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Game Compatability

I want to try out a few games on my XDA2. Any recommendations?
Also what about compatability. I haven't seen the XDA2 listed as working with anything yet, but I'm sure that's not the case. For example with Doom, there's the following builds listed:
Doom4CE for Casio E-100/105/500
Doom4CE for HP Jornada 820
Doom4CE for Casio E-115,125, EM-500, EG-800
download Doom4CE for Compaq iPaq
Which one should I be looking for? In general, what PocketPCs are software compatabile with my XDA2.
Cheers,
Phil.

ipaq since i'm not too sure that those others are made for the arm cpu which xda and ipaq share

I just tried the RaymanUltimate demo and that was the ARM version and it worked fine. A little confusing since the user manual has the XDA2 having an Intel XScale 400MHz CPU. Is the manual wrong or are the Intel and ARM CPUs compatable with each other?
I'll try the iPaq version of Doom as see if that works.
Cheers,
Phil.

well once there were a company who made small riss cpus called arm
then intel went and bougth them and after awhile they changed the name of the cpu line from intel strong arm (Mhz) to XScale
lucky for us they remained code compatible
sure it's pretty confusing
and i'm sure there are some programs which take advantage of newer instructions of the XScale which will not run on arm but all arm programs should run on the XScale
of cause not all pocketpc 2002 works on wm2003 but games are mostly made from pure cpu instructions and does not use the winCE API so they are ok most of the time (excluded quake2 pocketpc which only works on 2003)
well why not get quake1 and 2 they are more impressive then doom?
i have quake1 installed and it's running just fine havent gotten around to messing with quake2 yet because it takes up about 32MB :/
also had wolfenstein running ok
but imho then it's near to imposible to control when one is used to
the mouse and keyboard combo
maybe if the ati media chip in xda2 become popular games will be made for it and will not run on xda1 and we'll be in a place like pc's and videocards

processor type problem

A problem I'm encountering in downloading BtnPlus (to program the buttons w/ multiple functions) as well as many other programs for this Qtek is that the installers for ARMS/MIPS/SH3/CAB don't seem to work. My device says it has an Intel processor. How do I deal w/ this?

arm and xscale are intel
and are called arm most of the time
because xscale is what intel started to call the
arm cpu line after a while when they bougth them
if it dont work then maybe it's because of 2002 vs. 2003 incompatility

MDA Overclocking - OmapClock vs. XCPUScalar?

Has anyone seen or noted any differences between Omapclock and XCPUSCalar for overclocking the MDA? Obviously XPCU is not free, but I'm curious if anyone has gotten better/different results between them. The newest version, 2.93, claims MDA support.

I just checked the website and it only works with the MDA Compact which is different than the MDA Vario.. so XCPUSCalar does not work with HTC Wizard devices..

MDA Vario is not using an XSCALE processor is it?

XCUScalar
We have no choice but to use Omapclock. Wizard uses TI OMAP processor !! not Intel Xscale.

I'm not arguing, but I'm confused why ARM apps run on the MDA them. Is it an emulation mode, whereas an overclocker has to be direct for the specific CPU?

fbueller said:
I'm not arguing, but I'm confused why ARM apps run on the MDA them. Is it an emulation mode, whereas an overclocker has to be direct for the specific CPU?
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The Texas Instruments OMAP & the Intel Xscale are both ARM based processors.

you are right but changing clock of processor requires cpu specific code. omap does not equal xscale! it is a complete different hardware structure (which is of course able to execute arm-code).
hope this explains why xcpuscalar does not work on omap cpu and why omapclock does not work on xscale cpu.
regards
peter

peter_altherr said:
you are right but changing clock of processor requires cpu specific code. omap does not equal xscale! it is a complete different hardware structure (which is of course able to execute arm-code).
hope this explains why xcpuscalar does not work on omap cpu and why omapclock does not work on xscale cpu.
regards
peter
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Cheers. I do realise that though. I was replying to the previous post asking why ARM apps in general can run on the MDA, by saying that the OMAP & Xscale are both ARM, therefore ARM apps can run on the MDA.

sorry for asking a dumb question but whats the advatange's of over clocking....my Vario runs at 195 tops and I've never seen it run slow....even after playing games and 6hours of mp3 music playing...
if you overclock the speed doesnt that mean the phone gets very hot and may cause internal damange to delicate chips etc?
:?:

If you don't have a problem with the device running slow, then I don't think you need to worry about overclocking.
I use my Wizard for all kinds of media and I find that overclocking it helps performance in that respect.

your lucky, most of us have to overclock to make the thing useable
must be the tmobile crap cos mine takes about 2 minutes to boot up as well :x

well my boot time takes ages cos of spb weather+today plug ins and windows media plug ins....but i can use my device and the only thing that slows it done with me noticing is active sync...

I brought this up.... because the latest XCPUScalar 2007 supports OMAP.
Wondering of anyone has tried it. If i'm not mistaken, i think it has a feature wherein it will step-up and step-down the proc based on load.
http://www.immiersoft.com/index.html

I am using XCPUScalar 3.0 and it is quite good. It is more user friendly than Omapscaler.
It can put cpu meters both on tray or taskbar, so you can see the current speed and tap to make changes.

Wlan for Pharos (Some common features of all OMAP 850 phones)

I thought it was so strange that when I scanned for bluetooth devices I picked up my (pc) internet modem (which is wireless enabled) so I thought bluetooth and wifi must share a lot of the same characteristics.
I was browsing for the latest Android developments and stumbled on the following
Please take a look at this page http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12000&contentId=4679
And this one http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12019&contentId=4635&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+bluetooth
This seems to mean that FM Radio and WiFi is a standard feature of OMAP 850 chips and (for the touch owners look at this page http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12028&contentId=4636&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+agps)
Seems If you have Bluetooth you also have wifi and possibly fm radio built in only lacking the drivers (no special wifi antenna is used in the omap 850 solution accoriding to TI)
It would seem that all we need is the right drivers and regsettings (so no new rom or radio rom should be needed)
Who can make it a working cab?

Woooooooooo!
Good news.

great job
if some solution, make me to buy one.
by the soft solution, strange story !no idea for none cost effective option. why do HTC designers make a 2008 PDA with no WiFi Option!

wow
wow...it might be dream come ture if it happens....please some body develop a driver for pharos Fm radio n wifi.....please buit up some regsettings......

This is a good information. Hope that we could make it work on our Pharos.

Good News... I hope who will make it soon because I don't understand about ARM work.

That is an awesome find man. I hope this info is used to get a wifi working ROM.
I thought it was some kind of cost saving to not include wifi, i.e. some missing hardware. If it's just a driver, that is the so friggen stupid! Why have such a great phone and then neuter it by taking away wifi? And the price is still just as high as the Artemis when it came out. The lack of wifi is the only thing that would keep me from buying one. Otherwise, it would be a great upgrade phone for me since I don't need nor have 3G with my service and and it has the cool flush screen that I wish my Artemis had.

someone knows if the touch dual then also could have the wifi option turned on by drivers? the touch normal has wifi, so i guess it should be possible.
anyone tried the drivers from the htc wizard? it also has a ti omap 850, so driver from such a rom could be coocked into the rom of other devices.

@VOODOOS!L
The touch dual uses the Qualcomm 7200 chipset. That chipset uses the arm926tesj as a co processor but i dont think its the full OMAP 850 chiset.
but there is a project for enabling niki wifi (started out as a project ot enabkle both wifi and gps)
@shawndh
Phone manufacterors do it all the time. Look at the Kaiser story, yes they have some great graphical chip (would be too expensive to make a different chiset with another graphical chip) so they just didnt include the drivers for it.
With some other phones like the touch HTC disabled the wifi in the radio rom... maybe some techies here could try to put an artemis radio rom in the pharos... but for none techies this would probably be an instant brick (thats why i didnt try it) tom_codon maybe you could say something about this....input would be apreciated.

Come to think of it, I remember that they had a crippled GPS radio or something in the TyTn I. The only reason I could think of for disabling wifi is so people who need wifi would buy the the Artemis. To be honest, if I had a choice btwn the two, I would get the Pharos over the Artemis if they both had wifi. Even so, it should still have wifi.

This ia a good news.
I'm waiting.

you know what... im giving up.
ive tried pm ing some guys working on the wifi on nike project, asking tomcodon. no response as yet and prolly not going to get one.
And tried to get qtopia and winlizard(gizard) working.
but in the linux world up is down, left is right, and smart is stupid. those people are (in dutch: contactgestoord) communicationally challenged. you cant find anything on their sites. there is no(or very little) documentation on how stuff works ...noone explains anything... so in order to learn linux you have to know it.
thats why m$ can afford to be so sucky: their competition sucks so much more
i said to the guys at irc #linzwizard hey thnx for the build, i can boot it too (gizard aka linwizard 0.3.0) but the touchscreen driver crashes.
he then said make a support request at sourceforge which i did (btw it isnt obvious how to .. it should be very simple. but hey... thats the linux way, isnt it) response was.. and this is a shocker.. your touchscreen driver doesnt work(.... grrreeeaat) you should disable it...(no description on how)

up for the rom with wifi for the pharos!
Thanks

Not to rain on anyone parade but from the first page from TI, it looks like to get wifi support you have to have a special chip in the phone(upper left corner) thats diferent that the chip to get wifi, so unless someone knows for sure that the WiLink chips are present, I think we are without wifi

Wait and see...
The only problem is... How long does it take to finalize such a ROM?
If it takes 1 yr, for example, I think I will have already changed to at least TouchHD..
Anyway, good news!

Hello! I have a HTC Pharos for one month. Yesterday, i accidentally have wetted phone by tea, and then i disassembled it for cleaning. Cleaning was finish sucсessfully, now phone is working
During disassembly of the device I have made some pictures. I think Wlan module is in the device. Look at the photo! Motherboard have many connectors for external antennas, and Wlan connector is on the board!
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos.jpg

thank you for the picture, its in a good resolution! but what would have made it more clear is if you would have looked for a specific Texas instruments chip with letter combinaton BRF or BL (there are 4 chips mentioned with a dual solution BL6450 BRF 6350 BRF6300 and BRF6150 last one is not good because its a bluetooth only chip) we should also be looking for TI chips with a WL designation and number 1271 1273 1251 1253
at least (BRF6300) - Bluetooth specification v2.0 + EDR single chip should be in the Pharos since we have that bluetooth spec.
in the picture i can make out the TWL3027 chip with extra designation BZQW (at least i think its that chip ... according to the ti site that would be the baseband chip but it doesnt describe on the site what the extra letters mean)http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12311&contentId=4706
[URL="http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12025&contentId=4645&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+mwlan"]http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12019&contentId=4635&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+bluetooth[/URL]
hope this is readable since i have a hangover

Kostyan could you post the other pics you made of the interior of the Pharos

avathar behemoth said:
thank you for the picture, its in a good resolution! but what would have made it more clear is if you would have looked for a specific Texas instruments chip with letter combinaton BRF or BL (there are 4 chips mentioned with a dual solution BL6450 BRF 6350 BRF6300 and BRF6150 last one is not good because its a bluetooth only chip) we should also be looking for TI chips with a WL designation and number 1271 1273 1251 1253
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Maybe this iron box is Wlan module?
http://flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos2.jpg
I may open this box, if it is requires for this research
And on this picture, front side of device it is found Wlan antenna? (if overwind board, supposed Wlan module with connector correspond (matched) to on position with Wlan antenna, and it connected with module)
http://flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos3.jpg

avathar behemoth said:
Kostyan could you post the other pics you made of the interior of the Pharos
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Of course, there is all photos:
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos2.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos3.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos4.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos5.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos6.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos7.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos8.jpg

Who has this ability to active OMAP 850's WLAN and Radio

Hi... who is gonna help us, who use P3470?
Please check follwoing....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400361
If someone has done it, please tell us.
You also make a donate link to receive some donation.

since many other devices are using the same chipset (for example htc wizard) and wifi is working in these devices, i suppose it should be possible to port the drivers of one such device and integrate them in a rom for the htc pharos.
I don't know if any device with the ti omap 850 chipset has fm radio functionallity activated, so i thinks it will be harderd to get the right drivers for fm.