When it says any unsaved data may be lost...would that affect text messages at all?
Actually data loss would only be from open unsaved documents, WM5 uses persistant storage and wouldn't lose anything really. The problem was mainly WM2003 and earlier versions which would lose installed programs.
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Every time I go to use Speed-dial, I get the message 'Speed-dial was broken and has been repaired.' Once I hit OK, it dials the number fine. Whenever I look at my speed-dial list, it appears fine. Anyone else have this happen? Any solution you found. It's not that big of a deal but the purpose of speed-dial is speed, not navigating messageboxes.
Any help would be appreciated.
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dcbehan said:
Every time I go to use Speed-dial, I get the message 'Speed-dial was broken and has been repaired.' Once I hit OK, it dials the number fine. Whenever I look at my speed-dial list, it appears fine. Anyone else have this happen? Any solution you found. It's not that big of a deal but the purpose of speed-dial is speed, not navigating messageboxes.
Any help would be appreciated.
db
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Same error here. Anyone have a solution.
Not a solution but a question/hint towards collobrative discovery...
Are you backing up & restoring your XDA or databases etc?
Normally I do not get this message on a regular basis. I use SpriteBackup to backup the database file called speed.db. This database contains the speed dial entries. Each time I restore this database I get the error you mention.
It appears that the speed dial list is simply a list of references to Contacts database positions. Somehow the system must be tracking whether either of the two databases have been "touched" and then put it into the recovery mode mentioned. I guess the trick is to detect this change and counter it if needed.
Just pure speculation so please forgive me this is all rubbish and useless information.
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Not a solution but a question/hint towards collobrative discovery...
Are you backing up & restoring your XDA or databases etc?
Normally I do not get this message on a regular basis. I use SpriteBackup to backup the database file called speed.db. This database contains the speed dial entries. Each time I restore this database I get the error you mention.
It appears that the speed dial list is simply a list of references to Contacts database positions. Somehow the system must be tracking whether either of the two databases have been "touched" and then put it into the recovery mode mentioned. I guess the trick is to detect this change and counter it if needed.
Just pure speculation so please forgive me this is all rubbish and useless information.
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Interesting speculation K_Kirk, I backup using Sprite Clone and ActiveSync backup\restore function every few days. Maybe their is a connection.
I use Backup Manager daily for backup but have not restored recently. What I did do that seems to work is delete all the speeddials and redo them (as I only had three it was no big deal). Since I did that, I haven't had any problem.
The restore question indeed may be on the right track thought I'm not sure what you'd do about it other than start again.
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I don't use Sprite nor do I backup via AS and I get the error regularly.
The speed dial database is indeed a collection of OID links to the contacts database.
restoring your databases, by any means (except raw mode in sprite clone), causes the OID's of database records to change, breaking this link.
Sprite Backup repairs the link on restore, however, when you next synchronise with Active Sync, a full resync is performed because of the OID changes, and Active Sync does not patch the SpeedDial database appropriately.
if the OID link appears invalid on use, in 2003, it matches them up via name ot the contacts database, hense the "broken but fixed" message.
[email protected] can send you a speedmatch.exe that does this to all speed dial links, perhaps if it can be made to run automatically after any active sync activity then you'll never see that message again.
You don't NEED to backup and restore to see this message however, Activesync quite commonly deletes and re-creates altered contacts, breaking any speeddial links to them.
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I hear that the text messages don't get stored on the phone IF the phone is reset using soft reset (or when crashes and restarted using soft reset).
Is there any workaround?
Can text messages be saved to memory card whenever they are recieved (like the option on a Symbian Smartphone to save the texts to Storage Card)?
Is this a HTC TyTN Firmware issue? OR a Global Windows Mobile Problem?
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G.
it depends how you reset - if you softreset using your stylus they indeed do not get stored. If you softreset using the off/on button (basically turning the phone off and then back on) they do get stored!
Thanks for the prompt reply
Is this just the way that the Windows Mobile OS Works ??
Or is it just a HTC TyTN issue ?
it was the same with the wizard so I assume it's the way WM works!
Interesting, on a side note.... does this happen in Windows Mobile OS Smartphone aswell ??
Does this refer to read or unread messages ?
On my v1605, I removed the battery this morning to try and loosen the screen to fix the alignment issues, and when I plugged the battery back in and switched the phone on, all my read text messages where still there.
I guess, by chance, your messages were stored to the memory correctly.
If you close the messaging application when your done, like with the task manager or something, does this store the messages correctly Regardless of crashing/soft reset.
I think the problem occurs only with unread messages. Once they are read they remain in the application regardless of resets (with the exception of a hard reset ).
I think even if you open the messages application without reading the message it might be saved im not sure though.
Seems odd, I hope there is more speculation about this, so we all have a good understanding how this works.
After my Vario II gradually slowed to a halt and stopped receiving calls or sending text messages, I finally had to admit defeat and do a hard reset (not bad going though, I managed 4 months without hard resetting)
I am now going through the long process of getting everything back the way I like it (I stupidly didn't have a backup program installed!). I am sure I found a registry tweak to store, by default, all of my SMS text messages to my storage card and looking at the contents of my card, I do have a folder which seems to agree with this as it does look like it is full of my most recent SMS messages, but I can not, despite searching for a few hours, find the tweak to do this again.
Can anyone help? I have found something about temporary internet files but nothing about SMS/text messages.
Thanks in advance for any help.
I am just bumping this in the hopes that someone may be browsing who knows the answer .. I shall keep my fingers crossed. Thanks.
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One I usually do when I want to preserve my SMS messages is use SPB backup, and select just the emails/messages to be backed up, this will back em up to the memory card as an exe.
when your happy with your new "build" on your phone simply run the exe and the messages are back.
Hope that helps?
Thanks for that Craig. I will give SPB Backup a go, it really would make sense for me to install a backup program, it would have made the recent hard reset less painful as far as reinstalling stuff was concerned
I am still interested in knowing where the registry entry is for the sms storage location because I would like to be able to access the various messages I appear to have on my storage card ... I can't for the life of me remember how I managed to change the location to get them on there in the first place, it was several months ago and I have't bothered to save the post/webpage I got the info from .. silly me!
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Check out Jeyo mobile extender for outlook, everytime you sync with your ppc via activesync and outlook it will back up your sms to outlook.
Not quite the same, but efficasoft Mobile express will allow you to send messages from your PC through a connector when the PPC is connected to active sync.
You can see your messages in the softwares in box, and export them to a text file thus backing them up but you cant import them back into the phone unfortunatly
my prior post was in regard to the 'red constant light of doom', and this is a semifollowup post. i recieved some suggestions as to what to do, one of which made alot of since.
im a heavy text message user, and i know the messages tend to stack up in the memory, which was the suggestion that my internal memory is running low, and to delete my text messages from last year. well i am using the "clear" function, but it was taking forever.... so then i tried highlighting and deleting, which at least i could see it working, but with 5000+ messages in the sent folder and 5000+ in the inbox, i could see wasnt going to work fast enough.
my only other options are either to do a memory clear, but that is saying will reset my device to factory conditions (now is this before or after i upgraded with the 2.26 tmo rom???) or actually just do a hard reset (which i dont want to do, cuz if i do that i might as well mess around with installing a WM6 rom)....
so any advice or suggestions??
I would have patients and let the device erase all of the text messages. Also, there is a registry tweak in the wiki to move email and attachments to the SD card. If you apply this tweak, you can store all of your messages there.
Update: the reg tweak only stores your mail, not sms, I just tried it.
Hardreset will restore your phone to the last ROM you've flashed/upgraded to.
Anyway, if you look hard enough (google or this forum), you ought to able to find the file responsible for storing all the SMS .. and I'm sure if you were to delete/rename this file and let the OS recreate this file, you are effectively erased all the SMS without hardreset.
I call this a new recommendation because I haven't seen before. It comes from an HTC service representative, and aside from factory resetting the phone and looking at app size/cache sizes (not app data) for various apps via Settings > Applications > Manage Applications > All (menu, sort by size), I was still "normal." The largest app on my phone was the FiOS app at 14.6MB. After that, everything was smaller. I had 451MB remaining in my application storage, 5+ GB internal free, 11+ (of 16GB) free on my SD card, and ~90MB available in cache space. In essence he told me that the low space error message was generic in nature and could be indicative of an app running out of "space" instead of my phone running low on space.
The recommendation the HTC support person gave me to try today was clearing my browser cookie data, cache, and history. The reason we went to this step was because I had noticed and mentioned to him that, with only one window open, the browser was using ~50MB resident. This was an observation I made after looking at the Internet app resource usage numbers via the System Panel app. The odd thing is that this memory usage didn't show up in in the Settings menu. Clearing the caches is done from the settings menu of the Internet app (from within the browser app, tap the 'menu' button on your phone and then scroll down to "Privacy Settings"). Now my Internet app uses ~14MB with one window open. After doing this step, and without a restart, my issue with the low space error went away (hooray!). It's a basic recommendation I know but in the searching about this error I have not read it before and actually read the HTC was denying the issue existed. I should note that we talked about the mail app, however there was noting too out of whack as System Panel showed it as using 12MB and it had no cache I could clear.
Another recommendation I received was managing the number of messages in each of my threads in the default messaging app. Essentially the more messages I have the greater the possibility that I run into an issue of a generic message sending failure. I asked a second representative about the thread limiting feature (under settings of the messaging app) and the fact that I had backed up and restored my text messages before, and now they were not being properly managed (i.e. I had 152 messages in a thread when I was telling my phone to keep 130). The second representative was the one who was conducting my customer satisfaction survey at the end of the call. He put me on hold for (at most) two minutes and then came back with an Incredible and told me that the feature is designed to keep the last 100 messages on my phone should a cell provider decide to clear text messages from their server. He also advised me to keep an eye on Dialer Storage, and that if it gets above 15-20 MB I should clear the data. He warned me of the importance of this app as it stores some of my email account info (if I remember correctly) and text message cache, so clearing that app does not come lightly. As I stand right now my Dialer Storage is ~7.14 (with 6.84 in data) when viewed in Settings menu. Though my Messages app says it only has 824kb or data and 2.2MB of total space in the Settings menu, it stands at ~18.5MB in the System Panel app.
I've noticed that after getting one of my threads down to 100 messages (my new limit) it's now staying at that limit at least for the one thread I tried it on. So maybe the thread limiting feature does work. I hope this info helps someone else with this problem and does not have cache issues that show up readily when looking at apps in the Settings menu.
P.S. I also asked the first representative about Push Messages in the messaging app. I was told it has to do with supplemental data that can come along with email accounts that use the POP and IMAP mail types. He also told me that it's possible that some carrier messages can end up there as well.
See here;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853001
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