Hi,
What's the difference between ROM and Extended ROM on Athena device?
How to look at their content?
Thanks.
ROM is the main operating system, extended rom is hidden but download total comander and type in '/Extended_ROM' to access there you will find all the programs installed by default and as such you can delete the ones you dont need like blackberry tmob settings of home pages on internet explorer and add your own so when you do need a hard reset it will install all your fave progs
spzero said:
ROM is the main operating system, extended rom is hidden but download total comander and type in '/Extended_ROM' to access there you will find all the programs installed by default and as such you can delete the ones you dont need like blackberry tmob settings of home pages on internet explorer and add your own so when you do need a hard reset it will install all your fave progs
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is there any way to have it open for install other programs?
spzero said:
ROM is the main operating system, extended rom is hidden but download total comander and type in '/Extended_ROM' to access
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This doesn't work for me...
Try \\Extended_ROM
jmdrizen said:
Try \\Extended_ROM
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Something turned up, or to be exact: Nothing turned up. It seems that Total Commander thinks it is a network adress...
Does the Extended ROM need to be unlocked like the Unverisal?
I just did a hard reset and now Opera doesn't work (same problem as thread ...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307645&highlight=Opera+launch). It sounds like the program CAB is in the Extended ROM, but I am unable to see it either. With my universal the Extened Rom had to be unlocked. I'm not sure is that the same with my HTC X7500. Anyone know?
Thanks.
I think the correct input is "\extended_rom" (without the quote). It should work.
Ollisshop, you should be able to go the entended rom and reinstall opera. First, the generic opera, then the customized opera cab.
I have just downloaded Beta 2.5 - is this the latest? I can't delete anything from extended rom - does it need unlocking, if so, how?
Thanks
PS - appologies for noob questions, I am learning!
eaglesteve said:
I think the correct input is "\extended_rom" (without the quote). It should work.
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It does! Thanks a bunch!
Thank you !!!
Wow it worked. This took me hours on my Universal to figure out. You guys are great.
Now with all this extra time, I'm also going to install NetFront and compare it to Opera.
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Hi,
Can someone point me to a simple Extended ROM Unlock tutorial because I just can't manage to find my way through the Forum.
I'de like to place my favorite apps in ROM...
Thanx
The General
GeneralPatton said:
Hi,
Can someone point me to a simple Extended ROM Unlock tutorial because I just can't manage to find my way through the Forum.
I'de like to place my favorite apps in ROM...
Thanx
The General
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well general, depends on the OS you are using..
if you have rom version 1.6.x.x it won't work easy yet.
the pre 1.6.x.x roms are quite simple, download totalcommander for ppc, install it, run it, in the adress-bar type "\extended_rom\" without the " " 's, and voila, there they are..
good luck..
ps.
the search button on top of this page would give the oppertunity to search for words as extended rom in de wizard forums.. :wink:
Ok
Thanx works fine with TC
Just a last question, all cabs i place in extended_rom will install automatically after hard reset ?
'cause I saw i had a autorun.exe file in there and some sutomization cabs that install after Hardreset ???
Thanks
The General
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GeneralPatton said:
Thanx works fine with TC
Just a last question, all cabs i place in extended_rom will install automatically after hard reset ?
'cause I saw i had a autorun.exe file in there and some sutomization cabs that install after Hardreset ???
Thanks
The General
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There's a config file in there too (can't remember it's name off hand, but it's fairly obvious). This has a list of the cab files to install after a hard reset. I guess you'd need to add your cab files to that list as well as copying them to extended ROM.
Dox
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GeneralPatton said:
Thanx works fine with TC
Just a last question, all cabs i place in extended_rom will install automatically after hard reset ?
'cause I saw i had a autorun.exe file in there and some sutomization cabs that install after Hardreset ???
Thanks
The General
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depends, some have a config.txt file, if you open this one and edit it to your
needs, the files you put into it will be installed after hard reset, if you
set the right parameters from the txt file.
other roms have the autorun.exe wich installs all the files in the extrom.
i'm not sure anymore if this is right, but i believe that if you rename your
cab's like this:
applicationX.cab -> Default_applicationX.cab
it will install without any problems.
if you have problems with unsigned cabs, you can use the signed.patch
wich can be found on the ftp.
On my Cingular 8125 the extended ROM is write protected, does anyone know how do I remove the write-protection?
jsnipper said:
On my Cingular 8125 the extended ROM is write protected, does anyone know how do I remove the write-protection?
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Only way around is to flash an older rom into your handset..
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nmx77 said:
GeneralPatton said:
Thanx works fine with TC
Just a last question, all cabs i place in extended_rom will install automatically after hard reset ?
'cause I saw i had a autorun.exe file in there and some sutomization cabs that install after Hardreset ???
Thanks
The General
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depends, some have a config.txt file, if you open this one and edit it to your
needs, the files you put into it will be installed after hard reset, if you
set the right parameters from the txt file.
other roms have the autorun.exe wich installs all the files in the extrom.
i'm not sure anymore if this is right, but i believe that if you rename your
cab's like this:
applicationX.cab -> Default_applicationX.cab
it will install without any problems.
if you have problems with unsigned cabs, you can use the signed.patch
wich can be found on the ftp.
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Hi
Could tell us where on the ftp we can found signed.patch?
Bye
Herc. 8)
Here it is
i couldn't find it on the ftp anymore as well..
i'll put it there again, but here it is for you
if it's that easy to get into extended rom, then why do people release the unlockers for extrom? i don't get it.
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if it's that easy to get into extended rom, then why do people release the unlockers for extrom? i don't get it.
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you can access the files on the extended rom, but you can't edit any of the information there. you have to flash a new extended rom image for any changes to take effect. I think those that are looking at the extended rom unlockers is for a different purpose. I think I read somewhere that it let some people use the extended rom space as extra storage (~10 megs), but it messed up applications on the phone, especially the camera.
in general, it doesn't seem to be a good idea to unlock the extended rom. most rom builders look like they are trying to learn how to edit this properly to add it o their rom kitchens.
can one's extended rom go curropt?
after i heard about this, i went into extended rom just to see if it works.
and it did. i exited total commander and started to gather my anti theif program to get installed.
now I go back into extended rom, and everything became gibberish!
and when i click on something it says "error 3 Changing to dir!"
WTF is going on!
can someone help me out?
I just discoverd that I cannot modify the extended rom (using Total Commander, etc.) How does one unlock it so tht it may be modified?
Thanks,
Frank
fmcgirt said:
I just discoverd that I cannot modify the extended rom (using Total Commander, etc.) How does one unlock it so tht it may be modified?
Thanks,
Frank
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It can, just try again anad again, i did it on my 4th attemps
Cheers!
Thanks for the response but I haven't had any success after several tries. I tried installing the Wizard unlock cab file and afterwards with Total Commander, I can reset the Read Only bit on all the files and copy the files to my SD card. However, I am unable to delete any files. They appear to be deleted but come back after a soft reset. I would like to especially get rid of all the operator settings files. The rest of the stuff like Skype, Anti Virus and Backgammon I can get rid of using Settings>Remove Programs.
Frank
Isn't "ROM" short for "read only memory"?
hi, I am using Buzz's unlocker for Wizard... it made the ExtROM visible but still it is read only
I need to find how can I delete and add files to it.
Any challenging minds out there?
Total commander does not work with the jamin in my case anyway.
Tried several time with no results.
shahzadkhan15nov said:
hi, I am using Buzz's unlocker for Wizard... it made the ExtROM visible but still it is read only
I need to find how can I delete and add files to it.
Any challenging minds out there?
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hi,
unlocker for wizard is not mine...
buzz
...well, if anyone can give me a dump of Prophet's bootloader + clean registry export, i can take a look at it..
buzz
Buzz,
Thanks for the great offer.
I can give you the clean reg but how can i get you the first part, bootloader thingie?
Regards
I have used the Wizard Extended ROM unlock program to unlock the ROM on my Prophet. I now have a copy of the Extended ROM on my SD Card. I'm not concerned about erasing the Extended ROM files, I just don't wan them installed, so I did a Hard Reset and just when it says that it will start installing the additional prorams in 3 seconds, I did a soft reset.
OK, now I have a Prophet without extended ROM. I can now install the stuff that I want.
Most of the cab files I've figured out, Does anyone know what the following extended ROM cabs do? This is from the latest Imate Jamin ROM.
Default_CAAVPPC_IMEI_2.6.77_range.CAB
Default_Imate_PPC_SA_V5.5.03.cab
Default_MP_Shortcut_MMS1_JAVA_VOICE_CV_051213.CAB
Default_PP_TSK.CAB
Default_PP_UAString.CAB
Default_PT_Signed_IconDll.sa.CAB
Default_PT_Signed_Patch_SD.sa.CAB
Thanks heaps,
Matterhorn
Default_CAAVPPC_IMEI_2.6.77_range.CAB is the anti-virus app which used to play havoc in slowing down the KJAM. Maybe this version is better but I uninstalled it using Remove Programs. About the rest I am not sure. At least you don't have Skype, backgammon and the Operator Settings files so I expect you will gain a fair amount.
Frank
you can use wince cab manager to see the content of the cab file.
Still nothing? Guess I will go the way of Matterhorn when I need to do a hard reset. Several others have not installed the Extended ROM at all and have reported significant speedup in the JAMin.
Frank
That would be me. I haven't installed one thing off the extended rom and my speed is really pretty good. You can see a video review at the link below to compare the m600 and the jamin (with no extended rom). Keep in mind I don't use mms, skype, antivirus anyway....so no big deal to leave off the ext rom. I also use adobe and don't need the clearview .pdf. Hope the video helps
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=849592
Thanks, Mike. I don't use the stuff either except MMS once in a while but can just as easily use email for that. I presume Voice Dial is in the Extended Rom but rather have MS VC anyway and things like Connection Manager, Messaging, etc., that I want are not in the Extended ROM so I should be fine.
Now to find time to do a hard reset and re-install my apps.
Frank
Everyone has diffrent issues, I was able to delete the files from there (verified by refreshing the dir, and I recieved no read only error) but I was unable to write files to it, which I thought was very strange, I am using APA_ext_rom_unlock.exe and it does NOT give me the success msg it acts like it hasnt even ran. I updated my ROM to teh test one that was floating auround 2.8.7 whatever, and I realized too late that aWizard has no way to reflash teh extended ROM so I am without all my Cingular apps and I have all the 2.8.7 Extended rom stuff with the 1.8 Cingular OS ROM which I reverted back to. Any suggestions how I can replace my extended ROM ?
any luck so far?
Hi guys,
Are we getting any hope/luck to unlock Ext ROM for JAMin/Prophet?
I don't know how you guys are doing it. I have tried several times to delete items in my extended rom using total commander, at least 10 times and the result is the same. After the hard reset all that was deleted was re-installed after the reset.
I have contacted TC a while ago, and have not heard anything, maybe they are working on it.
Just curious....as I'm new to this ext rom stuff....but why don't you just "not install" the ext rom. Then use gsfinder to install whichever .cabs you want? If any? Just curious as I may be missing something. :roll:
mikewchandler said:
Just curious....as I'm new to this ext rom stuff....but why don't you just "not install" the ext rom. Then use gsfinder to install whichever .cabs you want? If any? Just curious as I may be missing something. :roll:
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No, I think the end result would be pretty much the same. For me I would like an Extended ROM for the JAMin that includes exacty what I want installed - no Backgammon, AntiVirus, Smart Dialing, Skype and a single Operator Settings file for TMO USA. Then when I hard reset I don't have to mess with anything else, just let it go. I had my KJAM setup that way and I would like the JAMin to be the same. I would also be as close to an OEM install as I can get (without the junk) so I don't have to worry about proper default settings not being there because of some file I didn't install or installed in the wrong order. Having said all this and thinking about it more I am sure you would get to the same point doing your procedure and then installing the required .cab files in the proper order.
Now I have a question:
Wonder what would happen if I did a hard reset, then did the soft reset to stop the Ext ROM install, installed the required .cab files in order, soft reset and then restored from a Sprite BU file. Wonder would I be restoring any files that could cause problems due to an imcomplete ROM install? I guess I will have to try that first since I do hate to re-install a bunch of apps and especially have to re-enter all the reg codes.
Frank
Hi Guys i own a imate JAMin that i bought and it has telstra branding on the phone/pda, it isnt locked to this carrier, but i need to get rid of there loaded stuff on the pda
what i need to know is a few things if possible please
1. is there a walk through somewhere on how to change the rom to a standard one
2. where can i download a new rom from
3. can i screw it up bad ?
any other help would be great
Thanks
t0ne
Easy, just download Total commander from http://www.ghisler.com/
Open it up and at the top type \Extended_Rom
This will show the contents of your extended rom, you will see loads of things but the ones you want are the cabs relating to your provider. Or all providers actually, Delete allt the cabs that dont start with Default_ these are what brand your device when you hard reset.
Now just hard reset, it will isntall all the normal stuff but will leave you with a brand free jamin.
Hi dannyoneill,
thanks for the program, only problem i have is how do i add the jamin to it so that i can see it and do what u r saying ?
thanks
You need to download and install Windows CE FS plug-in. You will then see a mobile device entry in the file window. I recommend dragging it to the toolbar so you will always have a button for convenient access (total commander can open files directly form the device).
Also I don't remember it now, but if you search this forum there is a registry tweak that will unhide your extended ROM so you can use it for extra storage space (and manipulate files in it using regular explorer both on device and PC). You can use the free PHM Registry editor to apply the tweak.
Just follow the instructions to install total commander onto your PPC. Make sure you click the link to the mobile version and not the desktop version.
thanks dannyoneill, got it working..
jsut a few other questions if u dont mind
im in the \Extended_Rom folder with the default stuff but the telstra stuff i want to get rid of has Default_Telstra_australia_SA_UN_V2.20.CAB and also Default_Australia_Telstra.CAB as the file names, will these be ok to delete still ?
thanks
Yes, you can delete them.
If you really want everything here is safe to delete. What it usually contains are patches like driver updates, applications like the backgammon, antivirus and Skype.
Below is taken from another post, its a little out of date but still good to see whats what. For me. I removed all the operators apart from my own (as it doesnt brand) plus got rid of backgammon, antivirus (totally useless on a PPC) and skype as the latest version is better (especially if you apply the registry fix to get it working)
Autorun.exe
Default_Backgammon_PPC_IMAM001.CAB >>> Backgammon
Default_CAAVPPC_IMEI_Wiz_range.CAB >>> THE DREADED ANTI VIRUS STUFF
Default_CAB-shortcut-CDL-08Sep05.CAB >>> Clearview PDF
Default_cdl_wwe_version.cab >>> Some Imate stuff (Harmless)
Default_ie_view.sa.cab >>> Some Imate stuff (Harmless)
Default_Imate_PPC_SA_V5.5.03.cab >>> Some Imate stuff (Harmless)
Default_SkypeForPocketPCnonxScale.CAB >>> SKYPE FOR NONE XSCALE !!!
Default_SmartDialing_enable_0915_signed.CAB >>> The pretty Dialer and smart-dialer stuff
Install_Tsk.exe >>> This Installs all the “Default_” Files
Setup.exe >>> This allows for Selection of the “Operator Settings”
These are the “Settings” which is not needed at least in the GULF STATES
KPN_Nederland.CAB
MTN_SouthAfrica.CAB
O2_UK_Contract.CAB
O2_UK_PAYG.CAB
Optus_Settings.CAB
Orange_Nederland.CAB
Orange_UK_Contract.CAB
Orange_UK_PAYG.CAB
T-Mobile_Nederland.CAB
T-Mobile_UK.CAB
Telfort_Nederland.CAB
TelstraClear_NZ.CAB
Telstra_Australia.CAB
Virgin_UK.CAB
Vodacom_SA_WAP1.2.CAB
Vodacom_SA_WAP2.0.CAB
Vodafone_AU.CAB
Vodafone_Nederland.CAB
Vodafone_NZ.CAB
Vodafone_UK_Contract.CAB
Vodafone_UK_PAYT.CA
I made a copy of all of the above to an SD card BEFORE DOING ANYTHING else (NoBackUp…learned his lesson……Harry Potter !!!)
So I Reduced my ER to Just
Autorun.exe
Default_Backgammon_PPC_IMAM001.CAB
Default_CAB-shortcut-CDL-08Sep05.CAB
Default_cdl_wwe_version.cab
Default_ie_view.sa.cab
Default_Imate_PPC_SA_V5.5.03.cab
Default_SkypeForPocketPCnonxScale.CAB
Install_Tsk.exe
Setup.exe
How just simply Delete !!!
Don’t forget to hard reset let the imate setup run (will not only install the stuff you did not delete) and try out your new toy.
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dannyoneill thanks heaps,
deleting those to files worked a treat
thanks again
t0ne
Poll for sticking this 3d!
THANKS !!!
..._
P.S.: may I install basic stuff to the ExtROM while it's hidden ?
Or, if I need to unhide it, install, then re-hide, will such software still playable ?
I mean for example:
- Total commander itself
- Resco explorer
- Storage tools
- Sprite Backup
- and so on...
Is it a strange idea ?
Thanks again for this illuminating thread.
You can unlock and install things no problem, not done it myself, done know if they will still be usable after its re-hidden i would think not.
The extended rom is reserved so empty or not its not going to give you more ram or rom storage at all. The best thing to do is unlock it and use it for storage. The annoying thing is if you hard reset you then have to re-unlock it.
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dannyoneill thanks heaps,
deleting those to files worked a treat
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BTW, on the i-mate website's JAMin support pages, you will find specific operator settings for Optus in a downloadable CAB file, which will setup the wireless settings for your device.
Hola to all:
I need help. I have installed in my Qtek S200 the program SKINVODAFONE .
It has changed the format of screen of the telephone (menu to mark when we realize a call) and it has put it that of Vodafone.
I would like to change again the format of this screen to which it had in a principle, the standard format .
Thank you very much for your help and HAPPY YEAR!!!.
Try going to Start->Settings->System->Remove programs and uninstalling the program.
If that doesn't work you may need a hard reset, but then you will loose all you data.
Thanks levenum , but it already had tried it.
To do a hard-reset is the only thing that happens to me also, but what he would need to avoid the hard-reset is the program that installs the original screen or standard of the Qtek frees.
Certainly , I am not the only one interested in changing this screen to Qtek's original screen, in the Spanish forum also he has been interested.
One more thought:
There should be a Qtek extended ROM on the FTP. One of the cabs there should have the dialer installation.
levenum said:
One more thought:
There should be a Qtek extended ROM on the FTP. One of the cabs there should have the dialer installation.
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On the FTP... excuse but that it is the FTP?
That you want to say, that should install the standard EXT-ROM? But then would it lose all the information and installed tricks, not?
FTP - File transfer protocol. Mainly describes the server on which XDA holds different version of ROM for HTC/QTEK devices.
And yes, you should install the standard EXT ROM. You need to do a full back up and then restore your data not to loose existing data. Your device will be wiped!!
I would strongly suggest to think twice before installing a new ROM if you are a novice.
Just my .02cts
Hold on just a minute.
No need for drastic measures yet.
This is the link to the FTP: ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com
You can access it with IE or any other FTP capable browser or client.
User name: xda
Password: xda
You do not need to reinstall all of the ext ROM or format your device. All you need is to look for the cab file that installs the Qtek dialer (I assume Qtek ROMs do not use standard Win Mobile dialer, the ugly blue thing).
Copy this cab to your device and run it like a regular program installation.
levenum said:
Hold on just a minute.
No need for drastic measures yet.
This is the link to the FTP: ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com
You can access it with IE or any other FTP capable browser or client.
User name: xda
Password: xda
You do not need to reinstall all of the ext ROM or format your device. All you need is to look for the cab file that installs the Qtek dialer (I assume Qtek ROMs do not use standard Win Mobile dialer, the ugly blue thing).
Copy this cab to your device and run it like a regular program installation.
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Thank you very much for your help!
But I need a bit more... I cannot accede to the link that you indicate me, it says to me that Windows does not have access to this folder, say me please since I can accede to locate the cab?
Thank you very much again.
You need to type it like this ftp://xda:[email protected] or select 'Log in as...' from the file menu.
You should really do a Google search and read up on how to use ftp.
I had quick look and there don't seem to be cabs in the prophet section, but look around, a cab from another devices, like wizard (don't remember it's Qtek name) should do, since this is just a dialer.
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You need to type it like this ftp://xda:[email protected] or select 'Log in as...' from the file menu.
You should really do a Google search and read up on how to use ftp.
I had quick look and there don't seem to be cabs in the prophet section, but look around, a cab from another devices, like wizard (don't remember it's Qtek name) should do, since this is just a dialer.
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As far as i know the qteks use the ugly blue dialer (standard microsoft item + smartdialer)
Juan what exactly is wrong with your dialer - a screen shot would be helpful.
btw no need for caps in your title - it appears like your shouting
Hmm, well there is always ZenPhone, they have some nice skins...
(Unless you feel like doing hard reset, as that is a definite cure).
levenum said:
Hmm, well there is always ZenPhone, they have some nice skins...
(Unless you feel like doing hard reset, as that is a definite cure).
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Hi levenum - i think the vodaphone dialer has messed up the layout of his dialer - your tip it may work
also see here http://zombienexus.net/
btw levenum still using lvmtime on my new orbit with aku 3.0 - i found the clock on the top bar was in the wrong place - so using yours - cheers!
i think the vodaphone dialer has messed up the layout of his dialer
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That's what I figured from the posts too, so i guessed installing any 3rd party dialer should work.
Perhaps then if he uninstalled it the phone would default back to the 'ugly blue'
still using lvmtime on my new orbit with aku 3.0
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Always glad to hear
levenum said:
You need to type it like this ftp://xda:[email protected] or select 'Log in as...' from the file menu.
You should really do a Google search and read up on how to use ftp.
I had quick look and there don't seem to be cabs in the prophet section, but look around, a cab from another devices, like wizard (don't remember it's Qtek name) should do, since this is just a dialer.
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Again thank you for your help. I have been looking for some cab and have not located it.
For all those who has problems with the new dopod wm6 network error you can now copy these files into your windows folder it will ask to overwrite select yes to all and then you can reset (optional) go into settings again and you will see another network icon which can be used for all.
You can use total commander which i think is the best file explorer
link
http://rapidshare.com/files/45618413/htc_network.rar
Thanks
duttythroy said:
For all those who has problems with the new dopod wm6 network error you can now copy these files into your windows folder it will ask to overwrite select yes to all and then you can reset (optional) go into settings again and you will see another network icon which can be used for all.
You can use total commander which i think is the best file explorer
link
http://rapidshare.com/files/45618413/htc_network.rar
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Cheers for that duttythroy.
I had done it manually before, but prefer the automation of the wizard.
mackaby007 said:
Cheers for that duttythroy.
I had done it manually before, but prefer the automation of the wizard.
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no worries just sharing the same way I have been doing in the hermes forum.
I posted also a new thread for radio upgrade only tested and fully working.
duttythroy said:
no worries just sharing the same way I have been doing in the hermes forum.
I posted also a new thread for radio upgrade only tested and fully working.
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Nice...nice
This isnt working for me, I copyed them to the windows folder, but it didnt ask me to overwrite anything, no change in settings, I dont suppose you know what the manual settings should be, I thought I had found them on this site, but I think it was for Germany, it didnt connect anyway.
thanks in advance
John
its okay I found the correct settings
Does this only apply to European network providers or Worldwide?
thanks.
This didn't work for me either, I get a error in program message
any ideas how to add other networks that the ones in the package?
sunnyg said:
This didn't work for me either, I get a error in program message
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same here
how do you override the files it says they are stored in ROM?
I alrady have network wizard on x7501, i just want to add the providers