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Hi, I am a new user to
A) this web site
and
B) this Phone. 5 days so far.....
I dont know if my topic heading is quite correct but I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.
This phone seems to have so many names, anyhow, mine is on Orange here in the UK and called a SPV M3100
Right, only thing that gets on my nerves a bit with this phone is there is no
T9 "predictive text input" like I am and have been used to with Nokia phones for the last 7 or so years.
What I mean is, you all know how you write a text message on a Nokia with predictive texting. using just your thumb etc.
What I am after is, is there some software / program I can download that would make the screen like a keypad within the send SMS program. so it is easier to text.
Because unless I am mssing something. The only way to text on the ORANGE version is either with the slide out keypad, or with the virtual keypad and stylus ???
Thank you for reading this and perhaps you can advice me.
To get T9 with a normal style phone looking interface you can install the PhonePad application which is available here on this site (its linked in the Hermes Wiki):
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/Phone Pad - English Only.CAB
You can also use the Block Recognizer, Onscreen Keyboard, Letter Recognizer, Symbol Pad and Transcriber as well as the slide out keyboard on a standard M3100.. In fact I think the options are the same as any Hermes?
Hi, I'm very keen on buying the P3600 and am just wondering about a couple of things - firstly, not having used a touchscreen before, how easy it texting using the on-screen keypad. Secondly, an odd question, but one I've been wondering about - if you're viewing a web page, but are holding the P3600 in landscape (or sideways) when you use the scroll button which way does the page scroll - horizontally or vertically?
Thanks
Vertically.
Texting is fine on the Dopod D810 - I use the stylus and keyboard only now but if you prefer Phone Pad style, there is one installed too. I just don't like the way it requires you to select the word from the prompt list rather than just display the word in the msg straight away. If you're ambitious (& patience), you might also like to try the Transcriber with your hand-writing
TenGo text entry
Anybody tried TenGO Thumb and if so, does it integrate well with the Trinity and more importantly is it easy to use?
Thanks for all your help so far.
I've tried to install TenGO before but couldn't get it to work. Right after that, I found PhonePad and haven't looked back. For long texts/emails, I use Spb fullscreen keyboard...no stylus necessary...
Hi
i have tried to install TenGo and this phone pad, oh and a couple of other alternate keyboards, and try as i may i cannot get them to show up. They exist in the list, both as an alternate input method and as an option on the keyboard choice pop-up. A soft reset after picking one still returns me to the original keyboard.
Am i missing something really obvious? If so where should i start looking?
Banafish, what is 'Spb fullscreen keyboard' - is it a stand-alone application?
Try using the iPhone-like keyboard. Love it for texting.
Of all I've used so far, thats the most comfortable, especially in landscape mode . Not only the keys are big, it also doesnt eat up all your screen space when writing like that of spb keyboard (which is good for writing essays, which I'll never do).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296455
SPB fullscreen keyboard is an application:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/fsk/?en
You can install/uninstall it like you would any 3rd party app. Once installed, it will appear as an input option and you can access it that way. I have it mapped to one of the hard buttons so that I can just activate it when I need it.
tjw2007 said:
Banafish, what is 'Spb fullscreen keyboard' - is it a stand-alone application?
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Does anyone know if there's a sip out there that shows how many characters you've typed...because you really need to know when you've reached the 160 characters limit for a single text message?
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Does anyone know if there's a sip out there that shows how many characters you've typed...because you really need to know when you've reached the 160 characters limit for a single text message?
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I thought you can see this in the default message window, just that you need to close the text input panel first.. or scroll down the window.
ok, I just got tengo keyboard to work. Not for fast one handed operation, although you can try tengo thumb. There's a free 'lite' version of the regular tengo keyboard available.
Anyone ever tried using Fitaly? I managed to get upwards of 40 words per minute using that, even sometimes hitting 50 wpm. I installed 3.5 on it though, and it slowed down my phone so much, I had to take it off.
New cab with working files (all three keyboards) no key appearing fixed and some other bugs (still a couple popping up though) can't wait tell JUVS and some of the other guys get more of the new apps working. Thank you theloanranger !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336587&page=10
Cab file was be switched to new one
Didn't see anyone working on this in this section (seems focused in Elf right now) thought I would put it out there, seems you can get it working on non touch devices
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1595623&postcount=29
nice sig with rampage, fedor and don fry
aaronsmckee said:
Didn't see anyone working on this in this section (seems focused in Elf right now) thought I would put it out there, seems you can get it working on non touch devices
forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1595623&postcount=29
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works!
it works on my orbit, would like to have dutch language support though...
htc keyboard
can we have vga theme for key board?
no good on my hermes !
leoiden said:
no good on my hermes !
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damn i'll try on hermes too ....and on my artemis ....
but in my ce emulator it also didn't work fully correct....
sometimes i just get black buttons....
It works on my Trinity (WM6) but not the symbol page. But I'm ok with it. Like the 'intelligence' of this over T9, but the scroll left and right (on screen) button is a bit too 'small' and near the edge for ease of scrolling. If that can be fixed, it will be even more perfect.
no good for elf
when i set in french language they a are no letters on keypad
thank you
Anyone manage to 'perfect' this beta version?
While it is useable, without the symbol can pose some inconvenience when you need the symbols.
It works fine on my touch. To get the symbols in blue you press and hold the key. It takes a little getting used to so you don't end up with .. but it does work.
For those getting blank screens, this should only happen when you bring up the keypad without selecting a text field. Meaning if you are in a selected text box the keys should display.
Another bug I found was if you install this keypad and then choose another one that you have installed (pocketCM, HTK, etc), it will not display any text. It's like you are typing in white. The cursor advances, but no text displays. I had to un-install this keypad to get my other input methods to work.
It may sound a little obsesive, but I timed myself using this new touch dual keypad and my pocketCM skin (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1597831&postcount=21) and every time I was able to type faster and more accurate with the pocketCM version. It was close (1:11 vs 1:08) for a couple sentances. I'm glad to see HTC putting a real finger operational keyboard on the Touch, but for now I will stick with pocketCM.
works on the mogul, install, soft reset...
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It may sound a little obsesive, but I timed myself using this new touch dual keypad and my pocketCM skin (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1597831&postcount=21)
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Nah man, that's a great idea. I think a "type-off" of sorts is a good way to determine what's best; although everyone has difference preferences, I think 90% of us subconsciously type the same.
any status on a new version that works a little better?
thx.
e..b
working on Hermes!
Its working fine on my Hermes WM6. Still get the blank buttons when trying to use it outside an application. But within application (e.g. Onecontact, IE ect..) all working fine. Even symbol key is working fine.
Its a great keyboard (esp. the T9 version)...First keyboard where the buttons are large and responsive (iv used sooo many now!).
btw...dont forget to softreset after installation before use!
No symbols
I get all the characters and numbers but the symbols are all blank. I am in the UK. Otherwise it's okay. I personally don't like PocketCM because unless there is lots of free memory it just pops up the default keyboard for me.
is there any way to turn the xt9 off i used the keypad for 5 mins adn when i switched to the normal keyboard the xt9 was still there.. can it be turned off?
^^yeah I found that incredibly annoying, I LOVE this keyboard but I had to uninstall it because the T9 would be there even when using the hardware keyboard!
Can anyone post any pics of this keyboard?
Yeah...T9 still there on hardware keyboard is really annoying!
I have the 16 key touch dual.
So on input options, you have the touch keypad, when I select that sometimes this comes out (please see attached)
I like it thought better than the 20 key touch keyboard.
Yeh... Where?
I second this, it works really well but there is no option to bring it up on the dual... it just randomly appears sometimes when you need to input text.
Thirded.
And whats more, why does text input seem to vary on web pages?
I've got some where it defaults to numeric input when it should be alpha numeric (ie. passwords), others where XT9 seems to be off (the subject on mails in facebook).
Its so stupidly all over the place and inconsistent! If I could just get this one to pop up all the time I'd be happy.
Doesn't that keyboard show when there's no text entry field?
And yes, i want it too, why would they disable it for normal usage?
Yeh I have found the keyboard to be all over the place when it comes to deciding if it will give you tx9, abc, 123, etc.... Anyone know a way to set one of the two alphanumerics as a default at least?
ok ive had this appear a few times now but couldnt figure out why, as you have been asking for it i have been playing around and think i know what is causing it. you may not need everything listed below but these are the settings on my device if you play around with them you should be able to narrow it down.
I'm running Toms rom, found here
i have disabled threaded sms by using the second setting here
i have enabled the favourite people button on the htc home screen by deleteing the key here
the only other app i have that may have changed a setting is the HTC home customiser.
After making these changes tick the enable xt9 setting in romsettings app, exit the app, then go back into it and untick the enable t9 setting, after closing romsettings you should have the keyboard shown in the second screen shot
as far as i can see this changes the keyboard in all applications
Thats great! Still albeit of a noob so you lost me somewhere there, is there a way to this on the stock ROM?
short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
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short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
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Ok will try that thanks. On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
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I wish, this has been a problem since the phones release - theres 7 pages on it here
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I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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thats the default action anyway, with the changes detailed the keyboard is available when entering text, if you look at the second image you will see that the cursor is actually in the message box, its the black line at the end of the word hello
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I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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Eh? Maybe I overdosed on the thick pills last night, but that doesn't make any sense? If I click on a password field in IE, sometimes the main phone keypad always seems to default to numeric entry. But clicking in the field itself pops up this lovely keyboard.
It really does make no sense at all. There doesn't appear to be any standard/global keyboard settings.
And this is in v6 of WinMo, you would have thought they would have got the basics right by now, but the darned sent items has the useless option of "order by from" - when all the sent items are sent from the same person.
Its got plenty of potential, but it just seems like lots of separate teams were implementing it, doing their own thing without any centralised discussion/design.
Has anyone managed to get this to work with the standard T-Mobile [UK] ROM ?
any updates on this as well? it would be nice to just get an option for this
I got it to work, rather by chance, but thing is after that, I could switch to back to the touchpad type anymore.
I installed POCKETCM KEYBOARD. After doing that, somehow it locked this keyboard in when I choose touchpad.
Its rather a workaround, but for those who to use it premanently, you can do it
it also shows up at times when you are entering a password
Ouch ! I read to quickly and did'nt see the word "permanently" !
It does the same for me after installing pocketpc keyboard and even after uninstalling it !!!
Did you find a way to get the classic keyboard back ? This one is nice but there are some important keys missing as "." and a key to hide the keyboard !
Thanks
EDIT : The installation of Resco Keyboard got all the original settings back + Resco Keyboard of course.
So if you need to use the famous "hidden HTC keyboard", simply install Resco Keyboard and then Pocketpc keyboard.
You will then have your classic "touch" keyboards replaced by the "hidden keyboard" (+Resco Keyboard installed of course).
But to my mind, Resco keyboard alone is better...
I have just upgraded to the new official WM 6.1 ROM, and have noticed that before, when I would type a new text message and begin typing in the name of one of my contacts in the "To:" box, their name and number would come up so i could just choose it without having to type out their full name. Now I can not do that anymore, I am not sure if it is after installing the touch (original not diamond) keyboard because i never tried text messaging before installing it. Is there a way to get this feature back, because it is much easier than having to click menu add recipient.
Also, for the touch keyboard, is there a way to choose the full qwerty keyboard always, because whenever i try to make a new text message, I can only get the phone pad like keyboard (three letters per block) or the qwerty with two letters per block, is there a way to always get the full qwerty?
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I have just upgraded to the new official WM 6.1 ROM, and have noticed that before, when I would type a new text message and begin typing in the name of one of my contacts in the "To:" box, their name and number would come up so i could just choose it without having to type out their full name. Now I can not do that anymore, I am not sure if it is after installing the touch (original not diamond) keyboard because i never tried text messaging before installing it. Is there a way to get this feature back, because it is much easier than having to click menu add recipient.
Also, for the touch keyboard, is there a way to choose the full qwerty keyboard always, because whenever i try to make a new text message, I can only get the phone pad like keyboard (three letters per block) or the qwerty with two letters per block, is there a way to always get the full qwerty?
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It has been my experience that this is due to the Touch Keyboard. I had that same problem, along with characters not typing correctly when I used the hardware keyboard, that made me un-install it from my Sprint Mogul.
Also, it is a known problem with the Touch Keyboard that it will not let you select the full QWERTY keyboard. I know there is a fix for it by using an altered Touch Keyboard, but when I tried the altered one it also had the same problems as the original, so I un-installed that one as well. My advice to you would be to un-install the Touch Keyboard and use something else like PCM Keyboard, that is the one I use most.
Another thing, it might take quite a long time for the Touch Keyboard to un-install. I know I had to leave my phone sit for about 10-15 minutes with the wait cursor spinning around in the Remove Programs setting before it finally was deleted.
I hope this helps!
its not a keyboard problem thats how 6.1 is my phone does the same thing regardless of what keyboard im using
it seems to be a problem with the touch keypad, as after uninstalling it, I am able to select my contacts for a text message as soon as I begin typing their name. Thanks for the help.