disconnect UMTS/HSDPA when using WLAN - HD2 General

Hi!
Is there a way to automatically disconnect UMTS/HSDPA data connections when using WLAN?

dadaniel said:
Hi!
Is there a way to automatically disconnect UMTS/HSDPA data connections when using WLAN?
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You realize "HSDPA" IS "UMTS", right?
Also, what's with everyone buzz wording "HSDPA"? You realize the HD2 supports just plain "HSPA", which is what you get when both "HSDPA" and "HSUPA" are implemented?

Spike15 said:
You realize "HSDPA" IS "UMTS", right?
Also, what's with everyone buzz wording "HSDPA"? You realize the HD2 supports just plain "HSPA", which is what you get when both "HSDPA" and "HSUPA" are implemented?
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Very helpful post Spike15. I'm sure he really appreciated that. Bravo.
But you're wrong. HSDPA is NOT the same thing as UTMS. They use the same "airwaves" but are very different protocols.
Anyway, I'm not interested in discussing this with you as there is more than enough information about this on the internet. I just thought you were rude to the OP and you deserved to have it pointed out that you were wrong.
dadaniel - look for the "Touch X add 3G commmanager" cab on the cabs link in my signature. It doesn't automatically turn 3G on and off, but it allows you to do so from the Comm Manager screen. If that's where you turn your Wifi on and off, then I guess it's only 1 more click to achieve what you want.
Hope this helps

johncmolyneux said:
But you're wrong. HSDPA is NOT the same thing as UTMS. They use the same "airwaves" but are very different protocols.
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"Therefore High Speed Packet Downlink Access (HSDPA) and Enhanced Dedicated Channel (E-DCH) have been introduced as new features of UMTS for Downlink and Uplink in UMTS Release 5 and Release 6, respectively."
I think it's you who is wrong...UMTS is a superset of HSPA, and therefore saying "UMTS/HSDPA" is redundant.

Spike15 said:
"Therefore High Speed Packet Downlink Access (HSDPA) and Enhanced Dedicated Channel (E-DCH) have been introduced as new features of UMTS for Downlink and Uplink in UMTS Release 5 and Release 6, respectively."
I think it's you who is wrong...
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Aw bless. Go and read some more wiki. I'm not interested in correcting you AGAIN. You were rude to the OP. Keep it on-topic or don't post.

all data sessions should automatically switch to WLAN when it is connected and has internet access.

Audio Oblivion said:
all data sessions should automatically switch to WLAN when it is connected and has internet access.
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True, but does it actually disconnect any 3G connections, or do they just remain idle?

im pretty sure they disconnect completely.
if you notice... after a session browsing over a WLAN,... once you switch wi fi off and say, open opera, the device reconnects its data session.
This has been the case on windows mobile devices since as long as i can remember.

Audio Oblivion said:
im pretty sure they disconnect completely.
if you notice... after a session browsing over a WLAN,... once you switch wi fi off and say, open opera, the device reconnects its data session.
This has been the case on windows mobile devices since as long as i can remember.
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Good point. Guess that answers the OP question then! Nice one.

johncmolyneux said:
Good point. Guess that answers the OP question then! Nice one.
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Not exactly - WMs behaviour is so TOTALLY RANDOM when it comes to multi-homing.
When u have phone disabled (aka no pin entered) or off, and Wifi enabled and surf,u run over Wifi. When u turn then on phone, 3G will NOT connect automatically. Thank God.
When u have phone enabled and Wifi off then start opera and surf then turn wifi on, its unpredictable what happens (u can debug using webservices showing ur ip).
when u have phone enabled and then enable wifi, it also WILL AUTOMATICALLY start 3g connect. No matter if progs are open or not. I guess this is due to Networkmanager making a DHCP request broadcast over all interfaces foolishly.

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HTC Wizard as Access Point?

It would be really neat to be able to put my Wizard into 'host' mode on the wifi, and share my EDGE access out to wifi clients nearby. It'd be like having my own wifi hotspot in my pocket.
Is this possible?
this post and most others like them gets ignored by most of this forum.
Or so it seems from my month on and off reading.
Ofcoarse this is possible?
will software or service agreements allow it? most likly not.
Shared network
thogue said:
this post and most others like them gets ignored by most of this forum.
Or so it seems from my month on and off reading.
Ofcoarse this is possible?
will software or service agreements allow it? most likly not.
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I wonder why, I think its a nice thing to have, and there exists AP with 3g cards like LINKSYS WRT54G3G
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with software it would be possible i think
just a matter of making the device rount
the wifi to the connection
but edge and even 3g is not really fast enough to share with anybody without comming down to a crawl
which is prob why there have been no demand and so
no developing for the field
gprs/edge > BT > PC >WiFi > WLAN
easy to do, conect to data service throught your computer with BT or USB then in settings share internet connection (via Wifi) with other users.
draco42 said:
It would be really neat to be able to put my Wizard into 'host' mode on the wifi, and share my EDGE access out to wifi clients nearby. It'd be like having my own wifi hotspot in my pocket.
Is this possible?
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Check this link :
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=453&more=1
another painfull way, but may work for u.
I think it has something to do either with no one caring/caring about terms of service possibly.

Using GPRS and phone at the same time?

Seems like when i answer the phone my GPRS connection is cut off. Is there any way around this?
My understanding is you get one channel. If you're not using the phone it's good for data, but it disconnects data to free the channel up for voice. I read somewhere that the network and technology, in some places, supports concurency but I've never seen it happen that way.
bkeahl said:
My understanding is you get one channel. If you're not using the phone it's good for data, but it disconnects data to free the channel up for voice. I read somewhere that the network and technology, in some places, supports concurency but I've never seen it happen that way.
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due to the way in which GSM operates most networks prefer not to allow simultanious connections.. resulting in your packet data connection being disconnected...
with 3G (wcdma) you can speak on the phone and surf the net no problems....
roll on the hermes!!
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Which Method do you use to Connect to the Internet?

Nothing to gain here except idle curiosity.
For connecting to the Internet, be that to have my mail forwarded, having programs update their information or just general surfing ~ which method do you use to connect?
Myself, even though at home I could quite easily connect to my home network or at work use the Hospital's server, I still prefer to use my Mobile Account [T-Mobile in my case].
However, I notice in several other topics that members mention they use wireless as opposed to their sim card's network.
Is there a particular reason in changing from one to the other?
I personally do not have a valid reason to opt in and out of different connection methods and simply let the machine connect to the phone network whenever it wants.
So... there's my curiosity released. Would anyone wish to share their method of choice!
Beards
I'm connected to the internet via HSDPA 24/7. Only if I need sth really fast I use my W-LAN connection.
I use HSDPA/3G when im outside. When im at home i use wifi/w-lan.
At street or office I'm connected to the internet via HSDPA, at home via Wifi or usb.
Wifi at home. HSDPA outside.
But HSDPA seems to never want to switch off even though I have a good wifi connection. Urgh.
chr5s11 said:
I'm connected to the internet via HSDPA 24/7. Only if I need sth really fast I use my W-LAN connection.
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The combination HSDPA + O² + germany = Not stable
Haven´t you noticed these HSDPA lags? They aren´t the result of bad connection, they are the result of line drop or as O² called it - sleeping connection. I have confirmations from many major german cities.
LINK (german):
Diamond= http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=132807
HD= http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=137661
O² FAQ Point 19= http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=137748
Flanders said:
The combination HSDPA + O² + germany = Not stable
Haven´t you noticed these HSDPA lags? They aren´t the result of bad connection, they are the result of line drop or as O² called it - sleeping connection. I have confirmations from many major german cities.
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I know that, but I encounter these lags only in a few areas. Where I usually go I don't have any problems at all with HSDPA. In fact I had more problems with HSDPA on my old Hermes than on my new Blackstone.
SingaporeAirlines said:
Wifi at home. HSDPA outside.
But HSDPA seems to never want to switch off even though I have a good wifi connection. Urgh.
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How could that b? when u switch on wifi, it will off the hsdpa and switch to wifi instead, isnt it? mine one does that tho. how can u use hsdpa and wifi at da same time???
Can you tell me which town or area? Here or on ppc-welt?
vosszaa said:
How could that b? when u switch on wifi, it will off the hsdpa and switch to wifi instead, isnt it? mine one does that tho. how can u use hsdpa and wifi at da same time???
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I don't know. It's a bit annoying as I don't want the HSDPA on when I am using Wifi.
SingaporeAirlines said:
I don't know. It's a bit annoying as I don't want the HSDPA on when I am using Wifi.
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HSDPA is automatically off when u turn on wifi. i think u misunderstand sumthing.
On most networks HSDPA never disconnects, so if you then go and connect to wifi the HSDPA will remain connected, just unused. You can check this with the HD's title bar icons.
Doesn't make any difference though, HSDPA being "connected" means nothing really. It's little different from your phone being on and registered to the mobile network.
Oh! thx for the info. I thought it disconnect automatically.
BTW, if u tap on the title bar as u said, u can disconnect the HSDPA directly from there!
I use Edge all the time since I'm on T-Mobile USA. In fact, I'm posting this message via Edge while I'm waiting to renew my license. I only use WiFi when I have to d/l any files. I'm pretty happy with Edge speeds where I live, commute and work.
arfster said:
On most networks HSDPA never disconnects, so if you then go and connect to wifi the HSDPA will remain connected, just unused. You can check this with the HD's title bar icons.
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Hmm. Thanks for that. I just don't want it to try and be clever and increase my wifi speed by using a bit of HSDPA on the side (and hence using up my data quota).

Is there a way to use my home internet in my phone so that i can use when im away

Is there a way to use my home internet to my phone when im away from home. I know its kinda impossible but just curious to know if anyone found a way to do that.
If you have wifi then you can use it withn some meters like 100m but that too depends on your wifi range. But if you are thinking something like using home's wifi from any place dat is too far then it is impossible
Thought so... maybe someone could come up with that soon in near future
DigitalCocaine said:
Is there a way to use my home internet to my phone when im away from home. I know its kinda impossible but just curious to know if anyone found a way to do that.
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You mean so that you're not using mobile data at all?
This will always be impossible; unless of course you could extend WiFi range to miles and beyond. This is also not likely to happen, consumer devices such as routers and access points have strict limits on broadcast power. Any more than that, and you need to have a license. Also, considering the fact that the WiFi band is already congested at low power levels (we're talking about milliwatts), I don't think your neighbours would appreciate having a several kilowatt radio transmitter blocking their wireless signal.
Needless to say, your phone would also need a huge transmitter in order for two-way communication with the base station to work. This is not going to happen on battery power.
Now, if you're trying to access your home internet connection, you can use a Virtual Private Network or SSH tunnelling. But there's no way you're going to avoid having to use mobile data.
JayR_L said:
You mean so that you're not using mobile data at all?
This will always be impossible; unless of course you could extend WiFi range to miles and beyond. This is also not likely to happen, consumer devices such as routers and access points have strict limits on broadcast power. Any more than that, and you need to have a license. Also, considering the fact that the WiFi band is already congested at low power levels (we're talking about milliwatts), I don't think your neighbours would appreciate having a several kilowatt radio transmitter blocking their wireless signal.
Needless to say, your phone would also need a huge transmitter in order for two-way communication with the base station to work. This is not going to happen on battery power.
Now, if you're trying to access your home internet connection, you can use a Virtual Private Network or SSH tunnelling. But there's no way you're going to avoid having to use mobile data.
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Can I use my mobile data but increase my speed which is similar to my home internet connection?
DigitalCocaine said:
Can I use my mobile data but increase my speed which is similar to my home internet connection?
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Google Chrome for Android has a feature called "Reduce Data Usage" which uses Google's servers to compress data and thus reduce loading times and data usage.
You can find this feature by going to Chrome settings -> Bandwidth Management -> "Reduce Data Usage"
For me, it reduced data usage by 32%. As the amount of data transferred is proportional to wait times, less data = faster.
JayR_L said:
Google Chrome for Android has a feature called "Reduce Data Usage" which uses Google's servers to compress data and thus reduce loading times and data usage.
You can find this feature by going to Chrome settings -> Bandwidth Management -> "Reduce Data Usage"
For me, it reduced data usage by 32%. As the amount of data transferred is proportional to wait times, less data = faster.
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I should try this method, thanks but is there a way to speed up my wifi hotspot using my phone data?
DigitalCocaine said:
I should try this method, thanks but is there a way to speed up my wifi hotspot using my phone data?
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No. You can't multiplex/bridge a WiFi connection and mobile data connection easily. And even if you could, it's unlikely that you would notice an increase in speed. I'm afraid the only solution for that is to get a better device or better network.
JayR_L said:
No. You can't multiplex/bridge a WiFi connection and mobile data connection easily. And even if you could, it's unlikely that you would notice an increase in speed. I'm afraid the only solution for that is to get a better device or better network.
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Actually, you can: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...d-and-destroy-your-data-cap-faster-than-ever/
Product F(RED) said:
Actually, you can: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...d-and-destroy-your-data-cap-faster-than-ever/
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Yes, this might speed up downloads slightly but it doesn't help you browse the web any faster. Even if you could pull a couple extra megabits/sec, the latency wouldn't be divisible in two.
JayR_L said:
Yes, this might speed up downloads slightly but it doesn't help you browse the web any faster. Even if you could pull a couple extra megabits/sec, the latency wouldn't be divisible in two.
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Oh, yeah that I know. I meant for downloads.
DigitalCocaine said:
Is there a way to use my home internet to my phone when im away from home. I know its kinda impossible but just curious to know if anyone found a way to do that.
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I found a solution . Take a long cable and connect to your router . And get internet from the end of that cable
Just kidding
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Any suggestions for prioritizing Wifi networks?

Now what I mean by this is if I have multiple overlapping wifi networks I want to be able to select which one the phone will prioritize its connection to
Why this is important for me is at home I have my 5Ghz network and my normal network(2.5Ghz I think).The 5Ghz network wont travel as far as my other network but speeds are much better
So basically I want my phone to use the 5Ghz network until its no longer available.Another example of how I want to use this is at work I have access to my private wifi around my desk and corp wifi around the office
The corp wifi blocks access to certain content so by prioritizing my private wifi the phone would stay connected to it unless it loses coverage and then it would switch to the corp wifi and vice versa
I tried a bunch of apps I could find and none seem to work too well. I know some versions of CM had something like this but cant seem to find anyway to do this properly on stock ROMs which I figure would be a good feature
Any suggestions would be welcome
My case the only way I have found to solve that was enabling roaming assistant on my routers (RT-AC88U's) to help my devices switch to stronger signals, and smart connect to switch from 5ghz to 2.4ghz and viceversa when bandwith on that band is saturated.
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sentinelvdx said:
My case the only way I have found to solve that was enabling roaming assistant on my routers (RT-AC88U's) to help my devices switch to stronger signals, and smart connect to switch from 5ghz to 2.4ghz and viceversa when bandwith on that band is saturated.
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Unfortunately that would only help for the area around the router. I'm looking for a phone based solution
I would figure in this day and age this should be a default feature
Yeahp... that's why I have subscribed to your thread to see if someone has phone based solution
Here it is https://goo.gl/5L6ymo
You're welcome
whynottoday said:
Here it is https://goo.gl/5L6ymo
You're welcome
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Thanks but tried this app already but half the time it isnt doing what it should
Hasnt been updated in over a year either
fidorulz said:
Thanks but tried this app already but half the time it isnt doing what it should
Hasnt been updated in over a year either
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Works great for me
whynottoday said:
Works great for me
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Tried the app again to see if I missed something and it pretty much has nothing from what im looking for. There is no option to prioritize specific SSID. You can prioritize 5Ghz or setup specific signal thresholds but what im talking about is an app that will prioritize SSID
So for example if I have WIFI 1 and WIFI 2 both have great signal but I prefer WIFI 1 unless it has no service then and only then it will goto WIFI 2. Once I go back in the coverage area for WIFI 1 it switches back
Found this app and so far so good.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.com.superwifi&rdid=app.com.superwifi
It has the option to prioritize by SSID
Will test a little longer
This also seems very promising
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.za.flash.wifiprioritizer&hl=en
fidorulz said:
Now what I mean by this is if I have multiple overlapping wifi networks I want to be able to select which one the phone will prioritize its connection to
Why this is important for me is at home I have my 5Ghz network and my normal network(2.5Ghz I think).The 5Ghz network wont travel as far as my other network but speeds are much better
So basically I want my phone to use the 5Ghz network until its no longer available.Another example of how I want to use this is at work I have access to my private wifi around my desk and corp wifi around the office
The corp wifi blocks access to certain content so by prioritizing my private wifi the phone would stay connected to it unless it loses coverage and then it would switch to the corp wifi and vice versa
I tried a bunch of apps I could find and none seem to work too well. I know some versions of CM had something like this but cant seem to find anyway to do this properly on stock ROMs which I figure would be a good feature
Any suggestions would be welcome
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You know Tasker? With the autotools plugin you might be able to do this. You could make it search for ssid and if xx ssid is available, connect to it. I don't have time for more in depth before the day after tomorrow, but quote me if you need help.
Faspaiso said:
You know Tasker? With the autotools plugin you might be able to do this. You could make it search for ssid and if xx ssid is available, connect to it. I don't have time for more in depth before the day after tomorrow, but quote me if you need help.
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Thanks ill tinker around with it for a while
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.seah0rse.swififree
Lets you prioritise 5ghz, and also set at what difference in signal strength it should switch to better network
asjstian said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.seah0rse.swififree
Lets you prioritise 5ghz, and also set at what difference in signal strength it should switch to better network
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Thanks but mainly looking for SSID filter vs signal or 5Ghz.
You can have different SSID for 5Ghz vs regular which is what I do at home but at work 5Ghz isnt available to I mainly need to prioritize one SSID over another unless its not available
Did you try Tasker o Automate? (I didn't try it yet, that's why I'm asking). Tasker is a very powerful tool which can help on such things.
sentinelvdx said:
Did you try Tasker o Automate? (I didn't try it yet, that's why I'm asking). Tasker is a very powerful tool which can help on such things.
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I use Tasker but only for simple tasks such as when bluetooth connects change audio info
Otherwise many of the options go over my head
sentinelvdx said:
My case the only way I have found to solve that was enabling roaming assistant on my routers (RT-AC88U's) to help my devices switch to stronger signals, and smart connect to switch from 5ghz to 2.4ghz and viceversa when bandwith on that band is saturated.
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Eh . I'm going to buy AC88U later this month. I wanna know. So. I know that if you enable roaming assistant on 5ghz. It'll switch your phone to 2.4 when the RSSI match the settings. But the thing I don't know is. If we can do the same for 2.4ghz. so when it reaches how much high strength it'll disconnect it. So making the client connect to the 5ghz. Well I know smartconnect can do it. But smartconnect disables the channel selection. Thanks [emoji4]

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