Database Users

I think someone is stealing your programs!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...Track=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:middle:us
I came across this looking for an 8525, it seems that he may be using the FREE programs available on here. I would say whoever created them go after this guy because it's obviously not fair he is using what you created to profit without you getting anything for it. I'm not 100% sure if he is use the programs from here, but I mean how many Sim/CID unlock program are really out there for the 8525?

I just reported the item to ebay, this is JJ's stuff and other members hard work.

Lurch3559 said:
I just reported the item to ebay, this is JJ's stuff and other members hard work.
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maybe a copy of SPL-****er will be worming its way to him... nothing to do with me of course ^_^

You're welcome guys .

Yeah thats a bunch of bull****. i was looking on ebay the other day for a broken wizard and i saw someone selling a program that would load farias wm6 rom onto their phone. I reported that **** right away. There are so many people on here that are so talented and make so much awesome programs and not charge us a dime for it, but then you got dicks like that guy who decides to profit off of other peoples hard work. Death to that ****er.

Really classy how he was going to put commercial video game ROMs onto the phone/memory card too.
Not only was this guy trying to rip off the individuals here at XDA-dev, but also large corporations as well...
S-M-R-T

chenga said:
Really classy how he was going to put commercial video game ROMs onto the phone/memory card too.
Not only was this guy trying to rip off the individuals here at XDA-dev, but also large corporations as well...
S-M-R-T
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I asked him about the programs and whether he developed them or not, here is the response I got:
"no not personally, but do talk to some of the developers and i donate some of my profit to them. any other questions feel free to ask
thanx
nate"
"i do cook my own roms if thats what you are asking, and just recieved an email asking me to remove this service and aparently reported to ebay, so i will not be able to offer this service at this time
sry
nate"
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Good Catch myztikal47.
I guess we can all help the developers here by keeping an eye out for this kind of crap.
I think it wouldn't be a bad Idea to have a sticky on this topic, something with an eye catching title, so more are aware of this issue, so as to be looking out for stinking thieves at places like ebay or craigslist.

I think it was only a question of time. There is no way how to block this. He can use new account, new name or whatever. we have similar problem on our forum, it is strictly technical forum about repairing TV, radio, video, SAT, PC... and we also have big storage with service manuals, service tips and few guys from us steal this infos from us and trying to profit on these! those information have price of gold, but is no help to stop this. So we decide for higher security, for restriction who can download files, and vice-versa etc. but here is not so easy I think, this will kill this forum.

wow he even had a picture of JJ rom on the page thats the lowest of low stealing and turning anround and making a profit off of it... His address is at the bottom of the page if anyone wants to send him a thank you card!

sinmae said:
I think it was only a question of time. There is no way how to block this. He can use new account, new name or whatever. we have similar problem on our forum, it is strictly technical forum about repairing TV, radio, video, SAT, PC... and we also have big storage with service manuals, service tips and few guys from us steal this infos from us and trying to profit on these! those information have price of gold, but is no help to stop this. So we decide for higher security, for restriction who can download files, and vice-versa etc. but here is not so easy I think, this will kill this forum.
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I don't think I take such a gloomy view. I agree it is impossible to stop someone selling a service and it is not in the spirit of this forum to sell either advice or cooked ROMs etc. But to play "devil's advocate" for a minute, what is it we object to? Is it that these folk are making money? Is it the lack of acknowledgement to the people who have put in all the development work? Is it the danger that selling this type of thing brings unwanted attention from M$ and telecom service providers?
I personally don't object to someone selling their time to help someone who lacks knowledge though they should tell the customer that they could learn for free from this site. If someone offered me cash to help them flash a ROM I don't think I'd feel guilty if I accepted money to do it. (Though I never have!).
I feel the main reason to block this kind of activity is that we already have unwanted attention from the likes of M$ without being associated with the sale of a service that relys on what M$ consider to be illegally altered M$ material. The very act of selling the service will bring a much harder approach from M$ IMO. No longer would we we seen as a bunch of keen dedicated geeky amateurs, but people out to profit illegally from M$ original work.
I notice on a brighter note that the two cases of this I am aware of are no longer available through ebay. In one case the individual has withdrawn the service and the other was removed by ebay.
EDIT: One of them is BACK
As a warning to others who might follow - selling a service or ROMs in this very public way is almost certainly illegal, particularly if bundled with a whole lot of other commercial games etc. If you want to take on the M$ legal team then this is a good way to go about it - remember it's not just the developers here that are not giving permission it is M$ original work that is being made available in a "corrupted" form.
Mike

This guy is back! But in a different flavor. I just found this today on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/CINGULAR-8525-HT...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
He is WAAAAYYY overcharging on this phone. His justification? 1) the free upgrades found on this site, and 2) a CD of cracked illegal software.
And I fell sorry for this buyers who fell for his iPhone upgrade scam:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/HTC-CINGULAR-812...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.ca/HTC-CINGULAR-812...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I can't believe people fell for that!

this isnt that much different from offering a service to fix phones that users have broken. IE i upgraded to windows mobile 6 and now it doesnt turn on.
yes hes selling other peoples work but really the people that pay him arnt paying him for the software they are paying him for the knowledge he has gained from reading
i would offer a repair service for noobs but theres allready people doing it.
its actually no different to taking a black rom and not donating then complaining about it

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And I fell sorry for this buyers who fell for his iPhone upgrade scam:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/HTC-CINGULAR-812...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.ca/HTC-CINGULAR-812...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I can't believe people fell for that!
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What is to say those buyers are not M$ trying to get the individuals information and then suing him later? Just a thought...

IMO it's fine for him to sell phone with the software pre-loaded on them already, thats like anyone on here selling their phone with all the hacks already done....but to actually have a service to install the software on the phone and profit from that, and not pay the people who created the software...well thats illegal, someone should just report him to Microsoft, they'll have a field day with him lol.

myztikal47 said:
IMO it's fine for him to sell phone with the software pre-loaded on them already, thats like anyone on here selling their phone with all the hacks already done....but to actually have a service to install the software on the phone and profit from that, and not pay the people who created the software...well thats illegal, someone should just report him to Microsoft, they'll have a field day with him lol.
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I agree with you on that but look at how much higher he is selling the phone because of the free softwares. It's the same as offering the service, basically.

he must need some money to be doing this...this guy must be a crack addict...or meth...yeah probably meth addict, anyways
I'm saddened to see stuff like this go on...coupled with these annoying noobs flooding the forums, m$ being ever so watchful, and the eventuality of newer devices...the great people of XDA might just get turned off from all of this...i know some are already extremely annoyed
...only time will tell

I have a close personal friend that works for Microsoft in their Windows Mobile team and I am going to forward this thread as well as the links to the ebay auctions over to him.

mikechannon said:
I don't think I take such a gloomy view. I agree it is impossible to stop someone selling a service and it is not in the spirit of this forum to sell either advice or cooked ROMs etc. But to play "devil's advocate" for a minute, what is it we object to? Is it that these folk are making money? Is it the lack of acknowledgement to the people who have put in all the development work? Is it the danger that selling this type of thing brings unwanted attention from M$ and telecom service providers?
I personally don't object to someone selling their time to help someone who lacks knowledge though they should tell the customer that they could learn for free from this site. If someone offered me cash to help them flash a ROM I don't think I'd feel guilty if I accepted money to do it. (Though I never have!).
I feel the main reason to block this kind of activity is that we already have unwanted attention from the likes of M$ without being associated with the sale of a service that relys on what M$ consider to be illegally altered M$ material. The very act of selling the service will bring a much harder approach from M$ IMO. No longer would we we seen as a bunch of keen dedicated geeky amateurs, but people out to profit illegally from M$ original work.
I notice on a brighter note that the two cases of this I am aware of are no longer available through ebay. In one case the individual has withdrawn the service and the other was removed by ebay.
EDIT: One of them is BACK
As a warning to others who might follow - selling a service or ROMs in this very public way is almost certainly illegal, particularly if bundled with a whole lot of other commercial games etc. If you want to take on the M$ legal team then this is a good way to go about it - remember it's not just the developers here that are not giving permission it is M$ original work that is being made available in a "corrupted" form.
Mike
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I will point out a couple of things wrong with this Mike... 1. He is using JJ's roms and i highly doubt JJ is getting any kind of kickback. 2. His ebay username nateshuntsvegas is the same as on here. That alone could very well attract some negative attention as if M$ havent given us a hard time the way it is.
the rest of it i agree with

shogunmark said:
I will point out a couple of things wrong with this Mike... 1. He is using JJ's roms and i highly doubt JJ is getting any kind of kickback. 2. His ebay username nateshuntsvegas is the same as on here. That alone could very well attract some negative attention as if M$ havent given us a hard time the way it is.
the rest of it i agree with
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I don't disagree with your comment, but as JJ's work is freely available for folk to download it's impossible to stop anyone selling services to install it. But yes the negative attention of M$ (linked as it is to here) is certainly not what we want. If we are seen by M$ to be set against any moves to sell this kind of material or a service to install it I'm sure this will improve their view of us.
Mike

Warning HTCCODE website, forum user FerrariPassion

**UPDATE , I DID GET THE CODE HOWEVER I WOULD TAKE TIME TO READ THIS THREAD BEFORE USING THESE GUYS**
These are the guys that claim on their website....
Unlock any HTC phone locked to any network worldwide instantly!
# Full money back guarantee if we fail at our end.
A word of warning on these guys , they take your money and then when they cannot provide a code your phone they make a few excuses and then stop responding to PM's or emails , the user on this forum is ferraripassion and the website is htccode.com they also use totalgsm software. Here is another site they operate under http://www.simunlock-htchero.com/buy.html
My phone is locked to the three network in the UK and the IMEI number is not in their database.
I am sure when everything runs smoothly they are fine , however the judge of a good company is when something goes wrong !!
They are based in Banaglore according to whois , might pay them a visit as I am over there next week
Anyway would be great if you could make this a sticky so that other people at least deal with these guys with their eyes open.
I will update this thread if they either refund my money or if they provide the unlock code both are promises that they made on the website.
Mark

I fully agree that they are not very hot on communication, but I don't think they're fraudulent. I got my code from them a while ago, but it did take a week or so and communication was very poor.
Regards.
Dave

Well i am at two weeks and waiting ....
Mark

and let me just say this, I emailed another site THIS MORNING asking for unlock with this phone, and guess what !!! its the same people. See below for what they say when i ask if they can unlock phone, they dont realise its the same person... inbetween time they have ignored my emails and PM's about the original purchase.
Can you unlock this phone HTC Hero , locked to Three UK
IMEI number below.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sudarshan
to me
Hi
Yes, you have to purchase the code on www.htccode.com
- Show quoted text -
regards
www.totalgsm.org

i've had the same experience, code not in their database. Please wait 3-4 days and PM Ferrari person again. So i did, but no reply.

did you ever get an unlock solution ?

not as of yet, i bought the code a week ago thursday

i used htccode, the client generated the unlock key almost instantly. I found that it didnt work in the end and got a refund. But i found out my Orange UK Hero had the new ROM which used orange's own unlock algorithm. All i did was downgrade it and flash it with MoDaCo's custom rom and the key worked fine.

markiehill said:
These are the guys that claim on their website....
Unlock any HTC phone locked to any network worldwide instantly!
# Full money back guarantee if we fail at our end.
A word of warning on these guys , they take your money and then when they cannot provide a code your phone they make a few excuses and then stop responding to PM's or emails , the user on this forum is ferraripassion and the website is htccode.com they also use totalgsm software. Here is another site they operate under http://www.simunlock-htchero.com/buy.html
My phone is locked to the three network in the UK and the IMEI number is not in their database.
I am sure when everything runs smoothly they are fine , however the judge of a good company is when something goes wrong !!
They are based in Banaglore according to whois , might pay them a visit as I am over there next week
Anyway would be great if you could make this a sticky so that other people at least deal with these guys with their eyes open.
I will update this thread if they either refund my money or if they provide the unlock code both are promises that they made on the website.
Mark
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I did tell you that the code will be given as soon as the database is updated.
I have the fresh database now and the code is there.
Please give me the IMEI no.

Raitei said:
i've had the same experience, code not in their database. Please wait 3-4 days and PM Ferrari person again. So i did, but no reply.
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Hi
Your code has been sent.

code recieved and works

Another one here !!!
I'm in the same position, no code, no money.....
I don't know what happened, but is very sad to me to waste my money for nothing....
Greetings

i got the code late last night and it works for htc on THREE , seems this thread hurried them along.
Mark

tried to get my code earlier but said my IMEI wasn't recognised. Emailled ferrari passion off here and sent the crap through they need via that gsm server.
I will add however it is an incredibly poor show that they take money for a service they don't even know for certain they can give i.e whether or not they can unlock your phone, and can only clarify this once they have your money.
I'm sure the word "fraud" fits in there somewhere...from wiki "In the broadest sense, a fraud is an intentional deception made for personal gain ..."

they do not offer any explanation to the delays which is the annoying bit.
In the end I did get my code so they can do it when pushed .... I just think they fail to communicate when things do not go to plan.
In my case it was three weeks of it will be tomorrow or no replies ... I post this thread and raise a pay-pal dispute and it is solved within one day.
At least this thread will let people see what kind of service they offer and then they can make their own mind if they want to spend the money.
Mark

Yes i hear you mate, well we'll see, at the end of the day its £14 so i was prepared to take the risk. I'm also a pain in the arse when it comes to getting ripped off so i'm sure i'll get somewhere. It clearly says on their website that they can unlock htc heroes on orange, they take £14 off me then say they can't....hmmm

Like I have said before. Phones are being manufactured everyday and Orange etc.. rolls them out in batches.
It is impossible to update the database everyday with so many IMEI's.
So this happens monthly or once in 2 weeks.
@mark
I did tell you that I will email you once the code has been obtained and that has been done.
Now the main database has been updated with 2 million records, so there should be no problem with the automated system.
@crazy email me your IMEI no, will have a look.
And am 100% no one else would have got you the code this fast. You can still try with other providers who are on the net, you will get a response saying code not in database and you will be offered a refund and not a code.

Your totally missing the point here mate, it says on your website "Unlock any HTC phone locked to any network worldwide instantly!". Not in two weeks or when you can be bothered to find the code.
What your doing is like royal mail advertising next day special delivery and then saying well we'll deliver it when we get round to it, can't guarantee when though.
Your are clearly advertising a service you cannot provide or am i missing some smallprint here?
I emailed you my IMEI as soon as the software failed to generate my code? However I shall "instantly" do it again.

@ crazy
The mistake is at your end.
You have not read the instructions.
The code has been generated , but you have not clicked on get using the software.
http://www.htccode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=9

@ Fradulentpassion
Yes it does work now your right, however from the information i sent you last night when i tried you will know exactly what i did? Seems funny how a quick rant on here has got results! You still fail to aknowledge the short fallings in your service though which is the issue here?
Thanks anyway. For all those people wondering, code received, orange htc hero now unlocked. Result

ebay SCAM! REPORT THIS SELLER!

guys someone is actually selling this on ebay! wth?
can you block/report items like this?
he is actually stealing your work and donations!
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-HD2-Android...&otn=3&po=LVI&ps=63&clkid=5747815010145007575

Don't worry, People that have HD2 in their hands wouldn't be that stupid.

Don't be so sure about that. Just look at the number of stupid posts by people who can't figure out how to drop a folder on their sd card and touch haret.
Somebody should report that guy. He could be taking cash from the pockets of the developers on this site.

I can't beleve that he is actually selling them, I mean, people are buying them!!!!! WTF????

Sign into ebay and report auction
brianwilkie76 said:
I can't beleve that he is actually selling them, I mean, people are buying them!!!!! WTF????
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If you have an ebay account, just select auction and hit the report button to ebay, and they will close that auction... I did that to a few of them... When you report the auction, just be sure to include XDA web site so ebay can see that the info is there for free, and those people selling the info is fraud.......

Yeah its not good!! Some people will fall for it...

According to his listings he has sold 8 copies so far for US$10.
Also this one selling an SD card with it on for GBP£30
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HD2-ANDROID-I...MobilePhones_MobilePhones&hash=item2c56e0f5ab
I am not an ebay customer, but can he be stopped? He/They are selling a copy of freely available work. Only a chef can stop them if they claim property rights.
Best way is for an ebay customer to look at who purchased a copy, contact them through ebay contact email, let them know they were conned and ask if they will give you sellers name, address and/or email, then add comments to ebay forum.

i reported his listing on ebay. please report also if possible
Code:
Please note that this is a system generated email; please do not reply to this email because it won't reach us. You can contact the Customer support using the help section from the navbar.
Listing Policy Breaches > Counterfeits and breach of copyright > Other potential infringement > Beta software, test software, or evaluation software
Item Numbers(s):
190436144555
Message: this is a FREE item from www.xda-developers.com
it is open source and it is illegal to be sold!!

I reported this crook as well. Maybe change your thread title to "eBay Scam" to attract more needed attention.

There's more of that crap:
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-HD2-Android-Froyo-2-2-/170541861010?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item27b5164892
Some asshole tries to make easy money with the work of others, and against the free license too.

there have been thread after thread about people doing this , and every one came to one conclusion ....let them do what they do ...it makes you look like a hater

malex1 said:
According to his listings he has sold 8 copies so far for US$10.
Also this one selling an SD card with it on for GBP£30
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HD2-ANDROID-I...MobilePhones_MobilePhones&hash=item2c56e0f5ab
I am not an ebay customer, but can he be stopped? He/They are selling a copy of freely available work. Only a chef can stop them if they claim property rights.
Best way is for an ebay customer to look at who purchased a copy, contact them through ebay contact email, let them know they were conned and ask if they will give you sellers name, address and/or email, then add comments to ebay forum.
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well, this one is not that bad. he tells that the payment is only for the work he does.
he does that only for the ones that doesnt understand how to do it alone
he even writes that every purchase gives a donation to the devs of the hd2 android project and gives credits to the devs.. so i dont know if its really that bad as u say?
i mean, he is not selling the software, the buyers only pay his work

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there have been thread after thread about people doing this , and every one came to one conclusion ....let them do what they do ...it makes you look like a hater
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It's actually illegal, and making money from someone else's work, which is also thievery.
I can't see why someone would defend such people... unless you are one of them, of course.

D4rkSoRRoW said:
well, this one is not that bad. he tells that the payment is only for the work he does.
he does that only for the ones that doesnt understand how to do it alone
he even writes that every purchase gives a donation to the devs of the hd2 android project and gives credits to the devs.. so i dont know if its really that bad as u say?
i mean, he is not selling the software, the buyers only pay his work
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No! This should never be sold, thus community we are all part of is gree, that's what makes it so good, most make donations. But there donations, its wrong if he is making donations then is he making them to the likes of cotulla and his team and all the other cooks that have given us their time! It's crap these guys should be tracked down and banned of xda
Sent from my HTC HD2 using Tapatalk

Wildcopper said:
It's actually illegal, and making money from someone else's work, which is also thievery.
I can't see why someone would defend such people... unless you are one of them, of course.
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the only way you would know is if you was a customer lmao

i don’t think that someone that cannot do it himself/herself should pay though! We never denied help to anyone around here and personally i even received two phones by mail, unlocked them, flashed a custom rom and send them back so no i will not say "it's ok"
i volunteer if any of those sellers needs help to send me the SD and i will send it back with the Android OS (i don’t believe its necessary though, its some simple steps)
i will try to contact the newswritters abt this issue

Wildcopper said:
It's actually illegal, and making money from someone else's work, which is also thievery.
I can't see why someone would defend such people... unless you are one of them, of course.
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why should this be illegal?? if you pay for his work of compiling information, and not for the build itself? he says he'll send instructions, not a file/zip/sdcard/device...
don't get me wrong - i'm not defending this guy. but there's a difference between being illegal and being impolite/unfair/an as*h*le....
to state it clear once again: i personally don't like what the guy is doing, i do not support this inacceptable behaviour.

hebbe said:
why should this be illegal?? if you pay for his work of compiling information, and not for the build itself? he says he'll send instructions, not a file/zip/sdcard/device...
don't get me wrong - i'm not defending this guy. but there's a difference between being illegal and being impolite/unfair/an as*h*le....
to state it clear once again: i personally don't like what the guy is doing, i do not support this inacceptable behaviour.
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It is always a gray area as eBay sellers only sell the links (most of them don't even compile the instructions themselves), they do not sell the software. It is a shame that this happens (has happened for years), but they clearly state that they are only providing the info on how to do things. I agree that no one should sell even knowledge that is not theirs, but technically speaking, it is not illegal. They are only selling info...
I still reported it though, but I doubt anything good will come out of it.

Unfortunately there is no law against people profiting off of stupidity.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

Well it looks like Ebay took care of it. Thread closed

[Q] i9505 IMEI code

Hi everyone,
the police in my little city is investigating a murder (which is here a real rarity) and i don't know how they come to me and invite me to answer qeustions as a witness but anyway they have also noted down the IMEI code of my phone
So now i am interested in why they did that, and what can they all do with my imei code, track me, hear my phone calls etc ?
Also is there a way i could change the imei because i don't feel comfortable now :S

arnes_king said:
Hi everyone,
the police in my little city is investigating a murder (which is here a real rarity) and i don't know how they come to me and invite me to answer qeustions as a witness but anyway they have also noted down the IMEI code of my phone
So now i am interested in why they did that, and what can they all do with my imei code, track me, hear my phone calls etc ?
Also is there a way i could change the imei because i don't feel comfortable now :S
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Possibly, but not very easy
First is illegal
at the same time if someone is following you, you will need to change the sim card
on the other hand, the police are - they will still find a way to reach you

Are you guilty?
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk

Ooooh someone's trying to hide something me thinks

LoL
I am 23 years old, i am studying i have no police records and everyone who knows me knows is laughing about that i was questioned about that case because everyone knows that it is ridiculous that i have anything in common with that
I just feel irritated because i have no clue why they questioned me and i was interested in knowing for what exactly they need my imei code, i have no problem with it that they trace me or hear my phone calls just because i have nothing to hide, but it is really uncomfortable when you know that someone takes your privacy ...
If i had something to hide, would i post with my account where all my info is?

I am holding a Note 4 - can I help?

Hey,
Sorry, I know this thread will probably be irrelevant, but it just occurred to me. I have a Western Note 4 (I'll keep country vague just for my own protection). I'm very technical and a massive Android Power User, but not a Dev. But if there is any use in me doing a system dump or anything, I'm happy to do it, with a little guidance.
Feel free to ask any Qs etc,

No, just send me the whole phone.
Sent from my N9005

smeddy said:
Hey,
Sorry, I know this thread will probably be irrelevant, but it just occurred to me. I have a Western Note 4 (I'll keep country vague just for my own protection). I'm very technical and a massive Android Power User, but not a Dev. But if there is any use in me doing a system dump or anything, I'm happy to do it, with a little guidance.
Feel free to ask any Qs etc,
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Hi, this is a very new phone and I really need info from it. If you don't mind please install this Phone INFO ★Samsung★ app and send (PM or email) me screenshots from it.
I also need your help to test the function 'Refurbishment Check' (under the Menu).
Thanks for your time.

I find it quite funny that you're not telling us the country for security reasons.
If you're worried about it being a 'leak', the phone has been on official sale in the Netherlands since the 16th. Don't worry.
If you're worried about us finding out where you're from, you might want to remove the 'London, UK' from your profile.
Any chance you could send me the entire phone? No? Awwwww....

ShadowLea said:
I find it quite funny that you're not telling us the country for security reasons.
If you're worried about it being a 'leak', the phone has been on official sale in the Netherlands since the 16th. Don't worry.
If you're worried about us finding out where you're from, you might want to remove the 'London, UK' from your profile.
Any chance you could send me the entire phone? No? Awwwww....
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Maybe s/he will give you it in exchange for locating things on his computer? Or a discount for your opinion of his/her digital organisation?
Again, as per your arrogant opinions about my computers and me, you assume too much. Why should s/he be in London because of a profile/avatar? Mine says "Gelderd End, 1974". I am not there. It doesn't even exist anymore. And only people with a working knowledge of football stadia 40 years ago - or with enough interest to Google it - would have the slightest inkling to what I'm referring to...