I'm having some trouble understanding how to get my CPUID. I tried to reply to some of the relevant threads but was not allowed due to some kind of missing "Approval". I'm hoping this gets through. My Acer A500 froze about a week ago while running the clock program. It was used mostly as a night stand toy. I've tried lots of stuff here including trying to install the Acer default roms.
SD_PB_G100W_1.007.03_COM_GEN1.zip and Acer_AV041_A500_1.031.00_WW_GEN1-FULL-ROOT.zip and Acer_AV041_A500_1.054.00_WW_GEN1-FULL-ROOT.zip. I copied these to my SD card one at a time then renamed them update.zip. None worked. I tried several others without success.
I cannot get passed the CPUID thing. I tried the A500 manager and I got nowhere. My windows 7 PC does see this tablet in APX mode "Hold power and reset buttons "and so did the A500 manager. Now the strange part, the A500 manager did not reveal any text on the program for any of the buttons. I used a screenshot found on the forum to blindly use it. Of course, it did not give me the info I need "CPUID" to do much of anything else. The A500 boots to the Acer logo and that all it does. I tried hardware and software reset, Power + -volume and power + + volume move the orientation lock button. The first ends up showing Android guy dead with red exclamation and the second shows erasing and clearing message, reboots back to Acer logo screen and that's it.
If I could get the CPUID from this thing, I would try the other tools from the forum. I have nothing to lose at this point. I read the CPUID forum threads over the last few days and I'm beginning to lose hope. Can someone tell a noob step by step how to get my CPUID? I have never hooked this tab up to a PC before and I do not have access to an XP machine. If this is a clue, if I just power the tab up to the Acer logo screen, the driver fails but in APX mode, the machine sees the tab.
Please let me know if you need any other info. I'm a PC guy and know nothing about any form of linux/ubuntu.
You have a couple of options...
If you've got a nandroid backup you'll find it in a txt file.
If you've previously had it plugged into yr pc use usbfeview.
Use Linux to retrieve it.
Also if yr pc does not recognise yr tab you won't get very far at all. Ensure u have them installed correctly, both the Acer ones and the usb ones
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dibb_nz said:
You have a couple of options...
If you've got a nandroid backup you'll find it in a txt file.
I've never backed up this tab. Where would I find this text file?
If you've previously had it plugged into yr pc use usbfeview.
I've never had it hooked up to a PC before it died.
Use Linux to retrieve it.
I have no clue how to use Linux.
Also if yr pc does not recognise yr tab you won't get very far at all. Ensure u have them installed correctly, both the Acer ones and the usb ones
My PC installs the USB driver correctly in APX mode. When I boot to the Acer logo screen, the driver install fails. I installed the drivers found on the forum before I hooked the tab up to my PC.
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At this point I would pay someone who knows Linux to get this working again. I had planned to use it at a relatives wedding to take pics for them and play music at the reception. Looks like I wont be doing that now. Can you tell me step by step how to get the CPUID? I'm willing to try anything other than using it for target practice.
See the sticky in general forum by srbeen
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See the sticky in general forum by srbeen
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That is much too involved for me. A programmer I am not. Thanks for trying. I have a new target this weekend. :silly:
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See the sticky in general forum by srbeen
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Quick question, I have the original retail box, will this help? Will the numbers on the box be my CPUID?
No
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BigJohn15906 said:
That is much too involved for me. A programmer I am not. Thanks for trying. I have a new target this weekend. :silly:
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It is a step by step instruction so no need to be a programmer.
Which part of it is giving you trouble?
eppeP said:
It is a step by step instruction so no need to be a programmer.
Which part of it is giving you trouble?
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I know nothing about Linux. Most guys are telling me I need a Linux machine to fix the tab.
BigJohn15906 said:
I know nothing about Linux. Most guys are telling me I need a Linux machine to fix the tab.
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You don't have to have a linux machine per say. There are 3 ways to install Ubuntu (most popular linux OS) on a normal windows pc.
1) Install Cygwin. This creates a virtual window to run an ubuntu installation
2) VMWare. Again, creates a virtual window to run Ubuntu
3. Install Ubuntu on top of Windows to have a dual boot system (easiest and more efficient method).
The big difference between 1 & 2, and option 3, is that the first 2 options share resources with both Ubuntu and Windows. This can be a little buggy if you don't have a pretty powerful system (i5 and i7 with lots of RAM).
Where as option 3 gives 100% of the system resources as you boot straight to Ubuntu.
The advantage to options 1 & 2, is that it's easy to uninstall when you no longer need Ubuntu.
Just Google "install ubuntu on windows" and several links to do it. It's actually pretty easy.
Another thing to try first is to download these full ICS Update files for the A500 (501 owners can try this also, but you'll have a 500, but that might can be changed later)
These files are already "decrypted" and are named differently as to keep them separate. Download them all to a folder.
Now, select one of them, rename it to "update" (end result is a file called update.zip) copy it to SD card, boot tab and see if it installs. If it hangs on the install, delete it from SD card, and do the same with the next. Hopefully one of them might take. You may have to try all 4 of them before one works. It's hit and miss.
http://d-h.st/Zf8
http://d-h.st/2cm
http://d-h.st/gw8
http://d-h.st/KXl
Hope this gets you going.
MD
And a Big Hello to @dibb_nz glad to see you still helping!
Moscow Desire said:
You don't have to have a linux machine per say. There are 3 ways to install Ubuntu (most popular linux OS) on a normal windows pc.
1) Install Cygwin. This creates a virtual window to run an ubuntu installation
2) VMWare. Again, creates a virtual window to run Ubuntu
3. Install Ubuntu on top of Windows to have a dual boot system (easiest and more efficient method).
The big difference between 1 & 2, and option 3, is that the first 2 options share resources with both Ubuntu and Windows. This can be a little buggy if you don't have a pretty powerful system (i5 and i7 with lots of RAM).
Where as option 3 gives 100% of the system resources as you boot straight to Ubuntu.
The advantage to options 1 & 2, is that it's easy to uninstall when you no longer need Ubuntu.
Just Google "install ubuntu on windows" and several links to do it. It's actually pretty easy.
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I tried a few times to install Ubuntu on my Dell 8400. It's a good PC but I do not understand how to "Compile" or install the drivers needed. Can I do this with "Live CD" or a USB boot of Ubuntu without trying to install drivers? The drivers I need for Ubuntu on my Dell are video and on board sound card drivers. Everything else works from the start. I'm very lost when it comes to any flavor of Linux. I've been asking people on several boards for a few years now if they have a working image for the Dell 8400 they could ship to me but haven't got one yet. I would love to get this tablet up and running again. I saw a few listings for Acer A500 repair on Ebay. I wonder if this might be the best route to take? They are charging $50.00 for software repairs and $130.00 for hardware replacement (Motherboard). The hardware replacement is a little steep as I see some used A500s listed starting at $150.00. I would hate to end up buying someone else headache.
Moscow Desire said:
Another thing to try first is to download these full ICS Update files for the A500 (501 owners can try this also, but you'll have a 500, but that might can be changed later)
These files are already "decrypted" and are named differently as to keep them separate. Download them all to a folder.
Now, select one of them, rename it to "update" (end result is a file called update.zip) copy it to SD card, boot tab and see if it installs. If it hangs on the install, delete it from SD card, and do the same with the next. Hopefully one of them might take. You may have to try all 4 of them before one works. It's hit and miss.
http://d-h.st/Zf8
http://d-h.st/2cm
http://d-h.st/gw8
http://d-h.st/KXl
Hope this gets you going.
MD
And a Big Hello to @dibb_nz glad to see you still helping!
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I tried all of these just the way you said without success. The tab does not see the update zip. It ends up either with dead Android guy with red ! or stuck on the Acer logo screen. :crying:
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I tried a few times to install Ubuntu on my Dell 8400. It's a good PC but I do not understand how to "Compile" or install the drivers needed. Can I do this with "Live CD" or a USB boot of Ubuntu without trying to install drivers? The drivers I need for Ubuntu on my Dell are video and on board sound card drivers. Everything else works from the start. I'm very lost when it comes to any flavor of Linux. I've been asking people on several boards for a few years now if they have a working image for the Dell 8400 they could ship to me but haven't got one yet. I would love to get this tablet up and running again. I saw a few listings for Acer A500 repair on Ebay. I wonder if this might be the best route to take? They are charging $50.00 for software repairs and $130.00 for hardware replacement (Motherboard). The hardware replacement is a little steep as I see some used A500s listed starting at $150.00. I would hate to end up buying someone else headache.
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If you install, its with a recent "Live CD" (or USB Stick, which I have never used) I prefer the CD version.
I don't have a dell, or know much about them. But if Ubuntu starts up, regardless of sound or perhaps video drivers, there should be no issues in making things work.
As for getting replacement parts, I would think you can almost a better deal with a new device rather than paying for replacement parts.
A working A500/501 goes for about 100-150$ these days,
If the updates I linked you to, didn't work, then it's probably a bad memory block. But you'll have to use Ubuntu, for a couple of reasons, an really no way to avoid it.
1) babsector (although it can be run through windows)
2) UID
Can't help you with your dell Mate, don't own one.
MD
Moscow Desire said:
If you install, its with a recent "Live CD" (or USB Stick, which I have never used) I prefer the CD version.
I don't have a dell, or know much about them. But if Ubuntu starts up, regardless of sound or perhaps video drivers, there should be no issues in making things work.
As for getting replacement parts, I would think you can almost a better deal with a new device rather than paying for replacement parts.
A working A500/501 goes for about 100-150$ these days,
If the updates I linked you to, didn't work, then it's probably a bad memory block. But you'll have to use Ubuntu, for a couple of reasons, an really no way to avoid it.
1) babsector (although it can be run through windows)
2) UID
Can't help you with your dell Mate, don't own one.
MD
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I have an old live CD, Ubuntu 10.X I can try. The Dell 8400 is a business class PC I used in my DJ business. I have 5 of them. I'll just install on one of the idle ones and be done with it. Then I'll stop back to get the files. Thanks for trying Moscow Desire.
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I've been busy as crap lately but still wanted to communicate my thoughts...as advised by one of my team members...
Once we have a new larger hard drive put into the Shift and have worked out all of the driver issues for XP and Linux, we can modify the recovery partition on the hard drive to recover three different OS's with all the drivers and components fully functional. I'm sure there are more than these two options but I'm just going to throw two of them out there:
Option 1:
Setup recovery partition to recover ONE of THREE OS's. Vista, XP or some distro of Linux. When the user goes into recovery, they can be presented with a menu saying something like #1: Recover Vista, #2: Recover XP, #3: Recover Linux.
Option 2:
For those that install multiple OS's and "dualboot"...we can go as far as getting it all setup with drivers then create an image so you can recover a multiboot setup or even make it the 4th option.
Maybe we can create two images one with each option above for different users. I myself would probably go with Option 2 even though I use VMWare. I wouldn't mind setting up Vista/XP/Linux to multiboot into the Shift so I can choose which OS. Then making a recovery partition based on this setup so if I screw things up it'll recover the entire thing.
Maybe we could even go as far as adding another capability to Option2 and do something so individual OS's within a multiboot environment are recovered without affecting the other OS's. You never know the possibilities with this.
Your thoughts are always welcome.
/me wants a Shift and/or Athena !
ltxda said:
I've been busy as crap lately but still wanted to communicate my thoughts...as advised by one of my team members...
Once we have a new larger hard drive put into the Shift and have worked out all of the driver issues for XP and Linux, we can modify the recovery partition on the hard drive to recover three different OS's with all the drivers and components fully functional. I'm sure there are more than these two options but I'm just going to throw two of them out there:
Option 1:
Setup recovery partition to recover ONE of THREE OS's. Vista, XP or some distro of Linux. When the user goes into recovery, they can be presented with a menu saying something like #1: Recover Vista, #2: Recover XP, #3: Recover Linux.
Option 2:
For those that install multiple OS's and "dualboot"...we can go as far as getting it all setup with drivers then create an image so you can recover a multiboot setup or even make it the 4th option.
Maybe we can create two images one with each option above for different users. I myself would probably go with Option 2 even though I use VMWare. I wouldn't mind setting up Vista/XP/Linux to multiboot into the Shift so I can choose which OS. Then making a recovery partition based on this setup so if I screw things up it'll recover the entire thing.
Maybe we could even go as far as adding another capability to Option2 and do something so individual OS's within a multiboot environment are recovered without affecting the other OS's. You never know the possibilities with this.
Your thoughts are always welcome.
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Your thoughts sounds nice for me. I ve installed xp, ubuntu and had to overwrite recovery partition in order to install vista properly again. I dream with the idea of having full control (be able to turn on/off wifi/bt) from ubuntu and xp.
Greetings.
Dani
lennysh said:
/me wants a Shift and/or Athena !
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hehehe hey there
cmonex said:
hehehe hey there
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lol!
ltns!
ltxda said:
I've been busy as crap lately but still wanted to communicate my thoughts...as advised by one of my team members...
Once we have a new larger hard drive put into the Shift and have worked out all of the driver issues for XP and Linux, we can modify the recovery partition on the hard drive to recover three different OS's with all the drivers and components fully functional. I'm sure there are more than these two options but I'm just going to throw two of them out there:
Option 1:
Setup recovery partition to recover ONE of THREE OS's. Vista, XP or some distro of Linux. When the user goes into recovery, they can be presented with a menu saying something like #1: Recover Vista, #2: Recover XP, #3: Recover Linux.
Option 2:
For those that install multiple OS's and "dualboot"...we can go as far as getting it all setup with drivers then create an image so you can recover a multiboot setup or even make it the 4th option.
Maybe we can create two images one with each option above for different users. I myself would probably go with Option 2 even though I use VMWare. I wouldn't mind setting up Vista/XP/Linux to multiboot into the Shift so I can choose which OS. Then making a recovery partition based on this setup so if I screw things up it'll recover the entire thing.
Maybe we could even go as far as adding another capability to Option2 and do something so individual OS's within a multiboot environment are recovered without affecting the other OS's. You never know the possibilities with this.
Your thoughts are always welcome.
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This all should be definatly possible the fun will just be getting the recovery stuff working right but I love the idea cause then we just get ppl to download a full disk that will image their drive and its all set to go
ltxda, I would like to order one Athena and one Shift for testing purposes please. Add a little Ubuntu Mobile on the side as well. O, and a large drink.
Ltxda you already know this but for everyone else as well please feel free to ignore Lennysh when he is being crazy
Hi all,
I don't know if my problem as already been solved but I didn't found anything.
At first, I have to say I installed windows 8 as principal operating system (I know, it's stupid...).
I used windows 8 without big problem since the deployment but today, after a bug, I reboot the PC and now I have just black screen with the message "operating system missing"... The system does not boot, just black screen with the message
Does anybody have an idea how I can solve this problem ?
(Sorry for my english)
you can put dev preview DVD or USB whatever you used to install.
and run the installation and then repair Windows 8 (if it detects a Windows installed). with system restore or maybe it will repair. if not you will have to refresh your win8.
also it can be (if you have more hard drives) that you aren't starting the one with Windows 8. so you can try and see in bios if thats the case. thats when i have seen this message.
Thanks for your answer.
When I run the pc, it doesn't launch anything, just the black screen. It's probably the bios but I can't do anything, just the message but I'm not allowed to do anything :-(
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Finally, the problem is quite solved.
When I have this message, by pushing ctrl+alt+suprr, if I'm enough fast, I can push F12 and choose wich part I want to run. Then I placed my W7 backup on CD and runned it.
It was not easy but W7 is successfull restored.
Of course, all my personal data were deleted...
But whe I reboot the PC, I've always the message "missing operating system", then I have to ctrl+alt+suprr and after F12, and then choose the hard drive, and the PC W7 boot.
It's not yet perfect but for the moment the PC works...
Thats exactly i told you. of course it changes between bios and motherboard. your problem is not your windows. its the priority of your harddrive.
I dont know what motherboard you have.
so i will find pictures to explain what you have to look for. because you didnt have to repair your Windows if thats the case. the problem its (like i mentioned) your harddrive priority.
so you go to your bios and look for the Boot section.
http://www.motherboards-reviews.com...ges/ASUS_M2N68-AM_PLUS_BIOS_boot_settings.jpg
if you go to Boot Device Priority, you can check if your harddrive is second (the one with your OS) and if you want your cd or usb to boot first if not you can leave it first.
http://motherboards-reviews.com/ASU...s/ASUS_M4N78-AM_BIOS_Boot_Device_Priority.jpg
something like this.
and if that part is right you have to go to Hard disk drives
http://www.laptops-battery.co.uk/images/maintain/bios-boot-hard-disk-drives-445x261.jpg
so there you have to check if your harddrive is first or the correct one. and ready... its probably this Hard disk devices thing. and then you don't have to use that method of changing manually which boots
Thanks for your help
I'm not at home for the moment. I'll try your method tomorrow or wednesday, I'll let you know, but thank you for the time you spent on my problem.
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I have a quick question to everyone who has the TF300T and Linux. Have you been able to plug in the tablet directly in Linux (Ubuntu)and open the filesystem to transfer files? it seems that in windows I need to have that Asus Sync program, but i would rather not use a program. I would imagine it would be a plug and play situation.
I would appreciate to read how to go around that.
Thank you in advance.
Sam
samoukos said:
I have a quick question to everyone who has the TF300T and Linux. Have you been able to plug in the tablet directly in Linux (Ubuntu)and open the filesystem to transfer files? it seems that in windows I need to have that Asus Sync program, but i would rather not use a program. I would imagine it would be a plug and play situation.
I would appreciate to read how to go around that.
Thank you in advance.
Sam
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I have windows and it is plug and play for me. I never downloaded the ASUS Sync program. I just plugged it in and it recognized the internal sdcard with no problems at all.
I'm on windows and i've never needed to use the asus sync program. I just connect my tablet to the computer and it pops up as a usb mass storage device.
Interesting. I am at work now and we are using Vista. I have it plugged in and on the device it says "Connected as a media device" and then nothing comes up. Also i have that Asus Sync icon in the notification area
I use Windows 7 Enterprise at home and it works for me
I don't have a issue with this at home.
Once I plug it in, a USB menu opens and verifies that it found a new device.
The issue you may be having is with in Vista itself.
I'm using Windows 7 Enterprise, and I can view all the files on my Asus, I don't even have Root yet. That whole .26 thing!
I just fired up a Ubuntu system at work to try to get around the issues with ADB on a Windows 7 64 bit system, so I can try to downgrade it to .17, root, load root keeper, then try the OTA update to .26. Have not quite got there yet though.
So far this has all been a complete pain on Windows, the ADB software comes to a screeching halt do to a Java issue, that no one can see to correct on my O.S.
Would be nice if some one just put out a 1 click Root app like I had on my DrodX!
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I don't have a issue with this at home.
Once I plug it in, a USB menu opens and verifies that it found a new device.
The issue you may be having is with in Vista itself.
I'm using Windows 7 Enterprise, and I can view all the files on my Asus, I don't even have Root yet. That whole .26 thing!
I just fired up a Ubuntu system at work to try to get around the issues with ADB on a Windows 7 64 bit system, so I can try to downgrade it to .17, root, load root keeper, then try the OTA update to .26. Have not quite got there yet though.
So far this has all been a complete pain on Windows, the ADB software comes to a screeching halt do to a Java issue, that no one can see to correct on my O.S.
Would be nice if some one just put out a 1 click Root app like I had on my DrodX!
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There is a one click downgrade and one click root check the guide in development section
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samoukos said:
Interesting. I am at work now and we are using Vista. I have it plugged in and on the device it says "Connected as a media device" and then nothing comes up. Also i have that Asus Sync icon in the notification area
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i think i could depend on the drivers.
but dont expect an USB drive to appear as an HD or removable device, as it is MTP, you have to access the files via the DEVICE ICON that appears on the computer folder.
i dont know if its the same on vista. but as win 7 is Vista + it shouldn't be too different.
uysen 2
Ubuntu user here.
Yes I was/am able to get it connected and able to get files on it but not without some extra work.
I mostly followed the following site and changed some of the names he gave his phone into TF300.
(being a new user I am not able to post url links and am not able to post in de development site yet...damn)
Do a google search on: omg ubuntu android usb drive
and the first hit is the site.
After having done that, all it takes to have it seen as a drive is enter <android-connect> into a terminal. (and <android-disconnect> to shut off cleanly).
It's only seeing the sdcard, not / (hoped for an easy root access ).
I have a nextbook tablet running windows 8.1 that I got from black Friday. I hate windows 8 and bluestacks won't run on the tablet, so therefore I can't even run my android apps.
Is there a way to install android on this tablet and get rid of windows? I've searched online and came up dry.
Any help would be appreciated.
I also bought one form wally world and would love to run android on it
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I also bought one form wally world and would love to run android on it
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This is where I got mine too.
Please anyone who can shed some light on this I would really appreciate it. This is a great tablet but windows 8 sucks.
For Bay Trail:
https://01.org/android-ia/ - Intel's build of Android for x86 devices. They have builds available for Bay Trail devices, which according to the specs I found for that device, should work.
It does support running as a live image, which will get it off the ground and running for testing to see if all of the hardware is supported, and an installer to drop the Android setup on disk as necessary.
Installing Google Play and such might be a bit more involved of a task, but it's doable.
Interesting... but how would I get the tablet to boot into the image? since I can't plug a flash drive into it or access a boot menu of sorts how do I do this?
I had a similar question. I got an HP Stream 7 for $80 on Black Friday, and it comes with Windows 8.1. The reviews on amazon were glowing, considering the low price and still running a 32-bit version of Windows 8.
However, I'm not a big fan of Windows 8. Perhaps some day it'll grow on me, but at this moment, I don't find it intuitive.
Since the HP Stream has Intel Atom, I found this page (which apparently I'm not allowed to share). Just do a google search for Atom and kit kat. That gave me an Intel page with some instructions, but it looks like virtualization, as opposed to replacing or dual booting the OS.
zonykel said:
I had a similar question. I got an HP Stream 7 for $80 on Black Friday, and it comes with Windows 8.1. The reviews on amazon were glowing, considering the low price and still running a 32-bit version of Windows 8.
However, I'm not a big fan of Windows 8. Perhaps some day it'll grow on me, but at this moment, I don't find it intuitive.
Since the HP Stream has Intel Atom, I found this page (which apparently I'm not allowed to share). Just do a google search for Atom and kit kat. That gave me an Intel page with some instructions, but it looks like virtualization, as opposed to replacing or dual booting the OS.
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This won't work because the tablet doesn't not have enough ram to run an emulator. If that was the case I would just use bluestacks :/
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Interesting... but how would I get the tablet to boot into the image? since I cant plug a flash drive into it or access a boot menu of sorts how do I do this?
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Sounds like it's got a micro-USB port on it - given that the tablet is meant for running Windows, probably an OTG port.
Find a USB OTG cable and you should be able to plug a proper keyboard into it (to get into the firmware) or plug a USB thumb drive into it.
I think the same is true for the Stream 7 (a quick search tells me it's got the same sort of micro-B port on it).
As far as accessing the firmware for either (to do things like disable Secure Boot or change the boot device), I'm not sure - but the documentation for each device should have instructions on how to access the firmware.
For installation - the images I linked above are for direct installation, not running inside of a VM. (I don't think any of the images that Intel provides will run under virtualization because they expect certain hardware to be present that isn't typically provided by any of the VMs out there - graphics being the big one.)
android,ubuntu,windows?
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Sounds like it's got a micro-USB port on it - given that the tablet is meant for running Windows, probably an OTG port.
Find a USB OTG cable and you should be able to plug a proper keyboard into it (to get into the firmware) or plug a USB thumb drive into it.
I think the same is true for the Stream 7 (a quick search tells me it's got the same sort of micro-B port on it).
As far as accessing the firmware for either (to do things like disable Secure Boot or change the boot device), I'm not sure - but the documentation for each device should have instructions on how to access the firmware.
For installation - the images I linked above are for direct installation, not running inside of a VM. (I don't think any of the images that Intel provides will run under virtualization because they expect certain hardware to be present that isn't typically provided by any of the VMs out there - graphics being the big one.)
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i managed to get to the bios of it by trying android installer (wubi) but android wouldn't boot but it let me get into boot options it says it doesn't have usb connected when in fact i did via usb otg but still trying if it's possible to boot ubuntu i will report first thing lets hope the dev's figure this one out please note it has uefi bios ubuntu desktop maybe a possibility but that's just a wild guess
joeylikesubuntu said:
i managed to get to the bios of it by trying android installer (wubi) but android wouldn't boot but it let me get into boot options it says it doesn't have usb connected when in fact i did via usb otg but still trying if it's possible to boot ubuntu i will report first thing lets hope the dev's figure this one out please note it has uefi bios ubuntu desktop maybe a possibility but that's just a wild guess
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emergency i need a recovery image could someone that owns this create one and upload it to here i forgot to make a backup of os i'm not gonna lose any faith in xda not now anyways probally not ever i got this for a early christmas present and already screwed it up my own fault but i'm hoping we can all communicate and come up with a solution to solve these problems and figure out a way to get android or ubuntu on this device which can only be accomplished through unity
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ItsJon said:
I have a nextbook tablet running windows 8.1 that I got from black Friday. I hate windows 8 and bluestacks won't run on the tablet, so therefore I can't even run my android apps.
Is there a way to install android on this tablet and get rid of windows? I've searched online and came up dry.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Ditch Windows +1, I bought it with the intention of running XBMCLive on it (I have already tried the windows version of XBMC, Updated the HUGE library I have and it still runs at only 35% CPU usage and 76% RAM usage, so one can only assume that with the "Resource Pig" removed from the device XBMC should be in Idle 99% of the time) I found an article that said that if you press the Vol+ button and the Power Button at the same time it boots into what can only be described as a"Boot Menu" of sorts, which includes booting from Flash disk, DVD rom, etc. Now I just have to find my Micro USB cable to USB to test it out and see if I can destroy it, or alternatively the better option, install the live version of XBMC on to it. IMO this is the smallest form factor Quad core I have seen with HDMI out....... A bit of "Velcro" on the back, stick it to the back of the flat panel tv and hey presto.... XBMC I can't see, but works better than Winblows. If anyone has any info on this, it would be Greatly appreciated.... Before I go and brick the device or something, LoL.
MeM-TecH said:
Ditch Windows +1, I bought it with the intention of running XBMCLive on it (I have already tried the windows version of XBMC, Updated the HUGE library I have and it still runs at only 35% CPU usage and 76% RAM usage, so one can only assume that with the "Resource Pig" removed from the device XBMC should be in Idle 99% of the time) I found an article that said that if you press the Vol+ button and the Power Button at the same time it boots into what can only be described as a"Boot Menu" of sorts, which includes booting from Flash disk, DVD rom, etc. Now I just have to find my Micro USB cable to USB to test it out and see if I can destroy it, or alternatively the better option, install the live version of XBMC on to it. IMO this is the smallest form factor Quad core I have seen with HDMI out....... A bit of "Velcro" on the back, stick it to the back of the flat panel tv and hey presto.... XBMC I can't see, but works better than Winblows. If anyone has any info on this, it would be Greatly appreciated.... Before I go and brick the device or something, LoL.
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could you please make recovery file from inside windows and copy it an attach it to this thread
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joeylikesubuntu said:
could you please make recovery file from inside windows and copy it an attach it to this thread
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it has 3 options to boot from efiusb efidvd efi network i've pushed all of these and get the message system doesn't have usb boot option please select other boot option in boot manager menu my only option is to boot from a recovery partition on an sdcard it's a matter of making the partition in update & recovery and copying the root folder of the sdcard to a zip or img file shouldn't be that hardim stuck in a boot loop by the way
joeylikesubuntu said:
could you please make recovery file from inside windows and copy it an attach it to this thread
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it has 3 options to boot from efiusb efidvd efi network i've pushed all of these and get the message system doesn't have usb boot option please select other boot option in boot manager menu my only option is to boot from a recovery partition on an sdcard it's a matter of making the partition in update & recovery and copying the root folder of the sdcard to a zip or img file shouldn't be that hardim stuck in a boot loop by the way
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Are you referring to a windows recovery? I have this same tablet, I can make one for you tomorrow and post it if you'd like.
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Silentwidow said:
Are you referring to a windows recovery? I have this same tablet, I can make one for you tomorrow and post it if you'd like.
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Any way you could do a "How To" on that? It would be great if I also had a backup of the unit before I decided to wipe it and maybe render it useless if something went wrong! Also then I could supply an alternative image for "joeylikesubuntu" or anyone else that is thinking of messing with it and isn't sure if it will work or not. Thanks.
ItsJon said:
This won't work because the tablet doesn't not have enough ram to run an emulator. If that was the case I would just use bluestacks :/
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Try installing this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/how-to-install-bluestacks-1gb-ram-t2885950
joeylikesubuntu said:
emergency i need a recovery image could someone that owns this create one and upload it to here i forgot to make a backup of os i'm not gonna lose any faith in xda not now anyways probally not ever i got this for a early christmas present and already screwed it up my own fault but i'm hoping we can all communicate and come up with a solution to solve these problems and figure out a way to get android or ubuntu on this device which can only be accomplished through unity
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I also uploaded the recovery files:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/mc9cbhntkpxqcgp/nextbook+recovery.rar
Having problems
I'm not able to get the device into any type of mode where it will read an external storage device. I've tried all sorts of combinations of power and volume and home keys with no results.
It just keeps saying "attempting automatic repair" and "diagnosing your PC"
any suggestions? None of the images posted in this thread seem to help me
Here my lead.
I recently saw this video in youtube (can't post the link since this is my first post) but video ID is /PG1_2MDYMtk
The specs of the device used in the video are by far surpassing the ones of the NCW8QC16G but I wasn't able to locate any minimum requirements so I think and hope it's doable.
I would only need a Micro USB OTG adapter to be able to plug in a wireless mouse and keyboard (which is currently in the mail).
I could load the installation image into a micro SD and then go to PC Settings\Update and Recovery\Recovery\Advanced Startup(restart now)\Troubleshoot\Advanced Options\ and try to make it boot into bios from there. or try pressing the usual combination of keys in my keyboard upon boot to access bios on a regular computer might work although I fear the chances are slim. Once we get into the boot menu and confirm that we can boot from SD I think the rest would be easy as shown in the video.
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brik.m3 said:
I recently saw this video in youtube (can't post the link since this is my first post) but video ID is /PG1_2MDYMtk
The specs of the device used in the video are by far surpassing the ones of the NCW8QC16G but I wasn't able to locate any minimum requirements so I think and hope it's doable.
I would only need a Micro USB OTG adapter to be able to plug in a wireless mouse and keyboard (which is currently in the mail).
I could load the installation image into a micro SD and then go to PC Settings\Update and Recovery\Recovery\Advanced Startup(restart now)\Troubleshoot\Advanced Options\ and try to make it boot into bios from there. or try pressing the usual combination of keys in my keyboard upon boot to access bios on a regular computer might work although I fear the chances are slim. Once we get into the boot menu and confirm that we can boot from SD I think the rest would be easy as shown in the video.
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that would be great if we can get some form of linux on it if we can figure out how to do so then this tablet would be great perhaps maybe using an old ubuntu recovery might work but that's just a guess and the recovery might have to be in the same format as the windows recovery or file type but that's good that others are working on this
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why cant we just use part of sdcard as ram to run vbox
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Sloogle_Flugelmann said:
I also uploaded the recovery files:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/mc9cbhntkpxqcgp/nextbook+recovery.rar
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thank you
@Sloogle_Flugelmann
Thx for the recovery image link.
I've tried all the options and I'm unable to get the recovery image to load after extracting them to a usb.
I actually managed to get Win10 build 9926 loaded on my nextbook via the OTG and usb drive. Got the internal wifi working after using a wifi dongle via OTG first then doing and update. Win10 doesn't seem to update drivers like Win8 does.
Also, anyone know what are the drivers for the different hardware on the NXW8QC16?
Sucks that touchscreen, etc don't work in Win10 preview, but it's probably to be expected.
I'm going to try my Win8.1 Pro image and to see if it picks up the drivers then.
Btw, I'm also trying the 64 bit version of Win8.1 since the processor in my tablet says it's 64bit capable and had a 32bit operating system loaded. Yes, I know that I don't need a 64bit OS since the tablet's only got 1GB ram, but while I'm playing around (struggling withit) so why not
Nextbook Flexx 11
A 200-250$ 2-in-1 laptop.
CPU: 1.83 GHz Intel Atom Z3735F Quad-Core
RAM: 2 GBs
SSD: 64GBs
Screen: 11.6" Touchscreen
Ports: 1 x MicroHDMI, 1 x MicroUSB 2.0, 2 x USB 2.0
Micro SD Card slot
Installing every linux based OS(Android, RemixOS, Linux Distros)
Prerequisites:
A bootia32.efi file (Found in attachments)
A copy of your favorite linux distro
Rufus, UNetbootin, or a USB disk image write of your choice.
A flash you can wipe, and boot from
A little bit of time
Step 1: Setting up
First thing you'll need to do is use your image writer to write the iso to your USB.
MAKE SURE YOU SELECTED THE RIGHT USB DRIVE!
I cannot stress this enough, if you don't want to lose everything on another flash drive, or your hard drive, check and make sure you are using the right drive letter.
Do not restart now. We need to add some files to it.
Extract bootia32.efi and copy it to /boot/efi on your flash drive.
So this was some instructions I made for booting it, but this is much more complicated than it should be. You can totally disregard this spoiler.
Step 2: Booting
Plug your USB into your nextbook (if you haven't already) and turn it on/reboot it.
As its powering on, hold ESC to get into the boot options.
Click "Boot Manager" and select your USB drive.
IF IT DOESN'T SHOW UP, FORMAT YOUR USB DRIVE TO FAT32 AND GO BACK TO STEP 1.
Now, 2 things may happen, it may boot up perfectly, and from there, just follow the steps to install.
If it doesn't boot properly, we'll need to type a few commands.
Step 2.1: Grub Command Line.
So if it doesn't boot up properly, which chances are it wont, you'll be dropped into a command line.
This is grub, if you didn't know, and to boot we need to locate the drive its on.
First press FN+Ins to turn off NumLk, then type,
Code:
linux (hd
now if you press tab, it should list everything you have attached, for example:
Code:
hd0, hd1, hd2, hd3
The usb will most likely be hd0. So now you should have
Code:
linux (hd0,
If you press tab again, it will list off all of your partitions, or autofill one in.
Now you should have either:
Code:
1. linux (hd0,msdos1)
2. linux (hd0,gpt1)
Now, if you have this, type this(replace hd0,gpt1 with what you got):
Code:
set root=(hd0,gpt1)
then type
(new)Step 2: Creating a boot file.
So, now that you have the files copied over, you need to name the drive.
Right click your drive, and click Rename... (Remember the drive name, its important)
After you renamed your drive, create a folder at DriveLetter:/boot/grub
In that directory, create a file named grub.cfg
Now depending on your linux version, you'll have either syslinux, or grub already.
If grub: The file should already be there, so you can move on to step 3.
If syslinux: Find the isolinux.cfg or syslinux.cfg (probably in /syslinux or in /isolinux)
It will look something like:
Code:
label LinuxVersion
kernel /kernelFile
append initrd=/initrdFile (more options)
We're going to use these options to create our grub.cfg file.
Use this as a template.
Code:
menuentry 'LinuxVersion' {
search --set=root --label THIS_IS_WHERE_THE_LABEL_YOU_SET_EARLIER_GOES
linux /kernelFile (more options)
initrd /initrdFile
}
Step 3: Boot into your new OS.
Reboot your PC. When it turns back on, hold ESC.
You should be brought back to the BIOS area.
Press "Boot Manager" (you will need a mouse for this), and select your USB drive.
If you did everything correctly, it should boot.
Step 4: Go wild!
You should be booted, GO CRAZY!
There are a few problems with most distros, including:
No Wifi
No Bluetooth
No Gyroscope
No Audio
There are drivers online for these, but you need to be able to patch a kernel, and build/install a driver.
Wifi
Is the guide not working?
Go ahead and ask some questions, don't be afraid of help.
Useful resources:
Ubuntu with Wifi (Source)
Thats all the links for now. I will add more as I find them (hopefully to fix audio, power button, and rotation)
Huge thanks to Ian Morrison for the Ubuntu iso.
TAG
Any chance you're going to do the linux?
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I'm guessing that is where the linux how to, is going.
Dude.. You gonna finish this?
set code=(hd0,msdos1)
Then type
Type what? Need a complete tutorial here...
I'm so sorry
Chaosmstr said:
Dude.. You gonna finish this?
set code=(hd0,msdos1)
Then type
Type what? Need a complete tutorial here...
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I apologize for the delay, busy with school and all.
You can't leave us hanging like this!
I'm not sure about OP here, but I have the smaller model of this device being the Flexx 10. Now I haven't tried to boot Android on it, but I have successfully booted Linux Mint with it.
First I would recommend using a USB OTG capable flash drive (they are available at office stores, walmart, and so on and so forth,) or an OTG adaptor instead of using a full sized usb. The reason for this is stability of the booted system as the connection of the keyboard dock does not appear to be extremely reliable. This may vary by model or device but I would still recommend it as you may need the full sized USB ports later.
Now instead of using Unetbootin, I used Rufus. I used the settings of GTP for efi and bios to write the image to the drive. I didn't mess with any other settings there. After that I had to get a file called bootia32.efi and then add it to the /efi/BOOT/ before the system would even try to recognize it. From there it was just waiting patiently while it booted. (use the instructions in the earlier post to get to the boot options of the UEFI) It took it a while to boot as I suspect the USB speed was rather slow.
As I didn't really have time to really mess with it and get to the point of install, I will list the issues I came across.
1: Automatic rotation of the screen did not work.
2: wifi (RTL8723BS SDIO)
3: bluetooth
4: sound
everything else seemed to work just fine though, even the volume rocker, windows button and power button on the tablet section reacted and did things. not entirely useful, but they did work.
Edit: forgot to mention that if you go through with the install, you will have to finish the install by doing some grub modifications to make it boot without a live disk. just a heads up.
Hmfan said:
I'm not sure about OP here, but I have the smaller model of this device being the Flexx 10. Now I haven't tried to boot Android on it, but I have successfully booted Linux Mint with it.
First I would recommend using a USB OTG capable flash drive (they are available at office stores, walmart, and so on and so forth,) or an OTG adaptor instead of using a full sized usb. The reason for this is stability of the booted system as the connection of the keyboard dock does not appear to be extremely reliable. This may vary by model or device but I would still recommend it as you may need the full sized USB ports later.
Now instead of using Unetbootin, I used Rufus. I used the settings of GTP for efi and bios to write the image to the drive. I didn't mess with any other settings there. After that I had to get a file called bootia32.efi and then add it to the /efi/BOOT/ before the system would even try to recognize it. From there it was just waiting patiently while it booted. (use the instructions in the earlier post to get to the boot options of the UEFI) It took it a while to boot as I suspect the USB speed was rather slow.
As I didn't really have time to really mess with it and get to the point of install, I will list the issues I came across.
1: Automatic rotation of the screen did not work.
2: wifi (RTL8723BS SDIO)
3: bluetooth
4: sound
everything else seemed to work just fine though, even the volume rocker, windows button and power button on the tablet section reacted and did things. not entirely useful, but they did work.
Edit: forgot to mention that if you go through with the install, you will have to finish the install by doing some grub modifications to make it boot without a live disk. just a heads up.
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Sorry I'm coming back so late, I've been busy with life.
The Wifi issue can be fixed by building the driver (https://github.com/hadess/rtl8723bs)
The bluetooth wont work on most OS' because it relies on some windows drivers to work.
I might be able to find a driver for screen rotation/audio.
Another issue is the power doesn't get registered, and the touch screen is VERY flaky.
Kitsumi said:
Sorry I'm coming back so late, I've been busy with life.
The Wifi issue can be fixed by building the driver (URL removed per post restrictions.)
The bluetooth wont work on most OS' because it relies on some windows drivers to work.
I might be able to find a driver for screen rotation/audio.
Another issue is the power doesn't get registered, and the touch screen is VERY flaky.
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I didn't really notice that power one as I did not use it long, but I think that is just an atom thing. My old n270 based aspire one does that too.
Really though, the way I would use it, I wouldn't miss screen rotation or the bluetooth, but the touch screen is the nuisance. What I noticed with it is that when the screen is forced into proper orientation (by use of screen rotation in the settings, you know without using the command line) is that the touch screen doesn't follow the new orientation correctly. It appears to have the portrait resolution set to the top left of the screen in landscape. That said, it works fine in portait. Or at least managably.
Hmfan said:
I didn't really notice that power one as I did not use it long, but I think that is just an atom thing. My old n270 based aspire one does that too.
Really though, the way I would use it, I wouldn't miss screen rotation or the bluetooth, but the touch screen is the nuisance. What I noticed with it is that when the screen is forced into proper orientation (by use of screen rotation in the settings, you know without using the command line) is that the touch screen doesn't follow the new orientation correctly. It appears to have the portrait resolution set to the top left of the screen in landscape. That said, it works fine in portait. Or at least managably.
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Well, I decied to try and boot remixOS, and it works VERY well, so does android-x86 5.0
That being said, audio is a glaring issue.
When you tried Remix OS and say it worked very well. What do you mean? What actually worked? Obviously audio is what doesn't since you mentioned it. But am I to assume that screen rotation works as expected then?
I'm not willing to use REMIX OS personally as the whole android bit is a limiting factor to me. Unless it rooted of ccourse. but even then some of my prefered uses for Linux is lost.
Also hows the hardware acceleration?
How do I install the x64 version of Windows? I downloaded the ISO with the Media Creation Tool and it won't boot from the USB drive. I enabled USB booting and made sure secure boot was off, but it's not working. It keeps saying there's no USB device available.
Unfortunately due to the way that Windows works, the 64 bit version is not usable due to the bootloader difference. Even though the hardware of the device is capable of 64 bit code execution, the 32 bit UEFI Bootloader will only allow a 32 bit version of Windows or a 64 bit version of Linux with some EFI fiddling. And as far as I know there is not a way to fiddle with the EFI related workings of a Windows ISO so 64 bit Windows is not possible on these Nexbook devices or others with similar hardware (Asus t100 is a good example of similar device)
Hmfan said:
Unfortunately due to the way that Windows works, the 64 bit version is not usable due to the bootloader difference. Even though the hardware of the device is capable of 64 bit code execution, the 32 bit UEFI Bootloader will only allow a 32 bit version of Windows or a 64 bit version of Linux with some EFI fiddling. And as far as I know there is not a way to fiddle with the EFI related workings of a Windows ISO so 64 bit Windows is not possible on these Nexbook devices or others with similar hardware (Asus t100 is a good example of similar device)
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That's really dumb. Most Windows devices are 64-bit nowadays. Why would they put in a 64-bit processor but not allow x64 operating systems?
You're guess is as good as mine on that one. Ask Microsoft on that one. They used the 32 bit version because Microsoft will only give the "Windows XX (originally 8.1) with bing 32bit for free. Which keeps the device cost down. Kinda hard to to sell a cheapskate device when it ends up costing as much as a better speced laptop.
Where can I find recovery images for this? I messed up and now I don't have audio or touchscreen drivers.
You can try this web site from Efun themselves
http://nextbookusa.com/recovery/index.html That is their official recovery download site.
(apparently I can post links...)
Hmfan said:
You can try this web site from Efun themselves
http://nextbookusa.com/recovery/index.html That is their official recovery download site.
(apparently I can post links...)
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I tried that. It says there's no recovery option for this model....
Do you have this tablet? Do you think you could do a driver backup and upload it here? Or create a recovery image and share it?