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Nothing to gain here except idle curiosity.
For connecting to the Internet, be that to have my mail forwarded, having programs update their information or just general surfing ~ which method do you use to connect?
Myself, even though at home I could quite easily connect to my home network or at work use the Hospital's server, I still prefer to use my Mobile Account [T-Mobile in my case].
However, I notice in several other topics that members mention they use wireless as opposed to their sim card's network.
Is there a particular reason in changing from one to the other?
I personally do not have a valid reason to opt in and out of different connection methods and simply let the machine connect to the phone network whenever it wants.
So... there's my curiosity released. Would anyone wish to share their method of choice!
Beards
I'm connected to the internet via HSDPA 24/7. Only if I need sth really fast I use my W-LAN connection.
I use HSDPA/3G when im outside. When im at home i use wifi/w-lan.
At street or office I'm connected to the internet via HSDPA, at home via Wifi or usb.
Wifi at home. HSDPA outside.
But HSDPA seems to never want to switch off even though I have a good wifi connection. Urgh.
chr5s11 said:
I'm connected to the internet via HSDPA 24/7. Only if I need sth really fast I use my W-LAN connection.
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The combination HSDPA + O² + germany = Not stable
Haven´t you noticed these HSDPA lags? They aren´t the result of bad connection, they are the result of line drop or as O² called it - sleeping connection. I have confirmations from many major german cities.
LINK (german):
Diamond= http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=132807
HD= http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=137661
O² FAQ Point 19= http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=137748
Flanders said:
The combination HSDPA + O² + germany = Not stable
Haven´t you noticed these HSDPA lags? They aren´t the result of bad connection, they are the result of line drop or as O² called it - sleeping connection. I have confirmations from many major german cities.
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I know that, but I encounter these lags only in a few areas. Where I usually go I don't have any problems at all with HSDPA. In fact I had more problems with HSDPA on my old Hermes than on my new Blackstone.
SingaporeAirlines said:
Wifi at home. HSDPA outside.
But HSDPA seems to never want to switch off even though I have a good wifi connection. Urgh.
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How could that b? when u switch on wifi, it will off the hsdpa and switch to wifi instead, isnt it? mine one does that tho. how can u use hsdpa and wifi at da same time???
Can you tell me which town or area? Here or on ppc-welt?
vosszaa said:
How could that b? when u switch on wifi, it will off the hsdpa and switch to wifi instead, isnt it? mine one does that tho. how can u use hsdpa and wifi at da same time???
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I don't know. It's a bit annoying as I don't want the HSDPA on when I am using Wifi.
SingaporeAirlines said:
I don't know. It's a bit annoying as I don't want the HSDPA on when I am using Wifi.
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HSDPA is automatically off when u turn on wifi. i think u misunderstand sumthing.
On most networks HSDPA never disconnects, so if you then go and connect to wifi the HSDPA will remain connected, just unused. You can check this with the HD's title bar icons.
Doesn't make any difference though, HSDPA being "connected" means nothing really. It's little different from your phone being on and registered to the mobile network.
Oh! thx for the info. I thought it disconnect automatically.
BTW, if u tap on the title bar as u said, u can disconnect the HSDPA directly from there!
I use Edge all the time since I'm on T-Mobile USA. In fact, I'm posting this message via Edge while I'm waiting to renew my license. I only use WiFi when I have to d/l any files. I'm pretty happy with Edge speeds where I live, commute and work.
arfster said:
On most networks HSDPA never disconnects, so if you then go and connect to wifi the HSDPA will remain connected, just unused. You can check this with the HD's title bar icons.
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Hmm. Thanks for that. I just don't want it to try and be clever and increase my wifi speed by using a bit of HSDPA on the side (and hence using up my data quota).
anyone using it with this router? how did you set it up?
my wifi works flawlessly on other routers..on this it connects then works then drops out.. i have the latest firmwae..so is there some setting im missing?
billybobjones said:
anyone using it with this router? how did you set it up?
my wifi works flawlessly on other routers..on this it connects then works then drops out.. i have the latest firmwae..so is there some setting im missing?
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I had the same with another router - a Sitecom. Connection would drop every now and again - but frequently enough to be irritating. Didn't happen on my PC, only on my PPC.
Never found a setting on the PPC, also tried every combination of security to try and work out what the problem was.
My current router works brilliantly - so reckon its router based...
i reckon the same.. so far im trying it on auto instead of b&g...working well for now. God willing it will continue to work ...
how many hours of wifi are you getting out the battery? ive been on for 4 hours about and im at 40% now?
i spoke too soon...it crapped out right after this post.
ive read others with this router with it working fine? what am i doing wrong =(
it stays connected to the wifi...it just stops recieving data?!?
Hi!
Is there a way to automatically disconnect UMTS/HSDPA data connections when using WLAN?
dadaniel said:
Hi!
Is there a way to automatically disconnect UMTS/HSDPA data connections when using WLAN?
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You realize "HSDPA" IS "UMTS", right?
Also, what's with everyone buzz wording "HSDPA"? You realize the HD2 supports just plain "HSPA", which is what you get when both "HSDPA" and "HSUPA" are implemented?
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You realize "HSDPA" IS "UMTS", right?
Also, what's with everyone buzz wording "HSDPA"? You realize the HD2 supports just plain "HSPA", which is what you get when both "HSDPA" and "HSUPA" are implemented?
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Very helpful post Spike15. I'm sure he really appreciated that. Bravo.
But you're wrong. HSDPA is NOT the same thing as UTMS. They use the same "airwaves" but are very different protocols.
Anyway, I'm not interested in discussing this with you as there is more than enough information about this on the internet. I just thought you were rude to the OP and you deserved to have it pointed out that you were wrong.
dadaniel - look for the "Touch X add 3G commmanager" cab on the cabs link in my signature. It doesn't automatically turn 3G on and off, but it allows you to do so from the Comm Manager screen. If that's where you turn your Wifi on and off, then I guess it's only 1 more click to achieve what you want.
Hope this helps
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But you're wrong. HSDPA is NOT the same thing as UTMS. They use the same "airwaves" but are very different protocols.
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"Therefore High Speed Packet Downlink Access (HSDPA) and Enhanced Dedicated Channel (E-DCH) have been introduced as new features of UMTS for Downlink and Uplink in UMTS Release 5 and Release 6, respectively."
I think it's you who is wrong...UMTS is a superset of HSPA, and therefore saying "UMTS/HSDPA" is redundant.
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"Therefore High Speed Packet Downlink Access (HSDPA) and Enhanced Dedicated Channel (E-DCH) have been introduced as new features of UMTS for Downlink and Uplink in UMTS Release 5 and Release 6, respectively."
I think it's you who is wrong...
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Aw bless. Go and read some more wiki. I'm not interested in correcting you AGAIN. You were rude to the OP. Keep it on-topic or don't post.
all data sessions should automatically switch to WLAN when it is connected and has internet access.
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all data sessions should automatically switch to WLAN when it is connected and has internet access.
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True, but does it actually disconnect any 3G connections, or do they just remain idle?
im pretty sure they disconnect completely.
if you notice... after a session browsing over a WLAN,... once you switch wi fi off and say, open opera, the device reconnects its data session.
This has been the case on windows mobile devices since as long as i can remember.
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im pretty sure they disconnect completely.
if you notice... after a session browsing over a WLAN,... once you switch wi fi off and say, open opera, the device reconnects its data session.
This has been the case on windows mobile devices since as long as i can remember.
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Good point. Guess that answers the OP question then! Nice one.
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Good point. Guess that answers the OP question then! Nice one.
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Not exactly - WMs behaviour is so TOTALLY RANDOM when it comes to multi-homing.
When u have phone disabled (aka no pin entered) or off, and Wifi enabled and surf,u run over Wifi. When u turn then on phone, 3G will NOT connect automatically. Thank God.
When u have phone enabled and Wifi off then start opera and surf then turn wifi on, its unpredictable what happens (u can debug using webservices showing ur ip).
when u have phone enabled and then enable wifi, it also WILL AUTOMATICALLY start 3g connect. No matter if progs are open or not. I guess this is due to Networkmanager making a DHCP request broadcast over all interfaces foolishly.
Hi!
Bought a Tattoo for my kid and now we got a huge bill because the wifi seems to dissconects itself all the time and she is not that good checking the wifi state.
Is this a known problem or what can i do about it?
Using a Netgear N router and WEP (must use WEP because of my stupid XBox that can't handle any other security).
Please let me know how to fix this so she can use the phone!
I have this problem too, and as I found it's a known problem on net.
I'm using wifi fixer, which running as a service and reconnect everytime the connection drops. It's not a solution, but make things better.
http://uk.androlib.com/android.application.org-wahtod-wififixer-qwn.aspx
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dancer_69 said:
I have this problem too, and as I found it's a known problem on net.
I'm using wifi fixer, which running as a service and reconnect everytime the connection drops. It's not a solution, but make things better.
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Hi!
Thanks for the info, is that an app i can find on the Android's app place?
he he he.... did not notice your link Sorry!
Looks to me that HTC is screwing things up even with Android devices...
This phone realy sucks!
Me again!
I've struggled with this phone a couple of hours now but i can't get the wifi to work now.
I press connect to my network, i have entered the wep password but a couple of secs later it says disconnected...
What can i do about this?
I have the same problem - Is it best to configure the Wi Fi settings like IP address etc ? And if so whats the best settings for it?
I've managed to get it to connect now, removed an app that kept track of wifi traffic. But it seems to me that Tattoo does not use wifi when i use YouTube for example. Checked my providers homepage for traffic that we pay for and they had traffic for today. And the phone has not been used all day until my test this evening.
Is there a way to tell the phone to use just the wifi connection when using youtube app or explorer...?
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I've managed to get it to connect now, removed an app that kept track of wifi traffic. But it seems to me that Tattoo does not use wifi when i use YouTube for example. Checked my providers homepage for traffic that we pay for and they had traffic for today. And the phone has not been used all day until my test this evening.
Is there a way to tell the phone to use just the wifi connection when using youtube app or explorer...?
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install apn on-off when you use wifi, just disable APN connection.
then if you need umts/gprs is 1click enabled
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install apn on-off when you use wifi, just disable APN connection.
then if you need umts/gprs is 1click enabled
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Thanks, this sounds easy enough for my kid to handle when she wants to use the wifi and to be sure that it uses the wifi and not the expensive data from our phone company.
Thanks again! Will try this!
So I just updated my Desire HD with the new 2.3.3 update. I downloaded the update OTA using the wifi connection here at home. The download of the update and the installation itself went fine. When my phone rebooted after the update I was glad to see all my settings and apps were still there.
However, there is no connection to the internet anymore through wifi. It does connect to my wifi as I am able to use the Unified Remote app to control my computer. None of the apps however can use the wifi connection to connect to the internet any more.
I already deleted my wifi settings in my Desire HD and re-added them, but that didn't do anything. A simple reboot didn't solve my problem either. My mobile network connection works fine, although much slower than wifi used to be of course.
Does anyone know what I can do to hopefully get my internet connection working again?
Wekko306 said:
So I just updated my Desire HD with the new 2.3.3 update. I downloaded the update OTA using the wifi connection here at home. The download of the update and the installation itself went fine. When my phone rebooted after the update I was glad to see all my settings and apps were still there.
However, there is no connection to the internet anymore through wifi. It does connect to my wifi as I am able to use the Unified Remote app to control my computer. None of the apps however can use the wifi connection to connect to the internet any more.
I already deleted my wifi settings in my Desire HD and re-added them, but that didn't do anything. A simple reboot didn't solve my problem either. My mobile network connection works fine, although much slower than wifi used to be of course.
Does anyone know what I can do to hopefully get my internet connection working again?
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This is a known problem...HTC gotta fix this with a new OTA ...
Btw, i can connect to my wifi, and also browse market and web with the standard browser..
Ps:Whit new 2.3.3 Ota..
Chefs have found the WiFi problem. It's not really a big problem. But HTC implemented a minimum WiFi signal strength, which is set high.
So if the signal isn't strong enough, the WiFi will be turned off.
Infact, here on my desk the signal is on the max, and i havent any problem..
I am getting problems too with wifi after update.
For some reason at home wifi is ok here i only reach internal network ...
Very Strange problem...
****head said:
Chefs have found the WiFi problem. It's not really a big problem. But HTC implemented a minimum WiFi signal strength, which is set high.
So if the signal isn't strong enough, the WiFi will be turned off.
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I doubt that's the problem. When I look in the Testing menu (using *#*#4636*#*#) and go to Wi-Fi Status it says the RSSI is between -51 and -76 which should definitely be strong enough I suppose.
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I doubt that's the problem. When I look in the Testing menu (using *#*#4636*#*#) and go to Wi-Fi Status it says the RSSI is between -51 and -76 which should definitely be strong enough I suppose.
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You're correct
HTC has set the minimum WiFi strength to -88, which is imo too high :-/
That's why people will experience dropped wifi
So what is the solution?
kwira said:
So what is the solution?
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Whoops. i don't know why I pressed the "Thank you"-button xD
For casual users: Nothing, wait until HTC releases a new update.
Chef gtg465x has provided a fix in "ROM Development"-section, but you need to root your phone and use CWM etc. If you're not familiar with these things, you better don't try to fix it.
kwira said:
So what is the solution?
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Check this thread out-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058450
abhishekagrawal said:
Check this thread out-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058450
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I suppose that only helps when you have the problem of your phone dropping wifi signal when it is below -88? Then I don't think this will solve my problem, as my signal strength is ~-60 and the wifi connection itself works fine but just doesn't connect to the internet after the update.
EDIT:
My problem has been solved
It appears that my phone does not get the right information about the Default Gateway when using DHCP as it was set to 0.0.0.0. After setting the phone to use a static IP I could change the Default Gateway and solve the problem.
Now the question is, why doesn't my phone get the right Default Gateway from my server after updating the phone to 2.3.3?
iep thats my prob ...
Where can i find the signal strength of wifi in DHD ??
When i'm near my router, activating wifi on phone, it only tells "excellent" but there are no values.
Thanks for your advice
Bodyworks said:
Where can i find the signal strength of wifi in DHD ??
When i'm near my router it only tells "excellent" but no values.
Thanks for your advice
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1. Open the Phone app
2. Enter *#*#4636#*#*
3. You should now be in the Testing menu
4. Click Wifi information
5. Click Wi-Fi Status
6. Look at the number behind RSSI
Wekko306 said:
1. Open the Phone app
2. Enter *#*#4636#*#*
3. You should now be in the Testing menu
4. Click Wifi information
5. Click Wi-Fi Status
6. Look at the number behind RSSI
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Wow, thats the reason, why i love this forum. Thank you very much. Your answer came blazing fast.
The value tells -57 to -60 (pressing on 'Refresh Stats') sitting directly near the antenna of my router
I can't evaluate, if these values are good or bad.
Would be nice to know, which range is good and which range might result in connection problems.
Thank you
bodyworks
Bodyworks said:
Wow, thats the reason, why i love this forum. Thank you very much. Your answer came blazing fast.
The value tells -57 to -60 (pressing on 'Refresh Stats') sitting directly near the antenna of my router
I can't evaluate, if these values are good or bad.
Would be nice to know, which range is good and which range might result in connection problems.
Thank you
bodyworks
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Those are pretty good numbers I believe. I am usually getting between -52 and -70 when sitting in my room, which is about 6m away from my router (and through 2 walls). Apparently, anything lower than -88 is bad with the new 2.3.3 update as the phone loses wifi connection at that value.
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Those are pretty good numbers I believe. I am usually getting between -52 and -70 when sitting in my room, which is about 6m away from my router (and through 2 walls). Apparently, anything lower than -88 is bad with the new 2.3.3 update as the phone loses wifi connection at that value.
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Ahh i understand. So lower values are better than higher ones.
I heard, that it depends on the radio. I flashed 12.54.60.25U_26.09.04.11_M2 used with 2.3.3 (MDJs VivoSense 2.1) and it works very good. (no wifi drops at all).
GPS is fast as well. After some seconds i get about 8-10 satellites.
Regards,
bodyworks
This is pretty annoying problem, why did HTC changed it when it worked good and making it worse?
try wifi fixer from market.its pretty good.write here pls if u have ay probl.