Okay, so I had the Apache since it first came out, then it fell off my motorcycle last weekend, so I got a new phone (actually 2 new phones). I got the Herald (T-Mobile Wing), and the Titan (Verizon XV6800). I decided to test T-Mobiles phone with a 30 trial contract (I'm a loyal Verizon customer for 8 years), and get the Titan. Both of these phones are brand new (purchase last 2 days).
I'm pretty much going over all the same things I did when I had the Apache (ROM upgrades, skins, apps, etc...). I noticed the ROM on the Herald is different.
The Herald has ROM version 4.10.531.3 WWE.
The Titan has ROM version 2.09.605.8.
Herald has Radio version 02.83.90
Titan has Radion version 1.30.60
The Herald came with the Voice Command (which is nice), and the HTC Task Manager. The Titan seems to run a lot faster out of the box compared to the Herald, but this is probably due to the fact that T-Mobile installed so much crap on their phone.
Also, I noticed the keypad types much faster on the Herald as opposed to the Titan. I had to disable the sounds to get it to type as fast (fix?).
Anyways, I was wondering if there is any way to extract .cab files from one phone to another. Also if anyone has any questions about the phones, feel free to ask.
I understand the wing to have vastly inferior specifications to the mogul. I looked it up when my gf wanted a blackberry. I was trying to talk her into a wm device but I gave up when I found out that the only similar thing tmobile has to the mogul is the wing. The tmobile rep said that its successor is coming out later this year. I assume that it will be the kaiser or something similar. I think they are calling their new wm phones the shadows or something like that. (the tmobile rep was not to bright so I take what he says with a grain of salt. He said that it will be very much like the wing,with the sliding keyboard and all. I suggested it might be the kaiser,and he swore up and down it could not be,becuase they were calling it something like shadow II.)
In any event, the mogul has a much faster cpu than the wing. This comes with overheating however when you connect to the internet over cellular and use the wifi at the same time. I keep sending it back and complaining. Either they will fix it in a new revision,or they will have to upgrade me. I am not to happy as I paid a lot of money for something that does not work well,but there is no other phone that meets my needs for now.
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I was just looking at the Sprint website and they say the phone has WM6. My understanding from reading threads here and elsewhere is that everyone is still waiting for a WM6 upgrade. Did I miss something?
HTC MOGUL came with WM6 in Sprint shipping.
My HTC MOGUL came with WM6. I got mine in early July. Sprint customer.
mstevens said:
I was just looking at the Sprint website and they say the phone has WM6. My understanding from reading threads here and elsewhere is that everyone is still waiting for a WM6 upgrade. Did I miss something?
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Yes you did... The phone was released w/ WM6... only versions that were WM5, were the ones for internal testing....
Thanks. This makes some of my decisions easier to make!
Sprint Mogul also came with the newer rom version 2.09.651.3
The Telus P4000 came with WM5. I know Qwest Mobile has WM6 on it. Plus It comes with the cradle. They also carry the extended battery!!
the alltel ppc6800 came with WM5 but within a few wks we had wm6 update
Will
Sprint Mogul was due for a spring release but they waited so it would have WM6 (probably hoping to be more competitive against the iPhone ~ AS IF it is any competition anyway!)
I just bought an 8525 and realised I could have gotten the 8925 for less instead. Should I keep the 8525 or trade it within the 30 day window for the 8925?
If you decide you don't want to do it. Do it anyway and I will trade you my 8525 for the 8925
Trade it in. Get the 8925. Its better and cheaper. What more convincing do you need.
I just faced this same decision, and decided to stay with the 8525. Here's why:
1. The 8525 is a known device - lots of fixes for the things that don't work. The 8925 is unknown, and there have been lots of complaints without a lot of solutions to follow them up.
2. The 8925 only has the offical WM6 ROM - for the 8525 I can get several different WM6 ROMs to suit what I need.
3. I don't see the built in GPS as a big win. The extra memory would definitely be nice, but not worth the frustration considering #1.
In the end, it came down to just being happy with the unit I have - it does everything I need, and it does it well.
Brian.
Get the 8925!
I have been reading this forum for the last few days. And checking out what your guys are doing here. (I like it!) Now I have some question for some of the experts that will help me make the choice of selecting my new phone.
I have T-mobile USA an currently have a razr. Now I have been thinking of getting a ppc after reading some reviews and things like that I see the kiaser might be the best ppc availale.(This is what I get from reviews don't shoot me) at this time. But I'm not looking to spend that kind of money on a phone. Even though it is sim unlocked not cid unlocked according to reading here what the difference is.
1. Should I go with a T-mobile Wing or go for the HTC Herald? And what is the difference really between the two phones. One is branded the other is not. Or should I try for the next power house in line that would be an HTC Hermes (TYTN).
2 Now if I do that and choose one of the two unbranded phones. It's a possible chance that I will get one that doesn't have english Os (maybe buyng from ebay). And I would like to use the best Rom for that phone from here of course. I'm just thinking i don't want to brick the phone right away. So are there easy methods to cid unlocks on any of these 3 phones? I just listed so I won't have problems trying to flash to a new Rom. With branded or unbranded phone and english or non english Os? Really need help with this.
1. The herald is inevitably more expensive than the wing. if you like tmobile, i'd go with the wing. This is because its unlocked, no? Either way, eh. Anything unlocked will be more expensive.
2. Again, I wouldn't choose the unbranded unless you dont intend to use it with tmobile. Either way, you can call them and ask them to unlock it for you after a set amount of time. This sim-unlocks the phone. Now, for cid-unlocking, we have three choices- aserg's method, USPL, and Hard-SPL.
Aserg's was popular back in the heyday of Herald flashing. Nobody really uses it anymore
USPL writes a temporary SPL to the phone that allows it to be flashed.
Hard-CID replaces the phones SPL with a permanent one that can't be overwritten (i think).
IN conclusion, if you really want an unlocked phone, get a wing, wait 60 days, ask them for the unlock code, and unlock away. To flash a new rom, use USPL or Hard-CID. In the end, you end up with an unlocked phone with CID bypass capabilities.
If you had searched, you would have known that.
Ok let me be more specific here. I do appreciate the reply!
Now here is what I'm asking is the the unbranded Herald better than the T-mobile wing beside looks? (the wing is ugly looking compared to the herald) I will be using the phone on T-mobile service. I understand the price difference in the phone being locked or unlocked. And if so of going unbranded should I choose between Herald or Hermes? The unbranded phones would be sim unlocked not cid unlocked. As I understand and maybe have a different language firmware or Os other than english which I can't understand not bi-lingual. And the wing would be locked both ways but be in english already. If I was to cid unlock what is the most safest way to do so?
If your staying on Tmobile, get a wing. Theres no damn good reason not too. The difference between the two????? Color and I believe keyboard layout -- hence the idea of "rebranding." Same thing.
Get a Wing. Its prettier and unlocking it is a breeze.
People just love the deep, dark, almost pearlescent blue of my phone , as do I!
So there is no difference in the Herald or Wing. So what you are saying is leave the unbranded phones alone. Is the Hermes still a good phone to use unbranded on T-mobile service or just plain ol get the wing and call it a day and stop boggling my brain? I do appreciate the help guys Thanks.
try to find it here:
www.pdadb.net
and choose what you nee.....
IMO, I think that a PDA without a physical keyboard is almost pointless.
I know the basics of the phones. I was just asking for some hands on experience opinions. Best ppc hands down bang for the buck.
go for htc p4350..
my choice any day
Is there any particular reason you are saying go with the P4350? According to others as stated earlier they said go for the wing.
I'm partial to the Wing, but the Herald is just as good. I've seen the Wing selling on ebay for between 250.00 - 300.00 unlocked.
It's not about being lock or unlocked because what I plan on doing soon as I get the phone. I will flash it with a Rom from this site. So I'm looking to make sure I'm getting the best for the time being. Until I get an itch again for the upgrade bug. So here are my choices T-mobile wing, HTC Herald or HTC Hermes. And according to those here is that I would guess that the Wing being the most easiest to flash I assume???? But I'm looking for the best phone that I will be happy with a cool Rom from here with all the tweaks added.
This is to itje. Do you feel there are any huge differences between the p4350 and the wing? If you had any experience with both phone. Or are you saying this because you have a p4350?
Herald V/S Wing
Ok, let's make it very clear Herald and wing are the same exact thing, except one is unlocked and HTC branded while the other is made specifically for America and t-mobile branded. Now lets countdown the major differences good and bad.
The Wing-it's cheaper since it's made for american customers. It comes with Wm6 built in. Less expensive if bought locket with t-mobile. But it shoud'nt be a problem for you since you already have t-mobile.
Herald-Not made for american customers, so you have to buy it unlocked hence more expensive. COme with wm5 you have to manually upgrade to wm6. You get to register with HTC and reciev all the updates.
Bad stuff about having branded T-Mobile: it comes with Myfaves, this app takes up a ton of storage and program meory, hate htis s**t.
So these were the differences in Herald and the wing.
but if you do chose to go unlocked then the question is Tytn V/S Herald V/S Tytn II right. As you know the tilt or tytn ii is the best and the most powerfull phone on the market, but as you mentioned before it's expensive, really really expensive. But depends on how much you want to spend ATT sells it locked for $550, plus unlocking charge. If you want to specifically buy tytn 2 then it's like 600 to 700 dollars.
Now Herald v/s Hermes. Herald is slimmer and lighter than Hermes. Arguably better looking too. But the Hermes has a 400mhz procceser while herald only has 200 mhz. Hermes also has a second camera for video call(the American version dosen't have it) the herald dosen't. And finally Hermes also has 3g, the herald dosen't. But you won't be able to use 3G since T_Mobile USA, dosen't support it. I hope this answers all your questions. Tell me if it dosent.
i've been thinking of getting a Vogue for about $190 (is that a good price or can i get it cheaper?) so i can use Android. I currently have the Dare which sucks and its bugging out on me. I have been lurking and reading a lot of posts here to educate myself but i have a kind of network question...If and when i buy the Vogue i would have to upgrade my plan to include email and such on it which is an extra $15 a month, which adds up after a while. I can can talk the reps into not activating the email portion (yes they can do it and have before), but will the gmail app be usable on android??
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i've been thinking of getting a Vogue for about $190 (is that a good price or can i get it cheaper?) so i can use Android. I currently have the Dare which sucks and its bugging out on me. I have been lurking and reading a lot of posts here to educate myself but i have a kind of network question...If and when i buy the Vogue i would have to upgrade my plan to include email and such on it which is an extra $15 a month, which adds up after a while. I can can talk the reps into not activating the email portion (yes they can do it and have before), but will the gmail app be usable on android??
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Firstly, the HTC Vogue is currently going for about $50 bucks - whomever is selling you one for $190 is really REALLY liking your naivete
As for GMail app - its web based so you can access your mail as long as you have some data plan to access the internet
Detroit Doug
where can you find em for $50? (the verizon version)
I would say check ebay, but if you are planning on spending around $200 i say just wait a couple more days for the Diamond to come out.
not only best to wait and get your money worth, but also as long as your going to be getting a CDMA device dont worry about it being Sprint/Verizon or whomever, once unlocked you can use just about any service at worse you may have to install whats referred to as a carrier .cab (simple click, wait for install to complete, done)
Detroit Doug
for verizon
u can use the phone w/o data plan if u want. it is has numerous capabilities. if you need data you can add that as part of your plan. you can use texting plans also for texting. but if you want to send and recieve picts or flix you have to pay data. the verizon phones cases have a history of cracking. i guess the diamond is about to come out on verizon from the previous post. i would compare specs with the voque or "touch". the touch does not have wifi or g accelerator. the gps is locked on the touch by the verizon folks but the kind folks here and at ppg have ways around that.
so can i get full android functionality on the diamond?
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so can i get full android functionality on the diamond?
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I imagine you should be able to, I would research the Android threads as well as the Android help desk thread here and also review the diamond threads for anything related to Android first before making any purchases
Orignal Android was designed on the HTC Vogue, one of the reasons it came out and was ready to rock when it hit the forums as it did and just so your clear, Android is a linux shell, it wont replace the WinMO operating system, you just click on the haret.exe and it will boot up into a linux shell/os (unless there is a ROM out to flash the phone over to Android fully - I havent kept up on Android all that much to search for it LOL)
Detroit Doug
i know it only runs on top but it works very well on the vogue as an everyday OS which is what i want on the diamond...i have looked into it further and apparently development is slow. as far as i know right now they dont even have data, voice, or sound working. thank you for your help
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i know it only runs on top but it works very well on the vogue as an everyday OS which is what i want on the diamond...i have looked into it further and apparently development is slow. as far as i know right now they dont even have data, voice, or sound working. thank you for your help
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I have run it alot on my vogue a while ago, while impressed I wouldnt want the extra steps for day to day use with restarts of the phone and all
As for data, it does work, you just have to start IE, Opera, whatever and get a data connection before starting Android and you can browse all day
Sound was working last I knew (video/music)
As far as development though, Im not surprised its slow, its linux after all, not alot of app writers for linux let alone android porting to a winmo device especially when windows development can be hard enough to get right (Windows ME and Microsoft BOB anyone?? LOL)
Basically it boils down to if you want a phone, get a phone and get one that YOU want that will do what YOU want it to do, if its as a phone with data, internet, text your choices are wide open, if it is something with Android (which really at this point is a shiney new toy thing although usable somewhat for day to day) then pick up a Vogue or Diamond/Touch Pro and be ready to play with it and do alot of work to make functional - Just my opinion -YMMV
Detroit Doug
o ok then...do you know of any place that consistently updates progress on the development of this? everywhere i looked stopped updating in january some time...
I'd check with your carrier first before using another carriers phone. I know for a fact that Bell Mobility WILL NOT activate foreign phones.
I've been watching ebay for a Bell touch and the best ive seen is about $150... not much cheaper than buying a new one.. (a hundred bucks or so, but new is nice)
GG
the problem with that is i don't want to renew my contract (which enables the discount) so i am going to get one off of ebay and Verizon's open phone policy works perfectly for sprint phones that verizon also carries
well my DARE is crapping out and i have decided to go ahead and get a Vogue for under $100 and wait for the Pre to hit Verizon. i will throw money at that and be happy
Hi all,
I will recieve my first Android handset tomorrow (HTC Hero) and plan to use it until Autumn (Windows Phone 7 looks very appealing and I didn't spend much on this handset, it's not even on a contract). I am looking for some tips and advice on Android.
I was very well accustomed to Windows Mobile at one point, and very active on this site, but then stopped altogether - so I'm not a novice to flashing (I know what this could be seen to mean!).
I plan to read through various short guides over the next couple of days, before flashing a new ROM on my Hero tomorrow night. I intend to become as good (i.e. knowledgable) with Android as I can, in the next few months.
Is there anything I should know, read or look into/look out for?
Should I update the radio (is there a wiki entry on here for that?)
And recommened apps or ROMS and why?
Any general advice?
P.S. Will I regret buying the black version of the Hero? Is it a good choice?
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Hi all,
I will recieve my first Android handset tomorrow (HTC Hero) and plan to use it until Autumn (Windows Phone 7 looks very appealing and I didn't spend much on this handset, it's not even on a contract). I am looking for some tips and advice on Android.
I was very well accustomed to Windows Mobile at one point, and very active on this site, but then stopped altogether - so I'm not a novice to flashing (I know what this could be seen to mean!).
I plan to read through various short guides over the next couple of days, before flashing a new ROM on my Hero tomorrow night.
Is there anything I should know, read or look into/look out for?
Should I update the radio (is there a wiki entry on here for that?)
And recommened apps or ROMS and why?
Any general advice?
P.S. Will I regret buying the black version of the Hero?
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I popped into T-Mobile the other day and got myself an HTC Hero G2 and I like it, very customizable and you probably won't regret it. Depends how much you spend on the device cost wise because remember you will be going into a contract.
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I popped into T-Mobile the other day and got myself an HTC Hero G2 and I like it, very customizable and you probably won't regret it. Depends how much you spend on the device cost wise because remember you will be going into a contract.
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No contract for me. I paid around £165 for it ('virtually brand new, in perfect condition') and I've got T-Mobile's SIM only deal (30 day rolling contracts, basically). 100 minutes, 100 texts, unlimited internet for £10 - brilliant! I'll get the £15 tariff if I find 100 minutes isn't enough, but I use Skype, Google Voice and just email a lot.
£165,.. Thats a v-good price if its in mint condition!!... I paid £230 Less than a week ago and i thought that was good.
In regards to ROMs,... I flashed the latest Modaco ROM to mine the day it was delivered, it seemed abit smoother than the stock Orange ROM that was on it when i had no apps installed, but now iv loaded it up there is a tiny bit of lag, like a nano second, its hardly noticeable at all.
But there are so many ROMS to choose from, I think just swapping and changing between them till you find one that suits you is the best bet, but its not something I have the time (or patience) for. This is what i followed to update the ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645253 - [Guide] How to Root & Install a Custom Rom on Orange UK & T-Mobile UK [Updated 13/03]
As for the Radio update, definately do it. Im using a handset that is locked to Orange UK but using an O2 sim in it with a rebel sim. On the first day I only had 2 bars of reception most of the time, sometimes it went to 3 bars but not often. Since updating, it has consistantly been on 3 or 4 bars.
Check out this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=646465 (- Radio update advice please?...) about how to go about updating it.
As for apps, there are too many to go through, I'v just been googleing 'Best Android Apps' and seeing which ones will benefit me.
And lastly,.. Hellllll Nooooooo,... You definately wont regret buying one. IMO the white version looks abit more slick and has a teflon coating to stop it getting dirty but how dirty can a black (or graphite in my case) phone get?...
Im happy!
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