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XDA GPRS : Sharing with Laptop via IR or CABLE?

Ok. Please don't tell me to search. I have. If you have found the magic cure, then can you possible and nicely show me there this thread is?
PROBLEM:
No internet access for Laptop on 1.5 hour train trip.
However, TMOBILE XDA phone has good GPRS signal.
REQUIREMENT:
Share GPRS internet connection coming through XDA with laptop.
SOLUTION (?) :
None found. Might test this one : http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cach...aptop-howto.pdf+gprs+laptop+ir&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
Alt Link to above: http://tomt.ath.cx/attachments/gprs-turkcell-laptop-howto.pdf
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I understand boot mode (wallaby) where it can be used as traditional cellular modem. That's limited to speed problems, and I don't wish to pursue that.
I also found a link in Microsoft newsgroup (recaptured in google groups), but I need to track those individuals down:
http://groups.google.com/[email protected]&rnum=1
Thanks, hope we all can figure this out.

With wm2003 4.00.33 German there is the "Wireless Modem" application built in which works with my MDA. I don't know if that application also works with an english ROM. Maybe there is a ROM-Update out there and the wireless modem is included.
Fidl

Thanks. I just checked both PROGS and CONNECTIONS, no such thing.
New to my ENG 4.05.00 is GPRS AUTHENTICATION in the connections/networking seciton, but nothing else.

wize_1 said:
Thanks. I just checked both PROGS and CONNECTIONS, no such thing.
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I know that the wireless modem is NOT included with your 4.00.05 ROM. It was included in the 3.17.03 ENG ROM from O2.
Maybe you give a try to the wmodem.exe i extracted from my german ROM.....
Good Luck!
Fidl

Great!!! I'll try tonight installing that and will let everyone know.

One question, however. From reading other threads (I finally found some), I noticed that the laptop should be running XP.
I guess the question really is, what are the step-by-step instructions to complete the configuration and get the laptop on the internet. I would think that they were:
(1) Getting the phone to have WMODEM [complete]
(2) Powering the phone up, and running WMODEM app [complete]
(3) Powering up the laptop, and then discovering a device [unknown]
(4) Creating a new DUN (dial up networking) connection on the laptop and using the mystery modem device just discovered [unknown]
(5) Configuring SOME NUMBER to dial as the connection parameters [unknown]
(6) Connecting
I would think that the phone would accept the incoming 'request' for it to act as a wireless modem, and initiate a gprs connection, and then do some sort of NAT.
Does ANYONE have ANY more information on how this might work?
Is XP required?

GPRS Settings
You need a Serial Cable or an Irda COM Port available. XP is not required. I do Irda on W2k (it also works with XP)
Check this link for Instructions and the Irda-Driver:
http://www.myxda.com/html/HowToUse/XdaII/How to setup Wireless Modem for IrDA.htm
The important thing is to install a Standard Modem over some COM port and use Advanced Settings for your AccessPoint i.e
AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","web.one.at","",0,0
You then dial "*99#" (without the quotes)
Fidl

I gave up and bought an aircard!
:lol:

Where do we stand on the best solutions?
I have the same problem except I am also interested in getting the XDA to act as a wireless modem for circuit-switched data calls (7Kbps pipe).
I first saw the most pertinent information at http://www.xda-developers.com/modem/ but the page is labeled "superseded". As I understand, as soon as we get ROM 3.16.43 or above, all the "intrusive" trick posted on the page originally is obsolete.
My first question is about the "intrusive" trick there. It sure looks like the trick will get the XDA to act as a wireless modem for your laptop to make circuit-switched data calls (consuming minutes, 7Kbps only). Does it get the laptop to make GPRS connection (45Kbps) as well, assuming I subscribe to T-Mobile's data plan ($20/mo, unlimited data under promotion)?
My second question is, once we get a ROM version that gives a "wireless modem" program, can I make both types of data calls? Sounds like yes for the answer.
If so, great. Let's assume so. T-Mobile US is at ROM 3.14.40 ENG right now. In a matter of a month or two, they are going to post the upgrade for Windows Pocket PC 2003. A tier 2 tech guy told me that it will probably come with a ROM upgrade. I feel that the chances are high that that ROM version provides this "wireless modem" program. If so, isn't it true that the upgrade basically converts our XDA's into a Sierra Wireless AirCard 750, and then some? Or I am off track somewhere?
The tech support told me that the AirCard 750 approach calls for a SIM card for the air card. You would have to either open a new line for a new SIM card, quite costly, or eject the SIM card from your PPC and place it into the air card each time you use it, quite a hassle. Hardware capability wise, XDA is just an AirCard 750, and then some. It's rediculous that it was not made as such to begin with. Maybe it was just a matter of development phases to roll out functionalities gradually and we are getting there?

Hello! I´ve got only one problem left with the xda II
Does anybody know how it ist possible to get the shown data from the XDA2´s IE on the screen of a notebook? I have a wsp flatrate and want to read the text on a bigger screen......... ist that possible? does anybody have experience with this topic?

Re: Hello! I´ve got only one problem left with the xda II
alamor said:
Does anybody know how it ist possible to get the shown data from the XDA2´s IE on the screen of a notebook? I have a wsp flatrate and want to read the text on a bigger screen......... ist that possible? does anybody have experience with this topic?
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Well, there is this remote display application at YORCH.NET
"Remote Display Control for Pocket PC
With the Remote Display Control application, you can display actions on a Pocket PC, including user input, remotely on the display of a desktop or laptop personal computer. This is a great tool for demonstrating the power of the Pocket PC to a large audience. It also allows developers to test their applications for the Pocket PC on a larger screen.
size: 712KB"
I didn't try it yet, it sounds quite interesting for multiple purposes.

Problems Using Wi-Fi and Bluetooth

Hi, I just bought a MDA Vario and downloaded the software to sim-unlock it. I've been using it on Vodafone for a few days and have some problems:
Wi-Fi:
I can turn wireless on, but when I then go to IE to start surfing, it tries to connect using GPRS instead of Wi-Fi. How do I get it to use Wi-Fi instead?
Bluetooth:
I can Sync my device to my PC using Active Sync 4.1 over USB, but when trying to do this over bluetooth, I keep getting told that the device can't find a an existing Bluetooth partnership, even though I've set one up (several times)! What could I be doing wrong?
ROMS:
I've got the T-Mobile ROM on my phone, but I'd rather have a standard (non-network specific) ROM. Where can I download such a ROM? Would ther ebe any issues in overwriting the T-Mobile ROM with a Standard one? Which ROM is the "best"?
Regards,
Nirbho

Nirbho said:
Hi, I just bought a MDA Vario and downloaded the software to sim-unlock it. I've been using it on Vodafone for a few days and have some problems:
Wi-Fi:
I can turn wireless on, but when I then go to IE to start surfing, it tries to connect using GPRS instead of Wi-Fi. How do I get it to use Wi-Fi instead?
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If WiFi is on and connected successfully to the network, it should use WiFi. I sometimes find if I wander about, and the phone loses site of my Access Point without me noticing, the next time I request a webpage it will fire up GPRS. You say you're connected, but it sounds like the Vario doesn't think so. Are you sure you've got WEP/WPA keys correct, and that the Wireless AP isn't using MAC filtering? Have you been able to get onto the net with IE at all, or has it always tried to get out over GPRS instead?
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Bluetooth:
I can Sync my device to my PC using Active Sync 4.1 over USB, but when trying to do this over bluetooth, I keep getting told that the device can't find a an existing Bluetooth partnership, even though I've set one up (several times)! What could I be doing wrong?
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When you pair the Vario with the PC, both ends will offer a list of Bluetooth profiles they support. When I tried with my laptop and a 3com BT dongle, despite it working fine with my old iPAQ, the Wizard didn't seem to think that the laptop offered the ActiveSync service (or maybe the laptop didn't think the phone did, I can't remember for sure). You need to make sure that the Vario (if that's the "device" that's complaining) believes the PC is offering ActiveSync as a Bluetooth service, or it will assume it's only paired with other phones, GPS's, headsets etc, but nothing with which it could activesync.
Nirbho said:
ROMS:
I've got the T-Mobile ROM on my phone, but I'd rather have a standard (non-network specific) ROM. Where can I download such a ROM? Would ther ebe any issues in overwriting the T-Mobile ROM with a Standard one? Which ROM is the "best"?
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The ftp site here hosts a load of ROM's. I don't know of any that are noticeably better all around than any others. I have a Qtek phone, and although the later ROM fixes the BT voice-dial wake-up problem it also breaks, MMS and some bits of WiFi for some people. Others have installed the WWE version of a ROM and found that the keyboard doesn't match their hardware layout and some keys are wrong. They've then gone and broken button mappings trying to fix the keyboard problem. I know T-Mobile are the least subtle in their customisation, and many people seem to want to get rid of the pink look. I don't believe there is a clear winner in the ROM stakes. I've seen a few sigs that suggest people are starting to cook their own ROM with the GSM stack from one, the WiFi from another or whatever combination suits them. If you're up for doing the same, be my guest, but you may, unless you're experienced, find yourself worse off than you are now.
Have a look over in the "upgrading" forum and see what people seem to be using there. Be aware though, a lot of the "old timers" will be using I-Mate or Qtek devices which hit the streets before the O2 and T-Mobile variants, so they have had less device specific customisation done and were probabaly running a generic WWE (or localised) version anyway.
Hope that helps?
Dox.

WM6 DUN Connection PDA 2 PDA

Hello, downloaded many great ROMS from the site and have just 1 ickle issue with WM6
Have a Artemis (MDA Compact III) and a Elf (MDA Touch) both running Windows mobile 6. My artmeis is using tomtom and unable to get live updates / traffic reports as the simcard slot is buggered so no GPRS connection. So Idea was too use my Elf to share the connection via GPRS using BT but no luck. Tried the BT DUN cab which did show DUN as a service on my Artemis. Added a new network connection setting, dial up as *99# but nothing is happening when launching a webpage - shows dialing *99# but connection keeps failing.
Hope someone can help

At the risk of sounding silly, the o2 orbit has a 2 year warranty, would it be possible just to get it replaced in an o2 store? (I don't think they've been out 2 years yet?)

handset not faulty ...this is due to the device no longer providing D.U.N as a service due to it being WM6 - basically I need to share my internet connection from 1 PDA to another

doesn't DUN require an active sim card to work tho?
saying that, i just had a quick look and i can make a new connection and select bluetooth as the modem type, unfourtantly i don't have another pda to try, but if its paired with another device would you be able to use the modem on the other device? or is that what you've been trying to do?
I only suggested the warranty as you mentioned the sim card slot was buggered, didn't mean to sound sarcastic! also was about to suggest wifi as an option but then realised that mda compact doesn't have wifi ...

Have you tried this ? I use it to access the web with a WM2003SE device to a WM6 device via bluetooth. I tried all of the other suggested methods/hacks and this is the only thing that works for me.

Hrmm i've been trying to play a multiplayer game via bluetooth with wm6 and found it impossible, is it possible to create a serial connection between to wm6 phones?
not sure if its a simular problem, just reading thru that thread now thanks

Problem is simple - have 2 wm6 devices, MDA Compact III has GPS which I use for TOMTOM but use my simcard in the touch as my phone (prefer to use it for making calls etc), Dont want to keep swapping my sim just to get traffic updates ...

Tilt as a MODEM (NOT DUN!)

I have an AT&T Tilt running Laurentius26's L26KDV12 (Windows Mobile 6.1) and I would like to use the device as a USB modem - NOT for internet connectivity but to connect to remote monitoring devices around the state that have modem's installed in them (for example, from my desktop I have an external 56K modem connected to COM3 - I have several HyperTerminal profiles setup with phone numbers, baud rate, etc.. that I open and my modem "calls" these remote monitoring stations"). I would like to be able to use my laptop and the Tilt (Kaiser) as the modem so I can call into these pieces of equipment while I am traveling.
Any advice - or search tags would be appreciated. I have already searched the forums and did a general Google search but all results turn up how to use the phone as a Internet Connection device - this is NOT to connect to the internet...
Thank you!

Have a search for 'usb_modem.zip' and 'MODEMLINK'. The usb_modem.zip is a driver file for Windows and allows your PC to use your Windows Mobile device as a modem. You also need the MODEMLINK installed on your device which you activate like you do with Internet Sharing. I have MODEMLINK cooked into my ROM and unfortunately don't have a .CAB for it, however I think there is one. It only consists of three files, a shortcut and some registry settings.
I have tested it sucessfully with some dial-up ISPs and it worked fine. When I was initially testing it though I attempted to phone my home line to verify it was dialing out OK and this didn't work. Since it isn't something I use often I haven't pursued this but I think it might have something to do with the 'CSD Line Type' setting in Settings/Connections.

thanks for the information. I did find and download the wmodem software for the phone but when I activate it I get an error message about not being able to access a com port, the cell signal goes dead and I have to reset the phone.
If you have a different version that what I found (5.1.2600.2180) let me know - that may be the difference...
thanks!

mremer said:
thanks for the information. I did find and download the wmodem software for the phone but when I activate it I get an error message about not being able to access a com port, the cell signal goes dead and I have to reset the phone.
If you have a different version that what I found (5.1.2600.2180) let me know - that may be the difference...
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When I launch Modem Link I select 'USB' as the connection, Baud Rate is 'Unused' and Access point name is set to the GPRS APN I have configured (however this is unused I think?). I then hit 'Activate' and ActiveSync disconnects and the 'HTC USB Modem' is then connected to COM4. I can query the modem from the Control Panel applet on my PC like any other modem. I can also open HyperTerminal direct to COM4 and enter 'AT' commands. I just tried dialing my home phone again and this didn't work, however dialing an ISP did.
Andy

Tethering IPAQ 910 (WM 6.1)through Sony Ericsson TM506

Two phones--HP IPAQ 910 (runs WM 6.1 Professional), and a Sony Ericsson TM506 (dumbphone). I could use either, with my T-Mobile (USA) SIM card. However, although the IPAQ has 3G, that will not work on T-Mobile, which uses a different band for 3G.
The TM506 works very well as a 3G modem for my laptops, giving me a fast Internet connection on the go, when there is no available wi-fi connection. It also works well as a phone. Of course, it has much elss PDA capability than the IPAQ, much worse keyboard for text input (just a normal phone keypad), and much smaller screen.
Therefore, two phones, one SIM card, the following looks like the best solution to me--leave the SIM in the TM506, and use that as a phone. (If the battery runs out, the IPAQ could be used as a backup phone.) Also use the TM506 as a 3G modem, both for laptops, and for the IPAQ.
Use the IPAQ as a PDA, and as a small internet device, connected via wi-fi or tethered through the Tm506.
The problem is--although tethering from a laptop to the TM506 works fine, I cannot get the IPAQ to tether through it. I set up the BT pairing, I choose the DUN service, I successfully set up a connection in the Connections tab, routed through the BT modem (TM506), using the same settings as on the laptop. Everything looks like it is set up correctly.
However, when I try to connect through that connection, I always get an error message very quickly, about "cannot connect for unknown reason".
I've tried so many things, over days now, and cannot get it to work. I've scoured the Internet looking for info, and found nothing that works for me.
Does anyone here have any suggestions? Has anyone here tethered with an IPAQ 910, or at least a WM 6.1 PPC, through a different phone? (I do not mean using the IPAQ or other WM 6.1 phone as a modem for a laptop--but the opposite--connecting to the Internet on the IPAQ 910 or other WM 6.1 phone, by BT tethering through another phone.)
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance!

I tried today to tether an old PPC I have, the T-Mobile (USA) MDA (HTC Wizard, stock T-Mo AKU2 ROM, WM5) through the TM506, and it worked!
So, the problem is definitely not with the TM506, which works for tethering a laptop, and for tethering the Wizard.
The question is then--why won't the IPAQ 910 tether through it? It has all the right settings to tether (DUN) through another device, but it doesn't work. I'm wondering if I have a defective unit, or whether it is a problem with the whole model, or even of WM 6.1.
Has anyone here successfully tethered a WM 6.1 phone through another phone? Has anyone done so using an IPAQ 910?
Anyone here curious to try, and see if it works with your phone?
Could it be a problem with the Bluetooth stack? Do all WM 6.1 phones now have the MS stack, or do some have Widcomm? If there is a problem with outgoing BT DUN on the MS stack, is it possible to install the Widcomm stack? Or would that create other BT problems?
Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.

I looked at the BT specs, from systeminfo, on the 910. This doesn't mean anything to me, but I'll post it here, in case it means something to someone:
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Firmware Version A05U
Hardware Revision: BlueCore4ROM
Driver Version: BCHS_WINCE_MOBILE_4_7_3
Software Version: BCHS_WINCE_MOBILE_4_7_3
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Does that mean anything to anyone reading?
Interesting--no mention of Microsoft or Broadcomm-Widcomm in any of that. (Unless the BC at the beginning of driver and software version stands for Broadcom).

I still have not found anything in Internet searches. Although I am not very knowledgeable about the WM registry, I decided to look a little there, and see if I find anything.
I see a registry key, that to me seems like it would govern outbound BT DUN from the phone:
HKLM\EXTModems\bluetooth_dun\
(Being that this is under external modems, I assume this key has to do with the outbound DUN I was discussing-dialing with the PPC to the internet, through another phone.)
Underneath it there are three values:
string value: FriendlyName=Bluetooth
string value: port=COM5
Dword: DeviceType=7
I am wondering whether--perhaps altering the second or third value, could get this to work?
Anyone know what the third one means-DeviceType=7?
With the second value, could it perhaps not be working, in that that is the incorrect com port? How would I find out what is the correct com port for this?
IN setting up the pairing between the IPAQ 910 and the SE TM506 (initiated from the IPAQ), in the choice of services, besides the dial-up-networking service, I believe there was the serial port profile, where one could set up a particular com port. There was no mention of that being necessary for setting up DUN, so I just chose the latter. However, should I re-pair, and also choose the serial port profile, and set up a com5?
Any other ideas?
Thank you.
Edit--I forgot to mention, under ExtModems, besides the key bluetooth_dun, there is also a key called bluetooth_dcn. What in the world is bt dcn?

I came upon a post on Modaco from 2005, regarding tethering a WM phone through another phone, at:
http://www.modaco.com/content/blue-angel-blueangel-modaco-com/202751/bluetooth-dun-profile/
I think much of it is not applicable to my situation, as two very different phones, different version of WM, etc.
However, I found the following quote from it interesting:
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"BTW - You can't go into Settings...Connections to set up your connection. For some reason it doesn't work. Don't ask me why. I have to use the Bluetooth Manager to connect."
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Well, as described, it also doesn't work for me to connect, through Settings-Connections-Connections. However, on my IPAQ 910, WM6.1, there is no other way to connect.
The author of the post quoted above says he can connect through "Bluetooth Manager". Well, I have no applet, either in Programs or Settings, called "Bluetooth Manager". There are of course Bluetooth settings, under Settings, Connections-Bluetooth. One can set up the pairing there, but there is no way to initiate a connection from there. One has to go into the Connections-Settings-Settings screen to set up the actual connection, and try to connect. I still cannot get that to work. (And now I have tried adding a BT serial port with the same com number as the registry key, as described above. Still did not work.)
I'm wondering--if there is some way I could get the app "Bluetooth Manager", would it install and work on my IPAQ 910? Where could I get that applet? Or is that app for the other BT stack?

3G modem with TM506
No answers about connecting the ipaq with the tm506 but I was curious as to how you used the tm506 as a 3G modem? I can connect with my laptop using the GPRS network but not the 3G. I downloaded the PC software from ericsson website and everything loaded and functions smoothly but it will not connect to the 3G network. The software setup a modem connection that dials *99***5# and a long unknown password entry. Any idea of how to get this to work?

mjw54 said:
No answers about connecting the ipaq with the tm506 but I was curious as to how you used the tm506 as a 3G modem? I can connect with my laptop using the GPRS network but not the 3G. I downloaded the PC software from ericsson website and everything loaded and functions smoothly but it will not connect to the 3G network. The software setup a modem connection that dials *99***5# and a long unknown password entry. Any idea of how to get this to work?
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Sorry for the late reply, but I have not looked here for a while.
I found it to work also using that SE software. That sets up the connections on the computer, so they can also be used without the SE software running.
Nothing special necessary to use 3G. But of course, T-Mo 3G is not spread throughout the country. Of course if you do not get a T-Mo 3g signal where you live, you cannot tether 3G. Do you get a 3G signal with the phone by itself?