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TouchFlo For HTC tytn/Hermes

How To make it Work and DoeZ it Work on Wm5 or do i neeD To upDate

defcomg said:
How To make it Work and DoeZ it Work on Wm5 or do i neeD To upDate
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go to hermes forum and look at the wm 6 forum and just search!!!!!

As yet, there is no real TouchFLO successfully ported to Hermes. The nearest you can get so far is ButtonFLO from WM6 ROM like that from Dutty. Then add Efrost FTouchFLO. I have that set up on my JASJAM and its far from bug-free but it is quite fun using it.

UK O2 ROM - How many people switched to a cooked one?

Guys, just wondering, I can't find anything conclusive over how many people have actually moved away from the UK O2 ROM to a cooked one. Can anyone who has made the jump tell me if there was a noticeable difference and what ROM you used. Also, were they functional for everyday use?

I will be moving to a cooked ROM later, but for the time being I have gone from the o2 rom to the HTC one on the FTP.
I'm happier with it. All the HTC stuff that o2 seem to uninstall (because they are losers) is there without any need to install it all yourself.

I can't see any reason to change as yet unless there is a good cooked rom a la meschle's Touch 4.0.

Likewise, I'll be moving to a cooked rom, but am waiting for someone to make the leap first!
Any reports (successful or otherwise) will be great!

Hey guys
I've been running Bepe's 6.1 preview for the last week. To be honest, the only improvement is the threaded messaging.
I found the o2 rom quite good, but if there's something to flash I'll always give it a go. By the time you've added all your own apps it really doesn't make a huge difference.
App wise I'm running:
Vistahide battery gauge
Samsung time
o2 plus2.3 - with shortcuts & diary enabled
Spb pocket suite
Not that that has anything to do with the rom!?!
Has anyone over here tried upgrading the radio to 1.58.25.14?
Jamie

I'm still on the o2 rom, with:
PocketRAR
ClearTemp
Schap's Advanced Configuration Tool
HTC Home plugin
Home Customizer
WkTask (I really like the battery meeter along the top and the task buttons)
Until a stable WinMo 6.1 rom comes out with everything I'll stick with the o2 rom.
Why they removed the HTC home I'll never know

jamiee said:
Has anyone over here tried upgrading the radio to 1.58.25.14?
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Me, but have not noticed any difference.

I think we should start a campaign to get meschle to defect to polaris. I have already donated to towards this campaign. We would need to set up a new thread and link it to the artemis wm6 thread.

The biggest problem with the O2 ROM is that tweaks don't work. You can change a registry value and after a soft-reset it will go back to the original value. Annoying!

That's why I use that tweaking tool, it actually sets the values. Although it's not as exansive as a registry

i'm in the US using a UK Orbit 2 and i've been running the .53 version of bepe's WM 6.1 ROM. aside from the improved responsiveness and threaded messaging, you start out with 140MB of available storage and 69MB of available RAM. with all my programs loaded, i have 85 MB available, which is important to me. with the stock ROM, i started off with 89MB available before loading my standard set of apps. i've held off using newer versions because i'm happy with what i have and how it's working so far.

nickbro said:
That's why I use that tweaking tool, it actually sets the values. Although it's not as exansive as a registry
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What tweaking tool? The Kaiser one? I thought that messed peoples device up.

Don't see why I would want to flash for the time being.
To me, flashing a rom is so that I don't need to spend so much time configuring the device (because everything is pre-configured in cooked roms). And as there ain't many changes to the current cooked roms, it is quicker to configure the device than to mess with flashing.

MrSmith22 said:
Guys, just wondering, I can't find anything conclusive over how many people have actually moved away from the UK O2 ROM to a cooked one. Can anyone who has made the jump tell me if there was a noticeable difference and what ROM you used. Also, were they functional for everyday use?
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You'll never find the best ROM suited to your specific taste unless you try 'em all. Me? i'm totally sold out with Panosha's Butterfly ROM but at the moment am testing Bepe's v0.56 Full, and so far, liking it too! Cooked ROM's are always way faster and more responsive than the shipped one's.

Manila on tytnII

Hi. I am brand new to this site and have been reading for 3 hrs now. i have found a lot but still unsure how to solve my issue and get the right software.
i am hoping an experienced member can help me quickly.
I have a TYTN II and would like to get Touch Flo 2 (Manilla) on it. Thus I have 3 questions:
1. I want to upgrade to WM 6.1. Do I do that upgrade first via the HTC web site? Or does the manila upgrade include WM 6.1?
2. Does the installation of manilla include the OS or it is just as simple as installing a program?
3. Can u please point me in the direction of the latest stable version of Manila for the TYTN II without any fancy skins. I want the original skin.
4. And finally, i have an older MDA running WM5. Will manila work on it? Or is this asking too much?
Many Many thanks in advance !!

ronald_adi said:
Hi. I am brand new to this site and have been reading for 3 hrs now. i have found a lot but still unsure how to solve my issue and get the right software.
i am hoping an experienced member can help me quickly.
I have a TYTN II and would like to get Touch Flo 2 (Manilla) on it. Thus I have 3 questions:
1. I want to upgrade to WM 6.1. Do I do that upgrade first via the HTC web site? Or does the manila upgrade include WM 6.1?
2. Does the installation of manilla include the OS or it is just as simple as installing a program?
3. Can u please point me in the direction of the latest stable version of Manila for the TYTN II without any fancy skins. I want the original skin.
4. And finally, i have an older MDA running WM5. Will manila work on it? Or is this asking too much?
Many Many thanks in advance !!
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1. You'll have to get it through the official HTC site.
2. Manilla is a 'skin' that sits on top of wm6.1, refer to the various threads for install instructions.
3. Currently release 19b, but be aware its no where near 'complete' - it functions but no way i could use it daily on my TyTnII.
4. Maybe. Probably not. Try it and let us know.

ronald_adi said:
Hi. I am brand new to this site and have been reading for 3 hrs now. i have found a lot but still unsure how to solve my issue and get the right software.
i am hoping an experienced member can help me quickly.
I have a TYTN II and would like to get Touch Flo 2 (Manilla) on it. Thus I have 3 questions:
1. I want to upgrade to WM 6.1. Do I do that upgrade first via the HTC web site? Or does the manila upgrade include WM 6.1?
2. Does the installation of manilla include the OS or it is just as simple as installing a program?
3. Can u please point me in the direction of the latest stable version of Manila for the TYTN II without any fancy skins. I want the original skin.
4. And finally, i have an older MDA running WM5. Will manila work on it? Or is this asking too much?
Many Many thanks in advance !!
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yes it works with TYTN II (also called kaiser) actualy it works 100% with some of the cooked roms you find in the Kaiser forum. and it's perfectly capable of day to day use. if release 19b is not usefull for day to day use then go for a cooked rom because all of them are perfect for day to day use.
I've been runing manila 2d on all my devices for weeks without any problems.

ok thanks mate !

Problem could have easily been answered / solved by reading. Closing thread.

Need to know basic about customizations

I'm about to buy an Elfin this Sunday, and after some googling, I want to clear some things up.
1. What is Manilla2D?
2. Should I install Onyx as soon as I get my phone, or should I wait?
3. What's the difference between TouchFLO2D and TouchFLO3D?
4. Is it possible to 'install' TouchFLO3D to an HTC Touch P3452?

cyanide911 said:
I'm about to buy an Elfin this Sunday, and after some googling, I want to clear some things up.
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1. What is Manilla2D?
It is a theme which comes with most WM6.1 roms, search this section to get more skins http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=260&order=desc
2. Should I install Onyx as soon as I get my phone, or should I wait?
You should read first a lot, Onyx WM 6.5 doesn't have Manilla, WM 6.1 yes,and especially how to flash in the stickies here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=374
3. What's the difference between TouchFLO2D and TouchFLO3D?
Elfin doesn't support TouchFLO3D
4. Is it possible to 'install' TouchFLO3D to an HTC Touch P3452?
Answer above
Enjoy Your Device

Manilla2D = the Diamond Style.
3D= The Cube, 3D Touch Style.

argh double post

Manilla2D is basically a downsized version of Manilla3D.
and by the way, if you are looking for the HTC touch cube, its not longer available at any other phones, except for the touch and the dual.
More info about Manilla2D avail here
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=Nqb&q=htc+touchflo+2d&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g:s4

@jeremy: Wait, from your link to google, I take that you mean mean Manilla2D is the same has TouchFLO2D. But tito12 says it's a 'theme'.
And does the HTC Touch P3452 have TouchFLO2D?

Manilla2D(M2D) is TouchFlo2D!
Nonono!
M2D has different themes for you to choose, and the themes is developed by our xda-developers community.
HTC Touch P3452 dafault handset does not have M2D, you have to upgrade to Windows Mobile 6.1 in order to enjoy M2D.
Here are a few pointers.
1) You choose to upgrade either to
- HTC Built ROM, which is their upgraded version
- Cooked Roms, which is made by people just like you and me, but they are usually more functional and practical. And Most people recommend cooked ROM as the HTC Built rom which is commonly known as stock roms, is underpowered and have too little applications. (And lags .. blabla )
One such cooked rom is Onyx and the one I am using.
Which can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426540

Yeah I read about Onyx. I'll use the stock ROM for a couple of months, and then look towards Onyx.
This is what I've understood.
Elfin with WM 6.0, neither has TouchFLO2d, nor Manilla2D. If upgraded to WM 6.1, it will have Manilla2D, but it still wont have TouchFLO2D. To get TouchFLO 2D, we have to install a separate thing. And Elfin doesn't supportd TouchFlo3D.
Am I right? I'm confused because jeremy89632 says M2D has different themes available, and tito12 says M2D is a theme.
EDIT: Here, Is this the actual interface of an Elfin with WM6.1?

Hi Cyanide
I should have used "interface" instead of "theme", and this interface can be skinned, there are many on developpement and hacks section.

Okay, so Manilla2D is an interface that comes with WM6.1 for the Elfin? And,here, Is this the actual interface of an Elfin with WM6.1?

Yes, manilla2d is touchflo2d.

Okay thanks a lot for the help
This is slightly off topic, but I just want to ask all the Elfin/Elf users here, how do you guys like your phone? Would you recommend it?
EDIT: Also, I read another thread 'http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=531260' in which the guy's phone turned out to be fake. Since I'm buying a used one, what all should I check before purchasing it to ensure it's authentic HTC?

I'd just like to point out that I'm going to buy the phone tomorrow, so I need an answer for this (my last post) asap
Also, I read another thread 'http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=531260' in which the guy's phone turned out to be fake. Since I'm buying a used one, what all should I check before purchasing it to ensure it's authentic HTC?
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Search forum for this keywords and you'll get many answers
" chinese elf clone "

Tips to get a legit HTC
Buy by walking in, not online.
Get from legit sellers, like big time corps.
See if the box have HTC logos and windows mobile logos around it.
Check for warrenty.
Thats all.
Im pretty happy with my elfin, except it lags GPS.

Umm, what do you mean 'lags GPS'?

HTC Touch Elfin and Elf does not have GPS.
Or known as the global positioning system which tells you where you are.
If you want to get a GPS for your elf, you must pay around SGD100 or around US$60 or even cheaper if you get from ebay.

I know it doesn't have GPS. You wrote it 'lags' GPS, so I was wondering what you meant. You probably meant it 'lacks' GPS.

Anyways thanks a lot you all, I finally bought it.
I'm avoiding making a new thread, so here goes.
How do I format the memory card? Will simply connecting the phone to the PC in data transfer mode and formatting it from there do? Or is there some special method?

Congratulations
Just insert it and start explorer to see that it is visible

ba upgrade wm6 to 6.5

Hi can anyone please tell me how to upgrade my ba to wm 6.5 from wm 6? , i used the wizard to upgrade from wm2003 to wm6 about 2 yrs ago, any help much appreciated, love this pda and i love using it as a phone too

basicly, when your device is already upgraded, there is not much to do.
you probably don't have to worry about sim lock and radio roms and storage sizes anymore, since apparently, it all worked fine so far.
so all you need to do is download any wm6.5 rom, unpack it, and make a RUU folder, containing the rom itself (nk.nbf) and a few other files named for example maupgradeut_noid.exe and getdevicedata and so on.
then you hard reset your device by pressing camera+record+power+reset and set the menu options clear registry hive and format storage to "YES" and enable kitl to "NO" using the camera and record buttons to flip and switch, confirm that with the mail button.
then you put your device into bootloader mode by pressing reset+record+power, kill active sync, connect the device to the pc and start maupgradeut_noid. if the 2nd screen shows you at least the version of the rom you go to, you are fine and can start the upgrade.
as soon as it is finished, use the hard reset method described above to prepare the device for the first start and then you might want to use "getting started" on the device to set it up and set up sync to get your pim data back. i shortened this description as you might remember a lot of stuff, or so i hope. most of what i wrote should ring a bell, if not, please feel free to have a look in the wizard for upgrades from wm5 to wm6 -=here=- or simply ask again, what troubles you.
with best regards
Chef_Tony

hi Tony thanks 4 ure help, when u say any rom is that only those specific for ba or are they all universal? i downloaded WM65-23052 & EnergyROM_RAPHAEL_20090811_Titanium or should i stick to the ones on the ba wizard page eg r6? i guess its the latter

of course you can only use blueangel roms found in the ba wm6 section, i mean, if you have a dvd writer that can read any disk, you wouldn't shove a slice of salami in there, would you?
the roms are so far interchangable as being WWE and work with every BA worldwide, but you need a blueangel rom, because of the rom's structure, memory consumption, drivers and so on, and after all, the buttons and the display resolution.
i once had a case, where someone tried to flash a charmer rom to a ba, that rom was way too big, and also the files were completely different, so he couldn't get through with it on his own and asked, because he would have messed up his ba with that pretty bad.
so, conclusively, 23052 builds are nice, but wait, till it's coming for the BA. i think d-two is working on it, maybe you want to have a look at the 23004 german rom thread, i asked him and he is gonna make an english version too, but until then you might want to catch status updates there.

Tony thanks it worked awsome phone, i used xplodes english rom, is there much difference between that & the german one? who needs an iphone eh again many thanks will lookout for d2s new ba release cheers

with the current releases there are no major differences between d-two's and xplode's build (except for the language) but what i wrote was about the next builds, they're both working on 23047 or 23052 builds, but d-two has the advantage that he has overcome the know sync and sms bugs, so his build will probably be the first of those two to come out. although he is rather new to this forum and so far he only supported his own wm6.5 build 23004 german, that is a guy you better keep an eye on. he is making fast progress and maybe will become one of the major chefs soon.

hi again please can you tell me how to do a wm6.5 hard reset & also how to get into into bootloader mode as to reload a new rom eg d2's, also i did notice there were 2 excel icons in msoffice maybe a bug many thanks

actually i solved it myself, just gotta be quicker with the camera & record buttons cheers

Hi Tony everything on explodes exroms installed ok except jbed, is that java? Also i looked at xplodes manila thats really nice, i guess thats on the latest phones , its like a mini o/s, so u would just install that after u install a 6.5 rom?

yes, jbed is the java applet manager.
for manila, i wouldn't say it is a mini os, it is more of an alternative gui, it replaces the titanium today screen with a touchflo one, but it also just features basic functions, photo viewing, music playing and does not alter the start menu or any add-on apps, most of the functions are also available in titanium or for titanium as an add-in, let's say facebook or stuff like that.
the time to install doesn't really matter, you can also install other apps first, whatever, you only need to know that after you install it, you have to deactivate "default" in today plug-ins and also all the others, because you can have only manila as your today plugin then and then you should find a "touch to start touchflo" button on your today screen and then you'll see, whether it works or not. that really depends from user to user, and between the different devices, roms, countries and manila versions, maybe you have to try several versions before you actually find one that runs in an acceptable speed, because that seems to be the general issue when it comes to porting manila.

thanks i may just stick 2 what i have, d2,s new 6.5.1 rom is beta so would that except xplodes extrom 23004 cabs? or is it best to wait for him to put his own one out?

thanks i may just stick with what i have, D2's new rom 6.5.1 is that compatible with xplodes 23004 extrom or is it best to wait for d2 to bring his own one out?

d-two said he wanted to release one, maybe till the weekend he's done putting it together.