When I use HW keyboard it always has ABC mode on. I have to use FN key and T9 key to choose T9 manually.
How can I enable T9 to be automatically ON when I use HW keyboard?
Thank you for your help
the t9 always works with a onscreen keyboard. Also if you manage it with a hack a problem would be to where the word suggestions should pop up on the screen.
when someone write a programme for your suggestion than it would be a custom keyboard without letters, only word suggestions and pops automaticly up when the keyboard on the pro is used.
Maybe someone already wrote it.
It would be nice trough
Search for the cab god damn it! There is a cab in one of the ezinput keyboard threads in dev & hacking that allows T9 to always be on (Yes, including the HW keyboard).
Kraize said:
Search for the cab god damn it! There is a cab in one of the ezinput keyboard threads in dev & hacking that allows T9 to always be on (Yes, including the HW keyboard).
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You don't happen to have a link to this cab at hand, do you? I for one would like to have the T9 always on (even with the hw keyboard), but did not manage to find the correct thread / cab even after an extensive search.
I searched with no result, unfortunately. If you could be so kind to address me to that cab, I would be very grateful indeed.
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I searched with no result, unfortunately. If you could be so kind to address me to that cab, I would be very grateful indeed.
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Oh that was so hard I almost had to use my brain
First result when searching on ezinput T9 always enable came up trumps...
DeadKeys / T9 as default behaviour for the Fn+Space combo - Full HW Keyboard phones
I thank you very much. Even if I walk around here for years, sometimes it happens that I am not able to find out things. Fortunately there are others who help
You're very welcome, glad to help.
Thanks for pointing out about the keyboard, did you test it and it works?
why not FN + Space It´s working at my device
Because I would like that when I slide out the keyboard I can immediately type with T9 on, without switching it on manually - this is the meaning of "automatically ON"
okaaaay. sry for that, but just tell me the sense of T9 with a "complete" keyboard!?? Do you also have T9 at your computer at home?
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okaaaay. sry for that, but just tell me the sense of T9 with a "complete" keyboard!?? Do you also have T9 at your computer at home?
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I see a couple of ways T9 is useful with the full keyboard.
1. Words like "won't" can be typed out with w-o-n-t rather than w-o-n-FN-'-t
2. It helps with long words. We can use the arrow keys to choose the word after a couple of letters rather than typing out the rest of the word.
There's a fundamental difference between the keyboard on a mobile device like the Rhodium and your desktop keyboard. On our Rhodium, we have only our 2 thumbs. On a full size desktop/notebook, we make use of all 10 of our fingers.
It seems that we are concentrating on why I have asked to have T9 ON, while I was asking HOW to have it on.
If you don't agree that it is a good thing that somebody finds out how to, simply don't post here
I never used T9 but it supposed to offer words from vocabulary? in my case it doesn't...
well, has someone found a way to make this work on landscape or hardware keyboard ??
having to always activa xt9 is boring ..
(that cab does not work) looking at the registry is changes from 1 to 0 when changing to landscape and it's the htc keyboard doing this. If you activate xt9 and change to the default windows keyboard it works but then you have a small keyboard when on portait.
I agree, the same thing happens to me. The easiest solution is to have it rotate to portrait, pull up the XT9 keyboard and then open the screen.
It's a pain, though. Would love another solution.
Dead key
None of CABs which can be found here are not working the way that if I will press Fn+Sym it acts as deadkey - always T9 dialog is shown. Have anybody idea how to change it?
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Would someone please tell me how to get rid of this new autocomplete, it's really slowing me down...I already tried turning off Word Completion in Settings -> Input.
I haven't seen that type of auto-complete before, but it looks rather good. What SIP are you using? Is it a new function in the latest ROM's or have you added a third party SIP?
Came with my Sprint Touch. It shows up whenever I use the built in block recognizer. Normally I wouldn't mind since it can be helpful for those really long words, but this one really really slows down my Touch and causes my strokes to be recognized incorrectly
Seemed to have figured it out, I just had to disable the Wordcompletion keys under HKLM\Software\Tegic
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I haven't seen that type of auto-complete before, but it looks rather good. What SIP are you using? Is it a new function in the latest ROM's or have you added a third party SIP?
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It also looks like this is provided by the new fullscreen keyboard SIP added to the Sprint Touch
comes in the new rom.. i cant find anyway to off it too..
I installed the new Touch Keyboard and Touch Keypad found in these pages (somewhere ?? sorry not sure...) and this now appears on the default keyboard.
Totally agree: it sucks big time. I couldn't find a way to turn it off also, so I eventually flash a rom without it
hi EliteXen,
could you be more specific which reg key under
HKLM\Software\Tegic
you changed to disable the autocomplete? thanks.
To turn off the XT9 autocomplete for non-Touch keyboards:
Go to HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\ and change the key "XT9SupportMSSip" from value "1" to "0"
However, to turn it off within a Touch keyboard I think you need to go to "Options" for the keyboard --> XT9 Settings --> uncheck everything...
Can't use "Word Completion" on the Touch?? (Only XT9??)
Turned off XT9 as above but apparently the normal Windows Mobile "Word Completion" doesn't work??
Is it possible to use the normal "Word Completion" or is that functionality not included since they included XT9?
(I actually think XT9 does better prediction that "Word Completion" but XT9 prevents various 3rd-party keyboards/SIPs from working ...)
Here's some info: installed the dictionary editor from http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-word-completion-dictionary-editor-v1-3-2342-39581.html and it showed no entries in the system. Added a couple entries and saved them to the main dictionary so there are entries now, but they still aren't popping up as suggestions
What would be really great is if XT9 can be enabled and NOT interfere with 3rd-party SIPs. (For me, it prevents the "macros" function in MessagEase from working...) Otherwise, would love to be able to re-enable the Windows Mobile "Word Completion" if anyone knows how...
One of my problems (mostly) fixed
Apparently I'll just be sitting around posting repeatedly to this thread all day
Okay, here's something that can help if you are having trouble with XT9 interfering with a 3rd party SIP but you want to KEEP XT9's autocompletion rather than have no autocompletion at all...
The below fix made it possible for MessagEase macros to work along with XT9 being activated, although it looks a bit funky when MessagEase macros are being expanded (as the macro is being typed by MessagEase, XT9 is trapping every character and making new guesses, and then it remembers the macro as a new "autocomplete" phrase).
So here's how to make MessagEase and XT9 work together:
1) DON'T do the registry change described earlier (HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip) --> if that entry was already changed to 0, change it back to 1 because we want it active again...and if you make a registry change then you'll have to turn the device off/back on and reboot as usual)
2) from the keyboard selector (the up arrow on lower right of screen), select "Options"-->then select "Touch Keyboard" and tap "Options" button
3) click "XT9 Settings" button --> uncheck everything EXCEPT "Word Completion"
4) click "Ok" a bunch of times
Now MessagEase macros work although XT9 is try to trap every character MessagEase is writing...
[[One note: I *love* MessagEase but haven't used the macros in a long time as there was a bug that started happening due to the "macros" function (I called it Mad WM5 Syndrome: everything started going crazy and you had to reboot). So Exideas made a MessagEase "Lite" version without macro functionality that is very stable...They tried to fix the non-"Lite" version but the last one I tried (long ago) still caused the problem on a PPC-6700...So now I'm trying the non-"Lite" version again, hoping the macro function will work without causing "Mad WM5 Syndrome"...I will post back if the mad syndrome returns!]]
Aaron
Well unfortunately I don't have much to add, but since you're the only one posting on this thread I thought I'd echo your desires for the standard windows word completion. I like to use the keypad at times and xt9 works just fine for that, but when I'm using my hardware keyboard I'm unable to get word completion back. I miss it!
GOod job with the work-around mentioned in your last post. I think I'd prefer the normal word completion to xt9's though, so hopefully someone can figure out a way to to limit xt9's "influence" to only those times that you're using the touch keypads.
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So now I'm trying the non-"Lite" version again, hoping the macro function will work without causing "Mad WM5 Syndrome"...I will post back if the mad syndrome returns!]]
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Unfortunately, "Mad WM5 Syndrome" has become "Mad WM6 Syndrome" with the non-LITE version of MessagEase on my HTC Touch. So I'm back to using the LITE version of MessagEase without macros However, it's great using MessagEase on the Touch because you can slide right off the keyboard as there's no "ledge" between the screen and the rest of the device
I installed the Touch Keyboard-Keypad and now when I slide out the full keyboard, it is still using t9. I changed the keyboard on the bottom of the screen to "keyboard" but it still says t9 at the top of the screen and my full keyboard doesn't function correctly. I'm sure there is something dumb that I am missing, anyone out there have the same problem, or a solution perhaps? Thanks!
you know what i think there are different versions of this software ill see if i can get you a copy of the one i use on my titan. send me a pm to remind me. im not near a pc now.
Hey elgreek84, I'm having the same problem along with being unable to pull from the contact list when manually adding a To: recipient. Be nice to have this working as I really like the Touch Keyboard-Keypad.
i just installed the Touch keyboard-keypad today and when i slide out my keyboard it still says xt9 or whatever at the top but i don't seem to have any problems. i guess i got the "later" version.
one thing that's annoying to me is when i pull up the Touch keyboard i can't see what i'm typing. i use Threaded SMS and when i hit New i can see what i'm typing, but if i'm just responding to a txt i can't see if what i'm typing is messing up or if it's right.
Heres the one elgreek84 hooked me up with. I haven't had a chance to test it, but he says you shouldn't have the t9 problem with it. Good luck.
thanks guys..this is what i needed...awesome...
I can't seem to get this to run (it installs) on my XV6800.
always qwerty
ok that's great but I'd like to have the qwerty keyboard all the time, because in certain apps shows the qw er... and in others the full keyboard!! Any ideas???
This is working for me, but it seems that with it enabled, it seems to disable AutoCorrect/Suggestive text... Autocorrect is checked in input options, but it just doesn't work...
In general, I wouldn't mind since the xT9 is fairly intuitive, but when I'm typing with the slide-out, I rely on it to correct the words i frequently mess up, and moreso for conjunctions (dont=don't, etc). It's too much effort to actually hit the apostrophe. So - is there any way to make xT9 NOT active when the slide is out? Or even to disable xT9 all together? I have unchecked all the boxes in the xT9 options, but it still shows xT9 at the top, and autocorrect is still broken.
Hi I'm currently using PocketCM Keyboard which is better than the default but a bit frustrating when having to use !&- etc as you have to switch to numbers then to exclamations...
I was wondering if anyone have found a better keyboard (perhaps like the iphone with everything on the one screen) but still takes advantage of the screen size?
JetMouse, you know you can easily customise the layout of PocketCM Keyboard to suit your needs? It's as easy as editing a text file to control which symbols appear on which buttons. Since I did that it's easily become my favourite software on my Touch.
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JetMouse, you know you can easily customise the layout of PocketCM Keyboard to suit your needs? It's as easy as editing a text file to control which symbols appear on which buttons. Since I did that it's easily become my favourite software on my Touch.
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No I didn't know this - can you run me through how to do it?
JetMouse said:
Hi I'm currently using PocketCM Keyboard which is better than the default but a bit frustrating when having to use !&- etc as you have to switch to numbers then to exclamations...
I was wondering if anyone have found a better keyboard (perhaps like the iphone with everything on the one screen) but still takes advantage of the screen size?
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I use SPB Keyboard (the new one, version 4.0) with fullscreen mode. The non-fullscreen mode is pretty much iphone-like. Don't know if it's "better" - to my taste the stock one is just perfect in all respects except for lack of support for Russian, which I need. Unlike most other keyboards, it has arrows which compensate the absense of the dpad on the device.
Sure thing:
Connect your PocketPC to your computer so you can browse the contents of the device.
Browse to \Program Files\PCMKeyboard
Copy English.layout (or whichever one you're using) to your computer's desktop
Make a backup of the file, just in case
Open the live file with Notepad
You can see four lines labelled keyboard_layout_#=
Edit the characters in those lines to change the symbols on the keys in PocketCM Keyboard
Each of the four lines contains a complete template for the keyboard. Rows are separated by the \n (newline) combination
There are some shortcuts to create special-purpose keys:
\2 seems to be uppercase
\1 seems to be lowercase
\b is backspace
\M is the symbol/text toggle button
\N is the enter key
There is a way of including smilies or combinations of characters on single keys, but I can't remember how. I also can't remember how to edit the row of quick symbols you see if you hold down the '123#?' button
Once you've made your changes, save the file on your computer and copy it back over to the PocketPC.
You'll need to choose a different softinput thing and then go back to PCM Keyboard to see the changes.
Don't forget to save the file somewhere in case you upgrade to a newer version of PCM Keyboard.
My favourite keyboard is Tengo. Allows very fast and forgiving typing. You might like to try it. I hope it works on Touch HD cos I have not got one to try on yet.
They have a free version, a commercial regular version, and a commercial thumb version.
the best keyboard for me is touchpal from http://www.cootek.com/
so many improvements
prospects said:
the best keyboard for me is touchpal from http://www.cootek.com/
so many improvements
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is it compatible with the TOUCH HD
Touchpal
I think Touchpal is the best.
iznee said:
is it compatible with the TOUCH HD
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I just tested it, yes it is 100% compatible.
I love this keyboard, but I am trying to get it to run using the Dutch language. It is so blazing fast and accurate in English using the suretype layout, it's not even funny. I SWEAR I cannot type faster using a hardware keyboard, simply because of the fact that it is just as accurate, has big enough keys to type blind, and you don't actually have to depress a button so... works for me
Still stuck with the trial version though...
Only thing that I still gotta get used to is switching keyboards using a finger slide, I just keep pressing buttons instead of triggering the slide really cool function though as it saves button space and basically is just cool to show people
Thanks for the tip people!
EDIT:
Got my own language it in it now, easy... Also really easy to switch languages... Just pull down the ABC key and pick one. This does reveal some non-skinned ugly winmo buttons though, even while the rest of the keyboard is Diamond skinned.
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I think Touchpal is the best.
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Completely Agree, it is very usefull, Fast and easy to use Keyboard
TouchPal
I would at least try the demo of this. I personally prefer TouchPal to a Blackberry hardware keyboard. I am serious. The seplling correction and word prediction is simply amazing. Completely altered my view of software keyboards.
BTW- I am 6' 2" and weigh 220 with BIG hands, and Have been happy with TouchPal since the first Touch.
The semi-qwerty keyboard cab file is available if you google it. However after installing it, I realize the accent key on my physical keyboard does not work anymore.
This is the answer I got on the other forum:
can't be help, because the key actions are defined according to the keyboard layout, and the default layout which includes the accent key is being overwritten by the cab file. You probably can revert back to stock keyboard layout and the semi-qwerty/full-qwerty/phonepad SIP, but you probably will lose the T9 function.
alternatively, use the symbol key to type the accent characters.
Does someone knows how to solve this problem so both Full/Semi Qwerty and physical keyboard work together.. especially cause i'm using Croatian letters čćšđž
THX
I just realized I have the same problem. Maybe someone can help us have both accent letters and Touch HD virtual keyboard...
Is this only registry problem or maybe have to change some dll? anybody?
Up! Maybe someone has an idea.
nothing to do?
blackstone keyboard is the best but we wan't to resolve the accent issue...please help!!
nothing?
You could try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=479464
Doesn't mess with the àü key.
Ok, I tried that keyboard, but it doesn't restore the accent key functionality. Maybe after a hard reset, but I wanted to avoid it.
Same problem here. Blackstone keyboard does my "au" hardware key unuseful - it dos not work.
Also T9 does not work with hardware keyboard.
I think HR is the only way for me - and you at this moment
Would SPB Keyboard 4.1 work without messing up the accent button? Is it any good?
I have the same problem, but with the Touch Diamond 2 keybord. It's really annoying
I had to lose all my data to update the firmware. After that I tried the SPB Keyboard and it's really good. It has layouts for a lot of languages and the accent key works.
ive used version 1 of this and it did not mess with my keyboard. this is the new version that just came out. i havent tried it because version 1 is working good enough for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487677
news.....?
Finger Keybord 2 ??
Hello
Dont know if im the only person but do other people find the button on the keyboard to change betwee XT9 and ABC and the "minimize keyboard" buttons annoying as when you type it always darn changes or gets activated.
Does anyone know of a fix's for this, or any chance of someone making one for me as I would be extremly greatfull??
Regards
Damian
02coled said:
Hello
Dont know if im the only person but do other people find the button on the keyboard to change betwee XT9 and ABC and the "minimize keyboard" buttons annoying as when you type it always darn changes or gets activated.
Does anyone know of a fix's for this, or any chance of someone making one for me as I would be extremly greatfull??
Regards
Damian
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Have you considered an alternative keyboard? Fingerkeyboard, for example, is very popular. This link is to the last release, which is obsolete, but it has some images on it, and a link to the latest version...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487677
I personally like the default keyboard, but that one's not much different, but with extras
Hope this helps
I second that.
I like the original keyboard a lot, but the XT9 is kind of useless for Brazilian Portuguese.
If there is any way to definetly disable it, to prevent the annoyance of accidentaly turn it on, I also want to know...
Third that... really2 need a program to disable the T9...
love the original keyboard.. but the T9 button is bugging me..