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how to make BLOCK RECOGNIZER a default text entry method ???

Anybody knows how to make block recognizer a default text entry method? Each time i softreset my test MDA II it comes up with keyboard which I hate. I found out how to turn on/of letter recognizer and transcriber from the menu, but I do not know how to make blockrecognizer a default. I think it is not written to registry as it comes back to the keyboard after softreset. Anybody has a solution? I used pocket tweak 420 for that before but this is the only thing I was using it for so it would be good to get rid of it.
luk

Off the top of my head, the best way to do this is to install the trial version of Fitaly, tell it so set your favourite input method as default (soft reset a few times to make sure it works), and then uninstall the Fitaly trial.
It's certainly not elegant, and there must be much better ways, but it works, in a quick 'n dirty way..

Default input methods question

Is there a way of defining some programs to use a particular input method by default? Say, I always want Word to use the transcriber, but PIE to use the keyboard.
Thanks,
John

jko said:
Is there a way of defining some programs to use a particular input method by default? Say, I always want Word to use the transcriber, but PIE to use the keyboard.
Thanks,
John
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I know there is way to enable/disable an input method and how to make one input method as default.. but don't know how to set a specific input method for particular program.. :roll:
I am using 838 TC version with 4 different chinese input method.. but none of it are english by default.. I have to toggle between ChongKit and English keyboard. Is there a way to install a purely english input to my 838? Hope someone could help out.
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Enable/Disable InputMethod
[HKCR\CSID\{CSID}\IsSIPInputMethod]
"Default"= 1, for Enable
"Default"= 1, for Disable
手寫板 - {124D7CDC-CF2D-418F-8BB4-4395AD048B79}
全螢慕手寫 - {5AAFAF99-8D99-4466-A66D-95C44B608A84}
注音 - {E18BFD41-BEB8-11D1-8F9F-00AA00B58D45}
倉頡 - {E18BFD44-DF36-11D1-90DD-0000F81E0CE9}
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Change Default InputMethod
[HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip]
"DefaultIm" = {CSID}
手寫板 - {124D7CDC-CF2D-418F-8BB4-4395AD048B79}
全螢慕手寫 - {5AAFAF99-8D99-4466-A66D-95C44B608A84}
注音 - {E18BFD41-BEB8-11D1-8F9F-00AA00B58D45}
倉頡 - {E18BFD44-DF36-11D1-90DD-0000F81E0CE9}

I would be happy to just know how to stop the on screen keyboard from popping up unless i hit the icon.

Tweak to hide the keyboard SIP on screen (include cab)

Sorry for my bad english ... google english ...
Then that same one, time towards which was looking for the way to completely hide the keyboard that appears to us in the screen in the Qtek 9000 and Qtek 9100 (also the trick with other WM5 would be compatible, but must have physical keyboard).
That keyboard did not do more than to bother to me, see at the most inopportune moments cut the screen, and was almost half of her the one that in oblong way, so I put myself to navigate and to look for by the registry until I gave with the key...
We took hold the publisher of registry and we go away to the HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip key where they will appear to us some keys, those that interest to us they are these DWORD:
- AllowChange with value of 1 that we will change to 0
- DragStyle with a value of 0 which we will change to 1
- MenuBarHeight with a value of 52 (Qtek 9000) or 26 (Qtek 9100) which we will change to 1
Soft-Reset and, already we will have the totally hidden keyboard, to return to activate it we would have to the values of origin.
Regards

Much safer to use a null keyboard like PHM External keyboard.
V

vijay555 said:
Much safer to use a null keyboard like PHM External keyboard.
V
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Hi Vijay,
Do you mean this program? http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/nullkeyboard.shtml Would this leave a blank spot where the keyboard used to be? (I think I read it some where, but not sure).

http://discussion.brighthand.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=120660
http://www.winmobiletech.com/102005NoSIPOnScreen/NullSIPCompChart.html
I use the PHM external keyboard app on my Universal.
V

We took hold the publisher of registry and we go away to the HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip key where they will appear to us some keys, those that interest to us they are these DWORD:
- AllowChange with value of 1 that we will change to 0
- DragStyle with a value of 0 which we will change to 1
- MenuBarHeight with a value of 52 (Qtek 9000) or 26 (Qtek 9100) which we will change to 1
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What I want is disable the automatic appereance of the keyboard (like when I open IE), so can I use the keyboard (on display) if I just tap the icon below??? Or is it all gone after these reg tweaks???

zago187: it sounds like this is physically shrinking the size of the window. But I guess it will require a reboot to show it again.
If you just click on the normal keyboard icon, it should hide it. Otherwise, use a null keyboard SIP. Otherwise, use VJSipSwitch and hide keyboard. Otherwise, use this registry hack if it works ok for your needs.
V

vijay555 said:
zago187: it sounds like this is physically shrinking the size of the window. But I guess it will require a reboot to show it again.
If you just click on the normal keyboard icon, it should hide it. Otherwise, use a null keyboard SIP. Otherwise, use VJSipSwitch and hide keyboard. Otherwise, use this registry hack if it works ok for your needs.
V
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Allright,tnx mate. But what I want is disable the automatic keyboard apereance. Does this registry hack cancel the keyboardfunction? anyone tried it yet???

Can't have T9 automatically ON for HW keyboard

When I use HW keyboard it always has ABC mode on. I have to use FN key and T9 key to choose T9 manually.
How can I enable T9 to be automatically ON when I use HW keyboard?
Thank you for your help

the t9 always works with a onscreen keyboard. Also if you manage it with a hack a problem would be to where the word suggestions should pop up on the screen.
when someone write a programme for your suggestion than it would be a custom keyboard without letters, only word suggestions and pops automaticly up when the keyboard on the pro is used.
Maybe someone already wrote it.
It would be nice trough

Search for the cab god damn it! There is a cab in one of the ezinput keyboard threads in dev & hacking that allows T9 to always be on (Yes, including the HW keyboard).

Kraize said:
Search for the cab god damn it! There is a cab in one of the ezinput keyboard threads in dev & hacking that allows T9 to always be on (Yes, including the HW keyboard).
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You don't happen to have a link to this cab at hand, do you? I for one would like to have the T9 always on (even with the hw keyboard), but did not manage to find the correct thread / cab even after an extensive search.

I searched with no result, unfortunately. If you could be so kind to address me to that cab, I would be very grateful indeed.

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I searched with no result, unfortunately. If you could be so kind to address me to that cab, I would be very grateful indeed.
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Oh that was so hard I almost had to use my brain
First result when searching on ezinput T9 always enable came up trumps...
DeadKeys / T9 as default behaviour for the Fn+Space combo - Full HW Keyboard phones

I thank you very much. Even if I walk around here for years, sometimes it happens that I am not able to find out things. Fortunately there are others who help

You're very welcome, glad to help.
Thanks for pointing out about the keyboard, did you test it and it works?

why not FN + Space It´s working at my device

Because I would like that when I slide out the keyboard I can immediately type with T9 on, without switching it on manually - this is the meaning of "automatically ON"

okaaaay. sry for that, but just tell me the sense of T9 with a "complete" keyboard!?? Do you also have T9 at your computer at home?

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okaaaay. sry for that, but just tell me the sense of T9 with a "complete" keyboard!?? Do you also have T9 at your computer at home?
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I see a couple of ways T9 is useful with the full keyboard.
1. Words like "won't" can be typed out with w-o-n-t rather than w-o-n-FN-'-t
2. It helps with long words. We can use the arrow keys to choose the word after a couple of letters rather than typing out the rest of the word.
There's a fundamental difference between the keyboard on a mobile device like the Rhodium and your desktop keyboard. On our Rhodium, we have only our 2 thumbs. On a full size desktop/notebook, we make use of all 10 of our fingers.

It seems that we are concentrating on why I have asked to have T9 ON, while I was asking HOW to have it on.
If you don't agree that it is a good thing that somebody finds out how to, simply don't post here

I never used T9 but it supposed to offer words from vocabulary? in my case it doesn't...

well, has someone found a way to make this work on landscape or hardware keyboard ??
having to always activa xt9 is boring ..
(that cab does not work) looking at the registry is changes from 1 to 0 when changing to landscape and it's the htc keyboard doing this. If you activate xt9 and change to the default windows keyboard it works but then you have a small keyboard when on portait.

I agree, the same thing happens to me. The easiest solution is to have it rotate to portrait, pull up the XT9 keyboard and then open the screen.
It's a pain, though. Would love another solution.

Dead key
None of CABs which can be found here are not working the way that if I will press Fn+Sym it acts as deadkey - always T9 dialog is shown. Have anybody idea how to change it?

Turn off XT9 permanently and stop it from interfering with Swype?

I've installed Swype and really like it. I'm using SIPchange to enable it as a default. Unfortunately, XT9 will interfere with the words selected by Swype even after you've picked the right word. The only way to disable this is to manually change to Touch Input keyboard and disable XT9 on the keyboard before changing back to Swype.
I've already disabled both Spell Correction and Word Completion in Touch Input under Settings> Personal> Input> Touch Input> Options, but XT9 still turns on the next time I restart the phone.

Hi, I'm using swype too and haven't noticed any interference from XT9, but I might not have known what I'm looking for.
What are your symptoms?

I have had that happen to me before on certain Roms... cant tell you which one... usually, it works fine (I am using Topix Rom now)
When it did happen, I turned off XT9 under the settings but I ALSO opened the default keyboard and turned it off there but pressing the key.... moved back to swype after that and the xt9 word options were gone... just the usual swype dictionary/options at times.... Soft reset didn't change anything... it was all ok still
Hope this helps

Unfortunately for me, once I shutdown/soft reset the phone, XT9 is automatically activated on the Touch Input keyboard again even though everything has already been turned off in the Settings>Personal>Input. Also, it seems that the Touch Input keyboard automatically defaults to one of the Chinese input methods instead of English. Maybe that's where the problem lies. Where can I default the Touch Input keyboard to English?
BTW, I have my Locale set as Australia, so that isn't the problem.
The symptoms are: Once you've "Swyped" the word and pick the one you want, XT9 then shows up with it's word choices and either shows the same word or if I have it initial caps, make it all small letters
I also noticed that in Settings>Personal>Input, when I select Swype then click the "OK" button, it doesn't save the selection, and goes back to "Touch Input" when I open the "Input" dialogue again. I guess this probably means that some of my registry entries are toast...

That is indeed weird... do you have something like SIP change installed? I use that to start Swype by default during startup after a restart.. Don't know if that might help...

Yes, I do have SIPchange installed, but it's already set to Swype as the default.

I had the same problem and this is my partial solution.
Go to HKLM/Softwares/Tegic/eT9/IsSupportMSSIPContact
Change the Dword from 1 to 0.
this will get rid of XT9 for Swype but only if it is NOT the default. Therefore, there is the nagging inconvenience of having to change it to Swype every time your soft reset. But it is better than that nothing.

Thanks for the partial solution. It's at least better than what I'm doing now after every reboot, which is to:
1. change Swype to Touch Input
2. change Touch Input to EN so that the keyboard shows up
3. click on the XT9/ABC button
4. change Touch Input back to Swype..
One thing to note, I just went to the registry and there isn't the value you listed. However, there is the following string value:
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\LRU_MS_InputMethod and the value is Swype.
I'm wondering if this is what is causing XT9 to activate when Swype is active.. Do you have this value in your registry? what value is it?
Quick edit to note that I added a DWORD IsSupportMSSIPContact with value "0" and soft reset... Sorry to say that it didn't disable XT9 even if Touch Input was defaulted. Guess my problem is slightly different than yours.

Yes, all those values are the same. Need ot check if you also disable xt9 using some .cab. If not then you will need to do the following:
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409\Ime File
Change it to read as compime.dll
and
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409\Layout Text
Change to COMP IME
This will disable eT9. Please remember the original values should you want to revert back.
I think that should work.
have fun.

weenween, the two registry values you gave are already what is on my phone..
But XT9 still enables itself when I restart the phone. I've now resigned myself to disabling XT9 on the Touch Input keyboard manually each time I restart the phone.
In any case, thanks for your help.

I have exactly the same problem adn symptoms as GregWee. Must be becasue we both have Hong Kong HD2s where the default english keyboard is PinYin?

I have a similar issue. I have a TMOUS HD2 with QQ 2010 mobile loaded on it for chinese text entry. The QQ keypad has become the default everytime I reboot - entirely unwanted. Somehow it interferes with the contact dropdown list in messaging and email. It has something to do with the T9 staying on when entering a contact name. I installed sipchange but it does not overide the QQ default after a soft reset.
After changing between keyboards a few time it begins to work properly in email and then finally in messages. Right now, since the last soft reboot and playing around, when I am in either email or messages the stock keyboard will automatically switch from T9 to abc when I move the cursor to enter a contact name. The contacts appear as I type as they should. Swype works fine too. I have no idea what I did to get it to work but I have had the same experience several times today. Hopefully I will figure it out.
I would like to know a way to override the QQ as the default keyboard. I think this might fix the problem.
Any suggestions?