Hi,
What's the difference between ROM and Extended ROM on Athena device?
How to look at their content?
Thanks.
ROM is the main operating system, extended rom is hidden but download total comander and type in '/Extended_ROM' to access there you will find all the programs installed by default and as such you can delete the ones you dont need like blackberry tmob settings of home pages on internet explorer and add your own so when you do need a hard reset it will install all your fave progs
spzero said:
ROM is the main operating system, extended rom is hidden but download total comander and type in '/Extended_ROM' to access there you will find all the programs installed by default and as such you can delete the ones you dont need like blackberry tmob settings of home pages on internet explorer and add your own so when you do need a hard reset it will install all your fave progs
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is there any way to have it open for install other programs?
spzero said:
ROM is the main operating system, extended rom is hidden but download total comander and type in '/Extended_ROM' to access
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This doesn't work for me...
Try \\Extended_ROM
jmdrizen said:
Try \\Extended_ROM
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Something turned up, or to be exact: Nothing turned up. It seems that Total Commander thinks it is a network adress...
Does the Extended ROM need to be unlocked like the Unverisal?
I just did a hard reset and now Opera doesn't work (same problem as thread ...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307645&highlight=Opera+launch). It sounds like the program CAB is in the Extended ROM, but I am unable to see it either. With my universal the Extened Rom had to be unlocked. I'm not sure is that the same with my HTC X7500. Anyone know?
Thanks.
I think the correct input is "\extended_rom" (without the quote). It should work.
Ollisshop, you should be able to go the entended rom and reinstall opera. First, the generic opera, then the customized opera cab.
I have just downloaded Beta 2.5 - is this the latest? I can't delete anything from extended rom - does it need unlocking, if so, how?
Thanks
PS - appologies for noob questions, I am learning!
eaglesteve said:
I think the correct input is "\extended_rom" (without the quote). It should work.
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It does! Thanks a bunch!
Thank you !!!
Wow it worked. This took me hours on my Universal to figure out. You guys are great.
Now with all this extra time, I'm also going to install NetFront and compare it to Opera.
Glad I found this forum, it is very informative...
I used the Quick Page Pool Size Changer found elsewhere on this site earlier, changed the size to 6mb, and all seems well with my Wing. I use SPB Backup and perform daily backups. My question is if I do a hard reset, will my pagepool be set back to default? If so, am I correct in understanding that I would need to restore from a backup made with the revised page pool size, not an old "master backup" from a prior, pre-adjusted page pool, backup file?
Thanks for your help.
Not sure about the second part, but if you hard reset, you WILL need to redo your page pool
Pagepool is written in the internal ROM so doing a hard reset will NOT get rid of this because it is ROM (read only memory). If you write a new ROM to your device (Pdaviet, touch-it, etc) you will have to redo the hack.
After writing this I'm not particularly sure about the accuracy. I don't know how the Quick Page Pool Changer works (if it's different from the long and painful method).
The quick page pool method is quick. haha.
All you do is install a cab, then run a Batch file for the size page pool you want... it's way too easy.
duprade said:
The quick page pool method is quick. haha.
All you do is install a cab, then run a Batch file for the size page pool you want... it's way too easy.
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Yea I wouldn't worry about losing the pagepool thing, it's sooo easy to redo
Thanks guys.
Second question/clarification: I made a "master backup" of my Wing (using SPB Backup) after a hard reset, and after I installed only the "bare minimum" third-party apps I use. No extras. A small backup I know I can use to just get up and running. This backup was created before I did the page pool quick fix. Is that "master backup" now useless, since I have done the page pool fix after creating the backup?
If I hard reset my device, do I have to redo all the page pool stuff again?
susan4794 said:
If I hard reset my device, do I have to redo all the page pool stuff again?
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I don't think so.
genaldar said:
I don't think so.
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If you hard reset your device, you wipe your device clean - back to factory settings (similar to reformatting a memory card). Apps, tweaks, and settings have to be configured again, (including the Page Pool). If you are going to hard reset your device, ensure that you back-up everything on your pc or memory card.
Well if you have a cooked rom and the default is say a 4mb page pool it will stay at that because that is technically the "factory settings". But if your normal tmobile wing rom it will go back to the original page pool.
How do you know what your page pool is?
How can I check my page pool? I followed the instructions to use quick page pool, and it seems like i might have more memory - lol- but how do I check to see what my current page pool is?
thnx!
The stock memory on my Wing upon flashing the RUU was
Storage
39.44
8.09
31.35
Program
43.87
32.20
11.67
help..... how to dump my hd2 rom so I can flash it later. so everything stay the same and I don't have to install all cabs again and setting. I'm a noob, I'm also trying to find out how to make my own clock and icons. thanks
i don't think it is possible to back-up your current rom n settings.
corlygunnz said:
help..... how to dump my hd2 rom so I can flash it later. so everything stay the same and I don't have to install all cabs again and setting. I'm a noob, I'm also trying to find out how to make my own clock and icons. thanks
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Check the Energy ROM thread. There is some talk of it in post #5.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784
i did it with my o2 rom just to see how to do it, but in all honesty i won't be doing it again. No point when the rom is available to download, and it doesnt save settings anyway. Ive posted teh how-to just because you asked about 'dumping the rom' so it will no doubt get hits from epople wanting to know how, and not just people like you wanting to backup, not dump.
dump the .raw partitions, reading step one in THIS first post will help.
Then set up ervius visual kitchen and use the 'raws2nbh' function to rebuild the raw files into the .nbh rom file.
BUT, it wont save your rom as it is now, with all your settings and such, it will only dump the rom as it was when you first ran the phone.
Far easier to just download the stock rom from somewhere.
Plus the rom you create even though it is stock will still be seen as a cooked rom by teh phone, so you would need hspl installed to flash it.
So, you need to look more into backup software, like sprite backup, PIm backup, or sashimi/makisu, or the like.
thanks very much. I guess I stick with backing up the settings and flashing the stock rom... thanks for the feedback again... ps: the point was to have the rom just how out was when dumped...
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thanks very much. I guess I stick with backing up the settings and flashing the stock rom... thanks for the feedback again... ps: the point was to have the rom just how out was when dumped...
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Yea, i know what you mean.
I found a cooked rom that i liked, and the chef also offered the kitchen with it. (which means i run the kitchen, press 'build' and fifteen minutes later the rom is created, ready to flash.)
Then, knowing i have a rom that i already like, i can start to make small adjustments. Progs that i normally have to reinstal every time i have converted to cookable packages, various registry tweaks that i used to instal from cab every time i have now cooked in.
A great way to get an easy intro into cooking, but because it's already built you aren't starting from a stock rom, facing weeks of tweaks. Instead i know i already like the rom, and i can slowly apply extra tweaks as i learn.
Look out for rom threads who offer 'comes with kitchen'.
ChuckyROM is the one that comes to mind, but there are others too.
I now have cookies home tab mod pre installed, and right from the start it has my layout, and all my quicklinks already there, as well as most of teh cabs i used to instal manually already built in, owner name pre set, home location/timezone etc etc all pre set, my own lockscreen, i've removed tons of unused images and language files, and such like.
My rom is down to around 145MB. (Stock is around 200MB+).
Best of all, i cooked in 'remotetracker', so if my phone gets stolen/lost, , even a hard reset wont stop it being trackable.
Fun stuff, if you dont mind spending a few hours at a time cooking/flashing/re-cooking/flashing/re-re-cooking, , , hehe
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I now have cookies home tab mod pre installed, and right from the start it has my layout, and all my quicklinks already there, as well as most of teh cabs i used to instal manually already built in, owner name pre set, home location/timezone etc etc all pre set, my own lockscreen, i've removed tons of unused images and language files, and such like.
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how can I pre install, the layout and quick links on cookie too my rom, I'm a noob, I got this new rom I like and a want to tweak it, its going to be my first rom. can you or someone direct me to tutorials for cooking and tweaking.... I'm a quick learner. lol
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how can I pre install, the layout and quick links on cookie too my rom, I'm a noob, I got this new rom I like and a want to tweak it, its going to be my first rom. can you or someone direct me to tutorials for cooking and tweaking.... I'm a quick learner. lol
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well its not that simple. when a chef cooks the rom, it is usually protected, so you cant just dump a cooked rom. Thats why you have to get a pre built kitchen for that rom.
Sadly there is no simple step by step for all this.
THIS thread is for OSKitchen, which is pretty good, and fairly straightforward.
I suggest you just get a kitchen, dump a stock rom into it, and just have a look around it for a while first, so you get the idea of what you are facing.
Follow posts 1 - 4 and that should give you an evenings tinkering to get started.
Or there is ervius' visual kitchen, which isn't quite so straight forward, but works really well for me.
Reading HERE and HERE and HERE
and lots of reading in 'Chef Central'
However, to get immediate results, i found it far better to start with a pre built kitchen.
HERE is the one i first started to tinker with.
I gave up on kitchens a half dozen times in the past months, it just seems so overwhelming, which is why a ready made rom i could make minor tweaks to came in so handy.
thanks allot, I'm going to get to it right away. I'll post if I hit a wall.
how do i cook cooki home tab. is not working, is the anything i got to do?
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how do i cook cooki home tab. is not working, is the anything i got to do?
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convert it to an ext package, which will generate a folder with various files/subfiles, one of which is a reg file, edit that, add your registry entries (extracted from your currently running phone, using ceregistry editor ((if you dont already have them, immediately you finish reading this go get wincecab manager, ceregistry editor, and look up CAB_Converter too.)))
Use cab converter to change the cab into an ext.
as always, the best advice is to read everything, then read it again, hehe.
A working example.
connect your phone to usb, open ceregistry editor, click connect, browse to HKLM\software\HTC\manila\Home There are 80 or so numbered folders, Thats for the quicklinks.
In the tree view on the left, right click the folder Home and choose 'export'. A file save dialog will open, call it something like home, OK. You should get something like '81 keys exported'
Now, browse to the folder where the converted cookies EXT is, find the file 'app.reg'. Double click to open it in ceregistry editor, you will see a similar registry view as you saw on the phone, except with loads less entries. Find HKLM\software\HTC\manila\Home, select the home folder, hit delete, confirm, its now gone.
Go to top of ceregistry editor - hit Edit - Import registry keys from file.
Now, by default it will be looking for .reg files, but we exported ours as .cereg, so change the filetype dropdown to 'all files'.
Find your 'home.cereg' file we exported, click it, you will get a 'sucessfully imported,....blahblah', hit save, and now, when you cook the rom, your quicklinks will already be there as soon as the phone first boots.
Use SPB backup
Use SPB backup. Works wonders. I have a backup for the 3 or 4 roms I run. So all I have to do is load the rom, load spb backup and restore the backup and all my settings, email accounts, facebook and the such is ready to go.
fhaines
fhaines said:
Use SPB backup. Works wonders. I have a backup for the 3 or 4 roms I run. So all I have to do is load the rom, load spb backup and restore the backup and all my settings, email accounts, facebook and the such is ready to go.
fhaines
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i just got me the spb backup, and is working great for me. thanks.
The simple solution here is SPB Backup...
EDIT: oops, jumped the gun. was already suggested. xD
glad you got it figured out
samsamuel said:
use the 'raws2nbh' function to rebuild the raw files into the .nbh rom file.
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This step is much more complicated than it sounds. Any possibility that you could include instructions for this?
Thanks!
ohiosux said:
This step is much more complicated than it sounds. Any possibility that you could include instructions for this?
Thanks!
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sure you want to bother? it wont save your settings as they are now, so you are essentially dumping the stock rom as it was when you got the phone (Assuming you're running a stock rom that is, if its a cooked rom it probably wont convert anyway)
All (most) of teh stock roms are available to download, so its an accademic task only, , , ,
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sure you want to bother? its an accademic task only, , , ,
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Actually, yes. I realize its redundant work, but I don't see how I could ever become a proper "chef" if I can't even manage to dump a ROM.
ohiosux said:
Actually, yes. I realize its redundant work, but I don't see how I could ever become a proper "chef" if I can't even manage to dump a ROM.
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hehe, well, ive only done it once, so you know as much as me, , get ervius vis kitchen (im sure other kitchens can do it too, just i use evk) click extra buttons, top left button is raws2nbh, follow the prompts.
You dont need to do this to cook, you know that? the kitchen will import a downloaded stock nbh, no need for the dump to get a kutchen working.