Hi people
Please kindly share your experience how successfuly you use Fring on your Trinity.
For me it works fine untill I press the power button, which sent the device to standby mode. Durring following few minutes the device wakes up on incomming IM-chats or VoIP-calls, but later on it doesn't.
My colleague uses Samsung i600 (smartphone, wm5) and Toshiba g900 (wm6), which both work fine with Fring without any special magic settings: device might be standby for hours but anyway wakes up on incomming IM-chats or VoIP-calls.
Any feedback will be much appreciated,
Alexey
How are you connected to the internet? Probably you are disconnected when the device goes in standby mode.
I also tried Fring on my Smasung i780. I had a different issue such as that when I would get a regular call, it would get disconnected after two seconds and the i780 would turn off or shut down till I pulled out the battery and turned it on again. Pretty unusable. This only happens when Fring runs in the background, when I have it off now, no problems at all.
Thanks for the feedbacks
Lugus von Thierfeld said:
...I had a different issue such as that when I would get a regular call, it would get disconnected after two seconds...
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BTW, GPRS connection is always dropped when a regular call occurs, it is normal behavior in such a case. I personally don’t mind because Fring is immediately trying to re-establish connection and usually Fring does it successfully (because device continues being active, not standby).
CrashingDutchman said:
How are you connected to the internet? Probably you are disconnected when the device goes in standby mode.
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How many variants I could have? I use GPRS (not WLAN - it causes freezing the device very often), and it definitely disconnected when the device went in standby mode. That's what I tried to explain in my initial post. As I understand, Fring by its concept is supposed to work in background even when the device in standby mode. But it worked for me until the device goes in standby mode. Yes, it continued working some time (5 mins) in standby mode, but later on it stopped receiving anything.
Finaly I managed to find a solution for me. I mean the post
Keep Wifi (BT, GPRS and ActiveSync) connected in standby
where provided some special magical registry tweaks. Now Fring works almost fine and I receive chats/calls even being in standby mode for hours, but I realy wonder how many Fring users on WM platform are aware of these tweaks. i think most of them even aren't aware about what the registry is!
Is it the only way to make Fring worked fine in standby mode?!
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by the phone indicator I mean the reception status indicator. after I wake from sleep mode it would not show any reception status at all. I cannot go into phone settings after that, would tell me wait 15 seconds then try again but after 15 seconds, same thing.
I can use the phone however, calls would connect and incoming calls would connect.
a related bug that I noticed, I cannot disable flight mode properly either. after entering flight mode phone shuts off (normal) but when I wake it would not come back alive. phone indicator remains with an 'X' on it and I cannot force it to register on my network.
running on Rogers Wireless in Canada. although I doubt the network is causing this grief.
anyone else experience this? so far there's only 1 ROM version available that I'm aware of. so I don't think that'll have any effects on this.
suggestions would be appericiated.
David
btw forgot to mention I'm on an I-mate K-JAM.
all else set aside this is an excellent device. being my first pocket PC I know I will have a great experience playing with WM5.
I have tried manually setting all sleep options to 0 with PHM regedit. that includes BT and phone.
in case any fellow Canadians are wondering about the availability of K JAM in canada. the answer is NO. I had to order it from a US store, paid a fortune clearing it from the customs and waited 2 weeks for shipping. tough luck being a Canadian .
Yep, this happens on mine as well. Sometimes it goes so far as to say "SIM status unknown." I hope a ROM update can fix it.
I have had the same issue on occasion... Not sure if it 3rd party software doing it though... Don't want to hard reset just yet...
I could not exit flight mode one time. Soft reset fixed it.
somewhat of a fix. I just turn power off after 3 min thing off while on battery. manually lock keys and turn screen off everytime I finish using the unit. the battery definitely sucks a whole lot more but phone don't go to sleep anymore which fixes the whole not recovering reception issue. and flight mode seems to work better as well.
strang said:
by the phone indicator I mean the reception status indicator. after I wake from sleep mode it would not show any reception status at all. I cannot go into phone settings after that, would tell me wait 15 seconds then try again but after 15 seconds, same thing.
I can use the phone however, calls would connect and incoming calls would connect.
a related bug that I noticed, I cannot disable flight mode properly either. after entering flight mode phone shuts off (normal) but when I wake it would not come back alive. phone indicator remains with an 'X' on it and I cannot force it to register on my network.
running on Rogers Wireless in Canada. although I doubt the network is causing this grief.
anyone else experience this? so far there's only 1 ROM version available that I'm aware of. so I don't think that'll have any effects on this.
suggestions would be appericiated.
David
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Same here with my Qtek 9100. And my 9100 continues to show the roaming icon even if I am under coverage of my home network (Vodafone Italy). I think that this one is a SIM related bug (I tried to use another SIM and everything was fine), waiting for the next ROM update.
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Is there any way to stop the phone disconnecting the wifi when in standby while at home ? I would like to leave MSN signed in then I can find out when anyone comes online and messages me.
Failing that is there any way to stop the phone going into standby and just get some kind of app that will just turn the screen off ?
I remember when I used a nokia 9500 a while back you just closed the phone but it was still connected to the wifi and you would get alerts when someone messaged you via msn.
knowsleyroader said:
Is there any way to stop the phone disconnecting the wifi when in standby while at home ? I would like to leave MSN signed in then I can find out when anyone comes online and messages me.
Failing that is there any way to stop the phone going into standby and just get some kind of app that will just turn the screen off ?
I remember when I used a nokia 9500 a while back you just closed the phone but it was still connected to the wifi and you would get alerts when someone messaged you via msn.
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Settings->Connections->Wireless LAN->Power Mode Tab-> set to best performance
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knowsleyroader said:
Is there any way to stop the phone disconnecting the wifi when in standby while at home ? I would like to leave MSN signed in then I can find out when anyone comes online and messages me.
Failing that is there any way to stop the phone going into standby and just get some kind of app that will just turn the screen off ?
I remember when I used a nokia 9500 a while back you just closed the phone but it was still connected to the wifi and you would get alerts when someone messaged you via msn.
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Settings->Connections->Wireless LAN->Power Mode Tab-> set to best performance
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So then it wont disconnect ?
Still disconnects as far as I can see.
Surely this isnt the first time this has been brought up ? I would have thought that was the bonus of one of these phones, you could be connected when at home to msn constantly ?
Well, the point of standby is to kill anything uneeded (e.g. everything except phone and storage).
What you can do is close the screen, this turns it off, and have it set not to go into standby after however long (power settings). However, wireless chews battery, so you might want toi use it on power.
First of all, you guys doing the development for our devices are simply amazing. By improving the usability of our pda phones you are actually significantly improving the quality of day to day life (at least for me personally). It's a big deal, so thank you for all your work.
I don't post very often, but I lurk every day and generally have no issues to post about, but now one has come about that I need some help with.
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So I just began using Chainfire's WMWifiRouter yesterday for the first time, and it works perfectly for me. To be able to wirelessly tether multiple laptops is an unbelievably useful and cool capability. One of the features built in which is a very welcome one is also causing me a problem.
As you all know (if you've used the program) it is set up to keep the wifi active if you hit the power button and put the device in standby.
My issue is that it seems that the change it makes to keep the wifi active in standby doesn't revert to the default setting when the program is closed. So when I'm not using the program and I am connected to a wifi network in my house, and I press the power button, the battery is still draining very fast. Normally I can keep it in standby all day just waiting for calls to come in to wake it up and the battery will barely go down. But today I put it in standby and try to turn it on a couple hours later and it's completely dead.
It is just my assumption that the problem is caused by what I described because using this program is the only new thing I've begun doing since yesterday before the problem existed. Soft reset doesn't change anything, and the "crash cleanup" option doesn't help.
Can anyone confirm that I am correct in my assumption of the cause of the problem? Or any other ideas of what could be causing it? Just to be clear, I'm using a version that came with my rom (Colonel's 12-28-07 custom rom for the sprint mogul) and it is an older verion, v.081. I would try the newest version, but I couldn't find any details on the website about how much it costs once the trial is over.
Thanks a lot if anyone can help, I'd appreciate any bits of insight even if you're not completely sure.
THANK YOU!
So, no one has any thoughts on this?
It is becoming quite annoying to have to turn off the wifi in the comm manager every time I put the phone into standby just so it's not dead in an hour and a half.
Also, if I leave the wifi on and hit the power button, when I turn it back on the symbol shows the wifi connection still active but when trying to stream a radio station or open a browser it won't connect, and I have to turn off and back on the wifi to get a new working connection.
I'd just like to know if any of the other thousands of wmwifirouter users have the same experience, or just haven't noticed it or what.
Thanks.
Mogulus: Please try my Wifi Profiles -option Wifi Power->Normal Mode in menu.
BINGO!!!
Your program absolutely did the trick, thank you so much.
The only other suggestion I got was to flip off the wifi switch before entering standby and flipping it back on when returning from standby. Well that is simple enough but when you're picking the thing up every few minutes to check a random thing that pops in your head, that extra step gets so annoying.
Again, thanks a lot, you can expect a donation from me.
Thank you!!
Mogulust:
You are welcome
And Your suggestion - added to tasklist
Hi all,
Dont know if this is a known error in the original ROM but my telephone crashes when it is in standby mode.
It looks like the problem is in the power manager.
SPECS:
Diamond 2
OEM UK ROM
Test Steps taken:
- in power manager auto standby mode OFF
: No problem phone stays alive
- auto standby mode OFF, manually brought into standby
: Problem after 5 - 10 minutes, phone does not come out of standby mode, reset needed
- auto standby mode ON
: same as above
- auto standby on, and manually brought uinto standby
: same..
this doesn't sound like a HW problem to me, but is there a known sollution ?
Thanks in advance..
Grtz.
i had the same problem before -- but with o2 stealth. and i was able to fix it by disabling the password lock in settings. i'm not sure if this will also work on diamond2. no harm in trying.
The sounds a little bit like the Standby of Death issue except I only used to get it every couple of days because I would spend a portion of my week in a strong 3G area the SOD coincided with me being in a weak 3G area. Try this
I had the Standby of Death SOD this is when the phone fails to come out of standby with a power button press. This issue only affects some people on some networks. I'm not sure if its a network problem or a software problem but as only a minority of people have it, I suspect its mainly a network problem there is a software solution.
The solution is to change the phone settings band option from auto 3G/2G to either 3G Only (WCDMA + UTMS 2100 in Europe) or 2G Only (GSM + AUTO) depending on your requirements.
Doompie said:
Hi all,
Dont know if this is a known error in the original ROM but my telephone crashes when it is in standby mode.
It looks like the problem is in the power manager.
SPECS:
Diamond 2
OEM UK ROM
Test Steps taken:
- in power manager auto standby mode OFF
: No problem phone stays alive
- auto standby mode OFF, manually brought into standby
: Problem after 5 - 10 minutes, phone does not come out of standby mode, reset needed
- auto standby mode ON
: same as above
- auto standby on, and manually brought uinto standby
: same..
this doesn't sound like a HW problem to me, but is there a known sollution ?
Thanks in advance..
Grtz.
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Hi
Disable the phone radio so it isn't connected to the nework, then try again, does it still fail to come out of standby? With a stock ROM which you say you have anyway do a hard-reset to wipe any programs or settings you may have made and try again, does it still fail to come out of standby?
If yes it is a hardware problem, most likely faulty RAM that can't keep the contents stored in standby mode when it's being refreshed at a lower rate and voltage.
Regards
Phil
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Hi
Disable the phone radio so it isn't connected to the nework, then try again, does it still fail to come out of standby? With a stock ROM which you say you have anyway do a hard-reset to wipe any programs or settings you may have made and try again, does it still fail to come out of standby?
Phil
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Good thinking Phillip, If he can reproduce the problem consistantly within 5 - 10 minutes then the phone radio might not be at fault in this instance, the quickest way to tell would be to disable the phone radio as you quite rightly suggest.
In my limited expierience with the SOD I could not reproduce it at will within 5-10 minutes, it just happened randomly 2-3 times over the course of a week and coincedently when I was in a weak 3G area (not such a coincedence! after all)
Admittedly I had the SOD only once again on my Tytn II in the 1.5 years after I changed the phone band settings from auto to GSM only, so it can happen for other reasons but it should be very rare indeed.
If you read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540943&highlight=standby&page=2 the resolution was to get a new SIM.
Obviously everything I've written above only solves the problem when the crash is because of the sim and/or settings which impact the sim. To rule out a software cause its best to start with a hard reset.
I have searched the forums and there are several threads about wifi in standby mode, some folks complaining their phone disconnects from wifi in standby mode and others who complain it doesn't... my problem is connected but distinct in that the way my phone handles wifi in standby has changed hence the reason I've started a new thread...
I have an HD2 and a few days ago had to perform a hard reset (my fault, I was fiddling about with the registry after having installed CHT 1.8.5).
I now have the phone running OK again but am experiencing a change in behaviour with Wifi disconnecting on standby as follows:
Before the reset, I would switch the phone on in the morning, it would connect to wifi and whilst at home would stay connected continiously to wifi (gprs/Edge/H would remain off) even when the phone went into standby.
Since the hard reset, when I switch phone on, it connects at first to wifi but after that, when phone goes into standby, wifi disconnects & gprs kicks in when phone retrieves e-mails etc. When I touch the screen to bring phone out of standby, the wifi reconnects but gprs remains on too (wouldn't be so bad if at least the gprs then turned off!). I then have to turn off gprs in Comm manager.
As I work from home, I prefer to use wifi as gprs drains the battery much quicker too (particulary if both wif & gprs remain connected I suppose). I have the latest version ROM that my provider (Virgin) supports so havent added any updates from the HTC site. Therefore the hard reset should not have made any difference to how wifi is handled on standby I presume
I have asked the Technical support at Virgin & all they could suggest was changing the 'power save mode' for wifi to 'best performance'. This made no difference either so they suggested I raise this with HTC which i have and await their reply (I'm not that confident they'll have the answer though)
Can anyone think why this behaviour has changed & how to revert back to having wifi stay connected in standby?
Thanks Folks
Les
Manilla Version 2.5.19211619.0
OS version 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
Rom Version 1.66.405.2 (76641) WWE
Radio Version 2.06.51.07
Various legit programs added but no Mods except CHT + editor
i suspect you had tweaked the wifi in standby setting in your previous set up, before the hard reset but maybe you don't remember.
so you were used to wifi remaining on, even in standby. but after the hard reset, the device has returned to the default behavior (i.e. wifi goes off in stand by).
you can use BSBTweaks to enable the option that keeps wifi on in standby but i have noticed that the setting does not stay after a simple soft reset.
so just download and install this! it works perfectly and remembers the setting between soft resets:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5353195
http://hd2apps.blogspot.com/2010/03/htc-hd2-apps-wifi-no-standby.html
ASCIIker said:
i suspect you had tweaked the wifi in standby setting in your previous set up, before the hard reset but maybe you don't remember.
so you were used to wifi remaining on, even in standby. but after the hard reset, the device has returned to the default behavior (i.e. wifi goes off in stand by).
you can use BSBTweaks to enable the option that keeps wifi on in standby but i have noticed that the setting does not stay after a simple soft reset.
so just download and install this! it works perfectly and remembers the setting between soft resets:
http://hd2apps.blogspot.com/2010/03/htc-hd2-apps-wifi-no-standby.html
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Thanks for the info, but no, I hadn't tweaked the wifi in standby setting as I wouldn't even know how too And didn't have BSB tweaks installed either before or now... That's what's got me confused!
check out this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5353195 this app works great
You have had to had something changed before the hard reset that would allow WiFi on standby, because it is not allowed by standard.
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check out this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5353195 this app works great
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Thanks, unless HTC come up with something, I will give this a go. I presume if you do want to turn wifi off, you still can in Comm manager?
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You have had to had something changed before the hard reset that would allow WiFi on standby, because it is not allowed by standard.
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I know it seems weird, but no, I'm sure I hadn't as I wouldn't have known how too - still don't as if I did I'd change it back! I'm 100% sure that wifi has always remained on in standby previously and there do seem to be others whose phones perform like this too (when they don't want them too!). All very odd
If this is standard Winmo default, it seems rather annoying as when the phone is is in standby, it activates gprs when checking for e-mails & thereafter gprs remains on, so when you wake phone from standby you have both wif & gprs running.....
the app/thread posted by harddisk_wp is the same one i've already referred you to. just install it and you're done!
comm manager will let you toggle wifi on/off as usual. the app above is actually NOT an app...it just runs on every boot up and changes the registry key that determines the behavior of wifi in standby. if wifi is off, it will remain off in standby. if you turned on wifi in comm manager, it will remain on in standby if the mentioned app is installed.
simple as that! no worries, hardly takes up any space on your device, and its a one-shot process on each boot up (it starts, does its job, and then quits) so it doesn't take up any run-time resources whatsoever. capish?