
Lyvia

Lyvia said:
Hmm. @Herpi.
In this Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389487
i found out:
Are your really sure a softreset after shutting down vista, do not help ?
Bye,
Lyvia
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How do I softreset after closing Vista?
Huib

You must liberate your Shift to unlock SnapVue to real WindowsMobile6.
Guide:
http://www.modaco.com/content/windows-mobile-news/266537/liberate-your-htc-shift/
Then you have a "soft reset" programm, but your can use other applications, like taskmanagers (e.g. WK-Task | http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html ) too.

herpi said:
Can you tell me how you set WM to sleep?
I have of course this "turned off if not used for 1 minute"
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Well, when I say sleeping - I really mean "not active". Assuming Vista is asleep or shutdown, when I've finished with WM, I press the "shift" button to switch it back to my inactive vista session.
Shall I switch flight mode ON in the shagctrl? So turning off also my WIFI?
Coudl WIFI be the killer? Even when Vista is fully off? Did not try that yet, but I certainly will now.
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Interesting idea - perhaps if Wifi is on, it remains powered up even if Vista has been shut down.
And... How do I switch WIFI off, when not in Vista as as there is no Shagctrl.
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Unfortunately, at present, you can only switch if on and off via Vista.
Regards,
Dave

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Sleeping? Or Hibernated? If you only drain 1% per hour in sleep maybe i will extend the time-to-hibernate in my profile to a few hours. Waking up from hibernate is fast - waiting for all the applications to get back to "normal" speed however takes like 3 minutes. So freakin annoying. Anyone else have this problem?
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Sleeping - I found that hibernating doesn't really give me any speed benefits over a cold boot.
Regards,
Dave

Just an FYI, but I've not used my Shift at all since my first posting on this thread, which is now some 50 hours ago. In that time, the battery on my Shift has dropped a further 12%, so I'm now at 80% capacity. This means in the last 86+ hours, my Shift has only consumed 20% of its battery power.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
Just an FYI, but I've not used my Shift at all since my first posting on this thread, which is now some 50 hours ago. In that time, the battery on my Shift has dropped a further 12%, so I'm now at 80% capacity. This means in the last 86+ hours, my Shift has only consumed 20% of its battery power.
Regards,
Dave
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yes, but as far as I can see you are the only one on this forum.
So here comes my call again: anybody else, somewhere on this world ,has this perfect battery consumption as Dave has?
Huib

Yes, my battery consumption is very similar to Daves, I don't seem to be leaking power when not in use. Vista hibernated, Windows Mobile checking 2 email accounts every 15 mins from 7am this morning until now, (5.20 pm), battery now on 92%.
Left unused, with the modem turned off but winmo running, it drops around 6-8% in 24 hours.

Pantaloonie said:
Yes, my battery consumption is very similar to Daves, I don't seem to be leaking power when not in use. Vista hibernated, Windows Mobile checking 2 email accounts every 15 mins from 7am this morning until now, (5.20 pm), battery now on 92%.
Left unused, with the modem turned off but winmo running, it drops around 6-8% in 24 hours.
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Well, that's supposed to be. When I got the shift for the first time, it was like that
But I don't know what make it like this now, eventhough I checked at battery meter, it just charge -43. Why it become so power hungry then ???

I haven't installed SP1, and don't plan to do so any time soon.
Don't know if that's relevant.

Pantaloonie said:
I haven't installed SP1, and don't plan to do so any time soon.
Don't know if that's relevant.
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I don't know if that's the cause
But I've already installed SP1 and before that I think maybe you're right now
GENIUS ........!!!!!!!!!!!
well, maybe another shift user out there ??? who installed SP1 and still don't have the battery problem, please post just to make me sure that I will do the right thing to uninstall SP1

Diamond 2 problems

Hi
I just purchase Topaz
also i'm new to the windows mobile phones
I'm completely like the phone but i have a weird problem with it
while i use it i notice the battery produces too much heat that i can notice
the battery can be drained very easily with any action
I just turn off my phone it was 21% charge i noticed the heating issue
and i turned it on again and the battery was 14%
just to restart my phone i lost 7%
Is the heating issue normal?
The battery drain is it normal?

Cairo_ said:
Hi
I just purchase Topaz
also i'm new to the windows mobile phones
I'm completely like the phone but i have a weird problem with it
while i use it i notice the battery produces too much heat that i can notice
the battery can be drained very easily with any action
I just turn off my phone it was 21% charge i noticed the heating issue
and i turned it on again and the battery was 14%
just to restart my phone i lost 7%
Is the heating issue normal?
The battery drain is it normal?
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Well, Its normal to get hot when taking a long call.. (10 min or more), but while in standby, it should NEVER get even WARM (mine stays cold as ice ) !!!
The power drain maybe is cuz your phone is heating.. The heat expands circuits and increase the power drain.

Cairo_ said:
Hi
I just purchase Topaz
also i'm new to the windows mobile phones
I'm completely like the phone but i have a weird problem with it
while i use it i notice the battery produces too much heat that i can notice
the battery can be drained very easily with any action
I just turn off my phone it was 21% charge i noticed the heating issue
and i turned it on again and the battery was 14%
just to restart my phone i lost 7%
Is the heating issue normal?
The battery drain is it normal?
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..the heating is normal!
Concering the battery drain is up to the rom and completly different!

cyron_at said:
..the heating is normal!
Concering the battery drain is up to the rom and completly different!
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Not normal if the phone is on stand by mode (And I believe that`s what he`s saying ) !!!

I just installed Copilot
the battery was 14%
after the installation ended and the phone restarted
it got about 4%
Also i used the MP3 player for around and hour the battery dropped about 20%
how's that?
or should i take it back? I'm still having the phone warranty

Cairo_ said:
I just installed Copilot
the battery was 14%
after the installation ended and the phone restarted
it got about 4%
Also i used the MP3 player for around and hour the battery dropped about 20%
how's that?
or should i take it back? I'm still having the phone warranty
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About using the MP3 player for 1 hour and drop 20%, its normal.
But, 14% then sunddely goes to 4% ? Thats not freaking normal...
Just take it back to warranty ok!

haranbh said:
About using the MP3 player for 1 hour and drop 20%, its normal.
But, 14% then sunddely goes to 4% ? Thats not freaking normal...
Just take it back to warranty ok!
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I wouldn't rush to send it back. It all sounds normal to me.

You must remember that the batteries will take a few weeks to attain full capacity operation.
Keep them on charge as much as you can (mains or car/plane etc), don't switch off at night, don't cycle them and don't drain them excessively.
If that does not give an improvement THEN take them back.
When I first got my TD2 I was appalled at the battery life and bought a spare battery. I have never used it.
And when they get warm it shows that they are happily being used or recharged and is no cause for concern.

Hi Cairo,
First of all, sorry for my english.
In my case, I bought my TD2 this summer, & I had some of these problems with the battery.
I'll tell you my steps, perhaps it could help you, if not, you must talk with HTC support.
First, use modaco's nodata to disable HSDPA/3G, use only GSM, it's much better to save battery. the link :http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
Second: Active Sync.
You need a task manager to see notifications.
you must find one of the repllog event.
Use this http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm.
In notifications tab find "repllog AppRunAfterTimeChange" and disable it.
In my case I have disabled two events more, PushInternetScheduleTimeChanged and PushInternetScheduleTimeChanged1 and everything works fine.
After that, in process tab, if repllog appears, kill it, and in notifications tab find again the event "repllog.exe /remote /h",disable too, and use a reg editor (dot's taskmgr has one) and search in hkcu\software\microsoft\ActiveSync, find "KeepAlive" and you must change 1 to 0.
In this case, activesync will never start again, till you connect td2 to laptop or pc with activesync (it changes the value from 0 to 1).
I hope you could understand me and the info is ok for your td2.
Regards

pa49 said:
You must remember that the batteries will take a few weeks to attain full capacity operation.
Keep them on charge as much as you can (mains or car/plane etc), don't switch off at night, don't cycle them and don't drain them excessively.
If that does not give an improvement THEN take them back.
When I first got my TD2 I was appalled at the battery life and bought a spare battery. I have never used it.
And when they get warm it shows that they are happily being used or recharged and is no cause for concern.
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Thank you for the advice i did do what u said and noticed it became a bit better
makix13 said:
Hi Cairo,
First of all, sorry for my english.
In my case, I bought my TD2 this summer, & I had some of these problems with the battery.
I'll tell you my steps, perhaps it could help you, if not, you must talk with HTC support.
First, use modaco's nodata to disable HSDPA/3G, use only GSM, it's much better to save battery. the link :http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
Second: Active Sync.
You need a task manager to see notifications.
you must find one of the repllog event.
Use this http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm.
In notifications tab find "repllog AppRunAfterTimeChange" and disable it.
In my case I have disabled two events more, PushInternetScheduleTimeChanged and PushInternetScheduleTimeChanged1 and everything works fine.
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I hope you could understand me and the info is ok for your td2.
Regards
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Thanks a lot makix
your post were really helpful
i was looking for the way to disable HSDPA and i couldnt found it
Thanks a lot for your help

Hi Cairo,
the hsdpa is in Settings->More->Connections tab->Advanced Network and then u must disable hsdpa.
in settings->communications->phone->advanced->band
I've gsm and gsm(900+1800)umts(900+2100).
(my winmo & touchflo is in spanish, but i hope u can find the options )

makix13 said:
Hi Cairo,
the hsdpa is in Settings->More->Connections tab->Advanced Network and then u must disable hsdpa.
in settings->communications->phone->advanced->band
I've gsm and gsm(900+1800)umts(900+2100).
(my winmo & touchflo is in spanish, but i hope u can find the options )
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Thanks Makix
I disabled it
now my phone after one day of use with about 30 minute GPS of use
and 30 minutes of Mp3 and its 50%
better than befor

Battery drain: GOING CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!

I am really going crazy!!!!!!!!!!!
Tonight again after 8 hours of standby it went from 100% to 70% !!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is not normal...
I only have: weather every 6 hours, facebook every 2 hours, pushmail (but usually I turn it off at night)...
I do not have data autodisconnect, but untill a few days ago I never had drain issue...
I tried monitoring battery with a bat log program, and in standby it never goes lower than -75mA...
Signal at home is eprfect, so it cannot be a signal problem...
Could it be that my battery (after 1 year an 3 months) is nearly dead and in discharging quickly? How can I verify?
I am also attaching the datalog usage and as you can see there's not many data connections going on in standby: 22Kb from 22:00 till 23:00, 1Kb from 2:00 till midnight and 96Kb in 6 hours from midnight till 06:00am. I don't think that this data usage could justify a 30% drainage in 8 hours...
Thanks

75mA drain in standby is not normal, in WM you should be at 2mA.
If you can't identify which program is not sleeping then I would flash the newest stock ROM and see if this cures the issue.

boomboomer said:
75mA drain in standby is not normal, in WM you should be at 2mA.
If you can't identify which program is not sleeping then I would flash the newest stock ROM and see if this cures the issue.
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it's not a rom problem... when I upgraded to 1.66 stock I was not having this problem... it strted recently... and 3.14 has far too many problems

thegios said:
I am really going crazy!!!!!!!!!!!
Tonight again after 8 hours of standby it went from 100% to 70% !!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is not normal...
I only have: weather every 6 hours, facebook every 2 hours, pushmail (but usually I turn it off at night)...
I do not have data autodisconnect, but untill a few days ago I never had drain issue...
I tried monitoring battery with a bat log program, and in standby it never goes lower than -75mA...
Signal at home is eprfect, so it cannot be a signal problem...
Could it be that my battery (after 1 year an 3 months) is nearly dead and in discharging quickly? How can I verify?
I am also attaching the datalog usage and as you can see there's not many data connections going on in standby: 22Kb from 22:00 till 23:00, 1Kb from 2:00 till midnight and 96Kb in 6 hours from midnight till 06:00am. I don't think that this data usage could justify a 30% drainage in 8 hours...
Thanks
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When did you format your SD card for the last time? A heavily defragmented/malfunctioning SD card can cause huge battery drainage. So, if I were you, and it's a fairly long time ago, I would format SD Card (shut down device- take out Card and put in Reader - insert in PC -right click SD card and choose formatting (slow metho/ds) - after finishing reinsert Card in device and format again with SD card formatting tool). My battery is as old as yours and my overnight drainage in standby (with data connections on) is 3-4% max.
regards, Kuzibri

kuzibri said:
When did you format your SD card for the last time? A heavily defragmented/malfunctioning SD card can cause huge battery drainage. So, if I were you, and it's a fairly long time ago, I would format SD Card (shut down device- take out Card and put in Reader - insert in PC -right click SD card and choose formatting (slow metho/ds) - after finishing reinsert Card in device and format again with SD card formatting tool). My battery is as old as yours and my overnight drainage in standby (with data connections on) is 3-4% max.
regards, Kuzibri
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Even this, I've already done it, plenty of times (I do this at elast every month or two)...

thegios said:
Even this, I've already done it, plenty of times (I do this at elast every month or two)...
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Sorry, hoped that this would be the "simple" solution of this problem. Does your battery take longer to fully charge than usual? If yes, than, certainly in combination with the drainage, I would replace the battery. Can't you borrow one to see if it's really the battery, cause that is still the best test to do? Maybe a superfluous question: did you try a hard reset?
regards, Kuzibri
Edit: forgot these two ones:
1. do you have sometimes the issue that during charging your LED goes from orange to green and back?
2. Clean the pins of the device, look if they function well and are equally high and also clean the contacts of battery with a soft clot

kuzibri said:
Sorry, hoped that this would be the "simple" solution of this problem. Does your battery take longer to fully charge than usual? If yes, than, certainly in combination with the drainage, I would replace the battery. Can't you borrow one to see if it's really the battery, cause that is still the best test to do? Maybe a superfluous question: did you try a hard reset?
I don't know any1 else with an HD1 :-(
battery charges quite quickly on the wall socket, slower via usb butbthat's normal...
hard reset?!?!?! noooooooooooooo hahahaha I'm trying to figure out what's the problem to avoid hard resetting and spending 2 days reinstalling and reconfiguring everything
regards, Kuzibri
Edit: forgot these two ones:
1. do you have sometimes the issue that during charging your LED goes from orange to green and back?
no
2. Clean the pins of the device, look if they function well and are equally high and also clean the contacts of battery with a soft clot
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will try...
btw: if I remove batt the time/date changes... is this normal?

thegios said:
will try...
btw: if I remove batt the time/date changes... is this normal?
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AFAIK, this is not normal behaviour, unless you leave it out for hours and hours.
regards, Kuzibri

To [OP]
which program did you use for the screenshot you attached ?

backlashsid said:
which program did you use for the screenshot you attached ?
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You can use the following programs for that:
1. SPB Screenshot
2. Whip2Snap
3. BsB tweaks
regards, Kuzibri

Standby is prevented
thegios said:
Tonight again after 8 hours of standby it went from 100% to 70% !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I have observed this problem also. My tool ResInfo showed me that the device does not change to standby. Only the backlight is switched off. The histogram of the cpu load shows that every few minutes a process becomes quite briefly active. Nevertheless, I could not investigate which module was responsible for it.
Since the ROM update from 1.72 to 3.14 I have not experienced this phenomenon any more.

kuzibri said:
You can use the following programs for that:
1. SPB Screenshot
2. Whip2Snap
3. BsB tweaks
regards, Kuzibri
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man ! i know how to take the screen shot ! i meant which program to give that graph sort of data map !!!!

kuzibri said:
You can use the following programs for that:
1. SPB Screenshot
2. Whip2Snap
3. BsB tweaks
regards, Kuzibri
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actually I have used SPB WIRELESS MONITOR to log the data usage and export the log in a csv file, than imported the log in Excel, gave a little color and formatting and took a screenshot with ALT + PRINTSCREEN

ElectronX said:
I have observed this problem also. My tool ResInfo showed me that the device does not change to standby. Only the backlight is switched off. The histogram of the cpu load shows that every few minutes a process becomes quite briefly active. Nevertheless, I could not investigate which module was responsible for it.
Since the ROM update from 1.72 to 3.14 I have not experienced this phenomenon any more.
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am gonna try ur tool...
btw, dont u have any problem with 3.14?
I mean, sms, cinetic scrolling, others?

ElectronX said:
I have observed this problem also. My tool ResInfo showed me that the device does not change to standby. Only the backlight is switched off. The histogram of the cpu load shows that every few minutes a process becomes quite briefly active. Nevertheless, I could not investigate which module was responsible for it.
Since the ROM update from 1.72 to 3.14 I have not experienced this phenomenon any more.
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Hi,
how can you tell exactly that the phone is not really going to standby?
Would it be possible, in your tool, to add a log function (in csv format) for both battery drain and cpu usage?
I am currently using a task manager tool which in real time shows the running tasks and their cpu usage, but this is almost useless in standby.
What we really need is a tool that, also in standby, keeps on logging active tasks and their cpu usage into a file, let's say every 1-2-4-5-10-15-30 seconds.

thegios said:
Hi,
how can you tell exactly that the phone is not really going to standby?
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If we take the example of the original poster, after charging the battery to 100%, both counters shows 0 hours in the evening.
The next morning one would expect possibly following values:
Battery charge: 97%
Operation: 0h, 2 min, 42 sec
Standby: 8h, 42 min, 42 sec
But if you see this:
Battery charge: 70%
Operation: 8h, 45 min, 42 sec
Standby: 0h, 0 min, 0 sec
Then the device never was in the standby state.
Would it be possible, in your tool, to add a log function (in csv format) for both battery drain and cpu usage?
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Yes, this would be no problem, but...
I am currently using a task manager tool which in real time shows the running tasks and their cpu usage, but this is almost useless in standby.
What we really need is a tool that, also in standby, keeps on logging active tasks and their cpu usage into a file, let's say every 1-2-4-5-10-15-30 seconds.
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This is not possible. Because in standby state, all components of the device are switched without current. Merely the memory (RAM) is supplied still with voltage to data preservation. In addition, the CPU is switched off. Merely a separate, programmable timer and a component for monitoring of the external interfaces are still in company. Therefore, no application can be executed.Hence, such a tool can recognize only after the turning on of the device whether the battery was charged/discharged while in suspend state.
btw, dont u have any problem with 3.14?
I mean, sms, cinetic scrolling, others?
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Here in this post I have written something about this.

thegios said:
it's not a rom problem... when I upgraded to 1.66 stock I was not having this problem... it strted recently... and 3.14 has far too many problems
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I didn't mean to imply that it was the ROM causing the issue, just that a hard reset of the phone's state to a known 'good' condition would remove the doubt of a software change/corruption causing your problems.
If a hard reset and stock ROM still produce the same battery drain then your hardware maybe faulty. To eliminate a software issue try the fresh ROM for a few days without any 3rd party apps installed.

boomboomer said:
I didn't mean to imply that it was the ROM causing the issue, just that a hard reset of the phone's state to a known 'good' condition would remove the doubt of a software change/corruption causing your problems.
If a hard reset and stock ROM still produce the same battery drain then your hardware maybe faulty. To eliminate a software issue try the fresh ROM for a few days without any 3rd party apps installed.
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I may have solved the probelm: removed from auto startip the following links
DelWMPTempFolder from /windows folder
PostBootPopup from /spbbackup folder