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right now, when an incoming call happens, it will ring about 3 times before it drops to voicemail... is there a way to extend this to 6 or 10 rings, so i can at least make a feeble attempt to answer or see who it is before it goes offline to voicemail...?
I beleave 30 seconds is the longest you can set the ring for. Go to >phone>menu>options>services>call forwarding>get settings.
Depends on your carrier. AT&T is 30 seconds max but you will want to set it for 25 seconds as setting it for 30 seconds costs a minute worth of airtime if they don't pick up. AT&T uses a piece of software called Snooper to set this length on your account. You can just call customer care and they will fix ya up in a jiffy. I'm not sure about other carriers but I assume the process is similiar.
The nice thing about this is you can cut your own ringtones up to match the length of the rings so they either loop properly or end right as the rings end. I will say though that for whatever reason the ring time changes back for me from time to time and I have to call back up and have them change it again. Not sure what causes this. I haven't done this in ages so they may have fixed that issue.
galaxys said:
I beleave 30 seconds is the longest you can set the ring for. Go to >phone>menu>options>services>call forwarding>get settings.
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well, that just sucks...
I just put in the SIM card on my smartphone and tried to call and I get a weird call tone - instead of one I get two overlapping ones, one being solid "beeeeep" and the other more like a bit vibrating one. And if the line is busy, the call ends with the usual "beep-beep-beep" but instead of the earphone it comes from a speakerphone and the worst thing is, it doesn't end until I press the "End talk" button whereas on other phones it usually ends after 3-4 beeps.
My question is - is this behaviour normal for the WM6 built-in phone? I kinda doubt it but still... And is there any decent replacement for the built-in call handler application or are they all based on the same built-in crap? I looked but I found not much other than skins...
I suspect that one call tone is from network and the other is from built in application when it gets the network signal, but there's not much I am able to do about it, so please, can anyone help?
Sounds like your profile. Do you have it set to ring, and vibrate at the same time? As for the end talk, that's normal for WM6 phones.
Actually it's not the profile, because I am talking about the tone that I hear from the earpiece - there's two of them. I am not talking about vibration, that's turned off. Just that the overlapping call tones - one is solid, other is vibrant beep. And it sucks that there's two of them...
In addition, here's one weird thing - when I put in SIM card from one operator, it does these annoying things, but when I put another, everything works fine. So it kind of depends on the SIM card somehow...
UPDATE: Got rid of the double call tone with a workaround - in registry under HKCU\\ControlPanel\Sounds\GCFTone changed the "sound" key value from "ringback.wav" to "silent.wav", for which I previously created an empty wav file full of silence and copied it to Windows folder.
The SIM card change didn't help. I currently conclude that
a) if the SIM card is SIM ToolKit capable, it creates this anomaly.
b) the problem lies with some unknown properties of the SIM.
The problem with busy tone coming out of speaker still persists. Haven't found a solution for it yet. Going to harrass Microsoft and the mobile operator with the issue now
What is weird is that as far as I know, this is the most advanced PPC forum and I don't get even ideas about which registry setting to look into or smth... That's a bit sad.
Hi !
Has somebody found some solution to reduce the delay for the ringtones for blackstone ?
I've installed the second cab here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=258109) as well as write in the registery (av0pw0r), but i can't reduce the delay under (almost) 2 ring tones, eventough i use a *.wma file.
I've also tried to play on HD tweak (1.7 option), but this does not change anything...
This is very annoying me, i've already lost some calls.
I haven"t tried yet a cooked ROM, but i wonder if this would change something
Please help
make sure the ringtone is on the phone and not card. That helped me a lot.
tks for your answer.
But well, i use (for the moment) the "Alarm-Classic.wav" under windows\rings, so i think it's ok from this side
How much delay do u have ?
hi.
using wma ringtones I get a response on my HD in about 1 ring after a soft reset. From the second call on the HD rings at about half a ring to the caller.
three rings from to wake from soft off.
but i forgot to say that if the phone is already "on", the delay is about 1/2 half ringtone, which is acceptable ! .
It seems that the additionnal delay (about 1 sec.) comes from the phone to go from "standby" to "on"
I've always had a delay with every HTC I've had (C500, C600. E650, Touch HD) using standard and custom ROMs with ringtones as WAV's and MP3's on the device and the storage card. I got used to it ages ago and if the phones on my desk can now predict an incoming call before it rings
Hi,
I was also searching for a solution on the ring tone delay issue. Guess that is a winmobile thing.
However there is no delay if you switch off the ring-tone and enable vibration mode only. That is weired behavior of the phone cause why cannot the ring-tone sound as fast as the vibration comes in vibmode only? And why does the vibration comes as late as the ring-tone when in combi-mode?
I am afraid there is no solution so far...
Regs!
this delay is something you'll have to learn to live with, unfortunately. at least in europe people seem to be finding loud and/or dodgy ringtones not very nice, and when dealing with the wiindows mobile vibrate mode is the one to go for.
another suggestion is to set up a caller tune, people are more likely to wait longer when they're listening to music.
ive found i can get it to ring at 1 ring if i turn off caller id pictures on s2u2
Yeah, the operating system does all the checks and clearing up before handling the call to prevent dropping, the way WM handles things, you can't get way from the delay, slowing the CPU with app like a nuedynamicclock worsens it. Well I notice a call before it rings if it is on
SlakerBoi said:
this delay is something you'll have to learn to live with, unfortunately
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All my wm devices have had this issue. My blackstone lights up from sleep a good 2 to 3 sec. before the first ring. I use the old phone ring tone and have four fairly well spaced rings before vm kicks in. I just count the rings as I get to the phone and it has become a non issue. The hd tweek for it seemed not to have an effect btw. Also I'm with t-mo usa and using their code I have my ringtime set to max rings. which is 30 sec. before vm.
There is a delay between incoming call and actually the phone ringing. Did you notice that as well? I asked my callers already several times how many rings they have heared. Normally 2, and I only heared one. So?
As well there is a small delay between picking up and actually being able to speak... Did you notice this as well?
i'm facing the same problem
Thx for your feedback. So now the question is if there is any reg-hack to speed this up.
I noticed that too.
But if you pay attention, there is a low ring in the background. Make a test in a zero noise environment..
@uterrorista, low-ring? pretty usefull, ha?
@all, pushing up the topic.
pretty bad, if the "waking up" process takes that long so the caller already got something like 3-4 rings until I hear the first ring...
any idea?
Upgrading your Radio should mostly solve this problem. And always try to have your ringtones in main memory rather than storage cards because power to sd card cuts of in standby mode and may take some time to return after awaken by a call.
Regards,
Carty..
With the new radio occurs the same.
Incoming call delay
This may help....
Somethings to consider:
1- I would say the actual ring signal is not always synchronized with the ring back tone we heard. The may come from different system within a complex telecom network. Therefore, some delay is expected as normal functionality in all telephone systems (Fix and mobile ones). What you hear when calling is send by the phone systems you are connected too (i. e. fix phone line of your provider central office systems). What makes your phone ringing is a command (teleco-protocol) sent by the system you are registered-in) So, we do not expect a ring to ring back sync any way.
2- To the previous fact, we should add the wake-up time, ringing tone search and play back as well as picture and info shown on display, call execution inner in the process on your JADE. You may minimize a bit these things, but I would say only a bit if you have the device always awake (battery waste) and your ringing tones are in the main memory.
3- if your phone does not give you radio problem, please do not upgrade it. You may run in problems you did not have before and it will void your warranty.
4- We can go further and add our ear and brain response time.
5- The time that comes for the call to go to diver destination or voice mail, counts from the moment that your phone is seized by your host public system and not from the moment the caller hear the first ring back tone.
Conclusion:
I do not see a real problem as far as it does not go over two ring back tones.
A lot of ringtones are silent about 1 second before they actually start (just like some songs and stuff). That might be your problem?
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A lot of ringtones are silent about 1 second before they actually start (just like some songs and stuff). That might be your problem?
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No, it isnt. Mine is the dafault tone.
If the jade is near a pc monitor, the monitor starts to make interferences two or three seconds before the screen lights up and the tone starts ringing.
yesterday it rang 1x and my caller said he heared the ringtone on his side of the line 5x!!!! wtf!?!?
what can we do to fix this?
Hello my radio version is 0.27.30.09 (from stock)
I too had a 3 ring call delay, i installed jademan superrom (which did not update the radio version , it's still the old one) and somehow the call delay vanished...
Or u can try the reg tweak to set the ring script to "av1pr" using sktools... works well for me..
hope that helps
Raghav_K said:
Hello my radio version is 0.27.30.09 (from stock)
I too had a 3 ring call delay, i installed jademan superrom (which did not update the radio version , it's still the old one) and somehow the call delay vanished...
Or u can try the reg tweak to set the ring script to "av1pr" using sktools... works well for me..
hope that helps
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Can explain the sk-tweak please?
Sure :d
install the latest sktools, Choose tuneup < phone edition < ring script and typr av1pr... which gives u a very short vibrate and ring... (which fits me cos the ring volume isn't very high and i dont wanna miss calls in noisy areas.. U can see help to modify the script to ur needs)
or if u prefer editing registry, use a registry editor to go to HKCU/ControlPanel/Sounds/Ringtone0/script and change the REG_SZ value to av1pr
annoying incoming call delay
Hi,
i have changed the registry script as people say but no difference. And that's no surprise as if you read the script letter by letter "av1pr" means activate device/vibrate/play ringtone/repeat. The original script "apw3r" again means "activate the phone/play rington/wait 3 seconds/repeat". So the 3 seconds delay happens AFTER the phone plays the ringtone the first time.
However, the activation(with activation I mean to wake up the phone from standby) actually happens always on the beginning of the second ring. I have another phone and I have done few tests calling the jade so I am sure of what I am saying.
By the way, I dont know if you noticed but changing the ringtone changes the script back to the original one. But it doesnt really matter given that this tweak doesnt make any difference.
I have to say instead that disabling the skin dialer allowed me to gain 1 second, and now the phone activates just before the second ring. So I believe that the solution should be found somewhere else and not in the script that everyone keeps talking about.
I think I have read that the superrom doesnt have this problem(jade rom development in this section). What did it change in there? why it doesnt show that?
Any help appreciated
Franco
Actually av1pr means activate & vibrate 1 sec & Ring
apw3r means activate & wait 3 sec and play ringtone
I used to get the caller screen and no ring till 3 sec till i changed that.... i know it resets everytime after u change rt but no prob for me cos i don change RT often and sktools has an easy way of changing it
And i need it to vibrate for 1 sec coz ring volume is a bit low in htc phones..
PS: i'm using superrom too
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Actually av1pr means activate & vibrate 1 sec & Ring
apw3r means activate & wait 3 sec and play ringtone
I used to get the caller screen and no ring till 3 sec till i changed that.... i know it resets everytime after u change rt but no prob for me cos i don change RT often and sktools has an easy way of changing it
And i need it to vibrate for 1 sec coz ring volume is a bit low in htc phones..
PS: i'm using superrom too
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well, the phone follows the sequence of commands so if it is:
apw3r
the phone will a=activate, then p=play ringtone, w3=wait 3 seconds, r=repeat sequence.
So the 3 seconds delay is after the first time the rt is played.
But I have the same initial delay with both scripts it does p**s me off really!
have you tried to use another phone to call your jade with the superrom? how long does it take to play the tone?
well i have tried and my jade starts vibrating by the time the first ring ends( in the phone from which i'm calling)
can u try the decrease ring delay tweak in the mighty enhancements section of this link and see if it works
http://triton.homeip.net/RegistryChanger/
My own experience is that SuperROM made absolutely no difference at all, neither does hacking the ringtone script (as other have said, the "delay" is after the ringtone has started anyway).
What did make a difference in both the stock & superrom firmware was to disable the HTC dialer skin and revert to the WM6.1 caller id bubble. This reduced the average delay to about 1 second. The other variable is whether the phone is in full suspend mode or awake - my phone certainly takes longer to activate from full suspend mode (full suspend being suspend on battery).
Haven't tried the new HTC stock ROM yet, maybe this improves things? I think it will take some changes to the low-level drivers to improve on the 1 second wake-up with WM6.1 dialer (these may be in the new stock ROM, all of the cooked ROMs use low-level drivers from the original stock ROM so will all be the same in this respect).
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well i have tried and my jade starts vibrating by the time the first ring ends( in the phone from which i'm calling)
can u try the decrease ring delay tweak in the mighty enhancements section of this link and see if it works
http://triton.homeip.net/RegistryChanger/
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Absolutely no difference whatsover. Again, the only improvement I can get is when I disable the dialer skin and use the wm default one. Then it rings just before hearing the second tone on the calling line.
To be honest I am not surprised, the registry key that is changed is:
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\RingPreview\InitVol
which clearly refers to a volume level and not to a time delay...??
Just checking to see if there is any development. There a thread asking about it once a year, with 2 or 3 people saying they'd like that too, so I thought I'd start this years.
So: Is there any kind of registry-hack that allows you to change the vibrate style, intensity, duration and so on?
What I am personally trying to achieve is this:
Instead of having the phone either Vibrate shortly and than ring without vibrating or ring while vibrating continuously at full throttle, I would like my phone to Ring while giving short vibrate bursts every 5 seconds or so. Preferably the intensity of the vibrate could be set for different loudness levels of the ringing.
But I am guessing there is still no way of influencing this, so thx for reading. See you next year ;-)
Try looking at this post.
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Try looking at this post.
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Wow, that actually might work. I came across these codes before, but explained in much less detail and it sounded like you could only remove or add vibrate, LED flashing etc... not actually program durations and wait times.
I will give it a go. If I got all the options right, this is exactly what I needed.
Thank you very, very much!!!
PS: Damnit, now I see myself changing values, reseting, calling myself, reevaluating, changing values, reseting, calling myself etc etc all through the night lol
EDIT: Ok, falls a bit short of what I wanted to achieve, but still gives me alot more control than before. So still, huge thx.
Unfortunately there still seems no way to influence the intensity of the vibrate and unfortunately once you set the command to play the ringtone, the next command wont be executed until the ringtone finishes. So setting up soft Vibrate, start ringtone, hard vibrate every 5 seconds (as would be my prefered setting) wont work.