Cingular 8525 odd issue and locking up. - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

I had my Cingular 8525 for over a year and never had a lock up or screen of death until few days ago.
I been using Hard-SPL v7 and vp3G 6.x.x+ but recently I tried installing 6.1 then experineced memoray loss or drain that I have to keep resetting it often so I went back to vp3G.
When flashing rom in the past I would click Auto Detect on RUUWrapper since I have Hard-SPL v7 installed and it would detect the Hard-SPL and select the Hard-SPL, but after flashing 6.1 and going back will only give me an "error can't query device" so I manually select the Hard-SPL and it would flash fine with my manual selection.
Now I been going back and forth between the vp3G and varity of 6.1 roms by manually selecting the Hard-SPL in RUUWrapper since it could no longer query my bootloader but now I notice my device is locking up on it own that I am reseting almost every hour or so.
So thinking maybe bootloader problem I reflashed Hard-SPL v7 and no improvement so I reflash factory ROM using Hard-SPL and RUUWrapper but still no improvement and then reflash back to vp3G but it still locking up daily.
Strangest thing is that I know when it going to lock up because the 8525 would be sleep and LCD power off but it will wake up on it own and lock up LCD staying on all the time but frozen that it would drain my battery quickly so I have to reset it and recharge it if I didn't catch it earlier.
I check info 8 and no bad blocks at all on it.
Any idea what may be causing this lock up? I am hoping it something I can fix before thinking about buying a new PDA.
Thank for all your inputs and replies!
Bill

try flashing back to stock rom then to rom of choice. theres been a lot of people saying this helps.. Hope it helps you too..... cheers

Just one or two other things to consider:
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Had you done the fake server trick to stop Acive Sync starting on your old set up? May be worth doing it again if it is Active Sync auto-starting that is causing the crashes.
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I assume this does not haappen at exactly the same time every day. If it does then some alarm or notification may be the cause. Otherwise think about whether there are any self starting / synchronising apps installed - typically weather checkers, mail (push / pull, time sync etc etc.
Mike

ultramag69 said:
try flashing back to stock rom then to rom of choice. theres been a lot of people saying this helps.. Hope it helps you too..... cheers
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Yes I have flashed back to stock rom (latest 8525 rom from HTC site for AT&T) but I couldn't flash it with it own romupdate because of the Hard-SPL so I took out the RUU_signed.nbh and flashed it with the RUUWrapper then tried it for a few days but it still locked up.
I have not try putting the bootloader back to stock yet because I didn't think it would made any difference.
I have reflashed it back with VP3G now and so far it only locked up once in the last day so maybe it stopped doing it. I am not sure yet.
I am thinking if it lock up again to flash the stock bootloader back on it before flashing stock rom with it own romupdate. Do you think that will help any?
Bill

mikechannon said:
Just one or two other things to consider:
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Had you done the fake server trick to stop Acive Sync starting on your old set up? May be worth doing it again if it is Active Sync auto-starting that is causing the crashes.
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I assume this does not haappen at exactly the same time every day. If it does then some alarm or notification may be the cause. Otherwise think about whether there are any self starting / synchronising apps installed - typically weather checkers, mail (push / pull, time sync etc etc.
Mike
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I don't have any alarm or notification enabled for anything but incoming txt or emails. I am using Active Sync to check my email on the exchange server but I been doing this for over a year with no problems until the lock up issue recently.
I am still showing no bad blocks on info 8 so I am puzzled what may be causing the lock up but right now I have flashed it back to VP3G rom and only locked up once so far for a day and it seem to be working now without lock ups. I hope it stopped now but I sure wish I knew what was causing the lock ups.
Bill

I spoked too soon and jinxed myself, it still locking up .. rats!
Anyone know if it can be the Hard-SPL v7 bootloader causing the lockups?
I am not really wanting to flash it with oringal bootloader cuz I know anytime you flash bootloader you run a risk of bricking it.
Thanks
Bill

What about battery? The battery is orignal and over a year old but it still seem to be holding charge and charging fine thou.
Anyone experience similar issue and it turn out to be bad battery?
Bill

Would keeping it plugged into the USB slot so that it continually charges and provides ample power be a way of isolating the battery?
I had this happen to my old iPAQ 6365 before, one of the batteries, after about a year of usage, started to cause my iPAQ to lock up randomly. Switching back to the original HP battery solved it.

YorYor said:
Would keeping it plugged into the USB slot so that it continually charges and provides ample power be a way of isolating the battery?
I had this happen to my old iPAQ 6365 before, one of the batteries, after about a year of usage, started to cause my iPAQ to lock up randomly. Switching back to the original HP battery solved it.
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I had to plugged in usb slot and it still locks up after awhile while plugged in.
Bill

I removed the Hard-SPL today and went back to latest stock rom RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_3.62.502.3_6275_1.54.07.00_108_UOOS_SVN05_Ship .. it errored out while flashing and I was still in tri-mode screen so I restarted the computer and reflashed then it went all the way and device restarted but wouldn't boot past after that flying AT&T signal bars so I hard reset it and it went all the way installing the AT&T customization stuffs.
Now I am running on stock rom and stock bootloader so I will see if it still lock up. If it does then I am either gonna try upgrade or get another battery somewhere.
Do Wal Mart or Best Buy or any major retailers sell 8525 batteries? I know they sell some certain model PDA and cell phone batteries but not sure on 8525 thou.
Thanks
Bill

i doubt you will find a battery in walmart or bestbuy. your best bet would be an at&t store, but that too might not be so certain, as the 8525 has been phased out. check the accessories subforum, plenty of threads there on batteries.

It seem to be the media "storage" card that was causing it to lock up randomly because after I reflashed it back to stock bootloader/rom it contiune to lock up randomly until I removed the media card to get it ready to have it check out at the store and it stopped locking up randomly and worked all day long today without a problem. Even the memory leak issue I was having stopped as well too.
Strange that I don't have anything install on the storage card other than just photos or pictures I been taking with my phone and some software I storage in there but not an application installed or anything like that.
I put the media card back in and damn thing got wiped completely. Oh well I lost some pictures but not a really big deal however it is strange that the media card got wiped when I tried to test with it again. Media card still works allowing binary files to be stored in it. I am going to leave it out for now since I don't really need it and only use it to store stuffs and pictures.
I wonder if WM 6.1 rom did something to the media card that going back to older WM 5 or 6 rom didn't like it and keep locking up and have memory leak issue. Maybe some new format on media card?
Just strange but I am happy that the phone last all day long without a hicup so far and I probably just jinxed myself tomorrow by posting this ha!
Bill

Ah great to hear you found the problem without having to spend some money and result in a spare battery.
But you'll probably still need to shell out some for a new memory card. I remember reading somewhere that Kingstons give the least problems. Is yours a Kingston? Might want to consider getting a new one just to see whether it's the old card giving way.
The worst scenario now would be some component in the whole circuit related to the microSD card slot starting to malfunction..

3 days now and no lockups or soft resetting! So the problem was caused by the media "storage" card.
It is a SanDisk 2Gig brand and I probably will try using it again since it been working fine for over a year.
Otherwise I'll probably just find whatever media card I can get locally like at Best Buy or Wal Mart so I could refund it if it turn out to be the internal storage card circuit not functioning or causing the lockup when there a media card in it.
If the internal circuit inside is busted then Ill just keep using the phone without a media card until I feel the time to upgrade it with something better.
I am hoping my 8525 will hold out and keep working until that Sony Ericsson is released as long I don't have a media card in it.
Bill

It been over a week now, no lockups or soft resetting!
Even the slow memory leak I was having is gone too.
Strange that a media card was causing all this problem for me, I haven't try to get another one yet or put my old one back in since I was busy and didn't really want to jinx myself after having a whole week of problem free Hermes.
I wanted to share it with all of you so if your experiencing a lock up or memory leak that seem to be coming from nowhere, try removing your media card and use the phone for a day without it to see how it is.
Bill

I am having similar problems with my 8525.
I have downgraded to ATT stock 6.0, and stock bootloader.
I have removed the memory card, even tried a different battery.
Smae problem, the phone locks up within a few minutes.
I have kept on charger, same problem. I have reflashed several roms, currently at ATT 6.0, with no memory card installed.
Example:I reset phone at 7:52, it worked until 7:58( I know this because that is where the clock is currently frozen) and I am typing this message at 8:22.
This is average....
This problem has started in the last week. I had been using Schaps 4.31 for Hermes for the last couple of months no problems until a week ago.
Any ideas, phone is month out of warranty.

mriebeling said:
I am having similar problems with my 8525.
I have downgraded to ATT stock 6.0, and stock bootloader.
I have removed the memory card, even tried a different battery.
Smae problem, the phone locks up within a few minutes.
I have kept on charger, same problem. I have reflashed several roms, currently at ATT 6.0, with no memory card installed.
Example:I reset phone at 7:52, it worked until 7:58( I know this because that is where the clock is currently frozen) and I am typing this message at 8:22.
This is average....
This problem has started in the last week. I had been using Schaps 4.31 for Hermes for the last couple of months no problems until a week ago.
Any ideas, phone is month out of warranty.
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Try removing battery and pull sim card to clean contact pads then put it all back in.
Bill

Problem solved, kinda
I called Cingular/AT&T
Shared my problem, I got lucky talking to a very help CS person, long story short, they sent me a brand new Tilt(not refurbished & they threw in a new case and car charger) for free, even though my warranty had expired.
Its not even Christmas!
I will be moving up to the Kaiser boards now, thank for the help.

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Random Restarts

Has anyone had this???
My MDA Vario restarts on it self on a regular basis...then it asks for my password n den pin....
is this due to the fact that its been dropped twice??
or is it because i play mp3s on a regular basis?
Are you overclocking it? I was getting that as well but I reduced the speed to 240MHz from 264MHz and it hasn't happened since.
nope
Could also be the ROM Version you are using. I had constant reboots ( 3-5 times a day ) with the original T-Mobile ROM - now that I am using the QTEK 2.18 all is fine - no more reboots.
hmmm im using the original t mobile rom.....i seriously didnt want to blank my rom and flash a new version cos i aint done it before
Well known issue with the TMO Ship ROM I'm afraid. I'm stuck with it (and the reboots) as I need BB Connect but if you don't need BB then I'd recommend the latest QTEK, it's excellent and stable
JoninLA, thanks for that info mate, but whats BB?
also can you direct me to the latest rom, and a few simple instructions...
if the process is long then i wont do it. ive got a ton of coursework to get done...so messing about with fone makes me life a bit more stressful
BB (Blackberry).
Latest QTEK ROM is at ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Qtek/ and I was using the 186504-ruu_9100_2170702_21707102_20710_qtek_wwe_ship.exe which was very stable
Guys... I have the same problem with resets. However, this only happens when i have the bluetooth on. Anyone heard of any glitch with the bluetooth patch?
Well I haven't tried having the bluetooth off so you may be right - kind of sucks to say you can't use the SD in all the time or you have to turn the bluetooth off. Basically, this is an issue with the AKU1 and never had any problems with the AKU2 QTEK ROM so if anyone in this post chain doesn't need Blackberry connect I'd just recommend upgrading to a decent ROM
We're wondering if this problem, along with the MDA Vario ROM, might be SD-card related? See thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33537
Andre
andrewilley, hi mate....now that you mention it...restarts only kicked off when i got my 1GB mini sd!! never happend before :shock:
SBouri said:
andrewilley, hi mate....now that you mention it...restarts only kicked off when i got my 1GB mini sd!! never happend before :shock:
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What's on your SD card at the moment, is there anything that would prevent you from doing what I'm doing and taking it out for a few days for testing purposes?
It would also be worthwhile downloading B_Uptime, a neat little utility that logs all reboots so you'll know how long your device has been running and when any unexpected reboots have occured. See the thread at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45168
Andre
Well that's a full week with not a single unexpected reboot. When I had the SD card in place I was getting several reboots a day. I've got to put the card back in now as I need TomTom, so I guess the reboots will come back and really prove the point if there's any doubt left.
Has anyone else tried this test to see if their reboots go away without an SD card in place?
Hopefully it'll be fully cured with a newer ROM, anyway. I'm waiting to see what the new T-Mobile UK one is like before venturing into that area though.
Andre
andrewilley, mate ive done a hard reset..and also deleted a film of my mini SD card..since then there has not been any random reboots
First post so be gentle.
New to my MDA Vario with a 2 Gig card.
Random reboots have caused me to search for answers.
This link may have some answers.... http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=112638
I have tried the fix and will see what happens.
thanks for the info-i tried that activesync fix but still had 2 futher reboots today :x
Have called tmob, im waiting for them to call me back now :arrow:
a bit of googling and i found it seems the problem is quite common-
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=235270&st=0
i noticed, today the rebooting has been really frequent and its the first time in ages i actually got sined into msn messenger-(albeit for 15 minutes before "unexpected error":roll: ) just wondering if maybe the 2 things are connected in any way?
also havent activesynced for a couple of days
seems theres a new tmob uk rom out very soon-hope tis fixes this very annoying problem
dmonik, Good find mate, I noticed that mine restarts when ive put a large film on the Mini SD Card
dmonik said:
a bit of googling and i found it seems the problem is quite common-
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=235270&st=0
i noticed, today the rebooting has been really frequent and its the first time in ages i actually got sined into msn messenger-(albeit for 15 minutes before "unexpected error":roll: ) just wondering if maybe the 2 things are connected in any way?
also havent activesynced for a couple of days
seems theres a new tmob uk rom out very soon-hope tis fixes this very annoying problem
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I've tried the Activesync fake server trick from that thread, seems to help in some ways. But, I've found that if you cold boot or soft-reset, then the AS schedule returns to how it was before the change, so you have to do it again.

Occasional freeze problem

I recently got a Touch Dual/Niki and from time to time when being in standby (the screen turned off) it doesn't respond on any button press, nor does it react when trying to call it, I've got it back up and running only by removing the battery, setting it back and then I can turn on the device again.
I haven't really customized anything and the only 3rd party software that I know that have been running at the time are gmail client and/or live messenger
Anyone else experienced the same problems? ..does this seem like some software bug, or is my hardware faulty?
Rom: 1.31.414.02
Rom date: 11/02/07
Radio version: 1.58.16.27
Protocol version: 25.61.30.03H
Operator Saunalahti/Finland
same problem here!
I'd guess hardware, but just to be safe, you should probably do a hard reset and see if that helps. I had a problem with mine where it would lose random amounts of time every once in a while (the clock would be completly wrong) and the screen would become completely unresponsive for over a minute just after I rebooted the phone. At one point, it just decided it didn't want to boot and just got stuck on the WM loading screen, even after multiple hard resets. I replaced the device and the new one works perfectly.
yup, me too.. happened today after i finished a call. i just left the thing alone for a bit & was ok later
ok, just did the hard reset, if it happens again I'll go replace it
Lord of the Badgers said:
yup, me too.. happened today after i finished a call. i just left the thing alone for a bit & was ok later
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same here. at the moment I try to live with that, although it's rather annoying. happens 3 to 4 times a day. no response to touchscreen or buttons, but touching the screen makes the backlight going from dimmed to bright. (you know, after quite a while being idle, it dims and after another while it goes to standby)
about half a minute later it's back and executes some (or all) of the inputs at once.
I use some third party programs and tools, but nothing which diggs deep in the system (except AEButton+). So maybe it's one of them. Also I use scheduled IMAP synchronization, which may also play a part in this.
Any one-fits-all solution is deeply appreciated. (Not very impressive to show a frozen device...)
Cheers,
jekk
Ok, it just happened again.. I'll go complain to service.
Same thing here... happens whenever it feels like it. I thought it may have been one of my apps.... particularly Photo Contacts Pro as every now and then that does some strange things, but interesting to know this happens to others as well.
yeah
just happened to me again as well
any solutions?
*bump*
Currently I wonder whether this is a hardware or software issue. So some questions:
did someone flash the problem away?
did someone hard-reset the problem away?
did someone device-replace the problem away?
This would be helpful.
Cheers,
jekk.
Flashed my niki.
I'm getting very regular freeze up's on browsing the internet with a 3G connection. I'm waiting for a new ROM to arrive to determine if the problem is software/hardware (unless both ROM's use the same base Rom )
My old prophet had an easy accesible reset button, unfortunately I have to remove the batterycap now and I have a feeling the mechanisme won't hold for 2 years if I open it every day a couple times.
FWIW, my device is currently sent in for service, I'll report back with the outcome when I eventually get a device back..
Isn't it just brilliant, after a week of "service", they tell me freely translated: "No problem found. Device reset. (Might it be the standby mode from which the device wakes up by pressing the power button?)"
Of course they did not bother to call me to ask for further clarification... Now I'll have to wait until it arrives back at the shop where I sent it in so I can go and send it back..
Oh the joy!
Same freeze problem
Hi guys
I' have same freeze probleme on my niki, i made hard reset without solving nothing.Only solution remove battery and restart.
In my case it always happens while system is in stand by so my phone goes offline and i havent any advice.
Last mornig after a night recharge a foud my niki completely uncharged with red led.I have ordered a new battery hoping the problem may be in my battery.
I had the same problem. Sometimes it wouldn't wake up when I pressed the powerbutton.
Last thursday I flashed my device with Tom Codon's ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364335
I haven't got the problem since
I had never experienced any freezing problems with my niki until yesterday, when I first started using my new 8gb sdhc microsd card. Now it has happened three times! Is it possible that the driver is to blame? We know older devices had some perculiar issues with external storage upon wakeup.
For clarity; I have a 16-key niki from orange using the stock rom and the card is an sandisk class 4.
Let me know if you guys have a similiar setup.
SMYKUL said:
I had never experienced any freezing problems with my niki until yesterday, when I first started using my new 8gb sdhc microsd card. Now it has happened three times! Is it possible that the driver is to blame? We know older devices had some perculiar issues with external storage upon wakeup.
For clarity; I have a 16-key niki from orange using the stock rom and the card is an sandisk class 4.
Let me know if you guys have a similiar setup.
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I've just hard reset mine .... now seems stable ... before it was freezing every time I tried to use it.
So now I have no SD installed + no apps.
Before
SD with very few apps
Sprite backup HTC version
Informant previuos version
Flex Mail 2007
Copilot 6
Fsecure from Tmobile customisation
So I am thinking SD compatability may have been my issue ... I only had a 2GB Sandisk Premier. Will try a 1GB later
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[...] until yesterday, when I first started using my new 8gb sdhc microsd card.
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That's interesting... I am also using a (4gb) micro sd card. Maybe this really is the reason for the freezes. hard resets (2 till now) didn't solve the problem for me and I have not tried flashing a new rom yet. so this goes well with the possibility of a misbehaving driver thing.
As I wrote I only had freeze up's during browsing the www. After reading that there might be a sd-card driver problem I changed all IE temp directories back from the storage card to the device itself and I now can browse uninterrupted. So it seems that there is a slight driver issue.
Ralph
Changing SD card semed to fix things for me ..... at least for th last few days.
Before I swapped card I had constant problems

HD2 Freezing Problem among others!

1- Hello guys, I have an T-Mobile USA HD2. I love it but it freezes like crazy, 2-3 times a day if not more. I ran Task 29 to delete every possible trail of previous roms followed by a hard reset but nothing. It will still freeze.
2- I also have a lot of signal problems. Its constantly changing from 3G to Edge on the same location. I know that is not normal so I spoke to T-Mobile and they changed the SIM card but it will still change the signal back and forth. I re-flashed couple of radios but nothing, I only accomplished to drain more battery.
3- BSB Tweaks is an awesome app but there are issues with the Rotation Option. If I enable Rotation to the "Start" -> "home screen" the photo album and music will be affected because the already come with landscape support. I tried to disable the landscape support for these using a registry editor but did not find a way.
Is there any solutions for these problems? Any help will be very much appreciated, not only from be but as well from others with the same or similar problems. Thanks in advance to all of you.
Note: I noticed the recently released TMUSA HD2s come with a yellow reset button. I bought my back on March when they sold out Nation wide with in the firs 4 hours and it comes with a RED reset button. This might explain a lot. If you know something please share. Thanks!
I would like to know if there is help for freezing issue.
I also did Task 29, flashed few different radios, few different roms incoluding stock, and it still happens. If my phone freezes I have to try for 20 minutes to restart it, as it hangs everywhere starting with bootloader, to manila.
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!
I had a similar issue as well and it turned out to be a cab file I had installed that was not compatible for my ROM. I had to go through and isolate which cab it was by using the date it was added and when I noticed the issues.
When your phones freeze....does it do it radomly or while trying to access or carry out anything specific. Your problem could be caused by any number of reasons but giving as much detail regarding your problem keeps you from getting so frustrated trying all sorts of fixes. Out of curiosity what ROM's are you both currently running?
I am currently using Elegancia ROM from August 23. Before I was using Energy ROM. I tried newest, stock Rom for T-Mobile HD2 but it didn't solve the issue.
I tried reinstalling HSPL, but it didn't help either.
The problem started after I put Ubuntu 0.2 on my sd card. I was playing with it for a little and it suddenly rebooted my HD2. I though, OK, no big deal, it's just in infant stage.
So I booted Windows again (energy rom with 2.12 radio) but it hanged while Sense was loading. I wasn't able to get it back to life after few reboots so I did a hard reset (vol up/down power on) It worked fine.
My problem mostly happens when I run android and when it reboots for some reason I can't get back to windows. It hangs, sometimes it hangs on bootloader before it even shows me radio and data version!! sometimes it goes past bootloader and hangs right after sense launches, and sometimes it is perfectly fine.
It also seems that when I just use WinMo it is fine, I can power down, and soft reset without major issues. But after running android I get that issues, especially when Android crushes.
I am thinking that android may be corrupting some WinMo files, but how is that possible? Android doesn't have access to NAND so technically it shouldn't prevent WinMo from booting on bootloader level.
Please let me know if you need me to explain more.
Thanks for your help
KML
PS. I don't have any custom cabs installed at this point. I have super fresh and clean installation of elegancia rom
Yeah...Android may be the culprit. I have shyed away from trying it because I have talked to quite a few people (not on XDA) that have tried it on the HD2 and they have the same issues. The Android OS really makes the HD2 unstable. I personally am going to hold off on the Android bandwagon until a little more time passes, after all WinMo works just fine for me. Try just running on WinMo and see what happens. Based on what you have said, it runs fine as long as you are not using Android
yeah, it's is good idea to stay away for some time. But Android development needs testers. If no one is willing to test than there will be no improvement.
What I can't understand is that even after I do hard reset I still get freezes.
kml.krk said:
yeah, it's is good idea to stay away for some time. But Android development needs testers. If no one is willing to test than there will be no improvement.
What I can't understand is that even after I do hard reset I still get freezes.
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Yeah I agree with you on Android development needing testers. I do rely on my phone a lot for work purposes and I can't always afford to have the phone freezing up constantly.
Are you hard re-setting with the Android OS still installed?
Technically it is still installed but it is only present on the SD Card, and not anywhere else so it shouldn't matter. Next time I get freeze I will try to remove SD Card before hard resetting.
I tried booting few times with SD Card taken out, but it didn't help.
KML
I have the same issue...i'm using energy rom and i noticed that lately its freezing like hell...at least twice a day...!! NRGZ already notice the freezing issue and is trying to solve it...but it still crashes. I'm constantly changing the rom as he updates...and right now i'm running the August 25.
Sometimes it crashes while being turned off...and i need to take the battery off to restart.
I had the same issue,all i did loaded a diff rom and formatted my sim card problem solved
I did format my SD Card many times. Did not help. I used recommended FAT32.
Yesterday my phone froze when I was trying to add program shortcut to Sense... silly.
I rebooted phone, it booted fine, but hang as soon as I went to check my TXT messages. Rebooted again and it is working fine until now.
I currently have Elegancia ROM with 2.12.50 radio, have not been using android for couple of days, but it is still there on my SD Card.
It is getting a bit frustrating. I wonder what else I can try to make it stop freezing.
KML
My phone rebooted again yesterday.
I couldn't boot to windows for the next 20 minutes... I tried about 10 times before it worked. 2 or 3 times it booted windows and froze as soon as I clicked on one of sense tabs.
I haven't played with Android for past week and the freezing problem is still an issue. I even removed andorid form my SD Card.
When all this happened I was just using skyfire to browse internet.
I am hopeless at this point. I have no idea what else I could try to make it stop rebooting and freeezing.
Any ideas?? I would greatly appreciate any help.
PS. I recently found a thread about a tool that searches for corrupt files on Android devices after clean flash, is there something similar available for WinMo?
Here is the thread I am talking about:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/fixflash-rom-flash-verify-and-repair-tool/
screen doesn't respond to touch
I just started having this issue today. I have used darkstones most recent build from the 18th. it has worked perfectly till today. I use energy roms. i just installed a older rom today still have the same problem. this problem appears weither in droid or winmo. All the hard keys still function and the phone can receive calls. Thanks for any help you may be to lend.
my phone just froze again.
All I did was take it out of my pocket and unlock screen, and there it is: FREEZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Funny thing is that Android doesn't freeze for me... it crashes sometimes, but never freezes. It is only WinMo that freezes on me or doesn't boot. Android always boots.
I really wish the NAND was accessible so I could flash Android to NAND and forget about WinMo
kml.krk said:
I really wish the NAND was accessible so I could flash Android to NAND and forget about WinMo
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you, me and 17,000+ HD2 owners are all wishing for that exact thing
Your issue with the freezing/rebooting is stumping me too. You've flashed different ROM's, including stock, done hard resets, checked the battery pins, reformatted the SD card and even tried running the phone without the SD card inserted...do I have all that right? The fact that it doesn't show the symptoms when running Android just makes it that much more mysterious. I'd say it all points to a hardware issue, but if it doesn't act that way when you're in Android, that (probably) shoots that theory out of the water. But, at the same time, running task 29 and reflashing different ROM's should also have eliminated any possible software-based causes, so....
the only thing that comes to my mind is micro SIM card. I did an upgrade on my ATT account to get iPhone (traded for HD2) and those fu...ers at ATT wouldn't let me keep my regular sized SIM card. I had to use my old SIM card and cut it's inside to place micro sim in it. I used a regular sied SIM to hold micro SIM in place.
I don't think however that this is a problem because I believe my phone froze few times before I did that SIM card swap besides, I have no issues with phone calls or reception both in Android or WinMo.
I am clueless at this point.
I just got another Android version and will try it to see how it works. If I have any problems I will try using my wive's SIM card to see if it helps with freezing and WinMo booting.
KML
EDIT: ANDROID just rebooted itself. 2 minutes after clean installation. geee, I am leaning towards Hardware being the issue.
What I did is:
1. open browser
2. go to google
3. search for speedtest
4. open speedtest.net
and Android rebooted itself and now my phone can't go past Tmobile bootloader logo (pink square with 'stick together' letters)
I will put different SIM inside now and try everything again
kml.krk said:
the only thing that comes to my mind is micro SIM card. I did an upgrade on my ATT account to get iPhone (traded for HD2) and those fu...ers at ATT wouldn't let me keep my regular sized SIM card. I had to use my old SIM card and cut it's inside to place micro sim in it. I used a regular sied SIM to hold micro SIM in place.
I don't think however that this is a problem because I believe my phone froze few times before I did that SIM card swap besides, I have no issues with phone calls or reception both in Android or WinMo.
I am clueless at this point.
I just got another Android version and will try it to see how it works. If I have any problems I will try using my wive's SIM card to see if it helps with freezing and WinMo booting.
KML
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Good call, that's about the only other thing to try. However....have you tried running WM with sense disabled, to see if it still has the freezing/rebooting issues? That might at least narrow the problem down to something sense-related (which is easily the most common cause of any software-related issue on this phone)
sirphunkee said:
Good call, that's about the only other thing to try. However....have you tried running WM with sense disabled, to see if it still has the freezing/rebooting issues? That might at least narrow the problem down to something sense-related (which is easily the most common cause of any software-related issue on this phone)
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I have NOT tried that but I will. The problem is that I often can't get past bootloader logo...
I modified my post above so please read it (I mentioned Android crashing)
thanks for all your suggestions
I just tried different SIM card. Phone booted fine to WinMo, and froze as soon as I clicked on Messaging tab in sense.
I will try to disable Sense for now.
I disabled Sense, rebooted WinMo launched Android repeated operation of trying to get to speedtest. Site launched, but phone rebooted after a while.
I am getting to conclusion that some software including flash causes my phone to reboot and then I can't get it to boot again..
Right now my phone is stuck again on bootloader. I already tried rebooting twice.
What I noticed is that every time my phone freezes it gets a little warmer in the lower left corner
What hardware is located in that area?

HD2 - Latest Firmware update [HORRIBLE]

My 2 months old hd2 behaving very oddly after latest firmware update from T-mobile site.
Problems.
1. Tries to register to the tower every minute , can notice the ... near the signal bar.
2. Time doesnot get synced.
3. No calls recieved for 3 days, had 7 voice mails from friens screaming. No notification on the phone.
Taken it to the store,
1. They tried a new sim card, no use.
2. Master reset no use.
Store called the cusotmer care.
1. They would not put accross to the tech support because need to wait 2 hrs after replacing new sim card. What a b... (really controlling myself not to write nonsense here.)
2. Store guy tried to convience the customer care for 1 hour just to transfer line to tech support . no sucess . Ordered new phone for replacment. So no phone for me till they ship the new one.
Bought HD2 , believing windows 7 will be released soon , believe microsoft fired the top guy who running the programme.
Question.
1. How do i come out of the t-mobile contract.
2. can i switch to andriod or even stupid iphone.
I been having cell phone for the past 7-8 years , first time in life without phone for a week.
wondering HD2 dumb phone or dumb tmobile or me -dumb for chosing t-mobile ???
I would suggest you try either flashing back to the previous T-Mobile stock ROM, or to a different radio, that will probably make a big difference in your reception.
Also, did you do a hard reset immediately after flashing to the new ROM?
T-Mobile gives a 14-day buyer's remorse period to be able to return the phone, but you're obviously past that now, so the only way to get out of the contract is to pay the ETF (early term. fee).
As far as the iphone, you would have to buy one elsewhere and get it unlocked to work on T-Mobile's network, and even then you wouldn't get 3G on it.
->not sure what happened in the store , now my battery will not charge, if i pull my power card, it says main batter low and dies off.
I would suggest you try either flashing back to the previous T-Mobile stock ROM, or to a different radio, that will probably make a big difference in your reception.
Also, did you do a hard reset immediately after flashing to the new ROM?
--> I did not do that , not sure if it was mentioned on the site.
senthilvv28 said:
->not sure what happened in the store , now my battery will not charge, if i pull my power card, it says main batter low and dies off..
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check for bent battery pins.
What firmware update? Has there been one in the last two months?
Phantoms said:
What firmware update? Has there been one in the last two months?
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I'm assuming he's talking about the 2.13 ROM.
senthilvv28 said:
->not sure what happened in the store , now my battery will not charge, if i pull my power card, it says main batter low and dies off.
I would suggest you try either flashing back to the previous T-Mobile stock ROM, or to a different radio, that will probably make a big difference in your reception.
Also, did you do a hard reset immediately after flashing to the new ROM?
--> I did not do that , not sure if it was mentioned on the site.
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I would first check the battery pins like samsamuel suggested, that might be the source of your batt issue now.
Then, I would first try a hard-reset as a fix for your original problems, and if that doesn't work then try a different radio.
I would just flash a custom rom to it. I use Kumars classic rom and my phones bullet proof. I don't ever need to reset or ever reboot it. I did find one bug and that was that the file explorer extenerder cab would hand if you tried to close it in task manager. So I just intal it if I need it which isnt' very often.
Sorry for the delayed reply.
The battery pin is bent, waiting for T-mobile to ship the new phone.
Hopefully will install the custom rom and let you guys know.
Thanks for your help.
senthilvv28 said:
Sorry for the delayed reply.
The battery pin is bent, waiting for T-mobile to ship the new phone.
Hopefully will install the custom rom and let you guys know.
Thanks for your help.
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Give the stock 2.13 a try with class 6 (or class 4 minimum) microsd card...I was all about custom ROM's with my android phone but I've had the HD2 for almost 3 months now and I have yet to try and flash a custom ROM. Why? Because the stock works really well. I've never gone this long without flashing a custom ROM...
I love my HD2. iPhone is not as good.
2.13. SUCKS!!!
Just wanted to let you know that ur lucky because since the update of 2.13 I've been having to restart my phone very often. I noticed before the update that when tring to send a message while receiveing one that my phone would freeze within the message screen. Now after the update no matter what once i'm receiving a message my whole phone freezes. It's a pain in the ass and tmobile programming team sucks!!!! Can someone please stare me in the direction of a good rom that I won't have this issue with and which is fast!!!! PLEASE!
having the same problem here,my answer was going back to stock and then i flashed an energy rom it freezes some times but not as often once or twice day
Pollirox79 said:
having the same problem here,my answer was going back to stock and then i flashed an energy rom it freezes some times but not as often once or twice day
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I have had Energy Rom (the "Unstable" ver) for months now and NEVER locked up. I have had to reboot the phone like once a week if it starts acting a little odd, but NEVER locked up. If your locking up this often, get a new phone under warrantee ASAP!
Gsm Elite Rom
Try my Gsm Elite Rom.
I will post on my site in about 1 hour 30 minutes.
(Just a cooked 2.13 rom with some fixes and demo games removed, mobil tv removed, ereader removed, etc.)
Runs solid.
Link to my site is in the signature,

[POSSIBLE FIX] Random Rebooting! Grr

***EDIT***
Well it would seem like my random reboots have gone away. Thanks to Tubgirl for the suggestion, but using Hastarin's 7.5R kernel with NO overclocking, AXI etc, it's finally stable once again.
In fact, I used that kernel with Darkstone's latest 3.2 build and the battery is crazy. I am getting approximately 7 hours of battery life for every 10% of the battery. That's with BT, data and all syncing turned on and basic use. That's around 3 days of life for a light user. Didn't even get that with winmo!
So for me - the moral of the story is stick to the clean, non overclocked kernels. As for speed, I cannot tell the difference (I don't play any games to be fair though).
***END***
For some strange reason, my phone randomly reboots at completely bizarre intervals when running Android. I can't put my finger on what it might be. So some questions!
- Does anyone else experience this?
- I'm running VBN RC3 Minimal WM ROM, might it be this?
- I'm running the 2.14 Radio is it this?
- I'm running mostly Mdeejay builds could it be them (happens with all of the one's I've tried)?
- Is it likely to be piece of android software?
- Is there any way I can find a log to see why it's rebooted?
Random Reboots
I have been experiencing this problem for about a month now. I have tried numerous roms and android combinations, as well as changed radios. The problem still returns no matter what combination I try. So I'm kind of
Could be a problem with your battery. Try replacing it.
Sent from my HD2 using XDA App
i had same problem.. what i did was fully drain my battery, than recharged it fully on off mode, with cable plugged in turned it on that charged again till i saw green LED light
since than it worked nicely no random boot
give it a shot id say
cheers
My HD2 has never done it, but my mates has.
He contacted HTC on Thursday and they are repairing it under warranty.
It is a well known issue that affected around 3000 handsets in the UK apparently. They call it the "heat related reboot", and it involves replacing the motherboard and another component.
His has gone back, they sent a courier to collect it..
Mine has been randomly rebooting for about 2 weeks now.
It usually happens once a day when running Winmo or Android. Sometimes when it reboots I get a rectangular box across the bottom of the screen for about a second. I dont know if this is caused by the Radio Rom update or it is just coincidence.
I have swapped the battery but it has made no difference.
It's driving me mad.
deadey3 said:
i had same problem.. what i did was fully drain my battery, than recharged it fully on off mode, with cable plugged in turned it on that charged again till i saw green LED light
since than it worked nicely no random boot
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Thank you I will try this first!
stratplayer said:
My HD2 has never done it, but my mates has.
He contacted HTC on Thursday and they are repairing it under warranty.
It is a well known issue that affected around 3000 handsets in the UK apparently. They call it the "heat related reboot", and it involves replacing the motherboard and another component.
His has gone back, they sent a courier to collect it..
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I have sent them an e-mail describing my issue, quoting you I will see what they say. Hopefully they will sort it soon because my first year of warranty expires in one month!
Oh also, if I send it back for warranty, I suppose I'll need to revert it back to the 02 defaults and remove all traces of HSPL! Is this possible?
i have this problem too, under android and wm. Still testing to find out hwats causing it but looks more and more a heat issue, eventhough it does not heat that much.
unfortunately dont have warranty so not sure what i can do.
when i have an audio or video stream, or navigator thats when it happens mostly. but i had random reboots as well for no reason.
is there something on WM we can use to find out whats making it reboot?
i get this issue every once in a while when i go to sleep and wake up and its booted up in windows? its happened about 2 or three times but doesn't happen every day.
Me too!
I'm also experiensing this. It started just when the whole android hd2 thing started. I have this problem no matter what radio/rom I'm using (except from stock). Reboots in win. Android gives SOD/reboots. I've tried some reasearching in to this and found out that when I flash back to original rom/radio it's stable. Between every flash i do Task29.
I've tried different memory cards and even swapped the battery with a collegue.
Still the same. Funny thing if it suddenly are many people experiensing this problem..
Could it have something to do with android experiments?
Bad thing is that it would be difficult to send it in for repair since it's working with original rom/radio.
You should all try to flash a stock radio and rom to see if it still reboots.. Mine don't..
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Oh also, if I send it back for warranty, I suppose I'll need to revert it back to the 02 defaults and remove all traces of HSPL! Is this possible?
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Yea there is way, google "how to remove HSPL" eventually it will bring u to xda thread and if ur not sure YouTube it there is heaps of floating around
jonboyuk said:
For some strange reason, my phone randomly reboots at completely bizarre intervals when running Android. I can't put my finger on what it might be. So some questions!
- Does anyone else experience this?
- I'm running VBN RC3 Minimal WM ROM, might it be this?
- I'm running the 2.14 Radio is it this?
- I'm running mostly Mdeejay builds could it be them (happens with all of the one's I've tried)?
- Is it likely to be piece of android software?
- Is there any way I can find a log to see why it's rebooted?
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I use the same VBN ROM but this build [build]20.09.10||JDMS 1.3|FRF91 Latest Stable Nightly||RC11 WITH AXIS! and Radio 2.12. I dont have any problem (reboot, sleep of dead, no robot voice...)
I switched to the latest hyperdroid v1.6 and have not had this problem yet although It did happen to me a lot when I was running different builds (cant remember which ones sry) Try switching builds and also make sure you turn everything off in WM like bsb tweaks and radio all that stuff. Its weird but it helps considering that everything gets turned off when u hit clrcad.exe anyways but it has helped the stability of my builds.
Alot of us seems to get these reebots in win also...
I wonder if it's got anything to do with the overclocking with setcpu? Hmmmm....
i had this exact same issue , bought phone of eBay so had no proof if purchase . phoned htc they said its 100% covered under warranty , they had it back for repair for 5 working days . they also replaced the external casing as it had a few chips from a drop , they pretty much returned a brand new phone apart from the serial number sticker tomtom no longer recognised the device id so i had to reactivate my maps , so they have at least replaced the mainboard . top customer service ! give them a ring its worth a try they can only say no
herukano said:
i had this exact same issue , bought phone of eBay so had no proof if purchase . phoned htc they said its 100% covered under warranty , they had it back for repair for 5 working days . they also replaced the external casing as it had a few chips from a drop , they pretty much returned a brand new phone apart from the serial number sticker tomtom no longer recognised the device id so i had to reactivate my maps , so they have at least replaced the mainboard . top customer service ! give them a ring its worth a try they can only say no
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nice is there a way to check warranty online? i also bought it from ebay? where you located?
i'm also experiencing this random reboot phenomenon.. happened only after i started experimenting with Android on my HD2.. now the reboot issue happens with WinMo as well.. i've been using the same radio, ROM and same builds..
btw, since jonboyuk mentioned it, i did play around with "setcpu".. could this be the culprit??
Hello..
I've noticed that my HD2 also reboots sometimes in Android. I haven't used WM for a long, so I really don't know if it also reboots in WM. My question is though, is this a hardware issue? Never had this sorts of reboots before starting this Android @ HD2 game. An answer (or just a thought) to this question, will help me, since I have to send my HD2 for a repair tomorrow, cause the microUSB slot is broke. But if the reboot issue is a hardware fault, then I should also report that, to the repair center.
Thanks.

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