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Battery life on XDAIIi

Hi All - Did a search but couldn't find much about any 'battery life' problems with this device.
I'm experiencing poor battery life on my new XDA IIi. This is my second machine (o2 replaced the forst one due to poor battery lifery life and dead pixels on screen)
I just wondered what others are experiencing...I tend to have the phone switched from 8am til 6pm. The signal strength is good and I have wifi and bluetooth turned off.
Here is a typical set of figures for the battery through the course of my typical day
8am 100%
9am 84%
10am 75%
11am 61%
12am 50%
1pm 41%
2pm 32%
3pm 19%
4pm 11%
5pm 6%
6pm 3%
O2 say that the battery is at fault...but they've changed the battery twice and the unit once, and it's much the same. My guess is that something is draining the battery, but there's nothing special about my set up as far as I know. it's running a 1 gig SD card...but I took that out to see if it made a difference - it doesn't
Even with the phone switched OFF for extended periods of time, the battery doesn't seem to survive the day - I certainly cannot get to 8pm in the evening without having to charge it up.
I just wonder if the behaviour is fairly normal! If someone else out there is able to offer me some advice, or better still, some comparable figures, that would be helpful - just so I know it's not just me!!! ))
Alternatively has any one got any suggestiosn as to what might be draining the battery? (I'm always in a strong signal area for the phone)
Thanks

Hi I also have an XDAIIi.
My battery seems to be a lot more stronger than yours :?
If I don't use my XDAIIi at all, it can last about 4 days on standby, by this I mean phone on, wi-fi and bluetooth off. I have installed a LOT of applications on it and nothing seems to drain the battery.
My backlight is on full, my SD Card is always in.
If I use the phone say for about 30 minutes every night, then it lasts for about 3 days, still as the set-up above.
I find that if I am constantly using it, it will last about a day.
I am probably being pedantic, but as you probably know, rechagable batteries, in particular Li-Ion. Then they benefit from being run-down completely and leaving dis-charged for about 12 hours, then trying to turn them on again, (i.e. soft re-set) and then leaving them to turn off (almost instantly) Then whilst the XDAIIi is in it's "dead state" put it on charge using the mains charger and leaving it charging for about 3-4 hours. Then take it off charge and turn it on again.
Batteries don't like being half charged then run down a little then charger again.
Also the complete run-down time of a battery will only reach it's fullest after a couple of run-down and full re-charges.
This is what I do.
Hope it helps.
lydiachris
ps. the strenth of your signal should not make any difference. I am also in a strong signal area.

Battery...
Wow! Yours seems much better than mine with batteries. I just can't figure out what's wrong here and its very frsustrating - new battery..new XDA2i seems to make no difference, so it MUST be something I'm running...but there's nothing running in the background at all...very strange
Thanks anyway..at least I know it IS possible to get better battery life
S

Just out of interest, what mAh is your battery which came with your XDAIIi.
Mine is the standard 1300mAh
Lydiachris
ps. write me a list of what software you are running.
pps. Kettering??? Very near me Peterborough!!!

Battery woes...
MIne came with a 1300...but I bought a spare via the O2 shop that came with a 1200 :?:
I've got hundreds of progs on the XDA. Do you mean a list of ones that are running on startup?
Thanks
PS USed to live in Werrington!

do you have bluetooth or wifi or both turned on all day ?
is the pda on all the time or off and only the phone on ?
is gprs turned on all day ?
IR is it set to recieve all incomming beams?
how long before the backlight turn itself off ?
how bright is the backlight set to be ?
many many factors

Battery troubles
do you have bluetooth or wifi or both turned on all day ?
Both OFF
is the pda on all the time or off and only the phone on ?
Phone scheduled to be ON between 9 and 7pm
is gprs turned on all day ?
..Nope
IR is it set to recieve all incomming beams?
..Nope it's Off
how long before the backlight turn itself off ?
..1 minute
how bright is the backlight set to be ?
..about as low as it can go :lol:
As you can see, I've switched OFF most things to get drainage down to a minimum. As this is my SECOND device (o2 replaced the first one - same problem) and I'm trying out a second battery...my deduction is that it *MUST* be software related. I may be wrong and I'm hoping someone can point me in a different/new direction
I had a lot of hair when I bough this device - now I've very little left :wink:

Make sure lock all buttons is engaged, second set turn lcd off after 30 sec, third turn off device after 1 minute and you should be dialed in. If this does not work, preform a hard reset then repeat process. Do not install any additional apps/progs! Now if it works try installing one proggy at a time and test the device. It is most likley that there is a program running a daemon that is killing your XDA-IIi
Mikee

One more note. If you do a hard reset, which if I where you, I would, pay attention to the setup screen on the hard reset. When you see the O2 personal user corporate user screen, preform a soft reset with your stylus immediately! Then you will not get the O2 garbage and Icons.
Mikee

battery power
hi
just got a xda2i and my battery doesent last long also my car phone charger wont charge it up quickly enough when its being used i took loads of stuff of but no difference.
regards kevin

Thanks Mikee
Hi Mikee
Thanks for your advice. I'm a little uinlcelar how a hard reset will help. This is NEW machine, I only got it last week. How does a HARD reset help the bettery management?
Make sure lock all buttons is engaged,
Done
second set turn lcd off after 30 sec,
Done
third turn off device after 1 minute
Already switches off after a minute
and you should be dialed in.
ehhh?
not sure what you mean

Re: Thanks Mikee
stevep said:
Hi Mikee
Thanks for your advice. I'm a little uinlcelar how a hard reset will help. This is NEW machine, I only got it last week. How does a HARD reset help the bettery management?
Make sure lock all buttons is engaged,
Done
second set turn lcd off after 30 sec,
Done
third turn off device after 1 minute
Already switches off after a minute
and you should be dialed in.
ehhh?
not sure what you mean
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There is a fault with your device - under Consumer Service Guarentee you can return and have it replaced immediately as these goods are definetly NOT fit for purpose.
Mind you, you should hard-reset and double-check, but I'd say you've got a lemon flavour there.
Tkae heart, if you're the only one then it should be easy to fix!

My XDA ws the same when i first got it ... i'd deffo agree that the battery needs to be "optimised"
after a week or so you should notice a difference.
Heavy use of mine, ie listening to ,mp3s all day will take it down to about 15% (9 till 4 ish)
I have WIFI , bluetooth off
screen to the lowest brightness
power off after 30 seconds
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I just thought ..... You dont have the "Turbo mode" on do you ?

Battery on XDAIIi
Hi Guys - Thanks for your advice. What I find hard to believe is that this is the SECOND device where the battery life is c***. All my instincts tell me it's NOT the device - this is the second one they've sent me - nor the battery (as I'm now on my THIRD one)
I really want to avoid a hard reset because of the time taken to reinstal everything afterwards. I lead a very busy business life :? , and I just don't have the time to 'start from scratch'
...but I guess I will, if enough people tell me a hard reset will sort it :wink:

i did a hard reset but it didnt make a difference and when i spoke to 02 they were very quick to exchange it and when i spoke to the guy he said i should expect it to crash every so often like windows does on a computer i disagreed with this abd explained my xda2sw didnt crash like this one did.
regards kevin

stevep, in that case why don't u just make a complete backup of ur IIi, then perform a hard reset..
Sometimes the apps installed are the cause.. Also take note that switching to 'Turbo Mode' all the time will drain the batt pretty fast..

Battery drain - hard reset
Thanks for your reply - it's appreciated...but I don't understand how a hard reset helps. Yes, I can back it all and restore it, but surely that'll just put the problem back on the XDA (if it's an app thats causing the drain) :wink:
Can anyone explain (from a techy point of view) how a hard reset MIGHT corrrect the battery drain problem :shock:

Have you checked your turbo button under start, settings, power and then the processor speed? if you set it on turbo, it will eat up the battery VERY FAST. If else, I am using one and I am Happy with the battery life.

I've actually tested it with turbo 'on' and 'off' and I didn't notice much difference either way. It's actually on 'standard' currently

stevep said:
I've actually tested it with turbo 'on' and 'off' and I didn't notice much difference either way. It's actually on 'standard' currently
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backlight - min??
turn off the backlight after 30sec??
button lock except power button??

Heat Problems with Niki.....

Hi,
i have noticed that my phone is very warm when i make a phone call with it, yesterday i had a long phone call, about 1 hour and the phone crashed during the call (no blinking led, no reaction from the display, nothing). First i thought the battery was low, i pluged the battery charger in the phone but nothing happens, no blinking LED, no reaction from the phone. I took out the battery and pluged it again in but notting happend. After 30 Minutes i tryed to turn the phone on again and it worked.
So i think this was a heat problem.
I have the Firmware from Tom installed and the Radio Version RUU Nike Radio 1.58.16.27.
Has got any one noticed the same problems ?? I hope this is not a hardware bug.

well phone gets warm from time to time - but nothing one should worry about. do you use 3g ?
also i use the latest modded kaiser radio from netrunner and personally feel battery life is much better and also signal.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369502
phone crash may have various reason of which the most are software related.
as from your description it appears like it was a heat problem but again - i never heard that before ....

no i dont use 3g at the moment, 3g was turned off.....
i hope this happens not again, i only had this one time yet. we will see on the next phone call that takes longer what is happening.....

mine gets very warm at the bottom too. It is normal I think.

I have a constant connection to the net via gprs now as when i have a constant 3g/hsdpa connection the phone is hot. The phone is also hot when charging. Maybe they will add some tweaks to improve the batterylife and temp like powerstepping or something to reduce the power used when its not needed and also lower the temp.

Hmm... This seems important. I find that leaving it constantly on, and for example, chatting via some type of IM app really makes it warm. I'm going to use my extended battery tomorrow, and see how it lasts. Wish me luck!

I have a problem with Niki heating up, but it heats up heavily when charging; using acbPowerMeter i read 700mA .. when in standby it says ~45mA. With a Tytn i didn't noticed a heating problem when charging.
Did you ever read the current when you noticed the heating ?

sackbauer said:
well phone gets warm from time to time - but nothing one should worry about. do you use 3g ?
also i use the latest modded kaiser radio from netrunner and personally feel battery life is much better and also signal.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369502
phone crash may have various reason of which the most are software related.
as from your description it appears like it was a heat problem but again - i never heard that before ....
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THANKS FOR THAT ADVICE!!! running the modded kaiser rom and its ultra low battery consumption!!!

Atom Life

Hi All,
my atom life was working perfectly only had it for 4weeks (eBay) then notice battery was getting VERY hot this only started 2day's ago, i changed the battery same thing fone still works then lockup and will charge the battery tho lol. have tested the battery on my xda no prob.
Just wondering if any1 had any tips to try and fix this or should i look for another fone with screen fault, missed out last week $75 screen was cracked
Tia
Oyama

upgrade
try upgrading new rom...had similar prob with o2 neo it worked...may it also work here

phone battery normally gets hot when charging or using wifi.
If it gets very hot, then you should be worried.

Hi,
My atom life cannot read the storage card? Any advise that I can fix this? thank you for your time.

I've found that when connected to a power source, access to the memory card is flaky at best. Taking it out and reinserting it several times will eventually reveal it but it will soon disappear again. In my experience the oonly sure fire way to be able to read the card is under battery power only. However, I'd also make sure that the card in question is working with another device just to rule out the possibility of a faulty card....
Hope that helps

What capacity is your card?

maniac2403 said:
phone battery normally gets hot when charging or using wifi.
If it gets very hot, then you should be worried.
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hm.. my atom life the batt getting hot and then can not charge.. indicator of light (red) turn off.. why?

Battery problems

I have the T8585 HD2, recently ive been having troubles with the battery...
I was getting intermittent battery drain for no apparent reason, the back of the phone would get very hot. Searching I found that this had something to do with the SD card not being formatted properly, did this and havent had this same issue since.
Last night I charged the phone while on my PC, was approximately 80%. I wake up this morning and the phone is dead, wont turn on. So i plug it in to charge again and then it starts to do the soft reset loop thing, I just left it go for about 6 or 7 loops and then it seemed to settle. I look at the battery capacity and its 0%.
This explains why it was dead, but why the hell is the battery draining to nothing over night? I did not notice it getting hot last night and it was dead cold this morning. Battery terminals are not bent as some others have suggested as a cause for this.
I really like the HD2 but this battery thing on top of the poor capacity for the this type of phone is really starting to disappoint.
I have not messed with ROMs yet, so its running the following that i got with the phone...
ROM 1.66.707.1 (76641) WWE
Radio 2.06.51.07
Any ideas on this would be helpful!!

Same phone, same software
I have exactly same phone & software, I upgraded rom to this 1. But have had no problems with phone at all. Few soft resets at 1st, but then started deleteing messages, shutting down programs in background, no problems since. Hope you get figured out,,

I'm having the exact same problem. I've had the phone since November and, although the battery doesn't last like it used to, since about 2 days ago the phone has gone haywire!
I haven't installed any new apps or used the phone any differently than usual but, after getting readings of between 15 - 20mA in standby (with Battery Guard) I'm getting on average 490mA now in standby! Crazy! The back of the phone is getting so hot that I'm actually worried that it might do the phone damage and, like the OP, I'll go to bed with a full charge and wake up with the phone so dead that I have to pull the battery before I can start to recharge.
I've removed some of the PDF files and other things that might be causing slowdown etc due to but there is definitely a problem. Does anyone have any ideas of what kind of things I should look for that could be causing this before I contact the insurance guys for a replacement?
Thanks in advance

Im having a similar problem with my HTC raphael with WiMo 6.5 Roms didnt tried if the problem exists in 6.1.

My phone is fine today, was 100% last night, 95% this morning. Im starting to think this is a software issue not hardware due to the randomness....

richo27 said:
...... Im starting to think this is a software issue not hardware due to the randomness....
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funny you put it this way.... its actually the other way around.... nevertheless i understand what u mean (off-topic, just couldn't resist ;-) )

when the power usage jumps from 20ma to 490ma and gets very hot the battery has started to fail - don't be surprised their qualty is hit or miss. I'm on the T8585 HD2 (1.66 rom) since November and a few weeks ago the battery would get hot in standby and battery life dropped by half. I popped in a spare battery and problem instantly went away. I've since bought a 1,300 mha battery from Mugen, phone runs great again.

Hi. Had a similar thing with the battery drain, but the last few night I have put the phone on charge as normal and in the morning I have Nealy dropped the phone because of how hot the back was. Any ideas?

Happened again today, fully charged last night, 0% this morning. Very unhappy about this, this is a serious reliability issue that a $700 phone shouldn't have.

I would suggest checking your task managers processes, I had a process - Filesys.exe that was using 98% of my processor for long periods of time and absolutely eating battery life.

Yeah i have installed battlog to see if that will shed any light on the problem...

Did u try hard-resetting ur device?

no, im trying to avoid that at this stage, I want to find the source of the problem.

Had the same issue. Phone worked very well for a few months and then this battery drain + overheating issue started all of a sudden. Tried hard reset, disabled 3g and problem continued. Finally, got my phone replaced with great difficulty and problem solved!
Anyway, check the signal strength. One of the issues could be the phone trying to connect repeatedly when the signal is weak. You can also try to disable data connections to see if that causes the problem (Disable all autoupdates like email, twitter, weather and so on).

S5 SM-G903F overheating

Hi everyone, I have a problem with my sister''s phone (SM-G903F) , after the last charging it's draining extremely fast battery with 1%/minute. Even with phone turn off and battery inserted , the area around sim card is overheating in just a few minutes and battery drain extremely fast. I replaced the battery with a new one .... no effect .I have accessed the battery usage in settings and I saw that the screen consumes 100% although the brightness is 50% and the screen darkening time is 30 seconds What may cause this problem and what could be the solution ? Before to send it to service center I wish to try your ideas. Until then I must keep the battery out of the phone. Thank you for any help

Trasorv said:
Hi everyone, I have a problem with my sister''s phone (SM-G903F) , after the last charging it's draining extremely fast battery with 1%/minute. Even with phone turn off and battery inserted , the area around sim card is overheating in just a few minutes and battery drain extremely fast. I replaced the battery with a new one .... no effect .I have accessed the battery usage in settings and I saw that the screen consumes 100% although the brightness is 50% and the screen darkening time is 30 seconds What may cause this problem and what could be the solution ? Before to send it to service center I wish to try your ideas. Until then I must keep the battery out of the phone. Thank you for any help
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Well everything I can say is reinstall stock system or less using

I already did this. ........no effect of course