I've been busy as crap lately but still wanted to communicate my thoughts...as advised by one of my team members...
Once we have a new larger hard drive put into the Shift and have worked out all of the driver issues for XP and Linux, we can modify the recovery partition on the hard drive to recover three different OS's with all the drivers and components fully functional. I'm sure there are more than these two options but I'm just going to throw two of them out there:
Option 1:
Setup recovery partition to recover ONE of THREE OS's. Vista, XP or some distro of Linux. When the user goes into recovery, they can be presented with a menu saying something like #1: Recover Vista, #2: Recover XP, #3: Recover Linux.
Option 2:
For those that install multiple OS's and "dualboot"...we can go as far as getting it all setup with drivers then create an image so you can recover a multiboot setup or even make it the 4th option.
Maybe we can create two images one with each option above for different users. I myself would probably go with Option 2 even though I use VMWare. I wouldn't mind setting up Vista/XP/Linux to multiboot into the Shift so I can choose which OS. Then making a recovery partition based on this setup so if I screw things up it'll recover the entire thing.
Maybe we could even go as far as adding another capability to Option2 and do something so individual OS's within a multiboot environment are recovered without affecting the other OS's. You never know the possibilities with this.
Your thoughts are always welcome.
/me wants a Shift and/or Athena !
ltxda said:
I've been busy as crap lately but still wanted to communicate my thoughts...as advised by one of my team members...
Once we have a new larger hard drive put into the Shift and have worked out all of the driver issues for XP and Linux, we can modify the recovery partition on the hard drive to recover three different OS's with all the drivers and components fully functional. I'm sure there are more than these two options but I'm just going to throw two of them out there:
Option 1:
Setup recovery partition to recover ONE of THREE OS's. Vista, XP or some distro of Linux. When the user goes into recovery, they can be presented with a menu saying something like #1: Recover Vista, #2: Recover XP, #3: Recover Linux.
Option 2:
For those that install multiple OS's and "dualboot"...we can go as far as getting it all setup with drivers then create an image so you can recover a multiboot setup or even make it the 4th option.
Maybe we can create two images one with each option above for different users. I myself would probably go with Option 2 even though I use VMWare. I wouldn't mind setting up Vista/XP/Linux to multiboot into the Shift so I can choose which OS. Then making a recovery partition based on this setup so if I screw things up it'll recover the entire thing.
Maybe we could even go as far as adding another capability to Option2 and do something so individual OS's within a multiboot environment are recovered without affecting the other OS's. You never know the possibilities with this.
Your thoughts are always welcome.
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Your thoughts sounds nice for me. I ve installed xp, ubuntu and had to overwrite recovery partition in order to install vista properly again. I dream with the idea of having full control (be able to turn on/off wifi/bt) from ubuntu and xp.
Greetings.
Dani
lennysh said:
/me wants a Shift and/or Athena !
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hehehe hey there
cmonex said:
hehehe hey there
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lol!
ltns!
ltxda said:
I've been busy as crap lately but still wanted to communicate my thoughts...as advised by one of my team members...
Once we have a new larger hard drive put into the Shift and have worked out all of the driver issues for XP and Linux, we can modify the recovery partition on the hard drive to recover three different OS's with all the drivers and components fully functional. I'm sure there are more than these two options but I'm just going to throw two of them out there:
Option 1:
Setup recovery partition to recover ONE of THREE OS's. Vista, XP or some distro of Linux. When the user goes into recovery, they can be presented with a menu saying something like #1: Recover Vista, #2: Recover XP, #3: Recover Linux.
Option 2:
For those that install multiple OS's and "dualboot"...we can go as far as getting it all setup with drivers then create an image so you can recover a multiboot setup or even make it the 4th option.
Maybe we can create two images one with each option above for different users. I myself would probably go with Option 2 even though I use VMWare. I wouldn't mind setting up Vista/XP/Linux to multiboot into the Shift so I can choose which OS. Then making a recovery partition based on this setup so if I screw things up it'll recover the entire thing.
Maybe we could even go as far as adding another capability to Option2 and do something so individual OS's within a multiboot environment are recovered without affecting the other OS's. You never know the possibilities with this.
Your thoughts are always welcome.
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This all should be definatly possible the fun will just be getting the recovery stuff working right but I love the idea cause then we just get ppl to download a full disk that will image their drive and its all set to go
ltxda, I would like to order one Athena and one Shift for testing purposes please. Add a little Ubuntu Mobile on the side as well. O, and a large drink.
Ltxda you already know this but for everyone else as well please feel free to ignore Lennysh when he is being crazy
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Is is possible to delete the Vista recovery partition from hardisk and free the space?
Hi
Have a look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=378890
Should be possible. Remember it looks like it is difficult to get full functionality from an alternative Vista installation so you may not want to destroy this partition unless you have a backup and/or HTC release full downloadable drivers.
Recovery partition
I have used BartPE to boot off an external USB DVD Writer.
From within BartPE you can then use Ghost to capture the ENTIRE drive.
The ***Hidden*** restore partition cannot be see by anything, not ghost, not partition magic, not acronis, it simply is not there.
My belief is that this is due to a BIOS restriction and the FN+F3 boot that does allow the restore is either.....
1. A special mode where the bios can see the hidden partition
2. The actual recovery image is on a separate flash area that we can't see.
Either way having the ghost will recover the hard drive.
I have installed both XP and Linux on the Shift and still been able to reboot, press FN+F3 and do a vista re-installation.
This makes me believe the image is on a separate flash device that only the BIOS section can see.
Hope this helps.
Blitz
blitzspear said:
I have used BartPE to boot off an external USB DVD Writer.
From within BartPE you can then use Ghost to capture the ENTIRE drive.
The ***Hidden*** restore partition cannot be see by anything, not ghost, not partition magic, not acronis, it simply is not there.
My belief is that this is due to a BIOS restriction and the FN+F3 boot that does allow the restore is either.....
1. A special mode where the bios can see the hidden partition
2. The actual recovery image is on a separate flash area that we can't see.
Either way having the ghost will recover the hard drive.
I have installed both XP and Linux on the Shift and still been able to reboot, press FN+F3 and do a vista re-installation.
This makes me believe the image is on a separate flash device that only the BIOS section can see.
Hope this helps.
Blitz
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Dude my findings are the same, How did you get XP working did you use the vista drivers? did they work? if not where did you get the drivers from? Please tell as I really could do with a dual boot PC
XP.....
Hi there...
I basically tried installing XP SP2 and then XP Tablet Edition.
Both work great, minus a load of drivers.
You have approximately 800MB RAM free and it flies but you lose all the ability to do touch stuff.
There are drivers i've found out there for the sound/graphics/thumbpad and usb network but others i couldn't find.
As to installing XP it's simple, boot off a USB DVD with XP and just install it, format the entire drive (don't worry it won't see or kill the recovery vista partition if it is a partition, still think it's a separate flash card) and install.
As to the dual booting this is not possible.
I halved the drive using Acronis Disk Suite and whilst it would install, i created two PRIMARY partitions and made the second one bootable.
On restarting i installed XP but then i couldn't get VISTA to boot once i made partition one bootable.
Basically to dual boot XP/VISTA you must install XP first, then install VISTA.
However having investigated this I can find most of the additional software / drivers but the VISTA that is restored is a very optimised installation and just installing VISTA Ultimate or even normal Business may not provide the same experience.
Until we can get access to the RESTORE AREA and get at the image (whatever it may be) I think killing the drive completely to reload VISTA won't be possible.
Our only real hope I think is to get HTC to release XP Drivers (I'm still at a loss to explain why they chose VISTA over XP Tablet Edition). The performance increase with XP over VISTA is quite staggering but the loss of functionality makes it pointless at the moment.
Blitz
Whilst it does provide a much faster overall experience at this time without the driver support it's pointless.
Again Linux is the same, I haven't yet tried installing OSX on it, but that would be even more problematic as Apple don't do drivers for most of the hardware out here that XP / VISTA will detect.
I have resorted to going back to VISTA and removing Origami and a few other bits and pieces and updating to SP1.
I find the whole shift now is much better after installing SP1 and without Origami 2.0 on it.
Hope that helps.
Blitz
installing Windows XP alongside Vista
I've used the method described in this link to install XP on my U810 as a dual-boot alongside the pre-installed Vista.
http://www.pro-networks.org/forum/about88231.html
blitzspear, what devices were not working in XP besides the touchscreen?
Missing drivers
Everything was missing,
had to download VGA driver from intel. but you lose some of the resolutions.
There is a sound driver and a USB Network device available and the mousepad worked.
There's a PCI device missing and no SD/wifi and chipset.
So basically not a lot works.
Regards
Blitz
IIRC the Raon Digital Everun has the same SDIO Wifi component. Maybe you could try its driver?
http://www.raondigital.com/data/WLAN Driver_1_1.zip
WiFI driver for VISTA
Hi, dont You have WiFi SD8686 driver for VISTA, please ?
I reinstaled my Shift to localized Vista and this driver I still miss.
more:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376600
how install ubuntu on a usbpen without remove entire mbr on shift (without put out the hdd)
on my g1s i've detached hdd and installed, everything goes well.
but on the shift how make that. don't want to umount shift.
also, theres no driver for any version of linux that make work touchscreen?
and for vista ultimate, there is an .exe file to make htc hid pen work?
thx in advance for any suggestion.
Copy the content of the CD to a pen and installing it from vista. The installer gives you the posibility to create or not a new partition and the mbr will belong to vista, if you want
danielherrero said:
Copy the content of the CD to a pen and installing it from vista. The installer gives you the posibility to create or not a new partition and the mbr will belong to vista, if you want
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sorry but i want make ubuntu bootable from pen and not on the shift. don't want to loose recovery partition. when i tried on a desktop pc installing on a pen installation formatted all partitions and mbr. on my laptop it tryed to format all partitions. but i've interrupted it and detached hdd.
You can use wubi-installer to install ubuntu on HDD without partitioning and without loosing the recovery partition, it is 100% safe.
If you still want to run it from a USB pendrive, see http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
To get WLAN, 3G and suspend/resume working on ubuntu see my blog:
http://pof.eslack.org/blog/category/htc-shift/
Regarding the touchscreen, I've been working on it and finally today I have managed to write a small kernel module which is able to get raw data from the touchscreen, but it is still far from being usable. I will be working on this for the next few days, so hopefully soon we'll have a working touchscreen driver available
pof said:
You can use wubi-installer to install ubuntu on HDD without partitioning and without loosing the recovery partition, it is 100% safe.
If you still want to run it from a USB pendrive, see http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
To get WLAN, 3G and suspend/resume working on ubuntu see my blog:
http://pof.eslack.org/blog/category/htc-shift/
Regarding the touchscreen, I've been working on it and finally today I have managed to write a small kernel module which is able to get raw data from the touchscreen, but it is still far from being usable. I will be working on this for the next few days, so hopefully soon we'll have a working touchscreen driver available
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nice man, you are a real genius. already followed the guide for pendrivelinux.
but my doubt is. if i try to install ubuntu on the pendrive and execute ubuntu from the pen i've the risk to eliminate my vista?
i'm not able to dump my shift rom and i don't want to loose it if something goes wrong!!
pitt1983 said:
but my doubt is. if i try to install ubuntu on the pendrive and execute ubuntu from the pen i've the risk to eliminate my vista?
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no risk as long as you don't touch the partitions on the HD. The recovery partition is at the end of the disk (last 3GiB of unused space), you should never touch that, and you'll be able to recover always.
The problem people has when installing ubuntu, is that they choose "automatic partitioning" and this takes the biggest unused space found on the HD which really is the recovery partition. If you want to install on the HD, you should create your partitions "Manually" and dont' use the last 3GiB of the HD, that's it.
pof said:
no risk as long as you don't touch the partitions on the HD. The recovery partition is at the end of the disk (last 3GiB of unused space), you should never touch that, and you'll be able to recover always.
The problem people has when installing ubuntu, is that they choose "automatic partitioning" and this takes the biggest unused space found on the HD which really is the recovery partition. If you want to install on the HD, you should create your partitions "Manually" and dont' use the last 3GiB of the HD, that's it.
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thx man! i will try this night. but you know.. if i make a disaster you must teach me step by step how to to recover my recovery partition.
ehehe
I got a copy of Android - I think its 1.6 - running on my laptop - and it seemed to work ok and be stable so I wanted to put it onto the machine permanantly.
Trouble is its decided that nothing else on the machine exists and I can't get back into vista whatever I try
It boots into something called grub loader and the only two options are the normal boot and a sort of safe mode - that lists drivers much like the old one for Windows 95/98 where you could y/n each one...
I really need help to get vista back again since there is stuff I really need like internet banking that I don't think I can do any other way (to be fair I have yet to try)
Thanks in advance
Jemma
Please tell me you partitioned off your hard drive before doing this?
If not then its a reinstall I guess, which isn't to bad as it allows you to install a decent copy of windows such as XP
That quite simply isn't an option - I was told that there is a way of solving it by using a windows CD or boot disk to reload the MBR - I was also told that the file running GRUB can be edited to find windows.
The problem is I don't have another machine and I am on state benefits - I need this computer up and running and I need access to my documents.
I can't seem to mount anything in android - and as the only option is 'format sd card' I don't really want to take it..
Does anyone else have any suggestions?
Jemmauk said:
That quite simply isn't an option - I was told that there is a way of solving it by using a windows CD or boot disk to reload the MBR - I was also told that the file running GRUB can be edited to find windows.
The problem is I don't have another machine and I am on state benefits - I need this computer up and running and I need access to my documents.
I can't seem to mount anything in android - and as the only option is 'format sd card' I don't really want to take it..
Does anyone else have any suggestions?
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Well thanks for the sob story but what does being on benefits have to do with anything?
Anyway simply set your pc bios to boot from cd first, insert disk and boot up. From there you will be asked do you want to install or repair. Choose repair.
I'm unsure of the next step because I don't use Vista *spits* but if you can get to recovery console then you can run fixmbr from the prompt and also there is a boot manager that can fix your boot sector.
Alternatively you could from a dos prompt delete the 1.6 folders and rewrite the msconfig to open windows only.
There is also the root of trying the f8 safe mode boot into admin account and rewrite the msconfig from with windows if accessible from f8 safe.
But hell I ain't anyone else but I guess my 24 years in the business of building custom machine and my extensive knowledge of windows xp and below means nowt? Maybe try being a little less dismissive next time hey?
Add me on gmail - [email protected] if you want me to help you sort it out faster than we can here
Did you create partitions before installing android? if not then windows doesnt exist anymore, which is why grub didnt automatically add it to the list of things to boot (mine always listed everything, but sometimes it doesnt do that automatically)
this happend to me to. I had to use I linux live cd to delete the linux partition. and fix the mbr.
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I'm having some trouble understanding how to get my CPUID. I tried to reply to some of the relevant threads but was not allowed due to some kind of missing "Approval". I'm hoping this gets through. My Acer A500 froze about a week ago while running the clock program. It was used mostly as a night stand toy. I've tried lots of stuff here including trying to install the Acer default roms.
SD_PB_G100W_1.007.03_COM_GEN1.zip and Acer_AV041_A500_1.031.00_WW_GEN1-FULL-ROOT.zip and Acer_AV041_A500_1.054.00_WW_GEN1-FULL-ROOT.zip. I copied these to my SD card one at a time then renamed them update.zip. None worked. I tried several others without success.
I cannot get passed the CPUID thing. I tried the A500 manager and I got nowhere. My windows 7 PC does see this tablet in APX mode "Hold power and reset buttons "and so did the A500 manager. Now the strange part, the A500 manager did not reveal any text on the program for any of the buttons. I used a screenshot found on the forum to blindly use it. Of course, it did not give me the info I need "CPUID" to do much of anything else. The A500 boots to the Acer logo and that all it does. I tried hardware and software reset, Power + -volume and power + + volume move the orientation lock button. The first ends up showing Android guy dead with red exclamation and the second shows erasing and clearing message, reboots back to Acer logo screen and that's it.
If I could get the CPUID from this thing, I would try the other tools from the forum. I have nothing to lose at this point. I read the CPUID forum threads over the last few days and I'm beginning to lose hope. Can someone tell a noob step by step how to get my CPUID? I have never hooked this tab up to a PC before and I do not have access to an XP machine. If this is a clue, if I just power the tab up to the Acer logo screen, the driver fails but in APX mode, the machine sees the tab.
Please let me know if you need any other info. I'm a PC guy and know nothing about any form of linux/ubuntu.
You have a couple of options...
If you've got a nandroid backup you'll find it in a txt file.
If you've previously had it plugged into yr pc use usbfeview.
Use Linux to retrieve it.
Also if yr pc does not recognise yr tab you won't get very far at all. Ensure u have them installed correctly, both the Acer ones and the usb ones
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dibb_nz said:
You have a couple of options...
If you've got a nandroid backup you'll find it in a txt file.
I've never backed up this tab. Where would I find this text file?
If you've previously had it plugged into yr pc use usbfeview.
I've never had it hooked up to a PC before it died.
Use Linux to retrieve it.
I have no clue how to use Linux.
Also if yr pc does not recognise yr tab you won't get very far at all. Ensure u have them installed correctly, both the Acer ones and the usb ones
My PC installs the USB driver correctly in APX mode. When I boot to the Acer logo screen, the driver install fails. I installed the drivers found on the forum before I hooked the tab up to my PC.
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At this point I would pay someone who knows Linux to get this working again. I had planned to use it at a relatives wedding to take pics for them and play music at the reception. Looks like I wont be doing that now. Can you tell me step by step how to get the CPUID? I'm willing to try anything other than using it for target practice.
See the sticky in general forum by srbeen
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See the sticky in general forum by srbeen
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That is much too involved for me. A programmer I am not. Thanks for trying. I have a new target this weekend. :silly:
dibb_nz said:
See the sticky in general forum by srbeen
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Quick question, I have the original retail box, will this help? Will the numbers on the box be my CPUID?
No
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BigJohn15906 said:
That is much too involved for me. A programmer I am not. Thanks for trying. I have a new target this weekend. :silly:
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It is a step by step instruction so no need to be a programmer.
Which part of it is giving you trouble?
eppeP said:
It is a step by step instruction so no need to be a programmer.
Which part of it is giving you trouble?
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I know nothing about Linux. Most guys are telling me I need a Linux machine to fix the tab.
BigJohn15906 said:
I know nothing about Linux. Most guys are telling me I need a Linux machine to fix the tab.
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You don't have to have a linux machine per say. There are 3 ways to install Ubuntu (most popular linux OS) on a normal windows pc.
1) Install Cygwin. This creates a virtual window to run an ubuntu installation
2) VMWare. Again, creates a virtual window to run Ubuntu
3. Install Ubuntu on top of Windows to have a dual boot system (easiest and more efficient method).
The big difference between 1 & 2, and option 3, is that the first 2 options share resources with both Ubuntu and Windows. This can be a little buggy if you don't have a pretty powerful system (i5 and i7 with lots of RAM).
Where as option 3 gives 100% of the system resources as you boot straight to Ubuntu.
The advantage to options 1 & 2, is that it's easy to uninstall when you no longer need Ubuntu.
Just Google "install ubuntu on windows" and several links to do it. It's actually pretty easy.
Another thing to try first is to download these full ICS Update files for the A500 (501 owners can try this also, but you'll have a 500, but that might can be changed later)
These files are already "decrypted" and are named differently as to keep them separate. Download them all to a folder.
Now, select one of them, rename it to "update" (end result is a file called update.zip) copy it to SD card, boot tab and see if it installs. If it hangs on the install, delete it from SD card, and do the same with the next. Hopefully one of them might take. You may have to try all 4 of them before one works. It's hit and miss.
http://d-h.st/Zf8
http://d-h.st/2cm
http://d-h.st/gw8
http://d-h.st/KXl
Hope this gets you going.
MD
And a Big Hello to @dibb_nz glad to see you still helping!
Moscow Desire said:
You don't have to have a linux machine per say. There are 3 ways to install Ubuntu (most popular linux OS) on a normal windows pc.
1) Install Cygwin. This creates a virtual window to run an ubuntu installation
2) VMWare. Again, creates a virtual window to run Ubuntu
3. Install Ubuntu on top of Windows to have a dual boot system (easiest and more efficient method).
The big difference between 1 & 2, and option 3, is that the first 2 options share resources with both Ubuntu and Windows. This can be a little buggy if you don't have a pretty powerful system (i5 and i7 with lots of RAM).
Where as option 3 gives 100% of the system resources as you boot straight to Ubuntu.
The advantage to options 1 & 2, is that it's easy to uninstall when you no longer need Ubuntu.
Just Google "install ubuntu on windows" and several links to do it. It's actually pretty easy.
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I tried a few times to install Ubuntu on my Dell 8400. It's a good PC but I do not understand how to "Compile" or install the drivers needed. Can I do this with "Live CD" or a USB boot of Ubuntu without trying to install drivers? The drivers I need for Ubuntu on my Dell are video and on board sound card drivers. Everything else works from the start. I'm very lost when it comes to any flavor of Linux. I've been asking people on several boards for a few years now if they have a working image for the Dell 8400 they could ship to me but haven't got one yet. I would love to get this tablet up and running again. I saw a few listings for Acer A500 repair on Ebay. I wonder if this might be the best route to take? They are charging $50.00 for software repairs and $130.00 for hardware replacement (Motherboard). The hardware replacement is a little steep as I see some used A500s listed starting at $150.00. I would hate to end up buying someone else headache.
Moscow Desire said:
Another thing to try first is to download these full ICS Update files for the A500 (501 owners can try this also, but you'll have a 500, but that might can be changed later)
These files are already "decrypted" and are named differently as to keep them separate. Download them all to a folder.
Now, select one of them, rename it to "update" (end result is a file called update.zip) copy it to SD card, boot tab and see if it installs. If it hangs on the install, delete it from SD card, and do the same with the next. Hopefully one of them might take. You may have to try all 4 of them before one works. It's hit and miss.
http://d-h.st/Zf8
http://d-h.st/2cm
http://d-h.st/gw8
http://d-h.st/KXl
Hope this gets you going.
MD
And a Big Hello to @dibb_nz glad to see you still helping!
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I tried all of these just the way you said without success. The tab does not see the update zip. It ends up either with dead Android guy with red ! or stuck on the Acer logo screen. :crying:
BigJohn15906 said:
I tried a few times to install Ubuntu on my Dell 8400. It's a good PC but I do not understand how to "Compile" or install the drivers needed. Can I do this with "Live CD" or a USB boot of Ubuntu without trying to install drivers? The drivers I need for Ubuntu on my Dell are video and on board sound card drivers. Everything else works from the start. I'm very lost when it comes to any flavor of Linux. I've been asking people on several boards for a few years now if they have a working image for the Dell 8400 they could ship to me but haven't got one yet. I would love to get this tablet up and running again. I saw a few listings for Acer A500 repair on Ebay. I wonder if this might be the best route to take? They are charging $50.00 for software repairs and $130.00 for hardware replacement (Motherboard). The hardware replacement is a little steep as I see some used A500s listed starting at $150.00. I would hate to end up buying someone else headache.
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If you install, its with a recent "Live CD" (or USB Stick, which I have never used) I prefer the CD version.
I don't have a dell, or know much about them. But if Ubuntu starts up, regardless of sound or perhaps video drivers, there should be no issues in making things work.
As for getting replacement parts, I would think you can almost a better deal with a new device rather than paying for replacement parts.
A working A500/501 goes for about 100-150$ these days,
If the updates I linked you to, didn't work, then it's probably a bad memory block. But you'll have to use Ubuntu, for a couple of reasons, an really no way to avoid it.
1) babsector (although it can be run through windows)
2) UID
Can't help you with your dell Mate, don't own one.
MD
Moscow Desire said:
If you install, its with a recent "Live CD" (or USB Stick, which I have never used) I prefer the CD version.
I don't have a dell, or know much about them. But if Ubuntu starts up, regardless of sound or perhaps video drivers, there should be no issues in making things work.
As for getting replacement parts, I would think you can almost a better deal with a new device rather than paying for replacement parts.
A working A500/501 goes for about 100-150$ these days,
If the updates I linked you to, didn't work, then it's probably a bad memory block. But you'll have to use Ubuntu, for a couple of reasons, an really no way to avoid it.
1) babsector (although it can be run through windows)
2) UID
Can't help you with your dell Mate, don't own one.
MD
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I have an old live CD, Ubuntu 10.X I can try. The Dell 8400 is a business class PC I used in my DJ business. I have 5 of them. I'll just install on one of the idle ones and be done with it. Then I'll stop back to get the files. Thanks for trying Moscow Desire.
Hi,
How to make a PC Triple Boot Android, Windows 7 and Windows 10?
Thanks
M. Al said:
Hi,
How to make a PC Triple Boot Android, Windows 7 and Windows 10?
Thanks
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You can use programs like Partition Magic
Maay gaad, I thought this is a tutorial thread
sure u have 3 hard disk with different Operating System (maybe)
Wondering
How it could be done.
zanodor said:
How it could be done.
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By partitioning your hard drive and then installing each operating system in each partition then use the Grub bootloader software to allow you to choose which of the 3 systems you want to boot when you power on.
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-install-Linux-with-Android-and-windows-10-dual-boot-easy-way
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Hi,
You can also use Virtualbox or other virtualization software to create multiple virtual machine and RUN them on a single machine.
If your computer has good amount of RAM, then you utilize this Virtualbox software. It really works fine. Instead of creating different partition, i think it will be much better option.
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ziafimawad said:
sure u have 3 hard disk with different Operating System (maybe)
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I am curious how to do it?
Saenyu67 said:
I am curious how to do it?
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You can use 1 hard drive or 2 hard drives or 3 hard drives, it works the same regardless of how many you use. It's easily done with just 1 hard drive. If you look at my previous post a few posts back in this thread, you will see a link with instructions to partition your hard drive to create a partition for each of the OS's that you want to install, then you install each operating system in each separate partition that you choose to install them in.
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How to make a PC Triple Boot Android, Windows 7 and Windows 10
Windows booting is a simple process. You can easily boot your windows 7 OR Windows 10
you can useing some free tools for booting window 10 and windows 7.
I can explained here how to boot a drive easily. I think it will benefit you. For than messege me personally.
Thank you very much.
mdakashhossain said:
Windows booting is a simple process. You can easily boot your windows 7 OR Windows 10
you can useing some free tools for booting window 10 and windows 7.
I can explained here how to boot a drive easily. I think it will benefit you. For than messege me personally.
Thank you very much.
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You don't understand what they are trying to do.
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for android, you can use "bluestacks" on windows
So you want to use Windows 10, Windows 7 and Android on PC. For that first create 3 or 4 partitions one for windows 10, one for windows 7 and one for android. Install Windows 10 and Windows 7 on separate partitions and you will see that you have a option to boot into windows 7 or 10. now to install Android use a android based OS such as Prime OS and install it on a separate partition. You can use the pre installed grub or you can use grub2win to get all operating systems that you need
mdakashhossain said:
How to make a PC Triple Boot Android, Windows 7 and Windows 10
Windows booting is a simple process. You can easily boot your windows 7 OR Windows 10
you can useing some free tools for booting window 10 and windows 7.
I can explained here how to boot a drive easily. I think it will benefit you. For than messege me personally.
Thank you very much.
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Hey there I'm also interested in this I currently have garuda Linux and can't get Windows 10 on
I've done this for a while, my easiest solution is:
1. Make 3 or 4 partitions. Windows 10, windows 7, data partition, and a Linux partition. (There may more created e.g. a system partition). Dont touch the data partition throughout all of this except for storing your OS ISO, liveboot ISO, other program files etc.
2. Install windows 7 on windows 7 partition.
3. Install windows 10 on windows 10 partition. Can be installed from windows 7. Let windows handle making a windows bootloader which can now boot into windows 7 or 10.
4. Create a live USB in ine of your windows. I've been using Ubuntu but used Fedora for years prior. If you aren't sure if you need x64 then go woth the 32 bit x86 architecture (useful to be able to boot on 32 and 64 bit machines). Now boot up your live USB into Linux and install automatically onto Linux partition. You'll now have a GRUB bootloader which can boot into Linux or into your windows bootloader.
5. Install android emulator. I used Linux as I felt I would get better performance emulating android in Linux, this may or may not be true.
There will things that you might find as a nuisance, for example when I boot into windows 7 from windows 10, I need to boot into the GRUB to windows bootloader, select windows 7 and it reboots again back into GRUB and then into windows 7. Not a big deal unless you want to switch OS a lot. If this is the case, you may want to just emulate to begin with. I have a laptop with *ok* processor and RAM, not the best for emulating another OS.
There is many options - you could even install Linux within windows if you so choose. Ultimately the best path will be based on your knowledge, specs of your PC ( power, ram, disk space, disk type [fora mount of partitions], BIOS/UEFI, etc. The method I laid out is the most automated and easiest method I have come up with. Don't try installing windows on top of Linux, you'll cause a headache fixing everything for your Linux system. But then again, everything I've done in Linux the hard way has helped me to understand Linux better. I've just found that even laying out all of the partitions manually for Linux can be challenging, especially if you only have 1 computer and your data is not backed up elsewhere. Start with a blank machine if you can, and have another computer on hand, then you'll have an easy time starting over if necessary. Theres still so many more options of how to do what you are asking... good luck and happy tripple booting
Flash-ARMy said:
I've done this for a while, my easiest solution is:
1. Make 3 or 4 partitions. Windows 10, windows 7, data partition, and a Linux partition. (There may more created e.g. a system partition). Dont touch the data partition throughout all of this except for storing your OS ISO, liveboot ISO, other program files etc.
2. Install windows 7 on windows 7 partition.
3. Install windows 10 on windows 10 partition. Can be installed from windows 7. Let windows handle making a windows bootloader which can now boot into windows 7 or 10.
4. Create a live USB in ine of your windows. I've been using Ubuntu but used Fedora for years prior. If you aren't sure if you need x64 then go woth the 32 bit x86 architecture (useful to be able to boot on 32 and 64 bit machines). Now boot up your live USB into Linux and install automatically onto Linux partition. You'll now have a GRUB bootloader which can boot into Linux or into your windows bootloader.
5. Install android emulator. I used Linux as I felt I would get better performance emulating android in Linux, this may or may not be true.
There will things that you might find as a nuisance, for example when I boot into windows 7 from windows 10, I need to boot into the GRUB to windows bootloader, select windows 7 and it reboots again back into GRUB and then into windows 7. Not a big deal unless you want to switch OS a lot. If this is the case, you may want to just emulate to begin with. I have a laptop with *ok* processor and RAM, not the best for emulating another OS.
There is many options - you could even install Linux within windows if you so choose. Ultimately the best path will be based on your knowledge, specs of your PC ( power, ram, disk space, disk type [fora mount of partitions], BIOS/UEFI, etc. The method I laid out is the most automated and easiest method I have come up with. Don't try installing windows on top of Linux, you'll cause a headache fixing everything for your Linux system. But then again, everything I've done in Linux the hard way has helped me to understand Linux better. I've just found that even laying out all of the partitions manually for Linux can be challenging, especially if you only have 1 computer and your data is not backed up elsewhere. Start with a blank machine if you can, and have another computer on hand, then you'll have an easy time starting over if necessary. Theres still so many more options of how to do what you are asking... good luck and happy tripple booting
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Yes, exactly what I was indirectly suggesting. I've done it the way you describe before, but, alternatively, you can just create 2 partitions on your hard drive then install Win10 and Win7 in those partitions then create a Linux live USB or even install a full Linux distro on a fairly large USB flashdrive/external hard drive(preferably something that has solid state storage, this enables faster booting and performance and allows installing drivers and packages) and then go into BIOS and set your boot priority to boot from USB first, save changes and exit. Then, when you want to boot Linux you just connect your external drive/USB then reboot the device and it will automatically boot Linux without having to use grub and when the Linux drive isn't connected you will be able to boot 10 and 7 via windows bootloader. A little more round about but makes booting back and forth between operating systems.
Droidriven said:
Yes, exactly what I was indirectly suggesting. I've done it the way you describe before, but, alternatively, you can just create 2 partitions on your hard drive then install Win10 and Win7 in those partitions then create a Linux live USB or even install a full Linux distro on a fairly large USB flashdrive/external hard drive(preferably something that has solid state storage, this enables faster booting and performance and allows installing drivers and packages) and then go into BIOS and set your boot priority to boot from USB first, save changes and exit. Then, when you want to boot Linux you just connect your external drive/USB then reboot the device and it will automatically boot Linux without having to use grub and when the Linux drive isn't connected you will be able to boot 10 and 7 via windows bootloader. A little more round about but makes booting back and forth between operating systems.
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I had a project to run Windoes 10 on an SD card, which proved to be more difficult than I tbought it would be. I didn't think it should have been difficult, but it seems software amd hard tales measures to prevent this from being possible / "easy". Linux is quite easy to use a live USB, so I've done that quite a bit (I'd keep a 32 bit live USB on my Keychain). I don't think I was ever able to update drivers or install updates to the live USB, however I didn't make much of an effort too. I basically used it as a save my ass tool, which it certainly did come in useful quite often in the course of my personal/school/work computer needs.
Flash-ARMy said:
I had a project to run Windoes 10 on an SD card, which proved to be more difficult than I tbought it would be. I didn't think it should have been difficult, but it seems software amd hard tales measures to prevent this from being possible / "easy". Linux is quite easy to use a live USB, so I've done that quite a bit (I'd keep a 32 bit live USB on my Keychain). I don't think I was ever able to update drivers or install updates to the live USB, however I didn't make much of an effort too. I basically used it as a save my ass tool, which it certainly did come in useful quite often in the course of my personal/school/work computer needs.
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Instead of installing Linux live on USB, you can do a full installation of Linux on the USB the same as you would when installing Linux on hard drive. A Live USB can be setup with a persist partition to provide a bit of storage on the USB but it isn't enough to do anything with that is useful, that is why it is better to just install the distro on USB instead of using USB to run Linux live.