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MDA Vario /Qtek 9100 and 4GB?

Anybody know if This PDA can support 4GB miniSD?
Thanks.

The Wizard is miniSD compatible. miniSD is derived of the SD specification that support up to 2GB memory cards. 4GB cards are SDHC compatible derived of the SDHC specification. For this reason 4GB memory cards are not compatible with the wizard neither with TyTN. I don't know any 4GB miniSD card from any fame manufacturer.
More information on this link from SanDisk:
http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/pdf/retail/SDHC1.pdf

Thanks maca2406.
But, did you try?
Anybody try it and don't work?
Thanks

ive got a 4gb sd card working with mine..i got it as a present so im not sure where it's from since it hasnt got a name on it..but it does work..

Hello EgemenBor,
Not 4GB SD but 4GB miniSD card on a MDA Vario (or Wizard, Qtek 9100, Imate K-Jam), right?
Thanks

Nope, but maybe a generic product works, look this link:
http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=miniSD_4096mb_MOBY_002
I don't trust on non branded products then I can not respond your question. but is important to know that neighter fame manufacturer has 4GB miniSD cards for sale (ex. SanDisk, Kingston, etc).

From that SanDisk article:
2. Look for SDHC logo on card and packaging itself
a. GB SD cards without SDHC logo are non-compliant with the SDA 2.00
specification.
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Notice, they say "non-compliant" and NOT "non-existent." They are obviously cow-towing to device manufacturers here, plus expecting us to foot the bill!
The problems I've heard of with these cards are:
1.) They don't last as long. (Neither did 3.5" Low-Density Floppy Disks when formatted as High-Density, but I've still got a few originals hanging around that work....) It would be great to know what proccess they were using to create these drives as opposed to the 2GB ones....
2.) The card may need to be repartitioned into 2-2GB drives. (See this thread)
please remember that just because it doesn't meet the new standard, doesn't mean it doesn't work with the older standard-devices
I, for one, am grateful there are vendors serving this sub-market, even though the major players are moving on!

Thanks Blazoner.
Anybody have a miniSD 4GB card on a Wizard, that works well?
Thanks

maca2406 said:
Nope, but maybe a generic product works, look this link:
http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=miniSD_4096mb_MOBY_002
I don't trust on non branded products then I can not respond your question. but is important to know that neighter fame manufacturer has 4GB miniSD cards for sale (ex. SanDisk, Kingston, etc).
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I have 2 mobymemory cards 2gb and 1 gb both work v well - if mobymemory say this 4gb card will work i trust them - i will most likely get one!
I have said all along that i think a 4gb mini-sd card will work in the wizard as a 4gb sd card works in a prophet and they really have v similar roms. 4gb even works in a magician and that has an even older rom.

I base myself on what SanDisk says in this link in red:
http://www.sandisk.com/Compatibility/Device(8040)-T-Mobile-MDA_Vario.aspx
T-Mobile MDA Vario
(Mobile Phones)
Maximum capacity for this device: May support up to 2GB
Please check with your device manufacturer for details.
Also, SanDisk doesn't manufacture 4GB minisd cards. I have learned to pay attention to what SanDisk says
It would be necessary to check if to use more than 2gb works ok with the Wizard with this 4gb minisd card. Unfortunately I am in America and I don't have access to mobymemory devices.

maca2406 said:
I base myself on what SanDisk says in this link in red:
http://www.sandisk.com/Compatibility/Device(8040)-T-Mobile-MDA_Vario.aspx
T-Mobile MDA Vario
(Mobile Phones)
Maximum capacity for this device: May support up to 2GB
Please check with your device manufacturer for details.
Also, SanDisk doesn't manufacture 4GB minisd cards. I have learned to pay attention to what SanDisk says
It would be necessary to check if to use more than 2gb works ok with the Wizard with this 4gb minisd card. Unfortunately I am in America and I don't have access to mobymemory devices.
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I will let you know if it works when i get one

maca2406 said:
Nope, but maybe a generic product works, look this link:
http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=miniSD_4096mb_MOBY_002
I don't trust on non branded products then I can not respond your question. but is important to know that neighter fame manufacturer has 4GB miniSD cards for sale (ex. SanDisk, Kingston, etc).
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They claim it will work:
Mobile Compatibility List: New!QTEK 9100
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Anyone any experience with these cards?

I just buy one miniSD 4GB from Transcend (55€!)... I will check and post...

turns out I have the 4gb memory card from mobymemory...last couple of days its been giving me a lot of hassle..asking me to format it which I did twice and now its stopped working the phone just does red the card...I've emailed mobymemory 5 minutes ago lets see what they reply with..anybody else have the problem of the phone not 'seeing' the memory card?

EgemenBor said:
turns out I have the 4gb memory card from mobymemory...last couple of days its been giving me a lot of hassle..asking me to format it which I did twice and now its stopped working the phone just does red the card...I've emailed mobymemory 5 minutes ago lets see what they reply with..anybody else have the problem of the phone not 'seeing' the memory card?
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How long did it work ok? try formatting it on the device using sktools or storage tools

Take a look at this thread. It describes this problem and it's solutions in detail. Just read miniSD instead of SD.
Remember, it can still be compatible with the current standard, even if it doesn't comply with the new standard.
If all Fords are cars, does that mean all cars are Fords?
If all miniHDSC cards are 4GB or larger, does that mean all 4GB or larger memory cards are miniHDSC cards?
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Hi,
I receive my new miniSD 4GB card... but my Wizard don't recognize it!
Is a new SDHC and even my laptop with a pcmcia reader card (old) don't recognize too! But I think card is OK because with my Sanyo Xacti C6 work well!
What can I do? Can I make 2x 2GB partitions FAT 16... maybe Wizard work?
Thanks

well my phone isn't reading the memory card and when I try to access it via a card reader on my pc nothing happens...just gets stuck..could it be that the card is dead?
I've had the problem for the past week or so...the card in general was really slow I.e. uplaoding files and accessing the card on my pc would take a while..

I try format miniSDHC 4GB card with 2 partitions 2GB FAT16 but Wizard don't recognize it! Even my old pcmcia card reader can't "see" it! At laptop only work with a card reader that works with SDHC!
Any Help?
Thanks

By this experience, I think Wizard can't read any miniSDHC card unless HTC make a firmware update (will do sometime?) to support this new standard SDHC!
Anybody have better good news?
But, I can't understand why Qtek 9000 and S200 can read SD 4GB, like some persons report it!!!
Thanks

T-Mobile MDA(US) compatible with 4GB miniSD!

http://www.unityelectronics.com/product-product_id/3912
Success with this one out of the box!
No need to re-partition. Full size recognized by the MDA.
Currently running the following from the card, no issues:
1. TomTom Nav 6
2. Windows Live Search
3. Movies in avi format useing TCPMP
4. MP3s using Win Media Player and TCPMP
5. PIE cache on the card.
Currently have it loaded up to 3805.5MB, 179.5MB free, total 3985 MB as reported by settings/memory.
WM5 file explorer see all the files I have on the card.
Total commander also works fine with the card.
Now it is just a matter of seeing how long the card will KEEP working.

4Gb miniSD card is still working. No hiccups today!

Just wanted you to know that *someone* is watching! :lol:
Please keep updating on whether it continues to work.

rpodos said:
Just wanted you to know that *someone* is watching! :lol:
Please keep updating on whether it continues to work.
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I just look at the number of times the thread has been read!
I know some are watching.
Yes. Still working just fine today!

I have a 4GB card too. Got it off ebay. No problems with it to speak of. Had it for a few weeks. Have 2161.88 MB filled. 1711.53 Free. No problems with running stuff off it and playing music too.

When I want to buy a 4GB card, the saler told me that it better to use 2GB miniSD instead of 4GB miniSD in T-Mobile MDA. Because 4GB need more electric power. Do you find any problem on the battery life?

When I want to buy a 4GB card, the saler told me that it better to use 2GB miniSD instead of 4GB miniSD in T-Mobile MDA. Because 4GB need more electric power. Do you find any problem on the battery life?

biolover said:
When I want to buy a 4GB card, the saler told me that it better to use 2GB miniSD instead of 4GB miniSD in T-Mobile MDA. Because 4GB need more electric power. Do you find any problem on the battery life?
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I have not noticed a differnece.

4g
Wow!
I have found that on a 1gig chip I could pack 6 movies created with Pocket DVD.
12 on a 2 gig.
So a 4 gig would hold 24!
Or, you could fit 45 CDs and STILL fit a dozen movies and all your files.
I am VERY interested!....

What brand of 4 GB are you guys using? Thanks.

humblehyper said:
What brand of 4 GB are you guys using? Thanks.
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See 1st post in this thread.

Warning! If your serial number starts with "HT604", it will probably NOT work. I have one of these cards (same place Mark got his) and it fails in my unit.
His works - his serial number starts with "HT606".
So there appears to be a HARDWARE difference - we are both running the same ROM!

Problem with 4GB miniSD
I have 2 TopRam 2 GB cards that work great - have never given me any problem.
So I got a 4 GB TopRam card. First day it worked fine - copied all files from my 2 GB card onto the 4 GB card with the card reader, it read fine in my 8125, showed almost 4 GB total capacity and over 2 GB free.
Then it suddenly quit being recognized. I thought I had a corrupt music file that caused the problem. I tried to reformat the card but it is now not recognized in my 8125, nor is it recognized in the card reader on my laptop, or in my digital camera. So I have no way to reformat it and try again. I tried the WM5torage trick posted elsewhere - it doesn't recognize the card either.
Any ideas? I know that 4 GB cards work in Wizards! But are they extremely finicky?
This is the second 4 GB card I've tried - the first was a Transcend SDHC and it was a bust from the get-go. But the TopRam seems like it should work, if I could just get it reformatted!

problem!
i just got my 4gb mini sd off ebay.
it is san disk brand.
i tried to format it with windows but windows wouldnt do FAT16.
so i formatted on my ppc and both my ppc and windows read only 1.89gb.
HELP!

My UnityElectronics 4GB is still working fine. I had some issues with PIE using the card for Cache, Temp Internet Files and Cookies. The MDA would keep reverting to phone memory for PIE instead of the 4 GB card. I went back to using Opera and have not had any other new issues.
I have my TomTomV6 1.4GB file on the 4 GB storage card and it worked flawlessly on my trip to PA last week.
I have also ordered the TOPRAM 4GB card and am waiting for it to arrive. Will be interesting to see if I run into the same problems others have had with the TOPRAM card.
Unfortunate that the SDHC card did not work. Over at HF there is a post that there is a dll and reg entries for SDHC. Wonder if it was just a bum card.
As for the TOPRAM card, have you contacted the ebay seller to inquire if he has heard of other similar issues? Sounds like it is no really populated with the full set of memory chips for 4GB. I ran into something similar last year with a card supposedly manufactured by NCP. Turned out to be a fraud. I contacted NCP in Singapore and they indicated that they did not make a 4GB card.
Have you tried TOPRAM directly to see if they have any suggestions?
http://www.topram.com/contact.htm
Interesting that their website shows the 4GB card but it is not on the miniSD page.??????
Will le you know how I make out the TOPRAM.

http://stores.ebay.com/MOBILEMEM_W0QQsspagenameZL2QQtZkm
My MDA serial is HT621 and all works fine.

supastarv said:
http://stores.ebay.com/MOBILEMEM_W0QQsspagenameZL2QQtZkm
My MDA serial is HT621 and all works fine.
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The TOMRAM 4GB card?

Genesis3 said:
Warning! If your serial number starts with "HT604", it will probably NOT work. I have one of these cards (same place Mark got his) and it fails in my unit.
His works - his serial number starts with "HT606".
So there appears to be a HARDWARE difference - we are both running the same ROM!
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Where would I find this information...in the phone information or under the battery?

Shawner said:
Where would I find this information...in the phone information or under the battery?
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The only place I could find it was on the outside of the box the MDA was shipped in. You DID keep yours, didn't you?
Seriously, I have not found it on the phone anywhere.

Of course I kept mine. I have never thrown away any cell phone boxes.
Mine is HT 618...hopefully it will work.

4GB SD card in XDA exec

Hi there. Bought 4GB Kingston Elite Pro SD card. Formatted FAT32, and 3.0GB of files on it. XDA exec will neither read, nor format it. (NB, works perfectly with identical card, but in 2GB capacity. Card is standard SD, not SDHC.
Any thoughts
Thanks

I have a 4gb card aswell for my spv 5000 and it won't read it. it only sees 1.71gb of it but won't format it

I recall that this has been dealt with on the Uni-Accessories area. Have a search there. 4Gb cards definitely work. Maybe it has to be FAT not FAT32?

Also wondering if you flashed with the SD card inserted? I think this will consider the SD card as part of the ROM and basically uses some of the card (although what for I don't know).
Mine is FAT32 (4GB Transcend 150x) works fine.
Have you tried the card in a card reader? What are the results there?

SpyderTracks said:
Also wondering if you flashed with the SD card inserted? I think this will consider the SD card as part of the ROM and basically uses some of the card (although what for I don't know).
Mine is FAT32 (4GB Transcend 150x) works fine.
Have you tried the card in a card reader? What are the results there?
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No, haven't flashed ROM for many months.
Card shows up fine when inserted into the reader slot on my Dell Inspiron 9400. I can open files on it, and copy files to it, but when put in XDA EXEC, always get 'Would you like to format this disc to make it readable?', and if you click yes, the XDA EXEC freezes.

Hello All
I too hav a Orange SPV m5000 and im using a PQI 4GB Sd card.
Its working fie here.
Formated: FAT32
I guess its a kompatibility thing?

@kennethsross... have you ever been able to read the card from the phone?
I know there are lots of problems with imitation cards on the market that aren't quite as reliable and fast as they're supposed to be. It's worth buying one of the more expensive ones just to avoid this problem (not saying this is the problem, just bit of info).
It does seem strange that it reads fine out of the unit though... maybe like SPVlover says, it could simply be a little compatibility issue (which would be annoying as hell!).
Just wondering what your OS version is? Maybe it's a slightly corrupt install? That's clutching at straws I know...
Might be worth checking the following settings in your registry...
hklm\drivers\sdcard\clientdrivers\class\mmc_class
hklm\drivers\sdcard\clientdrivers\class\SDMemory_c lass
The value in each should be set at 64 as standard unless you've tweaked it. Just wondering if those values are present at all? If not, it sounds like a corrupt driver install.

RE
TRANSCEND 4GB 150x SD card formatted to FAT32 works in my QTEK9000 with the latest A2DP ROM without problem

SpyderTracks said:
@kennethsross... have you ever been able to read the card from the phone?
I know there are lots of problems with imitation cards on the market that aren't quite as reliable and fast as they're supposed to be. It's worth buying one of the more expensive ones just to avoid this problem (not saying this is the problem, just bit of info).
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Looking more and more like this is a counterfeit card. Wondering if it is an SD-HC after all - Kingston claim they do not make 4GB standard SD cards.
I guess that would explain why my laptop can read it (SD-HC capable), but the XDA-EXEC can't.
Thanks again for all your advice on this. Maybe shouldn't have bought on eBay!!!

Universal corrupted my 4G SD card?

I have used a 150x 4G A-Data SD card for a couple of months without problems.
Today my Universal (MDA PRO) asked me:
"Do you want to try to format this storage card to make it readable? This will permanently delete any files on the card."
And the symptom was that Universal did not see the card at all. Then I put the card into the external reader of the PC and Windows XP asked me:
"The disk in drive X is not formatted.
Do you want to format it now?"
Is there any chance to regain the content of the card?
Thanks for any help.

try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303788&highlight=re-partitioned

Thanks, but do you think it can help even if the card was not partitioned for 2GB?

User79 said:
I have used a 150x 4G A-Data SD card for a couple of months without problems.
Today my Universal (MDA PRO) asked me:
"Do you want to try to format this storage card to make it readable? This will permanently delete any files on the card."
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Had the same problem with a 4GB-card. I read, that the original SD-card-standard was made for up to 2GB cards. All cards with 4GB sold as non-SDHC-cards are not standards-compliant because some addressing of the memory blocks was not made for such sizes. Although it works under some circumstances, it doesn't mostly. (see here.)
So, you might want to get 2x 2GB-cards since the reader of the Universal does not yet support SDHC-protocol.
Cheers,
-mARKUS

Also got the transcend 4gb card. Admittedly I have 2.7GB used up for music - but I do not have any issues at all with my universal!!
Perhaps thats the solution make sure you fill over 2GB.
Matt

so is the XDA compatible with sd-hc cards or not? I'm looking at getting one of these
http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=777_6&products_id=102082
but don't want to if it's not going to work properly.

phil.cooke said:
so is the XDA compatible with sd-hc cards or not? I'm looking at getting one of these
http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=777_6&products_id=102082
but don't want to if it's not going to work properly.
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The Universal (or variants of) is not compatible with sdhc cards - most non-sdhc 4gb cards do work though (mine is an ebay cheapy and works perfectly!)

thanks for the reply

SD/SDHC Memory Card Formatting Software

SD/SDHC Memory Card Formatting Software
http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/sd/download/sd_formatter.html

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SD/SDHC Memory Card Formatting Software
http://panasonic.jp/support/global/c...formatter.html
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The link seems to be dead

Link is active now.
Link is active now.

anyone used this?
Is it really necessary?
I had a 4Gb card from Moby Memory- it randomly corrupted data. I couldn't work out if it was the OS, the handset or the card causing problems, but assumed it was the card. They refunded me no problems.
I now have a 1Gb Crucial card- no problems so far. (fingers crossed).
The Trinity does seem to be a bit fussy with spotting cards when you insert them (well mine does!)

Need
Brother Please Help Me
I Need
SD/SDHC Memory Card Unlocker.​

I really need a 4GB or more sd card.
I have searched and searched for a solution but there seems to be no clear answer. It would seem that some Trinity users are able to use 4gb and 8gb micro cards with adaptors, but others end up with problems after soft resets, such as the device no longer seeing the sd card, or files becoming corrupted.
SO.... I ask you all:
- Can the Trinity reliably use a 4gb micro card with adaptor?
- Is there a fix or download that actually works to achieve the above?
- If not, is there such a thing as a 4GB mini sd card (not sdhc or micro)?
I have tried using a 4gb micro card with adaptor and after soft resetting my Trinity either fails to see it or the sd card became corrupted. I have read many similar stories and experiences. However, My Tomtom maps are nearly 2gb, so I need a 4gb card at least!!!
I see other xda members using 4gb and 8 gb cards. Please, HOW are they achieving this?
Thanks,
Mattster.

hi Mattster,
best way I can hopefully help to answer your questions is:
1. I have used cheap Sandisk 4 gig micro sd's with adaptor in a few Trinity's with no problems at all.
2. there are 4 gig min Sd's out there - see ebay item 260468007473
3. disregarding that cards usually come ready formatted, I always format myself before use anyway.
I have used the Panasonic Formatter (ver 2.0.03) for some time and it works for me.

carkev said:
hi Mattster,
best way I can hopefully help to answer your questions is:
1. I have used cheap Sandisk 4 gig micro sd's with adaptor in a few Trinity's with no problems at all.
2. there are 4 gig min Sd's out there - see ebay item 260468007473
3. disregarding that cards usually come ready formatted, I always format myself before use anyway.
I have used the Panasonic Formatter (ver 2.0.03) for some time and it works for me.
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Hi Carkev.
Thanks for the advice.
I have looked at the 4GB mini sd. It's from Hong Kong and he has sold "4" to date, so I may wait a little before getting one.
Some Trinity's seem to accept 4GB micro's with adaptor, some don't. The search for the reason or solution has tired me out, so I'm sticking with my 2GB for now. I only needed it for my European Tomtom maps (2GB!) so I'll just stick with UK and Ireland.
Thanks for your reply,
Mattster.

shaahedrazib said:
Brother Please Help Me
I Need
SD/SDHC Memory Card Unlocker.​
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Did you get a solution? If yes, please let me know.