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What case comes with the K-JAM?

Can any of the early K-JAM owners confirm what kind of case is shipped in the box? Is it like the belt-clip horizontal case coming with the Jam, or is it different?
Thanks.

I just played with it at a phonestore.
It comes wit a belt like clip holder. Looked allright to me, nearly same as magician bigger :wink:

Yeah, way bigger. The K-Jam case is square (not with rounded edges), and way too much extra space at the top.
I'm looking to find that case that sweet Treo 650 case BTT snagged. Went to BestBuy and CompUSA today, nothing like it. Hey, BTT where'd you get that case (I know, a mall, but what store)?

The case isn't very pretty, but it's functional, and has a nice firm front/back to stop anything from smashing your screen. It also makes the device WAY too bulky.

My 2 cents...
Good Points:
1. Full width sewn in magnetic strip on flap makes it very easy to close (i.e not just a small magnetic catch)
2. Access to plug in headphones
3. Spring steel belt clip rather than belt loop, so it can be quickly removed from belt without unbuckling
4. Soft felt inside gives good screen protection
Bad Points:
1. Corners of device exposed, so would be damaged if case is dropped.
2. Case a good bit bigger than it needs to be.
3. Nylon material of case "puckers" a good deal in damp air. Very odd..!
4. Case is a bit too ridged, making it hard to extract the device.
Regards
Chris

Mmm, how do I completely delete a duplicate post??

See my blog relating to a new aftermarket case designed for the K-JAM.
www.beyondthetech.com/blogs/kjam

Here's a picture:
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http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=710

That case looks pretty terrible :\

If that picture is for the shipped case,it looks very pretty nice to me .

Wow, it is huge!!! Definitely too bulky (too thick), it will make you look like pregnant if you wear a pullover....!
A definite step back from the very useable case provided with the Jam.
We definitely need someone to come up with a very skinny case for the belt... Any company working on this?

dschur said:
Yeah, way bigger. The K-Jam case is square (not with rounded edges), and way too much extra space at the top.
I'm looking to find that case that sweet Treo 650 case BTT snagged. Went to BestBuy and CompUSA today, nothing like it. Hey, BTT where'd you get that case (I know, a mall, but what store)?
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I'm in New Jersey.
The mall I bought it from is called Menlo Park Mall in Edison, NJ.
The kiosk is in the middle of the mall and the manufacturer is called Bytech.
More information on the reply I posted on HowardForums:
http://howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=6008379&postcount=7

Piel Frama's case for the Wiz should be out next week according to the email I got from them last night. Look at their site towards 27-OCT or so and see if it is listed...

Excellent! I was really hoping Piel Frama would come out with a case. I love my hx4700 Piel Frama case!

To make the device easier to extract from the case it shipped with I found it convenient to utillize the end of the lanyard that shipped with my Motorola HS-810 headset. It detatches from the lanyard, leaving a piece of looped line with a plastic piece. looping it through the provided point on the lower left corner of the device. Doing this results in a handy place to grab hold of the device and extract it from the case.
Robert Harrold
Houston, TX

I think you view of the shipped case will depend on your origins ;-) The case probably is bigger and bulkier than it needs to be, but if like me you have been used to lugging round an xda 1, an xda 2 and then the xda 2s, you will probably be pleased how compact this is And of course its free!
I personally hope that EB Cases will produce a smalller version of the horizontal soft leather case with belt loop or clip, that they make for the xda. I used it for 3 years all three of my xda's and its still going strong. Not bad for $30.00 !

Tips for a cheap & cheerful carkit - and it works

I didn't want a transformers style carkit for my Kaiser so I bought a magnet off ebay for a PDA - the Krusell one for £4, it comes with a thin metal plate you attach to the back of your kaiser and the magnet you attach to your dash. Well, it takes a lot to impress me and I must say it looks the business, also means you can have the Kaiser where you want it and not cradled low down. By chance I had my Tomtom Go wired in the dash from the cig adaptor and it's the same fitting, so a bit of re-routing and I have a carkit for £4 and 10 minutes of my time....priceless.
I'll post some pics when it's light ok.

Thank you for sharing, also will you please post the eBay auction you bought it from?
thanks

dont forget the pics. I think that might be a simple way of using the phone in the car

Here's a similar item on ebay - item no 160199677279
Total price incl postage is £5.50 (it's a UK item) - the full description is KRUSELL QUICKMOUNTER MAGNET MAGNETIC PHONE HOLDER
Pics soon ok.

They also sell this at sfplanet here in the States. Bought all my Krussel stuff from them and they ship fast and are not too expensive. Think this is what he's talking about...
http://www.sfplanet.com/product/C21/C21__Krusell_Quick_Mounter_01101.html

Looks real good and for a great price even with Canada shipping 15.00 CAD beats all the rest, just got one thank you

Can someone find a pic or maybe even take a pic of what this looks like when it's attached to the phone? As I've said in a previous post, I'm pretty leery of gluing anything to my baby. Maybe when I get my Seidio kit I'll stick one on that.
It's gonna take some convincing though.

-haze- said:
Can someone find a pic or maybe even take a pic of what this looks like when it's attached to the phone? As I've said in a previous post, I'm pretty leery of gluing anything to my baby. Maybe when I get my Seidio kit I'll stick one on that.
It's gonna take some convincing though.
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I second that. The site doesn't show it on the phone, hmmmmm

maherb said:
Looks real good and for a great price even with Canada shipping 15.00 CAD beats all the rest, just got one thank you
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Yup that's the one - enjoy!

Just for info...
Be aware that the sliding keyboard uses a magnetic detector to operate and if you suffer strange turn-ons (take a cold shower! ) you made need to use S2U2 or Kaiser Tweaks to disable it.
Same goes for some cases that have magnetic catches, they can sometimes turn your phone on inside the case when inserting.

OK, as promised:-
Krusell magnet on dash:-
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Kaiser normal mode with charger plugged in:
Landscape mode if you must!
Cheers....Mark.

Nice pics man. Can you take a picture of the back of the phone with the Krussel Mount attached?
Thanks in advance,
-HAZE-

techceptional said:
Cheers....Mark.
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Nice. Any updates on this? any issues? I'm ready to order!
TIA,
John

-haze- said:
Nice pics man. Can you take a picture of the back of the phone with the Krussel Mount attached?
Thanks in advance,
-HAZE-
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I don't actually own one of these, so I cannot tell you for sure, but from everything I have read and understand, nothing actually attaches to the back of the phone. The powerful magnet attaches to your dash and then just holds your phone there through magnetic attraction to the battery through the plastic cover.

mZimm said:
I don't actually own one of these, so I cannot tell you for sure, but from everything I have read and understand, nothing actually attaches to the back of the phone. The powerful magnet attaches to your dash and then just holds your phone there through magnetic attraction to the battery through the plastic cover.
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As long as there are no issues with keyboard sensor (sliding sensor), I would be all over this. I like the clean look.
JB

prob is that you cannot tilt your phone in any way with this...
i gotta say it is a nice solution if you have a spot on your dash that is a good angle for your phone... i dont though so i have to get a mount with an actuating arm.

Haven't got a pic of the back sorry, with the krusell kit you get a very thin (1mm) plate which you apply to the back case of the Kaiser. This acts as the bond to the magnet. The instructions say you can place this plate inside your battery cover but their isn't enough clearance on the kaiser - it's hardly noticeable anyway.
I've been using mine now for 3 weeks and no problems, the magnet holds fantastic, the kaiser never falls off or moves when mounted. Best carkit I ever had.

Man, I'd love to see a picture of the back of the Kaiser with the plate on it.

joshuah82 said:
Man, I'd love to see a picture of the back of the Kaiser with the plate on it.
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Yes... preaty please

techceptional said:
Haven't got a pic of the back sorry, with the krusell kit you get a very thin (1mm) plate which you apply to the back case of the Kaiser. This acts as the bond to the magnet. The instructions say you can place this plate inside your battery cover but their isn't enough clearance on the kaiser - it's hardly noticeable anyway.
I've been using mine now for 3 weeks and no problems, the magnet holds fantastic, the kaiser never falls off or moves when mounted. Best carkit I ever had.
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This might ruin it for me, but I would have to see a picture. The price for the thing is very nice, but I don't really want to stick something onto my phone.

hard case for extended battery

lesson learnt last night, dont ride a bike in the dark while looking at the phone (checking route on gps) bike went one way, i went another and phone slid along pavement about 30ft. phone works ok but case badly scratched new case is on order.
ok, so what i need is a hard case, plastic or aluminium which will cover phone with extended (double thickness) battery. yes, i searched already.

Where did you get the case? I find it nowhere.
My battery cover was damaged, please share the link if you find it somewhere.

got one off ebay. some have htc logo, some dont. search for 'HOUSING COVER Kaiser'.
also try http://cnn.cn/shop/p4550-tytn-kaiser-c-277_447.html
edit: you only want battery cover? how about google 'kaiser battery cover', that might work ;-)

Check here -> www.seidio.com

is this the case?
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=CSR2YCG8925X-BK&Show=ExtInfo
it says its only for seido batteries and mine is an unbranded double thickness one.
standard battery is 5mm and mine is 11mm thick. also it doesnt look like it protects the screen, i only need to see the screen.
still looking.....

gazzacbr said:
is this the case?
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=CSR2YCG8925X-BK&Show=ExtInfo
it says its only for seido batteries and mine is an unbranded double thickness one.
standard battery is 5mm and mine is 11mm thick. also it doesnt look like it protects the screen, i only need to see the screen.
still looking.....
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Try this;
http://www.boxwave.com/products/armorcase/armor-case-htc-tytn-ii_2905.htm
I'm currently looking into adapting this case to mount to the bars or stem like a standard cycling computer, so I can use my TyTN2 as a do-it-all device for mountainbiking. I'll obviously need the extended battery to use it in this capacity (GPS navigation and datalogging, Bluetooth MP3, calls and text, etc) which this case can support, as well as being quite protective. I was thinking it could ride safely like this;
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gazzacbr said:
is this the case?
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=CSR2YCG8925X-BK&Show=ExtInfo
it says its only for seido batteries and mine is an unbranded double thickness one.
standard battery is 5mm and mine is 11mm thick. also it doesnt look like it protects the screen, i only need to see the screen.
still looking.....
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i have the seidio case, and it's actually "yes" and "no" in terms of battery compatability. the outer case will only fit over the replacement back included with the seido battery, or a back that isn't larger than the seidio back i guess. but any extended battery you can fit under the seido replacement back will do (i use both mugen and a sedio extended batteries under the back)
it doesn't have something to cover hte screen, but it does give more depth to the surrounding ridges, and maybe a screen protector can help with the rest...
the boxwave looked interesting, and i was about to go for it, but i notice that it has a bump only for the battery, which closes down at the caemra and speaker area. that means a different type of back is needed for that also.
at the moment, i am just using the seidio rubberized case over the seidio replacement back. when i travel, i've had a leatherworker modify a leather case (one of those that provides full access to the keyboard etc. but has a flap to cover the screen when not in use) for me to fit around the extended dimensions, but i guess this is not what you need.

@Barkleyfan: cheers, the boxwave one with screen cover looks to be just what i need.
have thought several times of mounting on bike like that, would be ok for road use, but then i remember how many times i have seen my bike bouncing down a hill on its own and me on the deck usually i keep the phone attached on a lanyard and in a padded case fixed on my backpack shoulder strap, but would feel better if it was also in aluminium case. i think mounted on the bars like that is just asking to get broken.

My riding is getting conservative these days, so I don't worry about wrecking hard enough to hurt it. I worry more about a splash from a creek or something.

@Barkleyfan "I was thinking it could ride safely like this" down the side of the snow covered mountain, and you call that conservative. i am not in your league, that would scare to **** out of me! or... is that not your bike

lol Nah, that's not my bike. That's Jill Homers bike. This is mine;

gazzacbr said:
lesson learnt last night, dont ride a bike in the dark while looking at the phone (checking route on gps) bike went one way, i went another and phone slid along pavement about 30ft. phone works ok but case badly scratched new case is on order.
ok, so what i need is a hard case, plastic or aluminium which will cover phone with extended (double thickness) battery. yes, i searched already.
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That would be diff to find as extended battery the shape is out. Im still considering if to buy the normal battery or the extended battery.. sigh

Fuze Bike Mount

Anyone know a good and cheap mount that fits the fuze well? Id like to use a bike computer/gps on it while riding.
Ive looked around on ebay and the web and cant find anything that looks like its sturdy or fits the phone well.
this is for the touch which may not work because its thinner then the fuze
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-HTC-Touch-D...trkparms=65:12|66:2|39:1|72:1240|293:1|294:50
thanks

It's your phone, but this sounds like a really bad idea to me. Rain or the splash from a puddle could be rather expensive, not to mention a crash. I'd just use a cycling computer if I were you.
I mountain bike, and I keep my fuze secure in the ipod pouch of my camelback.

Theres a ton of cases for other phones desigined for this reason that are waterproof and mounted to the bike...finding one that fits is the key. All the real cycle computers/GPS are all upwards of $300 - kinda stupid to spend that much when the phone can do all the same stuff.
plus im putting in on a road bike - nothing off road, the worst bumps i encounter are small curbs
Farmer Ted said:
It's your phone, but this sounds like a really bad idea to me. Rain or the splash from a puddle could be rather expensive, not to mention a crash. I'd just use a cycling computer if I were you.
I mountain bike, and I keep my fuze secure in the ipod pouch of my camelback.
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i second this. i do alot of cycling and would like to find a mount instead of having to have it in the phone pouch on my pack. i use gps cycle computer and would love to see my statistics in real time.

this thing looks perfect, just need to double check the dimensions.
http://www.gpscity.ca/ram-mount-large-aqua-box-1-zinc-coated-u-bolt-mount.html
Not sure if its worth spending close to $65 though
ocblazer949 said:
i second this. i do alot of cycling and would like to find a mount instead of having to have it in the phone pouch on my pack. i use gps cycle computer and would love to see my statistics in real time.
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I just bought this, closest waterproof box to the phones dimensions
http://www.gpscity.com/ram-mount-waterproof-aqua-box-3-atv-utv-strap-mount.html
Couldn't use the standard 1 inch u-bolt because my bikes handlebars are about 3inches, hopefully the strap is just as sturdy.
I also got this 1/2 inch foam pad, the box is an extra .38 inches deeper then the phone. I'll slice it to fit or the extra padding might be able to be compressed to make a real tight fit.
http://www.gpscity.com/ram-mount-aqua-box-3-foam-padding-0.5-inches-thick.html
Came to $60 after using a 10% off promotion code (RAMGUF5285) for ram mounts i found online - not too bad when most other waterproof cases are close to $100 with out the mount.
Ill post some pictures and the result once i install it and go for a test ride or two.

insanesy5tem said:
I just bought this, closest waterproof box to the phones dimensions
http://www.gpscity.com/ram-mount-waterproof-aqua-box-3-atv-utv-strap-mount.html
Couldn't use the standard 1 inch u-bolt because my bikes handlebars are about 3inches, hopefully the strap is just as sturdy.
I also got this 1/2 inch foam pad, the box is an extra .38 inches deeper then the phone. I'll slice it to fit or the extra padding might be able to be compressed to make a real tight fit.
http://www.gpscity.com/ram-mount-aqua-box-3-foam-padding-0.5-inches-thick.html
Came to $60 after using a 10% off promotion code (RAMGUF5285) for ram mounts i found online - not too bad when most other waterproof cases are close to $100 with out the mount.
Ill post some pictures and the result once i install it and go for a test ride or two.
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Perfect!! this is exactly what i needed. Its soild as a rock - the bracket and arm are all metal and the case is very strong plastic. It doesnt move or bounce at all when going over big bumps.
The best part about it is that the front of the case is soft clear plastic and the touch screen works through it.
Here are some pictures, hopefully this helps other people.
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What's the software you have on the fuze for tracking (on screen)?

Escorpione said:
What's the software you have on the fuze for tracking (on screen)?
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GPS Cycle Computer v3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424423
awesome app - uploads my routes and times to crossingways.com once im done tracking my ride.

RAM Mount
+1 on using the RAM mount to attach to handlebars (although I have mine mounted on my motorcycle!) but instead of the aquabox (which I also have to use in the rain) I usually have my phone in a ProClip USA mount. I have the charging version (since I have power available, obviously) but in literally 1000's of miles I've never had my treo, 6700, mogul or now my TP come out of the mount, even with some pretty huge pothole experiences...
Regarding the aquabox, it seems to get pretty hot in there, and I've actually thought about drilling a few small holes to allow some airflow. Has anyone done that?

I have one of these:
http://www.boxit.net/engine.php?cat=327
It's the best solution I could find. You can still operate the touchscreen (including scrolling etc) well when it is in the case.

how hard was to put a couple of magnets to the phone? get in and look at my idea...

So I was asking to myself.... how hard could have been? I also thought... is common sense the the phone needed some kind of mechanism to lock the phone when closed and opened, right?
Well, then after thinking I came to a conclusion that well we, users could get creative and do something about it, so I went into a quest looking for the smallest and thinness magnet I could find and I came across magnets that are only 1/32" thick.... now... I thought if I could find a way to cleanly attach them to the phone in places that I already have thought of ( will show tomorrow when I get to my computer ) and would be the least visible.
What do you guys think? Any ideas about attaching the magnets?

Juan I have been looking for magnets, and finding the ideal location....there was a thread a while back regarding tape on the inside between the ribbon and the "z" leg.....I like this idea, but my concern is over GPS use. I'm sure one ca calibrate the bearings, but not sure how it would affect GPS signal....
Please post pics and experiences...really interested in doing this myself, as TMO will no stand by the defective hinge...sorry "design feature"!

juanshop said:
So I was asking to myself.... how hard could have been? I also thought... is common sense the the phone needed some kind of mechanism to lock the phone when closed and opened, right?
Well, then after thinking I came to a conclusion that well we, users could get creative and do something about it, so I went into a quest looking for the smallest and thinness magnet I could find and I came across magnets that are only 1/32" thick.... now... I thought if I could find a way to cleanly attach them to the phone in places that I already have thought of ( will show tomorrow when I get to my computer ) and would be the least visible.
What do you guys think? Any ideas about attaching the magnets?
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I posted a pretty detailed post in the accessories forum. You might want to look at the "hinge fix" thread over there.

Magnets might interfere with the compass

Look into how the magnets might effect your signal a well.
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That's why I'm going to buy the magnets and do tests and see how much will interfere with the phone. So if anyone of you guys is interested, I will keep y'all posted.
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juanshop said:
That's why I'm going to buy the magnets and do tests and see how much will interfere with the phone. So if anyone of you guys is interested, I will keep y'all posted.
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I could swear I saw what looked like magnets on the display g2's at the tmobile stores I went to this week. They all looked like they had a small strip of magnets on each side by the hinge (on the under side of the screen and the body).
Maybe it was just a display model thing, but the phones were active demos.

this is exactly what i was thinking about doing but there seems to be to many problems with compass gps and possibly mememory loss if only there was a way to magetize the ones already in there

I personally think I see an easier way.
I'm going to try to attach a tiny piece of felt to the side of the Z hinge so it wedges a little more securely inside the recessed area on the top of the screen.
Open your keyboard, and you'll see where the hinge arms sit inside the recessed areas with small 1mm or so gaps on either side.
I think it'll work...

we need velcro
Keep us updated with your progress

I just picked up a package of (2) 5x8 inch magnetic sheets (self adhesive). The cost was under $2.
It is super thin (looking for my digital calipers, but I would guess 1/32 or thinner. Im going to give this a try and post some pics if it works well. If it works, this should be enough magnetic sheet to fix every G2 produced by HTC this year.
Well, I have found no ill effects of the magnetic material and it WORKS... I can now hold the phone upside down, sideways, backwards, etc. Of course if you shake it, it will open. But it will not open or close during natural use.
Took about 2 minutes to do, cost under $2 and I could do another 100 phones with the material I have.
Here are the pics:
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How the F do magnets work, anyway?

im worried about putting magnets near a hard drive or radio.
What about rubber bands of some sort, such that when screen is fully out they lock, but otherwise snap back?

carlsbad0331 said:
I just picked up a package of (2) 5x8 inch magnetic sheets (self adhesive). The cost was under $2.
It is super thin (looking for my digital calipers, but I would guess 1/32 or thinner. Im going to give this a try and post some pics if it works well. If it works, this should be enough magnetic sheet to fix every G2 produced by HTC this year.
Well, I have found no ill effects of the magnetic material and it WORKS... I can now hold the phone upside down, sideways, backwards, etc. Of course if you shake it, it will open. But it will not open or close during natural use.
Took about 2 minutes to do, cost under $2 and I could do another 100 phones with the material I have.
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exellent! exellent!!!! just what i had in mind! that was exactly my plan, now, here, the same can be applied here ( i dont see on the pics but did you applied for when the phone is open or closed? or both? if is only when the phone is closed, well look at my picture, is paint quality LOL but i think it can be understood, with the magnets aldeady on the back of the screen, a couple of other magnets can be placed on the red area of the picture, thats a perfect area because there's an indentation there, and a little piece there would not affect the keyboard at all.
pd: info on where you got that material would be awesome, thanks!
pd2: i will do my own too and try different things and test the phone for at least a couple of weeks and see whats happens, also i will let you guys know the end results, i have insurance on my phone so if something happens i can get a new one on the way
pd3: i read for the phone to be affected by magnetic fields, it has to be a really powerful magnet, just look at other phones with magnets in the market... they seem perfectly fine.

I only did this for when the phone is open. Ive never had the phone open from the closed position.
I picked up the package of magnetic sheet at Target. It was in the craft section in a purple plastic envelope. It is made by Horizon Group USA and the SKU number is 765940168059.

going there right now!

Just an FYI, all 3 of my old Sidekicks had magnets so they won't interfere with cell or GPS signal. I am unsure about the compass however. I was considering a similar idea as well only with a couple tiny round silver magnets on the bottom section tops corners and screen section middle sides.

Sorry for this off topic but, why is your phone so shiny? like a polished metalic grey. Looks actually very nice. Polished? full skin?

Most likely took picture using a flash so we could see the magnets
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And like always my local target doesn't have any gonna try Walmart.
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