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After purchasing a brand new US Robotics Wireless MAXg ADSL2+ Gateway I spent some time trying to connect WiFi my SPV3000 with Qtek ROM 1.6.7.1 WWE.
After several attempts, I could see the network but couldn't connect, network turned unavailable.
I installed the optimiser (I like its performance improvement and caps activation indicator too!) but it was not enough.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38898&highlight=wizard+wifi+g
Finally, in my default settings in USRobotics browser: Wireless/Advanced Settings simply had to change the Channel to Auto (default was 11) and I could easely connect and fast browse!
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Thanks to the optimiser I can use G.
If you don't install the optimiser you must set in USRobotics browser: Wireless/Advanced Settings/54gMode to 802.11b Only (default is 54g Auto).
Maybe obvious to many, but not to a newbie like me.
Have fun.
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And thanks to everybody, without this forum i would have been completely lost!
Anyone know if the Trinity can seamlessly switch between WLAN and GPRS depending on network availability? I know the Imate PDA2K can - see http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=3460
snorkel69 said:
Anyone know if the Trinity can seamlessly switch between WLAN and GPRS depending on network availability? I know the Imate PDA2K can - see http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=3460
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Yeah, it works, but it really depends on how you have your device setup and the ROM that you are running as to how the switch over behaves.
Up until the Radio ROM V1.38, I'd say this worked well, but with the new HTC, and custom ROM's with 1.38 and 1.41 Radio, it is a bit of a pain.
As is the norm with WM5, GPRS is on all the time, and in the absence of an Activesync or WLAN connection, will happily use GPRS. Turning on WLAN should make the data flow via that, but I now find that while GPRS is on, often nothing happens at all when I turn on the WiFi, as if both connections are deferring to each other. It often needs me to disconnect the GPRS connection before WiFi cuts in.
Turning WiFI off again seems to be OK- the GPRS connection re-establishes as needed.
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Up until the Radio ROM V1.38, I'd say this worked well, but with the new HTC, and custom ROM's with 1.38 and 1.41 Radio, it is a bit of a pain.
As is the norm with WM5, GPRS is on all the time, and in the absence of an Active-sync or WLAN connection, will happily use GPRS. Turning on WLAN should make the data flow via that, but I now find that while GPRS is on, often nothing happens at all when I turn on the WiFi, as if both connections are deferring to each other. It often needs me to disconnect the GPRS connection before WiFi cuts in.
Turning WiFI off again seems to be OK- the GPRS connection re-establishes as needed.
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The WLan problem is the reason that I haven't yet tried the new cooked roms. I'm still using the Dopod Test ROM along with the new 1.41 radio. My Trinity runs very well and everything works. GPRS is on...I can connect to Wifi, that works, connect to laptop via activesync, that works, disconnect activesync, then wifi works, disconnect Wifi, then GPRS works. I have also never had a problem with TomTom hanging, and most importantly my 4gb TopRam miniSD works flawlessly. Of course after all of the blah blah about memory cards, I'm wondering how long it will work...we'll see. I'm using the perfomance tweaks, the ATIfix and the bass fix.
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My Trinity runs very well and everything works. GPRS is on...I can connect to Wifi, that works, connect to laptop via activesync, that works, disconnect activesync, then wifi works, disconnect Wifi, then GPRS works.
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Same thing here with the latest original HTC FRA ROM.
Same also with my Qtek9100.
The only thing I could not manage yet in the Trinity is to set up an automatic shutdown (disconnect) of the GPRS/UMTS data connection after a given time of no use to save the battery life.
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The WLan problem is the reason that I haven't yet tried the new cooked roms. .
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Thats interesting!
I still had the same problem as mentioned above with the latest official HTC ROM. I had thought it was the Radio version, but as yours is OK, perhaps it is a hardware issue local to my device? My release Orange ROM worked fine though (but I had to get rid of teh horrid Orange stuff, some of which is in the ROM itself rather than the Ext_ROM)
Cyrus Kourosh said:
Same thing here with the latest original HTC FRA ROM.
Same also with my Qtek9100.
The only thing I could not manage yet in the Trinity is to set up an automatic shutdown (disconnect) of the GPRS/UMTS data connection after a given time of no use to save the battery life.
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I use this little app to turn off my connection and change between radio modes. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286844&highlight=bandswitch
NeilM said:
Thats interesting!
I still had the same problem as mentioned above with the latest official HTC ROM. I had thought it was the Radio version, but as yours is OK, perhaps it is a hardware issue local to my device? My release Orange ROM worked fine though (but I had to get rid of teh horrid Orange stuff, some of which is in the ROM itself rather than the Ext_ROM)
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I don't think it is a hardware problem. The thing is, I'm not usning an official HTC rom, it is a Dopod test rom that came out even before the first official Dopod GPS rom. I use it because since everything works, there was no reason to go looking for trouble . I've updated the radio to 1.41 and applied the performance tweaks, the atifix and bass fix. I remember at the time that the official Dopod and HTC rom came out that several people went back to the test rom because of stability, radio, and miniSD card issues. That being said I can't wait to try the new WM6 Trinity rom!
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I use this little app to turn off my connection and change between radio modes. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286844&highlight=bandswitch
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Very nice application...
Band switch + time limit to come back to gprs.
I did not read the whole topic yet... I will try the soft today.
Thanks a lot Matterhorn
Edit: Installed and tested. Really great and helpfull tool.
Ever thought that you could watch downloaded Video on your BA from your PC, streamed over WiFi, well now you can.
Before you start you will need a PDA with a good media player, Wireless network (WiFi), connection between your PDA and a PC, and the ability to set up a network share. The instructions below are for a Blueangel device but I am sure a smart person could adapt them for any other WM6 device.
Using Windows Mobile 6 I have Xplode’s (which includes lots of other guys work) version running at the moment on my Blueangel device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342142 This port of WM6 runs extremely fast on a XDA I have had for years.
I use CorePlayer http://coreplayer.com/ which seems to be the best media player going around, it plays 512x384 (AVI, DIVX) files at 29.97fps off the SD card flawlessly so the ovious next step is to stream them over WiFi. The resolution and format of video I mention is the type of format you will download most quality video off the internet. (Yes I know that my device only has a 320x240 screen, but the point is to play most downloaded video without having to convert it in any way, while within WiFi range!)
I have installed the network sharing capabilities found in cabs.rar, NetPlug.cab http://www.bigmike.it/download/cabs.rar By LGSilva
I then created a share on my home PC, (actually it already existed for my mediagate) and placed the video files downloaded into that sub directory. They are just the straight AVI files downloaded using Azureus http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ , you can use any torrent download program I am sure most of you have one by now.
I then mapped the network drive on my Blueangel to the share on the home PC, this was very easy to do, from the Settings-Connections-Network Plugin.
The rest is childs play, start CorePlayer, Open a file by browsing through Network (as opposed to My Device, or Storage Card).
Here is where my questions start, can people who have some knowledge please reply back with how well this works for them. For me video playback is about 95% Great, it video plays for about a minute then pauses for a few seconds then keeps playing. Obviously I am searching for the holy grail of 100% with pauses or dropped frames, and Super high quality. I suspect the limiting factor is the WiFi network, If I could just find a way to speed it up by 10% it would be perfect. I don’t use any encryption, and I have found that with some video and if I hold my hand still I can play video with no pause (tested over about 15minutes).
Thanks Justin. Oh and PS. If you do use this and it works please donate to Xplode below so we can keep future development of the BA WM6 going, he becoming a rare bread.
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webs...ency_code=EUR&bn=PP-DonationsBF&charset=UTF-8
Free888 said:
Ever thought that you could watch downloaded Video on your BA from your PC, streamed over WiFi, well now you can.
Thanks Justin. Oh and PS. If you do use this and it works please donate to Xplode below so we can keep future development of the BA WM6 going, he becoming a rare bread.
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webs...ency_code=EUR&bn=PP-DonationsBF&charset=UTF-8
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What I would like to know is how you manage to start and keep WiFi running on your BA. I have asked numerous times on these boards and no one seems to know what the secret is.
I think it was xplode himself who said that the unit was buggy. Which is a pity as for people over 50, the screen seems to be an ideal size to actually look at and press buttons on.
Personally I havent even been able to load his ROM but when I have had other ROMs working, the WiFi connection was NBG. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't and even when it does, it sometimes reports that it isn't running! Even worse, there seems to be no way of scanning for available networks and then choosing the one you want. You seem to have to hope that it decides to connect to yours as opposed to some other.
As for donations, I wouldn't mind donating if people responded to messages and the unit could be got working properly. I would particularly like to try VoIP on this 400 MHz unit to see if it is any better than my 190 MHz Wizard
If you are having problems with Wifi, installing Xplodes ROM, or getting replies to your posts then I would suggest doing a bit more research and searching.
I personally have had a good experience with WiFi on my BA when using 2003SE, Helmi's ROM, and now Xplode's. (lets not focus on the little issue about having to turn it on twice, or soft re-set if that's too hard).
Too set up WiFi do the following Settings-Connections-Network Cards-[Add New...] type in your SID name (the name of your own wireless LAN, if you don't know this then you can't connect) [Next] Choose your Authentication type and Data Encryption type. These settings MUST match your WiFi set up. (Auth-Open and Encrypt-Disabled is a good start but I would not recommend leaving it like that unless you have other forms of security) Hit [Next] then Finish and your done. All you need to do now is turn it on (twice).
Too turn on
Settings-Connections-Comm Manager-[hit the wifi button]
then Settings-Connections-Wireless LAN (Turn on Wireless LAN)
If there are some people out there who have had positive experiences with WiFi under WM6 then please post and let us know, especially if you have tried the video streaming challenge.
I am still trying to work out how to improve the speed by a few percent.
Why make all this effort? Go to http://www.orb.com and sign up. It's free. Then you can stream anything (audio, video, photos, etc) from your desktop to your windows mobile device no matter where you are (on the LAN or outside the house from the internet) No messing around necessary.
MJB
Fair question mbial,
There is lots of ways to do this, The obvious one I was expecting to hear was "Why not compress the files" and yes when I do that it works perfectly. It would probably work well using the software you recommend if I compressed the files too, as that would suffer the same bandwidth limitations as my WiFi if not worse. (However I would be concerned with opening up access to all my media to the internet, even if it was fairly secure).
Unfortunately I can't access the site you mentioned as my work has blocked it, so I can't comment on that further.
My Goal was to open up all of the Video content that is currently on my PC hard disk, to be able to be played on my BA. I currently watch this on the PC, or on my LCD TV via a media gate http://www.mediagateusa.com/ I just thought it would be cool to be able to do when the kids and wife are using the TV's I can still watch Video on my BA.
The answer may not even be faster WiFi, it may be new hardware WiFi router, different WiFi configuraton, different Media Player, or settings, maybe its not possible I just wanted to see if anyone else had tried this. It is soooo close to working perfectly its frustrating.
Free888 -
Trust me and check out orb...it transcodes the media on the fly to the appropriate resolution for your device so there's no need to ever compress anything. It performs better, utilizes less bandwidth, and is completely secure. (Not like I work for them, its simply a great free tool.)
MJB
Cool, I will give it a go at home over the weekend and let you know how I went.
Thanks.
mbial said:
Why make all this effort? Go to http://www.orb.com and sign up. It's free. Then you can stream anything (audio, video, photos, etc) from your desktop to your windows mobile device no matter where you are (on the LAN or outside the house from the internet) No messing around necessary.
MJB
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I like fre88 idea, its safe and free, I know what I am doing and not depending on any other network / application.
mbial said:
Free888 -
Trust me and check out orb...it transcodes the media on the fly to the appropriate resolution for your device so there's no need to ever compress anything. It performs better, utilizes less bandwidth, and is completely secure. (Not like I work for them, its simply a great free tool.)
MJB
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i agree..i use it for a view years and it's great
www.orb.com
greating stef
Completely baffled by what is going on but it seems to be working!
Free888 said:
Too set up WiFi do the following Settings-Connections-Network Cards-[Add New...] type in your SID name (the name of your own wireless LAN, if you don't know this then you can't connect) [Next] Choose your Authentication type and Data Encryption type. These settings MUST match your WiFi set up. (Auth-Open and Encrypt-Disabled is a good start but I would not recommend leaving it like that unless you have other forms of security) Hit [Next] then Finish and your done. All you need to do now is turn it on (twice).
Too turn on
Settings-Connections-Comm Manager-[hit the wifi button]
then Settings-Connections-Wireless LAN (Turn on Wireless LAN)
If there are some people out there who have had positive experiences with WiFi under WM6 then please post and let us know, especially if you have tried the video streaming challenge.
I am still trying to work out how to improve the speed by a few percent.
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No, I had never tried these tricks! What I had done was to try to turn on WiFi in Comm Mgr and seen it not turn on. But as soon as I tried your method of turning it on in Settings Connections Wireless LAN, it turned on immediately (using the 5.60.00WWE ROM)
Then I installed an SJPhone VoIP software and hey presto, it seems to work immediately. Trouble routing the sound through the normal ports but I am sure I can work them out. Meanwhile I am trying to use my Wizard headset and trying to work out the delay and echos. As far as both our problems are concerned, cant you increase the speed of this BA by installing Battery Status software and increasing the clock speed? Everyone increases the speed on the Wizard from 190 MHz to somewhere around 225-240 MHz so perhaps if we did this the echos would disappear and the sound would be a bit louder?
This really does seem to be a much more advanced unit than the Wizard: Why are they not more in use? It is larger but thinner than more 'modern' versions
Free888 said:
If you are having problems with Wifi, installing Xplodes ROM, or getting replies to your posts then I would suggest doing a bit more research and searching.
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This statement goes with all issues and will never change. It is the same all over the place. Fortunately it only appears to be extremely abused as we see the negative more than the positive.
I personally have had a good experience with WiFi on my BA when using 2003SE, Helmi's ROM, and now Xplode's. (lets not focus on the little issue about having to turn it on twice, or soft re-set if that's too hard).
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I am not sure why, but with the 1938 build from PDAViet my wireless works better than ever, since the upgrade from 2003SE. It turns on with one click and even reconnects with no clicks after a soft boot. The only bug left is that if you let the BA turn off it cannot reconnect after you power it back on. You have to turn off wifi and then turn it back on. 2 clicks. I can live with this flaw.
Too set up WiFi do the following Settings-Connections-Network Cards-[Add New...] type in your SID name (the name of your own wireless LAN, if you don't know this then you can't connect)
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This couldn't be more opposite of my experiences if you used a mirror. I have NEVER entered my SSID into the BA, and it always finds my access point, and any others in the area I happen to be in at the time. It asks me if I want to connect and if required asks for a key. It literally works flawlessly in this regard.
[Next] Choose your Authentication type and Data Encryption type. These settings MUST match your WiFi set up. (Auth-Open and Encrypt-Disabled is a good start but I would not recommend leaving it like that unless you have other forms of security) Hit [Next] then Finish and your done. All you need to do now is turn it on (twice).
Too turn on
Settings-Connections-Comm Manager-[hit the wifi button]
then Settings-Connections-Wireless LAN (Turn on Wireless LAN)
If there are some people out there who have had positive experiences with WiFi under WM6 then please post and let us know, especially if you have tried the video streaming challenge.
I am still trying to work out how to improve the speed by a few percent.
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As for wifi speed improvements, the only thing I have found that may help is adjusting the power mode to best performance.
Anyone know what happened to the Wireless strength meter ???
I've just noticed that the wireless strength meter isn't working in Xplode's 6.00.0000 build ( not that I can say it was worked when I first installed it ). Anyone know what's up with that ? Is there a fix out there ?
My wireless signal strength meter definitely worked when I first installed Xplodes ROM, but after a couple of days it stoped working and has not returned.
Sorry for raising this thread again.
I am trying to use my Nokia N95 with WM6 on BA. So far I was not able to make it work. It seems that WM6 BA even does not connect to phone over Bluetooth when I want to use N95 as modem.
Recently I found out that N95 works with WM5(!) as external Bluetooth modem. It required some minor tweaking to make modem initialize correctly. However, now it works and the speed is quite awesome because N95 is running 3G (even HSDPA in my case) and BT offers somewhat higher bandwith than plaing GPRS.
So far, N95 and BA:
1. WM2003 1.42 (Broadcomm BT) - does not work
2. WM6 by xplode (latest) - does not work
3. WM5 by Hemli (Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU3.5_v1.4.CF2.R2) - WORKED!
Now I have a question. What is so different between WM6 and WM5 that externall Bluetooth modems do not work in WM6?
Tested with different versions of WM 6.1 from PDAViet and it does not work.
It seems like something in general was broken between WM5 and WM6 ROM ports in a sense of DialUp functionality.
For example, the "Avdanced" dialog in modem connection setup is different. In WM5 it offered various modem settings (Extra initialization strings, Wait for dialtone, etc). In WM6 it only offers TCP/IP settings that are more relevant to network cards that to modemds/dialup.
I have no idea what is the meaning of setting up TCP/IP credentials on dialup modem, as all of them are aquired from PDP/PPP server anyway.
Does anyone have a clue whether or not it is possible to combine WM5 modem functionality with WM6(1) by e.g. copying some related components from WM5 to WM6?
Hello,
I've been searching the whole forum, but I cannot believe nobody is having the same problem (or idea) as I have:
BA is still great, but nowadays it's lack of 3G internet speed capability (no HSDPA or HSUPA, only gprs.. is becoming more and more quite a problem...
So I thought, wait, I'll connect my BA via bluetooth to another cell phone with 3G, HSDPA, etc. capabilities and basically connect to the internet through that phone, and have high speed internet!
However, I can't figure it out.
First I tried through DUN, but it turns out MS removed DUN from wm 6.1, and from what I can see, Internet sharing is not intended for this task. Or is it?
Can we have high speed internet on BA?
Thanks,
pooksee1802
I couldn't get it to work - but I have just got a 3G USB dongle which I hope will (with a connector cable) provide the old BA with 3G access..
I'm hoping I can configure the BA as if it were going through the USB activesync to the PC and so to the internet.
Anyone tried this yet??
hmm,
judging by the thread's view count it seems the issue is interesting, but unfortunately no answers...
c'mon guys, nobody interested in having high speed internet access on our BA's?
thank you!
in theory the scheme is simple but useless
you need laptop, 3g dongle connected to it and then BA connected to the laptop via cable (bluetooth is slow)and activesync, this is the only working way. This scheme is useless because if you carry the laptop why will do you need the BA?
there is no usb host on the BA so you can not connect the 3g usb dongle to it in any way, thats why you need the laptop
I am using BA with phone as Bluetooth modem towards HSPA network.
Actually, the initial purpose was to share one SIM card between phone and BA, which is more or less permanently installed in my car.
So far, the experience is good. I have 2Mbit HSDPA connection from Nokia E71 to my operator. Bluetooth link has a theoretical maximum speed of 1Mbit/s. In reality this is even slower, but way higher than you can get from EDGE Class 10.
The only problem is that THERE IS NO ROMs released lately, which support Bluetooth dialup. That's it.
ROMs I could get to work with phone as Bluetooth modem are WM5 ROMS and WM6 - "BA ROM CE OS 5.2.19199 (Build 19199.1.0.0 PV DVH) 16MB PP (04)" (using it now).
All later builds do not even try to connect to BT DUN on phone and immediately show "Unable to dial *99#" prompt. No idea what they did to cripple BT DUN in WM 6.1 on BA.
the old dialup was dumped in all later ba rom builds but if it is required so much i can add it in a later build of my roms
Well, I would very appreciate it, really.
Stpark - that's exactly what I was trying to do!
Regarding BA's bluetooth speed, I was aware that it's bt is only ver. 1.1, that is quite slow, but I assumed it would nonetheless still be faster than ordinary gprs. Thanks again for the confirmation.
Stpark, by the way, searching for the "missing bluetooth DUN" I came across a WM developers blog, (http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2007/04/17/why-did-we-remove-bluetooth-dun.aspx) who said that actually they didn't remove it from the ROMs completely, they just put it as an option, but due to user's demand they will return it to the standard package in WM 6.5.
Xplode, thank you for all the roms so far, and I would also appreciate very very much a rom with the DUN included, and I think many of us would as well... Thank you...
To be exactly precise on DUN... There is DUN and there is another DUN.
There is model where your BA acts as DUN host (i.e. you dial from PC using your handheld as modem).
And there is model where your BA acts as DUN client (i.e. you dial from BA using you whetever mobile phone as modem).
So far we are talking about second model, whereas Microsoft is dropping DUN for first. It means that BA as modem role is being replaced by BT PAN. I am not aware about Microsoft being dropped DUN client role in Windows Mobile.
It seem to be just an issue with composition of latest BA ROMs.
That's right, we need the "second" option, that is when the BA acts as a client connecting to a host mobile phone with 3g internet connection.
Be it as it may, because I don't know if MS did drop DUN altogether, or just the first, host mode operation, we need the second one. I'd say badly.
Now I'm hoping for a ROM with DUN in it... (xplode..xplode..
ps. I'm writing this on my BA connected to the net through gprs, speed: 5 kb/s, just like dialup, happytime...
Well i am working on 20931 rom and may publish it these days, but i still have some issues with it when i solve them i will publish it
Well i am working on 20931 rom and may publish it these days, but i still have some issues with it (due to proper translation from chinese) when i solve them i will publish it