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Is it possible to free the Vista recovery partition?

As title!
Is is possible to delete the Vista recovery partition from hardisk and free the space?

Hi
Have a look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=378890
Should be possible. Remember it looks like it is difficult to get full functionality from an alternative Vista installation so you may not want to destroy this partition unless you have a backup and/or HTC release full downloadable drivers.

Recovery partition
I have used BartPE to boot off an external USB DVD Writer.
From within BartPE you can then use Ghost to capture the ENTIRE drive.
The ***Hidden*** restore partition cannot be see by anything, not ghost, not partition magic, not acronis, it simply is not there.
My belief is that this is due to a BIOS restriction and the FN+F3 boot that does allow the restore is either.....
1. A special mode where the bios can see the hidden partition
2. The actual recovery image is on a separate flash area that we can't see.
Either way having the ghost will recover the hard drive.
I have installed both XP and Linux on the Shift and still been able to reboot, press FN+F3 and do a vista re-installation.
This makes me believe the image is on a separate flash device that only the BIOS section can see.
Hope this helps.
Blitz

blitzspear said:
I have used BartPE to boot off an external USB DVD Writer.
From within BartPE you can then use Ghost to capture the ENTIRE drive.
The ***Hidden*** restore partition cannot be see by anything, not ghost, not partition magic, not acronis, it simply is not there.
My belief is that this is due to a BIOS restriction and the FN+F3 boot that does allow the restore is either.....
1. A special mode where the bios can see the hidden partition
2. The actual recovery image is on a separate flash area that we can't see.
Either way having the ghost will recover the hard drive.
I have installed both XP and Linux on the Shift and still been able to reboot, press FN+F3 and do a vista re-installation.
This makes me believe the image is on a separate flash device that only the BIOS section can see.
Hope this helps.
Blitz
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Dude my findings are the same, How did you get XP working did you use the vista drivers? did they work? if not where did you get the drivers from? Please tell as I really could do with a dual boot PC

XP.....
Hi there...
I basically tried installing XP SP2 and then XP Tablet Edition.
Both work great, minus a load of drivers.
You have approximately 800MB RAM free and it flies but you lose all the ability to do touch stuff.
There are drivers i've found out there for the sound/graphics/thumbpad and usb network but others i couldn't find.
As to installing XP it's simple, boot off a USB DVD with XP and just install it, format the entire drive (don't worry it won't see or kill the recovery vista partition if it is a partition, still think it's a separate flash card) and install.
As to the dual booting this is not possible.
I halved the drive using Acronis Disk Suite and whilst it would install, i created two PRIMARY partitions and made the second one bootable.
On restarting i installed XP but then i couldn't get VISTA to boot once i made partition one bootable.
Basically to dual boot XP/VISTA you must install XP first, then install VISTA.
However having investigated this I can find most of the additional software / drivers but the VISTA that is restored is a very optimised installation and just installing VISTA Ultimate or even normal Business may not provide the same experience.
Until we can get access to the RESTORE AREA and get at the image (whatever it may be) I think killing the drive completely to reload VISTA won't be possible.
Our only real hope I think is to get HTC to release XP Drivers (I'm still at a loss to explain why they chose VISTA over XP Tablet Edition). The performance increase with XP over VISTA is quite staggering but the loss of functionality makes it pointless at the moment.
Blitz
Whilst it does provide a much faster overall experience at this time without the driver support it's pointless.
Again Linux is the same, I haven't yet tried installing OSX on it, but that would be even more problematic as Apple don't do drivers for most of the hardware out here that XP / VISTA will detect.
I have resorted to going back to VISTA and removing Origami and a few other bits and pieces and updating to SP1.
I find the whole shift now is much better after installing SP1 and without Origami 2.0 on it.
Hope that helps.
Blitz

installing Windows XP alongside Vista
I've used the method described in this link to install XP on my U810 as a dual-boot alongside the pre-installed Vista.
http://www.pro-networks.org/forum/about88231.html
blitzspear, what devices were not working in XP besides the touchscreen?

Missing drivers
Everything was missing,
had to download VGA driver from intel. but you lose some of the resolutions.
There is a sound driver and a USB Network device available and the mousepad worked.
There's a PCI device missing and no SD/wifi and chipset.
So basically not a lot works.
Regards
Blitz

IIRC the Raon Digital Everun has the same SDIO Wifi component. Maybe you could try its driver?
http://www.raondigital.com/data/WLAN Driver_1_1.zip

WiFI driver for VISTA
Hi, dont You have WiFi SD8686 driver for VISTA, please ?
I reinstaled my Shift to localized Vista and this driver I still miss.
more:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376600

No boot and Fn+F3 doesnt work. HELP¡

Hi.
I ve installed ubuntu on a partition and works correctly. But when I booted vista OS I saw tipical windows blue screen error after some seconds. Probably Ubunty moved a important file when resized the particions. Ok, I ve formatted vista partition (using ubuntu live cd) but when I try to install Vista the installer fails creating a partion. In fact the installer doesnt see any partition. Only the entire disk. And when I boot using fn+f3 (to recover vista) the screen keeps black and nothing happens after the question "all the data will be erased, bla, bla". I know the recovery partition is there because I can see it with Ubuntu live CD. Please, any idea? I am happy with ubuntu but I need vista or xp too.
Dani

If you don't mind having a Spanish Vista, I can dump the recovery partition for you and provide instructions on how to write it, so you will be able to recover Vista with Fn+F3.

Thanks¡¡¡, It would be nice.... I am lost...

How to dump and restore the Vista recovery partition:
http://pof.eslack.org/blog/2008/04/...re-the-vista-recovery-partition-on-htc-shift/
I will send you the 'shift-vista-recovery.bin' file once I finish dumping it.

ouch that sucks ... pof have you been able to dual boot and do you think that it's an isolate issue?

koala996 said:
ouch that sucks ... pof have you been able to dual boot and do you think that it's an isolate issue?
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yes, he has overwritten the HPA because he did a wrong partitioning. I'm sending him mine so he can recover.
To avoid breaking things you have two choices when partitioning the Shift:
1) Understand how the HPA works in the Shift, so you just need to avoid overwriting the last 3GiB (3.2 GB) of your 40 GB HDD.
or
2) Make any changes to the partition table using a "dumb" system like Vista, which doesn't see the the HPA, so doesn't allow you to screw it.
And for really newbie people, the best is to use wubi-installer, which does not require you to modify the partitions on the shift, as it installs ubuntu as if it was a windows program.

pof said:
yes, he has overwritten the HPA because he did a wrong partitioning. I'm sending him mine so he can recover.
To avoid breaking things you have two choices when partitioning the Shift:
1) Understand how the HPA works in the Shift, so you just need to avoid overwriting the last 3GiB (3.2 GB) of your 40 GB HDD.
or
2) Make any changes to the partition table using a "dumb" system like Vista, which doesn't see the the HPA, so doesn't allow you to screw it.
And for really newbie people, the best is to use wubi-installer, which does not require you to modify the partitions on the shift, as it installs ubuntu as if it was a windows program.
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ok .. but there are many Linux that can be installed in the partition on Vista without needing to have 2 partitions... isn't it ? .. I don't know if Ubuntu is able to do it.. but I know that Mandrake/Mandriva could do it easily

koala996 said:
ok .. but there are many Linux that can be installed in the partition on Vista without needing to have 2 partitions... isn't it ? .. I don't know if Ubuntu is able to do it.. but I know that Mandrake/Mandriva could do it easily
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yes, that's exactly what wubi-installer does.

pof said:
yes, that's exactly what wubi-installer does.
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ok .. I didn't know wubi.. I'm used having a partition for each os

Please get a shift-vista-recovery.bin
I format my drive an install Ubuntu Hardy 8.04 and lost a HPA partition

Multi-Recover partition idea...

I've been busy as crap lately but still wanted to communicate my thoughts...as advised by one of my team members...
Once we have a new larger hard drive put into the Shift and have worked out all of the driver issues for XP and Linux, we can modify the recovery partition on the hard drive to recover three different OS's with all the drivers and components fully functional. I'm sure there are more than these two options but I'm just going to throw two of them out there:
Option 1:
Setup recovery partition to recover ONE of THREE OS's. Vista, XP or some distro of Linux. When the user goes into recovery, they can be presented with a menu saying something like #1: Recover Vista, #2: Recover XP, #3: Recover Linux.
Option 2:
For those that install multiple OS's and "dualboot"...we can go as far as getting it all setup with drivers then create an image so you can recover a multiboot setup or even make it the 4th option.
Maybe we can create two images one with each option above for different users. I myself would probably go with Option 2 even though I use VMWare. I wouldn't mind setting up Vista/XP/Linux to multiboot into the Shift so I can choose which OS. Then making a recovery partition based on this setup so if I screw things up it'll recover the entire thing.
Maybe we could even go as far as adding another capability to Option2 and do something so individual OS's within a multiboot environment are recovered without affecting the other OS's. You never know the possibilities with this.
Your thoughts are always welcome.

/me wants a Shift and/or Athena !

ltxda said:
I've been busy as crap lately but still wanted to communicate my thoughts...as advised by one of my team members...
Once we have a new larger hard drive put into the Shift and have worked out all of the driver issues for XP and Linux, we can modify the recovery partition on the hard drive to recover three different OS's with all the drivers and components fully functional. I'm sure there are more than these two options but I'm just going to throw two of them out there:
Option 1:
Setup recovery partition to recover ONE of THREE OS's. Vista, XP or some distro of Linux. When the user goes into recovery, they can be presented with a menu saying something like #1: Recover Vista, #2: Recover XP, #3: Recover Linux.
Option 2:
For those that install multiple OS's and "dualboot"...we can go as far as getting it all setup with drivers then create an image so you can recover a multiboot setup or even make it the 4th option.
Maybe we can create two images one with each option above for different users. I myself would probably go with Option 2 even though I use VMWare. I wouldn't mind setting up Vista/XP/Linux to multiboot into the Shift so I can choose which OS. Then making a recovery partition based on this setup so if I screw things up it'll recover the entire thing.
Maybe we could even go as far as adding another capability to Option2 and do something so individual OS's within a multiboot environment are recovered without affecting the other OS's. You never know the possibilities with this.
Your thoughts are always welcome.
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Your thoughts sounds nice for me. I ve installed xp, ubuntu and had to overwrite recovery partition in order to install vista properly again. I dream with the idea of having full control (be able to turn on/off wifi/bt) from ubuntu and xp.
Greetings.
Dani

lennysh said:
/me wants a Shift and/or Athena !
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hehehe hey there

cmonex said:
hehehe hey there
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lol!
ltns!

ltxda said:
I've been busy as crap lately but still wanted to communicate my thoughts...as advised by one of my team members...
Once we have a new larger hard drive put into the Shift and have worked out all of the driver issues for XP and Linux, we can modify the recovery partition on the hard drive to recover three different OS's with all the drivers and components fully functional. I'm sure there are more than these two options but I'm just going to throw two of them out there:
Option 1:
Setup recovery partition to recover ONE of THREE OS's. Vista, XP or some distro of Linux. When the user goes into recovery, they can be presented with a menu saying something like #1: Recover Vista, #2: Recover XP, #3: Recover Linux.
Option 2:
For those that install multiple OS's and "dualboot"...we can go as far as getting it all setup with drivers then create an image so you can recover a multiboot setup or even make it the 4th option.
Maybe we can create two images one with each option above for different users. I myself would probably go with Option 2 even though I use VMWare. I wouldn't mind setting up Vista/XP/Linux to multiboot into the Shift so I can choose which OS. Then making a recovery partition based on this setup so if I screw things up it'll recover the entire thing.
Maybe we could even go as far as adding another capability to Option2 and do something so individual OS's within a multiboot environment are recovered without affecting the other OS's. You never know the possibilities with this.
Your thoughts are always welcome.
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This all should be definatly possible the fun will just be getting the recovery stuff working right but I love the idea cause then we just get ppl to download a full disk that will image their drive and its all set to go

ltxda, I would like to order one Athena and one Shift for testing purposes please. Add a little Ubuntu Mobile on the side as well. O, and a large drink.

Ltxda you already know this but for everyone else as well please feel free to ignore Lennysh when he is being crazy

Can't install Windows 10 Technical Preview

I can't install Windows 10 Technical Preview on my Samsung RV509 laptop (Core i5 and 6Gigs of RAM). I tried doing a clean install, and once I boot from the flash stick It gets stuck on the Windows logo and the loading dots doesn't appear, so I tried to do an upgrade from Windows 7 and once it restarts it gets stuck on the windows logo and doesn't load after that (I tried both 32 and 64bit versions) then i get the error 0xC1900101-0x20017. So I tried to install it inside a virtual machine and i tried another machine,and it did install just fine. I tried everything I can from trying to launch the setup from the command prompt but still once it restarts it gets stuck on the windows logo. I'm not sure what do I need to do to get it to install and boot. I've tried with every single build since the insider program started till 9926.
I would really appreciate any help in this matter. Thank you.

I think you didn't really tried a clean install, since you wrote that you've tried to upgrade later. Clean install means you erase all traces of previous system installation. Also, it's good to delete all partitions. Maybe you're hard disk is MBR formatted and Windows 10 requires GPT (just a suggestion, I'm not sure about that).
Secondly, are you trying an UEFI install? I've had Win10 for a couple of months now but I remember having problems with starting UEFI installation from USB stick. To do this, you have to change partition layout on usb stick to GPT, then make new primary partition, format it to FAT32 and copy all files from install iso to usb stick. Then you can start your install in UEFI mode and I think this will help you. Just remember to delete all partitions and let Windows create new partition layout for you, this way it will create EFI partition.
If the installer says it can't create partitions in UEFI mode, you will have to change partition layout to GPT by yourselft. You can put your hdd in a PC and use a Windows based tool (search google) or maybe some Linux LiveCD will let you do that without removing your hdd.

All I did was just use demon tools and install over my w7. It installed as Uefi. Don't like it and w10 gave me an option on restart to roll back my system. I did and went back to w7.

You shouldn't use Daemon Tools to install Windows from an ISO. If Windows needs to reference a file inside the Install.wim folder on the disc for any reason, that copy will fail as the disc it's using is not a physical disc, but a virtual one that the new installation has no knowledge of. The best way to install Windows from an ISO is to copy the ISO to a flash drive or to the local hard disk and run setup that way, or use Rufus to create a bootable USB media for installing. That could be related to your error codes.

Thank you sanshinron for your reply. I always do a clean install for windows, the only reason that i tried to upgrade is that the setup didn't even load when booting from a USB stick (stuck on the windows logo). The USB stick was created using Microsoft's "Windows 7 USB DVD Download Tool". The same stick loads fine on other PCs. I will try to do what you suggested with the USB stick and give it another try.
sanshinron said:
I think you didn't really tried a clean install, since you wrote that you've tried to upgrade later. Clean install means you erase all traces of previous system installation. Also, it's good to delete all partitions. Maybe you're hard disk is MBR formatted and Windows 10 requires GPT (just a suggestion, I'm not sure about that).
Secondly, are you trying an UEFI install? I've had Win10 for a couple of months now but I remember having problems with starting UEFI installation from USB stick. To do this, you have to change partition layout on usb stick to GPT, then make new primary partition, format it to FAT32 and copy all files from install iso to usb stick. Then you can start your install in UEFI mode and I think this will help you. Just remember to delete all partitions and let Windows create new partition layout for you, this way it will create EFI partition.
If the installer says it can't create partitions in UEFI mode, you will have to change partition layout to GPT by yourselft. You can put your hdd in a PC and use a Windows based tool (search google) or maybe some Linux LiveCD will let you do that without removing your hdd.
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try https://rufus.akeo.ie/ for the usb install

onebyside said:
try https://rufus.akeo.ie/ for the usb install
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I tried both Rufus and ISO2Disk to make the USB stick GPT, but still i'm having the same issue with the setup not loading.

toulan said:
I tried both Rufus and ISO2Disk to make the USB stick GPT, but still i'm having the same issue with the setup not loading.
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I installed UEFI without a problem, is there a reason your set on GPT?

I tried everything with the USB drive and it just installs fine on other pcs. I guess this could be because of hardware not supported yet by Microsoft in the current windows 10 builds. I found many people having the same issue. I just hoped there could be a fix to get the installer to start

I encountered same boot-hang problem when clean installing Win 8.1, and Win 10 shouldn't be different. My solutions:
Post-install boot-hang: The hang at logo boot happens when I don't format the install-to partitition with Win 8.1 installer (I normally partition/format using another tool, to skip the redundant WinRE partition that Win creates). Formatting with the installer allows the boot to complete (you can still keep the original partitioning).
Pre-install boot-hang: Some PCs are idiosyncratic with USB boot; likewise, some USB sticks are "different" from others. I found that using DiskPart to partition & format the USB stick (like a HDD) works when Rufus & straight formatting wouldn't. This, admittedly from a small sample set of one particular problematic combo. Simpler is just try to use different USB sticks.

toulan said:
then i get the error 0xC1900101-0x20017
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This error indicates an update issue.
Try this:
- Ingersoll mini tool partition wizard
- check your disk type
If it's GPT,
- download minitool portable ISO and burn on USB with UUI.
- boot to the application and convert GPT to MBR
- Format the C: partition or wherever the previous windows was installed
- then overwrite it with win10
If it's UEFI change it from the bios. Turn off secure boot and everything.
Try and let me know.

Is there Windows 10 for Nokia Lumia 625?

Tiash420 said:
This error indicates an update issue.
Try this:
- Ingersoll mini tool partition wizard
- check your disk type
If it's GPT,
- download minitool portable ISO and burn on USB with UUI.
- boot to the application and convert GPT to MBR
- Format the C: partition or wherever the previous windows was installed
- then overwrite it with win10
If it's UEFI change it from the bios. Turn off secure boot and everything.
Try and let me know.
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After using the minitool partition wizard i found out that it was already MBR.

feherneoh said:
Does that pc have Win8.1 installed with UEFI?
If so, connect installer drive, go to shutdown menu, hold shift, press restart
Then select Use device => UEFI USB
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Tried it, but still the same issue.

Then turn off safe boot and try format the whole disk and start Windows installation from scratch?
Only if you want Windows 10 badly and are ready to sacrifice your data.
Caution: This 'might' work. No guarantees.

Tiash420 said:
Then turn off safe boot and try format the whole disk and start Windows installation from scratch?
Only if you want Windows 10 badly and are ready to sacrifice your data.
Caution: This 'might' work. No guarantees.
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Tried it, but it didn't work. I think this could be an issue with a hardware that is not supported yet by the preview. I guess i'll have to wait for that to change in next builds.

toulan said:
Tried it, but it didn't work. I think this could be an issue with a hardware that is not supported yet by the preview. I guess i'll have to wait for that to change in next builds.
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That might be it cause it's a preview and they sure are known for this kinda issue

Tried build 10041 and still same issue.

toulan said:
Tried build 10041 and still same issue.
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My Laptop is SAMSUNG RV509 but with intel core i3 1st Generation and 2 GB of RAM inside
And I have the same problem with you when trying to install Windows 10 Technical Preview even with it's latest version just like you, get stuck at begin of instalation process, Windows logo appear without any waiting animation (circle of dots), and nothing happen after that.
Just like you, I'm trying install it so many time and so many way such as update latest version of BIOS, but nothing change.
So, if you have a solution for our laptop, please take your time to guide me.
"Sorry if any inconvenience come to your attention with my English writing skill"

shinstar123 said:
My Laptop is SAMSUNG RV509 but with intel core i3 1st Generation and 2 GB of RAM inside
And I have the same problem with you when trying to install Windows 10 Technical Preview even with it's latest version just like you, get stuck at begin of instalation process, Windows logo appear without any waiting animation (circle of dots), and nothing happen after that.
Just like you, I'm trying install it so many time and so many way such as update latest version of BIOS, but nothing change.
So, if you have a solution for our laptop, please take your time to guide me.
"Sorry if any inconvenience come to your attention with my English writing skill"
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Of course, once i find a solution i will post it here, so far no luck.

Phoenix OS Single boot

Hello
I'm using Phoenix OS on dual boot with windows but I would like to single boot with Phoenix OS.
Anybody has an idea please
Thanks for attention and sorry, I'm better in french [emoji6]
Fraway

Hello. We are here now.

Phoenix OS [USB]
I have Linux,I've downloaded The iso of PhoenixOS (both version 1.1.3 & 1.2.1),Created a LiveUsb(USB*) installation
But when the installation is done,The USB** won't boot ,The PC skips it and boots from the Hard drive
Idk whether it's a grub error or not
Note:I've tried the grub 2 (Created a partition for it in the USB**),and I've skipped it the second time but the result was the same)
I accepted the Grub Boot loader option Both times
USB* = The Live USB
USB** = The USB where I want Phoenix OS To be installed

I had similar problems with the installation program, however, I solved it by downloading the iso file and "burning" that onto a USB stick with the help of another piece of software cold Rufus.
After that things went well, now writing this on my old HP Probook single booting PhoenixOS.
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I have Linux,I've downloaded The iso of PhoenixOS (both version 1.1.3 & 1.2.1),Created a LiveUsb(USB*) installation
But when the installation is done,The USB** won't boot ,The PC skips it and boots from the Hard drive
Idk whether it's a grub error or not
Note:I've tried the grub 2 (Created a partition for it in the USB**),and I've skipped it the second time but the result was the same)
I accepted the Grub Boot loader option Both times
USB* = The Live USB
USB** = The USB where I want Phoenix OS To be installed
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treris said:
I had similar problems with the installation program, however, I solved it by downloading the iso file and "burning" that onto a USB stick with the help of another piece of software cold Rufus.
After that things went well, now writing this on my old HP Probook single booting PhoenixOS.
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Ik Ik
I did the same thing,but when all is done,I get the "No Operating system found" error

Hymn said:
Ik Ik
I did the same thing,but when all is done,I get the "No Operating system found" error
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By all is done, do you mean after single boot installation onto the hard drive or after installation of the iso onto the usb?
If it's after installation onto the usb, then perhaps you should check whether rufus is formatting the usb to vfat format.
If it's after single boot installation onto the hard drive, had that problem as well, found out that in order for grub2 to work on single boot machines you actually have to make a boot/grub partition next to the normal partition. I was not used to that from other linux installations so I didn't do that as first and got nowhere. After reading somewhere that grub2 needs a separate partition in this case, I reformatted the hard drive in my laptop into two partitions:
sda1: size 350 MB, bootable and vfat -> basically just for grub, the size may be overkill, but on today's hard drives, who cares right?
sda2: size (the rest of the hard drive), ext4 ->all other files and personal data
Then during install use both the grub2 and grub installation option (to sda1) and things should work I think.
Hope this helps!

treris said:
By all is done, do you mean after single boot installation onto the hard drive or after installation of the iso onto the usb?
If it's after installation onto the usb, then perhaps you should check whether rufus is formatting the usb to vfat format.
If it's after single boot installation onto the hard drive, had that problem as well, found out that in order for grub2 to work on single boot machines you actually have to make a boot/grub partition next to the normal partition. I was not used to that from other linux installations so I didn't do that as first and got nowhere. After reading somewhere that grub2 needs a separate partition in this case, I reformatted the hard drive in my laptop into two partitions:
sda1: size 350 MB, bootable and vfat -> basically just for grub, the size may be overkill, but on today's hard drives, who cares right?
sda2: size (the rest of the hard drive), ext4 ->all other files and personal data
Then during install use both the grub2 and grub installation option (to sda1) and things should work I think.
Hope this helps!
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thanks man it really works!!

Still Missing OS
Hey treris,
First of all, thanks for the excellent info that you've been providing for the single boot Phoenix OS install.
I'm just comfortable enough with computers to get into trouble, but I'm still having an issue with getting Phoenix to boot despite following the steps you indicated. No apparent probs with using rufus. I used Gparted to create 2 partitions on the comp, a 350MB for grub (used manage flags to set it as boot) and the other partition in ext 4. Ran through the install process and while the USB was inserted, no problem, but rebooting without it resulted in the MISSING OS error.
Now, in Gparted I noticed that the 350MB partition (sda20) name is showing as ROOT-B and the ext4 partition (sda23) is named GRUB. As a demonstration of my lack of knowledge in this, it seems that the drive with grub on it should be named grub by the system and not root-b.
Any idea as to where I screwed this up?
Thanks for any help!
treris said:
By all is done, do you mean after single boot installation onto the hard drive or after installation of the iso onto the usb?
If it's after installation onto the usb, then perhaps you should check whether rufus is formatting the usb to vfat format.
If it's after single boot installation onto the hard drive, had that problem as well, found out that in order for grub2 to work on single boot machines you actually have to make a boot/grub partition next to the normal partition. I was not used to that from other linux installations so I didn't do that as first and got nowhere. After reading somewhere that grub2 needs a separate partition in this case, I reformatted the hard drive in my laptop into two partitions:
sda1: size 350 MB, bootable and vfat -> basically just for grub, the size may be overkill, but on today's hard drives, who cares right?
sda2: size (the rest of the hard drive), ext4 ->all other files and personal data
Then during install use both the grub2 and grub installation option (to sda1) and things should work I think.
Hope this helps!
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Hi SWAMPISH,
It seems like Grub is installed in both partitions, not just in the one dedicated to it. How many partitions do you have in total on that hard drive that you end up with partitions called sda20 and sda23?
My guess would be that somewhere during installation things got mixed up and Grub was installed to the wrong partition meaning it cannot find the boot image. The fact that the partition meant for Grub is now called ROOT and the partition meant for the OS is now GRUB kinda indicates that as well.
I would advise to reinstall PhoenixOS using the installer, you'll wont need gparted for this, and then make sure you reformat both sda20 and sda23 and double check whether Grub goes to sda20 and Phoenix is installed on sda23.
Let me know if this helps.
PS are you installing the current stable version of PhoenixOS (with Android 5.1) or the beta version of PhoenixOS (with Android 7.1)?
SWAMPISH said:
Hey treris,
First of all, thanks for the excellent info that you've been providing for the single boot Phoenix OS install.
I'm just comfortable enough with computers to get into trouble, but I'm still having an issue with getting Phoenix to boot despite following the steps you indicated. No apparent probs with using rufus. I used Gparted to create 2 partitions on the comp, a 350MB for grub (used manage flags to set it as boot) and the other partition in ext 4. Ran through the install process and while the USB was inserted, no problem, but rebooting without it resulted in the MISSING OS error.
Now, in Gparted I noticed that the 350MB partition (sda20) name is showing as ROOT-B and the ext4 partition (sda23) is named GRUB. As a demonstration of my lack of knowledge in this, it seems that the drive with grub on it should be named grub by the system and not root-b.
Any idea as to where I screwed this up?
Thanks for any help!
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Eureka!
Well, I used the below suggestions and ran into similar issues. So I focused on the partition set up. I removed all partitions, used Gparted to create a partition directory as I BELIEVE that there was an MBR issue. Created 2 partitions (sda1 and sda2 set up exactly as you had indicated in earlier posts), installed both grubs on sda1 and all else on sda2 and BOOM! After installation, removal of USB and restart, got the prompt to run Phoenix OS at startup and it works! I'm so happy!
While frustrating at times, I learned a whole lot more than I bargained for about partitions, booting processes and more!
And Phoenix is so clean and fast on my crappy Aspire One netbook with just 1 GB of RAM!!!
Mega thanks for your help!
treris said:
Hi SWAMPISH,
It seems like Grub is installed in both partitions, not just in the one dedicated to it. How many partitions do you have in total on that hard drive that you end up with partitions called sda20 and sda23?
My guess would be that somewhere during installation things got mixed up and Grub was installed to the wrong partition meaning it cannot find the boot image. The fact that the partition meant for Grub is now called ROOT and the partition meant for the OS is now GRUB kinda indicates that as well.
I would advise to reinstall PhoenixOS using the installer, you'll wont need gparted for this, and then make sure you reformat both sda20 and sda23 and double check whether Grub goes to sda20 and Phoenix is installed on sda23.
Let me know if this helps.
PS are you installing the current stable version of PhoenixOS (with Android 5.1) or the beta version of PhoenixOS (with Android 7.1)?
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Glad you have it working now! Yes, it's quite amazing how fast old(er) laptops can be when they're using Phoenix OS. They really become useful again.
SWAMPISH said:
Well, I used the below suggestions and ran into similar issues. So I focused on the partition set up. I removed all partitions, used Gparted to create a partition directory as I BELIEVE that there was an MBR issue. Created 2 partitions (sda1 and sda2 set up exactly as you had indicated in earlier posts), installed both grubs on sda1 and all else on sda2 and BOOM! After installation, removal of USB and restart, got the prompt to run Phoenix OS at startup and it works! I'm so happy!
While frustrating at times, I learned a whole lot more than I bargained for about partitions, booting processes and more!
And Phoenix is so clean and fast on my crappy Aspire One netbook with just 1 GB of RAM!!!
Mega thanks for your help!
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I have been reading through these posts about single boot install. I have tried various ways to install phoenix os. I have a lenovo yoga 900 wiht 16gbs of ram. I tried messing with different partion setups, trying where to install grub and grub 2. everytime I install it after reboot, a blank screen comes up with tGrub on it. Everything runs fine when I run it off a usb flash drive. I am not sure what I am doing wrong. Could someone enlighten me on this?

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I made the phoneix os installation and the system turned on. However, when the PC is turned off and then back on, the bios screen is turned on and not loaded. I could not understand the problem. (Single boot)

SyriuS1 said:
I made the phoneix os installation and the system turned on. However, when the PC is turned off and then back on, the bios screen is turned on and not loaded. I could not understand the problem. (Single boot)
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Are you sure you installed Grub correctly? It sounds like Grub may be missing.
Did you set up a separate partition for Grub?

Hello. I'm sorry for possibly taking over an existing thread but this is an install to the hard drive. I should preface and say I'm a noob. I've rooted a few phones and used a few mods on Skyrim (from PC to my PS3). Reading through the thread though I realize how much I am clueless of. So I downloaded from the website, it created a 32gb image and then rebooted. Here my problems are the same as I had with trying (and failing at RemixOS). First if left to it's own devices my laptop will simply not load any OS. It goes to what looks like DOS maybe? However while the _ thingie is blinking it accepts no input. Hard rebooting and going into boot manager, if I touch anything it freezes. Meaning I can't select Phoenix OS from the options. I'm at a loss.
this should be my computer info https://ibb.co/hKsXSv
And this should be the screen i can't get past https://ibb.co/hOM3Za except instead of RemixOS it's Phoenix OS

TgirlValentine said:
Hello. I'm sorry for possibly taking over an existing thread but this is an install to the hard drive. I should preface and say I'm a noob. I've rooted a few phones and used a few mods on Skyrim (from PC to my PS3). Reading through the thread though I realize how much I am clueless of. So I downloaded from the website, it created a 32gb image and then rebooted. Here my problems are the same as I had with trying (and failing at RemixOS). First if left to it's own devices my laptop will simply not load any OS. It goes to what looks like DOS maybe? However while the _ thingie is blinking it accepts no input. Hard rebooting and going into boot manager, if I touch anything it freezes. Meaning I can't select Phoenix OS from the options. I'm at a loss.
this should be my computer info https://ibb.co/hKsXSv
And this should be the screen i can't get past https://ibb.co/hOM3Za except instead of RemixOS it's Phoenix OS
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Try a USB keyboard, if you have one.

bg260 said:
Try a USB keyboard, if you have one.
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Check. For a second I thought I had something but alas the boot menu screen freezes with any keystroke... Well tab or the arrow keys...or f6/f5

TgirlValentine said:
Hello. I'm sorry for possibly taking over an existing thread but this is an install to the hard drive. I should preface and say I'm a noob. I've rooted a few phones and used a few mods on Skyrim (from PC to my PS3). Reading through the thread though I realize how much I am clueless of. So I downloaded from the website, it created a 32gb image and then rebooted. Here my problems are the same as I had with trying (and failing at RemixOS). First if left to it's own devices my laptop will simply not load any OS. It goes to what looks like DOS maybe? However while the _ thingie is blinking it accepts no input. Hard rebooting and going into boot manager, if I touch anything it freezes. Meaning I can't select Phoenix OS from the options. I'm at a loss.
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I found that some machines (especially older ones) won't boot the 64bit version, even though they are 64bit machines, but they will boot the 32bit version.

TNTPro said:
I found that some machines (especially older ones) won't boot the 64bit version, even though they are 64bit machines, but they will boot the 32bit version.
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I'm pretty sure I've got the 32bit though I suppose it won't hurt to remove what I have and ensure I did indeed click on 32. I'm pretty grated with the whole thing. I'm trying to decide if I blame windows or Compaq lol. I noticed when going through the stuff about my machine that it shipped with Vista. Now I currently have windows 7 but could that be an issue?

TNTPro said:
I found that some machines (especially older ones) won't boot the 64bit version, even though they are 64bit machines, but they will boot the 32bit version.
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I redownloaded the 32bit version using the downloader tool, saved to hard drive. When I pull up the boot manager after rebooting it still freezes when I press a key. It will still lost windows 7 if I don't touch anything.