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Hi Everybody!
I am just loving this SHIFT!!! Thanks for the board, and specifically Paul from MoDaCo... I have finally liberated my CDMA-Shift.
Hey,
I found this out by accident ... I use my Shift via VGA out to my flat screen; and, in doing so, while switching between Vista and SnapVue (errr, WinMo, thanks to Paul). I noticed that the VGA - Monitor keeps the Vista side on, while on the Shift itself, the WinMo displays on the device, therefore, I am able to view (and access) both WinMO and Vista at the same time. This comes in handy when you're a multi-tasker like me.
It's pretty nifty to be able to use your Vista side via VGA out all the while having that ability to have access to WinMO simultaneously.
If you haven't tried it, check it out!
Great, so simple. I liked that idea. I don't k now if it is useful, but it looks cool.
just bought a 37 inch tv. i'm viewing some movies via the shift on it but never tried to swich to snapvue to see what does it do. Anyway it's kind of cool, will try. Now the shift should look like a fancy barebone system on my desk.
MrJinx said:
I found this out by accident ... I use my Shift via VGA out to my flat screen; and, in doing so, while switching between Vista and SnapVue (errr, WinMo, thanks to Paul). I noticed that the VGA - Monitor keeps the Vista side on, while on the Shift itself, the WinMo displays on the device, therefore, I am able to view (and access) both WinMO and Vista at the same time. This comes in handy when you're a multi-tasker like me.
It's pretty nifty to be able to use your Vista side via VGA out all the while having that ability to have access to WinMO simultaneously.
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If you use it simultaneously, Shift's keyboard and mouse are used for WinMo, and external keyboard and mouse work in Vista.
You can have your vista side connected via HSDPA and your vista via WiFi.
- You could have an IM conversation with yourself!
HTC shift is so inventive. It's like computer lego.
One question, where would the WM sound eminate?
when i'm in my office, i start windows vista and switch to snapvue.
then i connect from my desktop to the shift-vista using remote desktop. so i have snapvue on the shift screen and shift-vista on my desktop (using my desktop monitor, keyboard and mouse)...
this is cool.
VERY COOL INDEED! I am so glad to have discovered this on my Shift. I use it with a wireless keyboard/mouse for the Vista side via external Monitor, while the WinMO/SnapVue side stays up on running, syncing the updates from Outlook.
Now if we can get the SD card to work on the WinMO side!!!
-Harold
MrJinx said:
VERY COOL INDEED! I am so glad to have discovered this on my Shift. I use it with a wireless keyboard/mouse for the Vista side via external Monitor, while the WinMO/SnapVue side stays up on running, syncing the updates from Outlook.
Now if we can get the SD card to work on the WinMO side!!!
-Harold
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Sounds great, I'd like to have both working at the same time... hehe .. still 4 months to wait to get my shift !! grr.
I don't think SD card could be a good thing for WinMO if it is not a shared ressource. Because readyboost is really interesting and we should keep it on Vista side for that.
Hello,
Does anyone knows how to install Windows 7 on the HTC HD2?
I've seen it on You Tube
t seems to me that like Android it is possible to have Windows 7 running on a HTC HD2.
I'm very interested to have it running on mine HD2.
Would anyone help me with it?
Many thanks
that's remote desktop.
windows 7
why would you want to?
thats not remote desktop because in remote desktop you cant use it in letterbox orientation, and doesnt have any keyboard the movie its very buggy thats a sign of uncompatible graphic mode but if thats real its good to have it like ubuntu and android
darkanubispr said:
thats not remote desktop because in remote desktop you cant use it in letterbox orientation, and doesnt have any keyboard the movie its very buggy thats a sign of uncompatible graphic mode but if thats real its good to have it like ubuntu and android
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There is landscape mode for remote desktop, you just have to flip it to landscape before you connect!
I can use the windows keyboard also.
Until WM7 is figured out it will be more locked down than WM6.5 meaning the opportunities to mod your phone to your liking with be less.
OK,
Thanks for your reply's
I wanted to use Windows 7 because I'll find it very easy to work with and I'm used to it
I tried a WAD-skin from Rajivshahi but the skin doesn't function very well on my device.
Perhaps I'm doing something wrong.
Maybe somebody knows something like Windows XP or Vista wich will work on the HTC HD2?
Are you serious?!?
Look at the specs needed to run Windows 7:
1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor.
1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit).
16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit).
DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver.
Sure, we do have a 1HGz CPU, it's even 32bit! But it's NOT x86 or x64, it's a RISC processor using the ARMv7 instruction set.
Unless someone gets a hold of the sourcecode for Windows 7 and recompiles it for the ARMv7 instruction set, it won't be possible!
Even IF someone got the sourcecode, there are many things that should be adapted before porting Windows 7 to a mobile device like the HD2.
Oh, and then there's the RAM issue..
Sure, the HD2 has A LOT OF RAM compared to other Windows Mobile devices.. ..but it's still far away from 1 GB.
Which brings us to the next item on the list; "storage space"
In order to have 16GB, we need to use the Memory Card.
Sadly, the transfer speeds to and from the memory card is not as good as the ROM.
I don't have the speed figures right here, so I guess I can't argue that memory card speed isn't possible.
But I am 100% sure you'd need at least Class 6. (Those 16GB Class 6 cards are cheap, right?)
And at the end of the list; DirectX 9 graphics.
Thanks to one or more XDA members, we are slowly but steadily getting better #D hardware drivers.
Though we are not WDDM 1.0 compliant yet.
Probably never will be, as the hardware just isn't good enough.
You'll be happy to know, though, that we are able to emulate enough Intel CPU power to run Windows 95 on our devices!
YouTube
BenBok said:
I've seen it on You Tube
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If you look closely at that video in 720p, you'll notice the contents of "Computer"
I find it HIGHLY unlikely that his HD2 has THAT much storage space on either C: or D:
Where he's gotten that third local disk drive from, I have no idea..
Or how he got two DVD-ROMs conneted to it.
In the words of the youtube trolls; "Fake!"
Hmmm, just curious as to why you'd want something like that in your pocket. Buy an HTC Shift or a TabletPC. It'd much easier for you & probably cheaper to put Windows 7 on if you consider all the Advil, Aleve, Tylenol & whatever other headache medicine you'll save on.
OK,
You've got me convinced.
Dumb idea.
Is there any working skin to do the job on a HD2.
I've seen many skin's/ rom's, but till now nothing looks like something I want.
Maybe there is a site/tutorial how to make such a skin/ROM?
@topic
oh guys....
please....
search..........
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=677921
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688317
Bonzo said:
If you look closely at that video in 720p, you'll notice the contents of "Computer"
I find it HIGHLY unlikely that his HD2 has THAT much storage space on either C: or D:
Where he's gotten that third local disk drive from, I have no idea..
Or how he got two DVD-ROMs conneted to it.
In the words of the youtube trolls; "Fake!"
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It's not fake, it's remote desktop.
OK,
Since I'm curious how it's done, maybe one of you wants to tell me how to connect to my PC (windows 7) with Remote Desktop Mobile.
I'm not familiar with it, please tell me in plain English. Thanks
HD2 with capacitive screen is freaking useless on remote desktop!
if you want to remote desktop, get a windows phone with resistive screen!
notice on the video, he never used the on-screen keyboard (remote pc keyboard) cus it freaking impossible to use on capacitive screen!
BenBok said:
OK,
Since I'm curious how it's done, maybe one of you wants to tell me how to connect to my PC (windows 7) with Remote Desktop Mobile.
I'm not familiar with it, please tell me in plain English. Thanks
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If you have Win7 Home Premium, Home or Basic, you can't.
If you have Win7 Professional or Ultimate, then:
- Connect your HD2 to your Wifi network, then find the IP of the Win7 computer
- To find the IP on the Win7 computer;
click on Start
type ' command ' into the "Search Programs and Files" box
click on "Command Prompt"
type ' ipconfig ' into the black box that appears
press Return or Enter on your keyboard
in the list that comes up, look for "IP address" under the wireless adaptor, usually starts with 192.168
- Open Remote Desktop on your HD2
- Enter the IP address of your computer and try to connect.
- If it doesn't connect, try checking your firewall on your Win7 computer to make sure Remote Desktop is allowed.
netnerd said:
HD2 with capacitive screen is freaking useless on remote desktop!
if you want to remote desktop, get a windows phone with resistive screen!
notice on the video, he never used the on-screen keyboard (remote pc keyboard) cus it freaking impossible to use on capacitive screen!
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Yeah, I agree.
Though I wonder if a bluetooth keyboard would work. probably?
Touch-screen works and that's input. And we can get output from the host computer. Maybe I'll try that one day.
Hi guys, i tried to install windows 7 on my HD2,
seems ok.
but Android is the way forward for apps
mannhoe said:
Hi guys, i tried to install windows 7 on my HD2,
seems ok.
but Android is the way forward for apps
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Wow, you got Windows 7 on your HD2? Now that would be a development...
(Guess it´s Windows Phone 7, no?).
Concerning apps, I don´t understand what people want...
Is it the number of apps which stands for the quality of what you get? According to my personal experience and opinion, 95% of all apps in Apple´s app store are just crap, and Android? Well, quite a bit chaotic, and quite a lot of crap, too.
But then again, thanks to a huge devs community like you find it here at xda, Android has a massive number of small apps which are really following user requests. And not just farts and other useless joke apps.
Hi, I just installed my netbook without realising it cant run metro apps. As per title, does anyone know a way that i could make them work on the native 1024*600 resolution..
I know theres a resolution hack workaround.. but my netbook runs on amd c-50 processor hd6250 gpu.. the reso hack does not work with mine..
Anyone knows any alternative methods?
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Which netbook do you have? Are you running 32-bit or 64-bit Windows? Aside from an external monitor, the answer is dependent on the hardware & driver combination, from what I understand. Have you used AMD's Mobility Radeon Driver Verification Tool to see what latest driver it recommends or tried installing the latest Catalyst (12.10) which just came out recently? How about the latest beta (12.11 Beta)?
By hack your referencing regedit value change right? If so, then the driver is probably your best hope.
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Thanks for the reply.. by hack i mean registry change yea..
I installed the latest catalyst driver, but havent tried the beta version though.. might give it a try but dont think it would work either, did lots of googling and most of them relates to registry hack
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eugenechiuu said:
Thanks for the reply.. by hack i mean registry change yea..
I installed the latest catalyst driver, but havent tried the beta version though.. might give it a try but dont think it would work either, did lots of googling and most of them relates to registry hack
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
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I cannot be held responsible if this melts your netbook, but you could try the Custom Resolution Utility. I'm sure there are plenty of other Windows 8 netbook users, who cannot get the "typical" registry hack found scattered around the internet to work, who would love to know if this worked for you.
earthsound said:
I cannot be held responsible if this melts your netbook, but you could try the Custom Resolution Utility I'm sure there are plenty of other Windows 8 netbook users, who cannot get the "typical" registry hack found scattered around the internet to work, who would love to know if this worked for you.
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Hi, i tried the program, I was able to set the resolution to 1024×768, but after the computer is unusable, the bottom of the screen is not visible ... Too bad
I'm curious about what happens when you can't run "metro apps" on a low-res screen. What doesn't work? Can you not launch anything besides Desktop and desktop apps on the start screen? Do you get a start screen at all or just desktop?
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I'm curious about what happens when you can't run "metro apps" on a low-res screen. What doesn't work? Can you not launch anything besides Desktop and desktop apps on the start screen? Do you get a start screen at all or just desktop?
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Everything works, except the apps meters that if you start a message appears informing you that the resolution is too low
Hello i collect old phones like htc advantage and other winmo and nokia devices.
But the shift is still kinda expensive.
I have an oppurtunity to buy one for 100 euro.
Point is i like to play with those devices alot.
At the moment i am trying to get truevga and mods on the advantage.
But is the Shift still capable?
I mean 800mHz is quite underpowered. Will it play youtube at lets say 720p fullscreen?
I understand it isnt capable of full hd streamin.
And what about games.
i like to play older games anything from need for speed (up till underground so 1-6)
And emulators? especially n64 because its the heaviest one i am planning to use.
Its quite alot of money for such old device and on ebay i didnt find anything to compare the price with
so valuewise is it worth it? 100euro is like 115 dollar with todays course.
the device itself is practically unused but comes formatted so i have to install windows.
I do this alot on laptops and pcs. and i am also no stranger in flashing winmo and android so i dont expect to run into any problems if there is still support and i can find drivers and stufff
I hope some of my questions can be answered.
wow its really a low activity device
no one got any tips?
100 Euro is quite a good price. On eBay it's usually much more expensive.
One thing you have to keep in mind is the RAM size- you'll have to get a
214 pin 2GB to make Shift run nearly satisfying.
Like this one:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/2GB-DDR2-214...y-HTC-SHIFT-/190400263728?hash=item2c54bd7630
Unfortunately i have never found a 4GB RAM version.
Thx for reply
thats quite expensive for 2gb ram...
So can it run youtube...
i havent decided yet if i am gonna do it or not
it includes a dmg 01 gameboy.. so it makes it kinda tempting
i already have a broad collection of phones en pre tablet tablets
i will reply when i get it.
sooo i bought it.
Really nice device
didnt came with windows though
so i installed windows 7.
got the drivers working even with 5 year old threads here with dead links
Touchscreen is working
but wifi isnt. So i think the wifi was switched off in vista...
thats not my big issue it wasnt my plaaning to use the wifi because of the performance of this device.
So i will check that some other time.
What i do want to have solved is a bigger problem. I m trying to install some light games en emulators on there.
First up N64. Runs windowed. not great but playable but when i try to go fullscreen i get BSOD. 2times in a row and then windows wouldnt start so i had to run the startup repair. Now its working again. Just not in fullscreen...
Other problem is with retro city rampage this game isnt even 3d.
it seems to start but the moment it switches to fullscreen i get the BSOD instantly...
Is this a driver problem? i recall i have read somewhere that u shoudlnt update the intel gma driver but i could not find this post. and i dont know if i have done this or not i would need version numbers...
Maybe im 2years late ;P but i hope someone will know the answer.
in the meantime i have a GB DMG01 to play with and mod.
Is it such a legacy device that no one uses it anymore?
I have a Shift and I found Vista to be unusable compared to Ubuntu Hardy (8.04). I've heard better things about Win7 and even Win10, but at the end of the day, the machine has its hardware limits and at least for me, that precluded even Vista.
Hardy , through pof's magic, allows everything to run, even the 3G (if you have the SIM), and it's quite zippy. I don't game, but perhaps ubuntu (circa 2008) has enough games available. Of course, you could run Wine, but that can be a can of worms for certain MS software.
Though I run MS Word 97, HanDBase, and a couple of other MS apps without problem in Hardy.
Prolly best to stay away from heavy graphics. Maybe Leisure Suit Larry
Jake
I fixed the BSOD problem by reinstalling windows 7 and NOT installed the gpu driver update.
It runs like a breeze
GTA3 and vice city i can play on low settings but no lagg at al!
And the n64 emulator i get 60fps in fullscreen.
I would recommmend 7 to anyone with this device.
Only the wifi is not working because it was turned off in vista and i read its a hell of alot of work to turn it on without vista.
problem is i bought it without windows so i couldnt turn it on.
But its better for me saves alot off battery
This is pof's htc shift panel for Windows that controls wifi/bt/etc. I don't know if it works in Win7, but you can research to see if it's what you want before actually trying it out.
http://pof.eslack.org/2008/05/31/hsect-htc-shift-embedded-controller-toolkit/
Jake
Hey man thx for the tip
will try this when i get home from work.
ill report later
Ok wow
i need some program called cygwin
if i try to open it i get cygwin1.dll is missing
so im working on it
i found the program wil install it tonite and report back
Excellent. I'll be glad to hear that it works.
Jake
Hmm cygwin installed without any problems.
But now it asks for cygioperm-0.dll when i try to launch it.
i need to install ioperm says the readme but it seems i cant find it...
This is some kind of addon right?
Huh, dunno what those files are. Here are the Vista drivers, etc:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BzqfCViUrpr6UkVkY2lTLUIxSGs&usp=sharing
For Vista, the shagctrl program does wifi/bt/etc. you could try installing that and see if that gives you the missing .dlls/etc. It may run on its own, I just don't know. I have Vista on a partition, the shagctrl works, but I never use Vista/Windows.
Jake
shagctrl doesnt work in windows 7
only for resolution siwtch.
i got the hsect from this google drive page u gave me.
its same same download i found.
but this is in the readme.
HTC Shift Embedded Controller Toolkit
(c) 2008 Pau Oliva Fora - pof @ <eslack.org>
============================================
To build from source:
LINUX with GTK libraries:
# make gtk
LINUX without GTK libraries:
# make nogtk
WINDOWS with GTK libraries:
# make win32gtk
WINDOWS without GTK libraries:
# make win32
WINDOWS NOTES:
The windows version needs CYGWIN (http://cygwin.com) with "ioperm" support.
Open a cygwin shell and run "ioperm -i" to install the ioperm.sys driver.
when i type ioperm-i it doesnt recognize it as a legal command...
i am gonna try it tonite if i connect it to the internet with cable.
But otherwise i think i skipped a step somewhere.... will let u know.
I just run windows for the games.
its a pretty capable device for its specs.
GTA3 without problems.
Carmageddon tdr 2000
n64
all runs perfect
If you can't rebuild it, I suppose you could get a Hardy 8.04.1 (no higher) livecd, repartition and dual boot with Hardy (with pof's shagctrl) and Windows.
I don't believe you can install pof's shag with a livecd only (pof calls for a reboot), though MAYBE, you could install shag and only switch on wifi/bt without a reboot, I dunno.
Hardy is certainly snappier than Windows, but your needs don't seem to match what Hardy can do. Though dual booting is always cool.
Jake
Haha XD that is an option indeed.
But if i switch wifi on once i wouldnt be able to turn it off in windows right?
I want to preserve battery power whenever is necessary.
When i installed cygwin i noticed i could choose any packages and addons tobe installed
maybe i reinstall cygwin first and i can find this ioperm addon
Once wifi was turned on, I think you could disable its driver in Windows in the systray.
Ok i wil look into that.
First i keep trying to find ioperm for cygwin and how to add it
now when i open hsect it says cygwinioperm1.dll missing not exactly but close.
I dont get the option when i reintall cygwin. Also there isnt really a uninstall button... not in control panel not in the root folder.
I resurrected my HTC Shift to something noble in this pandemic: platform of old strategy games.
Running beautiful.
https://youtu.be/V9AadusOpMk
Very nice. Are you going to make any more videos?
When I get Windows 7 back on my Shift it's also going to be a dedicated retro games machine.
I have Windows 7 and Windows 10 on bootable USB sticks. In the past these have worked with my HTC Shift, but ever since I installed XP they boot and start but then reboot again. I suspect the HDD partitions are incompatible. I don't have an external DVD drive. Anyone know a solution to this sticky situation so that I can get Windows 7 back on my HTC Shift?
Recreate as partitions for Linux (a Live CD) and try to reinstall with USB.
I install on HTC via USB with Windows 7. I preferred the performance of it with the 7 over the 8 or 10.
About videos, yes, I'll post other videos of retro games. The idea is to use it as a platform for RPG and strategy games from the 90s. I'm solving some classic Starcraft problems, but other games are running very well. It together with the GOG is guaranteed success.
We only need to test Vampire the Masquerade now, but I believe it will have performance problems. I wanted to get a 2Gb memory for him, but in Brazil we can't find 214-pin memories.
I have finished re-purposing my HTC Shift as a dedicated offline retro games machine by installing Windows 7 on it.
I posted a few videos on youtube demonstrating it's capabilities.
Search youtube for "htc shift grand prix legends" or "htc shift halo" to see them.
which working windows 7 build are you using? Everytime I install Intel VGA driver(7[1].14.10.1461) over the newer version that's already installed I get a BSOD. Thanks in advance and nice video!
Hmm. I think I have seen that crash from time to time while doing a reinstallation of Windows. I don't think it is down to the specific Windows build. From vague memory, I think it can be avoided by disabling aero before installing the driver that is crashing. This can be done by going to windows themes and choosing a basic theme that doesn't have the graphicial effects. Either that, or find a particular sequence of driver installations that works. There definitely will be one. Once installed, aero can be reactivated with no problem. Another thought - I think screen resolution might also be a factor. Try running the HTC Shift control centre to change resolution, or run the ResolutionSwitchLauncher.exe directly, which installs as part of the HTC Shift Control Centre.