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PC/Laptop to xda 2 viewing

Hi,
could an expert out there advise me if my theory is possible please?
Using Remote desktop/Terminal services : See whats on my PC/Laptop on the screen of my XDA2 - connected via cradle and usb(as usual). If so what do I put in the "Server" box of the XDA Terminal services prog and on the "Main" PC.. Do I have to make a Network first? Or ?
Thanks to all.
The site is great but much of it goes straight over my head at the moment..
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ummm ... your theory seems not that much difficult as you can implement it using Bluetooth networking I guess ..
you can setup bluetooth networking from Pocket PC to Laptop then you can browse what your home PC conatin from your PDA
give it a try
I hope this is what U was talking about , if not please give us more clarifications
Cheers

It is better and faster to use Wifi if you're going to use terminal services.
Been using this method since last year.

Thanks but I do not have wifi or bluetooth...
There is a ref to doing it on MS site via the cradle and usb but then it shoots off in the over the web stuff...
I have tried just now but nothing connects.... But I notice that when I check my desktop (xp) pc under the rempte tab - I only have Remote Assistance.... Could this be it? Perhaps I do not have Remote Desktop installed then ! Eh? I will try to locate my original xp discs and see if I can install !!??
Ta.

Remote desktop or Terminal services connect only via IP address.
So you can only connect via TCP/IP using WIFI on your XDA.
Bluetooth 1.1 has no IP address setting so it is not possible also.
I tried all methods since last year and WIFI is the only solution or if your XDA has a backpack you can use a CF type NIC for wired connection via crosslink or hub.
Still Wifi is the cheapest and cleanest alternative. You can use Adhoc settings between your PC if you have no WIFI access point.

How do i connect to my ameo via remote desktop ?

Hi is it possible to connect to my ameo via remote desktop ?
if possible whats the best software to use
thanks

cryptkiller said:
Hi is it possible to connect to my ameo via remote desktop ?
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No. You can only use the Ameo as a Remote Desktop CLIENT.

you cannot use remote desktop to connect a pc remotely to your pocket pc as previously stated. Just out of interest though - what would you be trying to achieve by connecting a pc - which has greater resources at its disposal - to a pocket pc? Surely you can just take the pocket pc with you to the pc and plug it in.... If you have other reasons for wanting to connect remotely then if you provide more information there may be a workaround.

just to operate the phone within windows
just woundered if poss

cryptkiller said:
just to operate the phone within windows
just woundered if poss
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try this
http://www.mymobiler.com/
It's a wired connection utilizing Activesync. Not perfect, but it does what you wanted, and it's free.

Share Pocket pc's internet to computer

How can i share my pocket pc's wifi internet to a computer via cable ?
10x in advance

hello. at first sorry for my english.
i think You can use Internet sharing,that located is in programs.
After succesfull wifi conection look in internet sharing via usb cable.
maybe that do something. good luck

freeyourmind said:
hello. at first sorry for my english.
i think You can use Internet sharing,that located is in programs.
After succesfull wifi conection look in internet sharing via usb cable.
maybe that do something. good luck
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Hi thanks for the tip. But I forgot to mention that my friend wants to do that and he has WM2003. And there's no Internet Sharing
Thanks anyway

EmZvr said:
Hi thanks for the tip. But I forgot to mention that my friend wants to do that and he has WM2003. And there's no Internet Sharing
Thanks anyway
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the wm2003 can use Bluetooth modem or usb cable while the BA in it's cradle
either will work
that or flash it to one of the wm6 roms and use WifiRouter ( that's what i do much easier to use then extra drivers and settings on teh PC )

cyberjak said:
the wm2003 can use Bluetooth modem or usb cable while the BA in it's cradle
either will work
that or flash it to one of the wm6 roms and use WifiRouter ( that's what i do much easier to use then extra drivers and settings on teh PC )
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My friend has HP RX3115 and there;s no WM6 for his pocket. So he can't use WiFiRouter :/ Any other apps ?

Pocket wifi connection to usb
Hi while looking for the same answer you did some time agoo i found a usefull link
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2008/04...-controlling-internet-connection-sharing.html

How if i used G1
Hi there,
had a same problems but this time i used G1 instead of winmob operating system... anyone could help me how to do it on my G1, ... had to access root first ? or had to used software ? the software name ?
thanks
rick

with a question about the g1, you are pretty wrong in the blueangel section, you should ask somewhere else

Some questions about the Shift

Hi all, i'm new to the shift scene and have a couple of questions:
1. I gather that the WM part of the device is an emulator running on Vista. Is there anyway to turn Vista off so its just WM that is running. (I guess not as the Shift has no WM capable hardware.)
2. Is there anyway to send SMS from the WM side? Can you send SMS from the Vista side?
3. Has anyone got TF3D running on it?
4. Comming from the Xperia X1 forum, there are loads of ROMs for the X1. Are there any WM6.1 ROMs out there for the Shift?.
5. Can you use a bluetooth headset with this device
6. How much does XP speed up the device? How much does Win7 slow down the device? Can you have XP or Win7 running WM?
7. Can you run TomTom on the WM side?
Many Thanks

vinokirk said:
1. I gather that the WM part of the device is an emulator running on Vista. Is there anyway to turn Vista off so its just WM that is running. (I guess not as the Shift has no WM capable hardware.)
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1. You couldn't be more wrong. The WM side is actually a real smartphone built in to the shift mother board with it's own processor and all. WM is always on as long as there is power.
vinokirk said:
2. Is there anyway to send SMS from the WM side? Can you send SMS from the Vista side?
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2. Yes it can even do that out of the box with no hacking.
vinokirk said:
3. Has anyone got TF3D running on it?
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3. TF3D is to demanding on the WM hardware built in to the shift so a no can do there. You will have to be happy with point ui at best.
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4. Comming from the Xperia X1 forum, there are loads of ROMs for the X1. Are there any WM6.1 ROMs out there for the Shift?.
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4. Yup just browse the forum.
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5. Can you use a bluetooth headset with this device
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5. No, since bt is attached to the computer part and not the phone there is no bt on wm. You cannot use wired head set even. Actually the only way to make calls is using speaker phone. You have to remember it's a computer with wm, not a phone with vista.
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6. How much does XP speed up the device? How much does Win7 slow down the device? Can you have XP or Win7 running WM?
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6. Errh, The q is how well does xp work and how much better will it work with W7 then vista, remember W7 is lighter then Visa and works better on portables then Xp.
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7. Can you run TomTom on the WM side?
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7. Possible in theory impossible practically, we do not have the space avalible on the WM for maps. We cannot use SD since it's attched to the computer not the phone. It is possible to use the computer hdd but it requieres the computer part to be running and that will drain the battery.
The shift is NOT a phone, it's a special device in its own category. One should us it as a additional device not as a phone replacement.

use google maps
you can use google maps instead of tomtom.

Gmaps is another type of app. I's map app, tomtom is a navigator.
Yes you can browse maps on the shift, but no navigation.

Josasp, many thanks for your answers!
Just comming back to a couple of your answers...
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1. You couldn't be more wrong. The WM side is actually a real smartphone built in to the shift mother board with it's own processor and all. WM is always on as long as there is power.
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Im sure I saw in a video a guy was saying how the WM part is an emulation on windows. So you can have the Win XP part totally off and just have the phone on?
Josasp said:
2. Is there anyway to send SMS from the WM side? Can you send SMS from the Vista side?
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Can you make it clear that you mean you can send sms from the Vista side?
Josasp said:
7. Possible in theory impossible practically, we do not have the space avalible on the WM for maps. We cannot use SD since it's attched to the computer not the phone. It is possible to use the computer hdd but it requieres the computer part to be running and that will drain the battery.
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How much space is there on the WM side. You say we can use the WinXP hdd, so does that mean that the WM side can access the WinXP HDD? I would like to use TT navigator in my car, so there would be no probs with power. So people on here have got the GPS unit working then?
Last question, is it 3G? I will have a look myself now for this answer tho, I only just thought of it
ANSWER: Yes it does support 3G
This really is an intriguing device! If only you could make proper calls on it without it being on speakerphone!

Ofc you can SMS you have full wm fuctionality, the speakerphone issue is just that the shift is missing a earpice and access to headset, so it leaves the speakerphone the only option.
I'ts not only 3G it is also HSDPA wich is fater then regular 3G, but notice that there is a CDMA version avalible to that is NOT 3G.
Well the WM part is linked to the computer(vista) in two ways, the first is some sort of internal usb connection that we can turn on and off using "usb tool".
The other way is that the WM and Vista is linked i an internal local network (LAN) that allows vista to connect to the internet using WM as a router an modem, much like a regular home lan.
The fact that they are linked via lan allows for us to use shared folders between the devices in the device, i't works in the same way you share folders over a home network.
Using this shared folders feature we can use the Vista hdd but ONLY when the computer part is on. So there is no direct connection betweed the vista hdd and WM only the virtual share.
I't works but it drains battery and it's slightly buggy, it's not really a great solution.
What would be way better in your case is sharing the GPS module over the internal usb to vista. That is a lot less data and is way more stable.
There is some good navigation software for regular computers too, garmin has a software similar to thier WM software.
A solotion like that looks a lot more stable if you ask me.

Couple more questions:
1)So the GPS module is 'natively' attached to the WM side but you can access it from the WinXP side?
2)Can you confirm if you can send texts from the WinXP side, what program do you use to do it?
3)Can you confirm if you can have the WinXP side totally off and just run the WM side?
4)There are some people on ebay sellling wired headsets for the shift, but you say they dont work...i dont understand! are these seller lying???
5)When the screen is flipped up and your on the WM side, does it go into landspace view?
6)Can you use the hardware keyboard on the WM side?
7)Can you use the trackpad on the WM side?

1. Yes with custom rom like almost everything.
2. Text is sent from WM side perfectly no need for sending from visa/xp/whatever.
3. Well WM is always on as long as the battery is in, vista/xp you turn on/off with a switch.
4. They work only on the pc/vista/xp side for msn/skype/other not in the WM side.
5. The WM side is always in landcape, it is possible to rotate manually in the WM side if you want portrait but no auto switching.
6. Yes, it works very well.
7. Nope it's connected to the PC.
You have to think of the shift as two devices regardless of the fact that they do not appear so. Think of the shift as a laptop connected to phone with usb and lan. When you press the snapvue button the keyboard and the screen will switch between these devices, so it appears that they are the same device.
What does this mean?
Well it means that some things we will never get since they are only connected to pc, like true hdd access or touchpad access.
Some thing we however manage to get working in one of two ways, the first is by using some secret way that htc built in the device but decided not no use like the phone, the other way is by using some sort of software for wm or the pc to send stuff over the lan or usb between the wm and the pc, like sharing GPS or the hdd.
But using some software share requieres both sides to be on and that will drain battery, and attery is the main reason we want to use the wm side instead of the pc. If the pc would last as long as the wm we would not use the wm at all. So having the pc on in order to do some stuff in the wm sort of defeats the purpose of using the wm.

The mouse pad is for the PC side, but if you have the PC side running and connected to the WM side via the program USBTool, then it is possible to control WM with the mouse pad/mouse with a program that has been mentioned in these forums before. I have forgotten its name

Ahh nice one Flanimal
What about the reception on the Shift. Comming from the x1 which has notoriously bad reception!

Ahh nice one Flanimal
What about the reception on the Shift. Comming from the x1 which has notoriously bad reception!

Flanimal said:
The mouse pad is for the PC side, but if you have the PC side running and connected to the WM side via the program USBTool, then it is possible to control WM with the mouse pad/mouse with a program that has been mentioned in these forums before. I have forgotten its name
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I have remembered the name of this application that allows you to use the mouse and mouse pad in WM whilstVista/XP side is on. It's called trueconnect. It works very well.

Best tethering solution till root is achieved?

Tethering is the thing I miss most - and the reason I still carry my g1 with my laptop.
I have heard that htc sync offers connection shareing - but I use linux.
What does everyone else use? Hopefully there is one of you out there with a good linux solution
- faylix / local
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I was using Proxoid with my BH2 with Ubuntu. It wasn't fun to set up, but it worked well.
On this note, anyone get Bluetooth DUN working on win7 via PDAnet?

faylix said:
What does everyone else use? Hopefully there is one of you out there with a good linux solution
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I don't know if there's a solution for linux, but I had been using PdaNet with my G1 before I got the slide. I assume that it would still work. You should check it out in the market.

chadmd23 said:
I was using Proxoid with my BH2 with Ubuntu. It wasn't fun to set up, but it worked well.
On this note, anyone get Bluetooth DUN working on win7 via PDAnet?
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same question here. i'm probably just confused with the setup tho =[

does the help
Straight from junefabrics the ppl that made pdanet
Bluetooth DUN does not require installing anything on the computer end. So it supports all operating systems. You can install the phone piece directly from Android market.
After enabling Bluetooth DUN in PdaNet, you need to pair your computer with the phone. Use the Bluetooth configuration software on the computer end to look for the Android pone and pair with its "Dial-up networking" service. After that your bluetooth software should create a new dialup network connection over the Bluetooth modem. Use "123" as the phone number and blank username/password.
Again make sure you connect using the Bluetooth software that comes with your computer. Do not use the PdaNet Desktop client which is only for USB connection.
Since different systems come with different Bluetooth configuration software, you can simply Google "Bluetooth Dun setup instructions on YOUR_COMPUTER_OS_NAME" if you need more help.
also it says on there that only dun works on linux but u will have to to website for that

easy tether??
Has anyone tried to use easy tether? it automatically sets up tether through usb not sure if it works haven't tested it.

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Straight from junefabrics the ppl that made pdanet
Bluetooth DUN does not require installing anything on the computer end. So it supports all operating systems. You can install the phone piece directly from Android market.
After enabling Bluetooth DUN in PdaNet, you need to pair your computer with the phone. Use the Bluetooth configuration software on the computer end to look for the Android pone and pair with its "Dial-up networking" service. After that your bluetooth software should create a new dialup network connection over the Bluetooth modem. Use "123" as the phone number and blank username/password.
Again make sure you connect using the Bluetooth software that comes with your computer. Do not use the PdaNet Desktop client which is only for USB connection.
Since different systems come with different Bluetooth configuration software, you can simply Google "Bluetooth Dun setup instructions on YOUR_COMPUTER_OS_NAME" if you need more help.
also it says on there that only dun works on linux but u will have to to website for that
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Saw this, but didn't work. Plus i think 123 is for Sprint, TMO is *99#, I think.

I have used both easytether and PDANet free version. They both work about the same. you install one app on the phone and hook up via usb to the computer and the computer downloads the drivers needed. very fast and easy setup and besides installing an app and plugging in usb cable you don't have to do anything. It worked great for me but it does require you connect via usb so would not be wireless by any means. I was connecting to a windows 7 computer.

figured out the bluetooth dun w/ pdanet.
if you've already tethered via usb, you should have 'PdaNet Modem' in your network connections.
right-click into its properties.
under the General tab & Connect using: , you should see the option 'Standard Modem over Bluetooth link #_'. make sure it is checked.
and the phone number is 123. username/password left blank.
apply all changes.
open pdanet on phone.
enable bluetooth dun.
it should pair the two.
connect to PdaNet Modem on computer

root has been achieved, may as well just root now

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root has been achieved, may as well just root now
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See my next thread =)