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just bought a new xda2 mini and i have many questions about its functionality. Is there any remedy with its low built-in memory. I use to have the xda2 & i traded it to the new mini but i realize that its even slower than the xda2. Can you please help me. the camera seems to have a lower res quality thatn the xda2 but it says that it has 1.3MegaPxls... and also it cant read my 512MB mmc. my gosh i think im short-changed with this gadget(nalugi yata ako). please help
Its not slower at all. Perhaps you have a broke XDAII mini.
Also 512 MMC should work fine, try formating it in another device first.
If that fails to work, and it works in the XDA II still, I'd reccomend sending it back :?
The cam is not the best at the moment, I think a new software version will help improve it.
Well I had the XDA 2 and then the XDA IIs as well as quite a few Ipaqs including th hx 3715 and a fujitsu looks and I think that this is the best hand held device by far. I also use a 1gb SD card without any problems as well as an SD wi-fi card, although I do agree with you on one point and that is the camera sucks big time................
fella's,
where did you get your xda 2 minis from as i to live in the Uk and would like to purchase one.
I'am just about to sell my xda2, so please let me know
Thanks alot
Z
The O2 XDA Mini, T-Mobile MDA Compact, i-Mate JAM and Qtek 100S are completely identical, except for their respective painted logo's (and extended roms). I had a MDA Compact 64Mb and changed to a 128Mb i-mate JAM (PPCTECHS upgrade), I removed logo's on both of them with the sugarcube trick, and can now only distinguish the one from the other by their memory sizes. Hence, waiting for O2 to come out with the Mini will only be worthwhile if you do not mind to having it locked to the O2 network. Otherwise, go with the i-Mate JAM or Qtek as they come unlocked.
I purchased my upgraded i-Mate JAM from Mad Monkey Boys Gadgets at http://www.dweiniger.com/. Perfect, reliable and swift. Also accepts Paypal
i got mine from expansys but amazon.co.uk is cheaper now youll pick one up for around £380 sim free
gaz
Gaz,
Thanks for the info m8, I have ordered one from expansys, did'nt realise Amazon were selling them never mind...
Thanks alot
Ian
dr_ray_adalem said:
just bought a new xda2 mini and i have many questions about its functionality. Is there any remedy with its low built-in memory. I use to have the xda2 & i traded it to the new mini but i realize that its even slower than the xda2. Can you please help me. the camera seems to have a lower res quality thatn the xda2 but it says that it has 1.3MegaPxls... and also it cant read my 512MB mmc. my gosh i think im short-changed with this gadget(nalugi yata ako). please help
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Doc...
I think it be best to return it. Where'd you get anyway?
Is your MMC the same card you used before or is it a brand new one? I use an SD card and got it off for an awfully cheap price. around 2900PhP. Just PM if you want to know where to buy another.
As for the camera, I really can't tell unless it's taking a shot at night but the ROM update should do the trick.
If you want it to be 128MB it has to be modded and that will immediately void your warranty.
Here in Dubai, I am waiting for someone to come over and do the 128MB modding.
@Wiz, can anyone do the 128MB modding? Can I buy it from I-Mate since they do have an office here?
dr_ray_adalem said:
just bought a new xda2 mini and i have many questions about its functionality. Is there any remedy with its low built-in memory. I use to have the xda2 & i traded it to the new mini but i realize that its even slower than the xda2.
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The mini has half the RAM of the XDA II so it takes longer to respond.
The memory can be upgraded but it may invalidate your warranty.
Bought mine from Modaco
Wiz, what is the sugarcube trick? I also want to remove the iMate logo from my iJam. Thanks!
thanks for the reply. but can you teach me how to upgrade the rom into 128mb? where can i get the program to do it. Godbless u all.
The Sugarcube trick basically is about taking a sugarcube and start rubbing the logo until it's gone ... sugar apparently is hard enough to get rid of the paint but soft enough not to damage the casing.
The 128MB Mod is exclusively done by www.ppctechs.com, although Dave Weiniger at http://www.dweiniger.com/ (MadMonkeyBoy's Gadgets) sells i-Mate Jams pre-rigged with 128MB RAM by PPCTECHS. It's from Dave Weiner that I got mine, excellent service.
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The mini has half the RAM of the XDA II so it takes longer to respond.
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Not true. Programs run just as fast in 64MB as they do in 128MB. Decreasing the amount of RAM on it's own does not degrade processing speed. The only thing it does is limit the number of applications you can have running at the same time. Use a small task switcher such as Vbar to close the apps you're not using and a 64MB Jam will be just as responsive as one with 128MB. In fact, it may even run slightly quicker, as an expanded version will have more overhead (and battery drain) from dynamically refreshing double the RAM.
Please? help to install wm 5.0. I have vIsual Studio 2005 and Windows.Mobile.5.0.Pocket.PC.SDK> but don't now what to do with it.
I don't know what device you have but, if you own the HTC Magician (or a variant of it) you cannot install WM2005 because the HTC Magician doesn't have the proper memory specs.
If you have a different device, i suggest you look in another device board.
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I don't know what device you have but, if you own the HTC Magician (or a variant of it) you cannot install WM2005 because the HTC Magician doesn't have the proper memory specs.
If you have a different device, i suggest you look in another device board.
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I have Qtek s110
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xcilion said:
I don't know what device you have but, if you own the HTC Magician (or a variant of it) you cannot install WM2005 because the HTC Magician doesn't have the proper memory specs.
If you have a different device, i suggest you look in another device board.
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I have Qtek s110
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There isn't a build of WM5 for the HTC Magician, which the QTek S110 is a variant of.
xcilion said:
I don't know what device you have but, if you own the HTC Magician (or a variant of it) you cannot install WM2005 because the HTC Magician doesn't have the proper memory specs.
If you have a different device, i suggest you look in another device board.
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The Magician does have the required memory specs as published by Microsoft. The problem is the drivers for the hardware found in the Magician such as the CPU, TFT screen, camera, etc.
And quoting Mike Calligaro from the MS Windows Mobile Team:
"A "typical" WM5 device will have 64M of RAM. 32M of RAM is very reasonable, especially if the device uses "NOR" ROM (more on that later). Because of the power drain, there are downsides to having "too much" RAM though. And, for that reason, 128M of RAM is unlikely, but may be done for certain "power user" devices.
A "typical" WM5 device will have 64M of ROM as well. Other than cost, there's no downside to having more. So, assuming you can afford it, it'll never hurt to pick the model with more ROM. "
and
"While Microsoft writes the bulk of the software on a WM device, a significant amount of it is written by the OEM or ODM who created the hardware. And the part they do is the most complicated part of the device: the drivers, parts of the kernel, and the radio stack. On major OS revisions, many of these parts need to be changed, sometimes dramatically. And, any time they need to be changed, extensive testing needs to be done.
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and
"I've had people accuse me of lying to them. "I know you can upgrade my device, because this web page has the upgrade on it." Remember, I've flat out told you that every WM2003SE device is capable of being upgraded. The upgrades don't happen because the cost of doing the upgrade divided by the number of people willing to do it is too high. When you see an unofficial WM5 upgrade on a website, what you're seeing is an image where that cost was not paid. It's a bare minimum effort, intended only for people willing to put up with a bad experience, and never supposed to be seen by actual customers. Think twice before letting it anywhere near your phone."
Thank you KTA. This is what I have been saying all along... From where I stand, I believe that a COOKED wm2005 Rom for the magician will eventually show up. How stable it will be is a different question, But By the shear number of Magicians out there, IT WILL SHOW UP ! Eventually....
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Thank you KTA. This is what I have been saying all along... From where I stand, I believe that a COOKED wm2005 Rom for the magician will eventually show up. How stable it will be is a different question, But By the shear number of Magicians out there, IT WILL SHOW UP ! Eventually....
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I have a different opinion on this one. What I'm saying is that the Magician satisifies the hardware minimum requirements, therefore IT IS POSSIBLE to run WM5 on it. But I think no one has the resources to build the extra code for FREE. The leaked ROMS for Himalaya, etc. where developed by Microsoft and/or its partners for testing purposes. The testing is now over, so if it hasn't emerged by now, I think it will never show up
At least we agree that it is possible. I also agree that every day that goes by where it is not made available, makes the chances less and less. But IMHO it will happen. We wait and see
can you mail me that rom my mail is "[email protected]"
after mail you can call me +9607721588 B'cause i do these things privately
nonlegal said:
can you mail me that rom my mail is "[email protected]"
after mail you can call me +9607721588 B'cause i do these things privately
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Which ROM are you talking about? Like written, it does not exist until now.
hi there
I know it's WM5 upgrade not available right now but I was just wondering that if it'll ever be possible that mini would be upgraded to WM5.Is it possible or mini doesn't meet the hardware requirements of WM5?your ideas?
Read the forums This was discussed all over the place!
However
You can always hope, especially as teh o2 atom specs ate similar.
I get mine hopefully next week when I am over in China.
Nope, never, jamais, nunca, nie, никогда, nooit, ποτέ, mai.
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You can always hope, especially as teh o2 atom specs ate similar.
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I hope that you are aware that Magician and o2 atom are not only different devices, BUT ALSO FROM DIFFERENT MANUFACTURERS.
I will not be so naive to hope for WM5 on Magician, instead I hope for a nice brandnew WM5 device under the christmas tree. This hope is more likely to become true
Oh, another one!
:mrgreen: :lol: BWAAA HAA HAA HAAA HAAAA HAAAA :lol: :mrgreen:
Sorry, but I find people who ask this funny!
Especially because WM5 is absolutely uninteresting. It has been very slow on almost any new devices and the "nomore backups" issue isn't important to most of us people since we know how to make good backups - don't we?
I think WM5 is interessting! Not because of the Backup-Options.
Look here:
http://mobile-review.com/pda/articles/wm2005-1-en.shtml
The Outlook Contacts for example are _much_ better in WM5.
You see the Contact's full name _and_ the numbers and calling is so much easier!
Hate to sound like a newbie (which I am, just got my Mini/Magician today and first post to the forum), but according to some websites (http://www.gsmarena.com/o2_xda_atom-1372.php), looks like the new Atom will use the same processor as the Mini? Only difference is 128MB ram and possibly wifi (although another thread is debating that issue).
Wouldn't that be reason enough to expect a way to install Atom's WM5 to the Mini?
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Hate to sound like a newbie (which I am, just got my Mini/Magician today and first post to the forum), but according to some websites (http://www.gsmarena.com/o2_xda_atom-1372.php), looks like the new Atom will use the same processor as the Mini? Only difference is 128MB ram and possibly wifi (although another thread is debating that issue).
Wouldn't that be reason enough to expect a way to install Atom's WM5 to the Mini?
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Stupy, the problem is not just the processor type. The OS has to interface with all the hardware on your device such as Camera, BT chip, WiFi, Screen, etc. All of these require "drivers" that have to be written specifically for your hardware.
Unfortunately WM5 on the Magician is almost impossible. Unofficial upgrades for other devices occured simply because M$ and/or carriers were testing the new OS on these devices and the ROM got leaked. Now that the testing is over who do you think will take his time and effort to develop this interface for free??? And that's providing he/she has the necessary resources.
At this point the only way to upgrade to WM5 is to sell your device and get a new one :-( I will probably go for the 02 XDA Atom or HTC Prophet fairly soon.
(btw, I really really hope someone proves me wrong )
look at this link
http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2005/12/pink_pda.html
the specs are almost identical to xda2mini except for the 128mb, does this mean there is still hope that wm5 would still be possible for mini?
nato said:
look at this link
http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2005/12/pink_pda.html
the specs are almost identical to xda2mini except for the 128mb, does this mean there is still hope that wm5 would still be possible for mini?
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No. How may times does it have to be said. Read the post immediately before yours. :roll:
It's not going to happen.
kta said:
Stupy, the problem is not just the processor type. The OS has to interface with all the hardware on your device such as Camera, BT chip, WiFi, Screen, etc. All of these require "drivers" that have to be written specifically for your hardware.
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Thanks kta for sorting that out. I just got the Mini, so it'll be a little while before I get the Atom - they don't sell too many of these types of phones here in Canada. No matter, I'll be happy with what I've got. Cheers!
I'm planning on getting an o2 xda mini s next week as i've gone tired of using an ordinary phone and wanted to spoil myself with a smartphone. So basically what do i do when i first use the Wizard? I've heard alot about the opearting system being too slow and to make it fast is to install it on Basic but what i wanted to know is there any advice on anything else to make my first experience with a pda phone enjoyable? I mean are there any good software out there for me to download or something? Perhaps Agile messenger or games? And i'm planning on buying a 1GB mini card, is it worth it or should i get a 2GB straightaway?
Thanks in advance to the people who are willing to give me any advice
Oh yeah, what is Qtek Rom and all that? Do i need to install it too?
Cheers
hi,
My best advice is get the Mini S and see how you feel it runs for you and whatever you need out of it before looking to flash the rom etc, I think you may find it nice and stable and if its a new device, its more than likely got one of the later ROMs installed on it.
Killer apps: Sat Nav? Are you planning on that?
There are some good downloads available (skins and freeware etc at www.4winmobile.com)
Hope that helps!
Bryson
Hi there.
This thread will help you tell you how to max you new mini s. http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46493
Plus if you can afford go for 2gb - the more the better for all those music files, movies, programs. Mine is from mobymemory 2gb = £50 now highly recommended.
Qtek is a brand of wizard, like what i own. The above thread should explain this but your new mini s should come with an up to date rom anyhow. Better to off-load some of the O2 stuff that will slow the device down.
Enjoy!
I was wondering if there was any way to upgrade the RAM in my Mogul. I have advanced soldering skills and am not new to disassembling larger complex devices such as the Mogul and would feel comfortable doing so if the benefits outweighed the risks.
The HTC Kaiser and HTC Touch Dual both have 128Mbs of RAM. Is it possible that the RAM card has the same circuit layout and is the same physical size as the 64Mb card that is installed in the Mogul? If it is then it should be possible to swap these out and I would like to try it.
Does anyone here know the exact specifications of these 2 on-board RAM cards?
Wow will be nice to know and where to get the ram chip if possible to swap new on.
i can possibly find the mogul specs for you
is this a service you want to offer others??
Dependent upon price and possibility, I would gladly pay for an upgrade to 128mb...
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Dependent upon price and possibility, I would gladly pay for an upgrade to 128mb...
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Ditto.
If it's not possible to upgrade the RAM now, make a way for it to be possible. This is the World, we as a human race can solve a problem as simple and small as this.
Pocketpctechs.com offers this service for other devices, but not the Mogul. Considering how much money they'd make if it was possible, something tells me it's not gonna happen.
That said, I would definitely pay good money to add more RAM.
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Pocketpctechs.com offers this service for other devices, but not the Mogul. Considering how much money they'd make if it was possible, something tells me it's not gonna happen.
That said, I would definitely pay good money to add more RAM.
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So, I want PocketPCTechs to outline to us in detail why it can't be done. IF we have the technicals on why it's not possible, then this question won't be coming up time and time again.
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So, I want PocketPCTechs to outline to us in detail why it can't be done. IF we have the technicals on why it's not possible, then this question won't be coming up time and time again.
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Yeah, I'd love to hear the details too. It can't be any harder than soldering in a new damn chip. I've emailed them, but am not holding my breath for a reply.
Hell, *HTC* should offer the service as pennance for releasing this POS in the first place.
there's always "a way"... the only question is who will figure it out first. Even if it perhaps would be to use the main storage as a virtual drive similar to a hard disk on a computer, that would be awesome.
I'd absolutely pay good $ to get 128mb of ram on my xv6800.
or a 2nd processor!!
If I found it was possible then there is a possibility that I might offer it as an upgrade as long as I can get my own done (and done right) before chancing anyone else's device. I really like the titan but the lack of RAM is killing me...
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I was wondering if there was any way to upgrade the RAM in my Mogul. I have advanced soldering skills and am not new to disassembling larger complex devices such as the Mogul and would feel comfortable doing so if the benefits outweighed the risks.
The HTC Kaiser and HTC Touch Dual both have 128Mbs of RAM. Is it possible that the RAM card has the same circuit layout and is the same physical size as the 64Mb card that is installed in the Mogul? If it is then it should be possible to swap these out and I would like to try it.
Does anyone here know the exact specifications of these 2 on-board RAM cards?
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If I had to guess,and its just a guess,I would guess the ram is like the ram in my samsung a920. A typical thing to see in these devices is a BGA chip. The real trick is knowing if the phone will recognize a larger one if it was soldered in.
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The real trick is knowing if the phone will recognize a larger one if it was soldered in.
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Oh crap I hadn't thought of that.
I have sent a message to PocketPCTechs about upgrading the RAM on our Moguls and whether or not it is physically possible seeing as how the Touch Dual, Vogue, and also the TyTN II both have 128Mb of RAM.
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dharvey4651 said:
I have sent a message to Pocket PCTechs about upgrading the RAM on our Moguls and whether or not it is physically possible seeing as how the Touch Dual, Vogue, and also the TyTN II both have 128Mb of RAM.
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No I'm just going to throw this out there but the last physical replacement ram upgrade i have ever seen is the wallaby, which i have.
But from my experience its always been an upgrade or a driver that cut the full potential of the ram loose. I believe with out question that the titan which i posses has the capability to be 128 hence the other phones similar to it.
How ever being that the battery status has caused me many sleepless nights on the mogul due to its make up. So my hands on theory for this particular phone is only speculation.
i have used ppc techs tsk driver on numerous phones including the sph-i700 for samsung and it was a night and day difference
I will say this that from all the the boards i have seen and all the new products there is a logical reason why they keep these phones toned down i still hit almost every one of my phones with the moloski tweak just start my mods. I would have to say that the upgeade lies with in simply because htc never maxes out any of the phones
Would/is it be possible to somehow link memory from your SD card to your RAM? Or is ROM and RAM defined under specific hardware profiles? If a hack or mod could be made to utilize 64mb of ram for program usage using your SD card...
all would be well. Just a thought. Input?
Boy did I set the ball in motion... I really hope this is possible. If its a driver issue then that would be awesome but even a Solder-in ram card would be better than nothing.
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xweaponx said:
Would/is it be possible to somehow link memory from your SD card to your RAM? Or is ROM and RAM defined under specific hardware profiles? If a hack or mod could be made to utilize 64mb of ram for program usage using your SD card...
all would be well. Just a thought. Input?
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i would def consider the possibility of having a swapfile which is what you are talking about. The problem would lie in the latency with the sd card or rom i would think a 66x card or faster would work somewhat but i am not sure if wm6 already does with rom. That could be why it slows to a hault when memory is low but the idea is not new and should be something that could be done on software level to create virtual ram like i said though physical ram would be best. For an idea on the performance of sd card google readyboost as that is what microsoft calls it for vista.
p.s. You are def on to something because if they already do utilize virtual mem then it could be optimized or moved on to a high speed sd card which i think would have better write speeds then rom.
Anymore info on this? This would be great!!
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Anymore info on this? This would be great!!
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I was told by PPCTechs that it is not possible. That is all they said.
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I was told by PPCTechs that it is not possible. That is all they said.
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Same here, but all that really means is that they're not willing to do it. I bet some enterprising soul that's willing to risk his 6800 could solder in the same RAM chip the Touch uses and it would work.
I'm willing to donate $20 or so to any serious R&D endeavor.