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Hi...
i would like to buy a HTC prophet derivate...
as far as i understood from reading the wikipage
there is no technical difference btw e.g.
dopod 818pro, qtek S200 and o2 neo...
However, I oberserved a big difference in price for the latter two in germany (around 80-100 €)... dopod is not available here...
So does anyone knows a reason for this ?
I would very much like to stick to the cheapest one (of course),
but maybe there are some minor differences...
I also read that a dopod with english rom boots faster than a Qtek version with german rom ??
However, one could change this just by loading a new ROM, right ??
thanks for clearing things up...
Marcel
Re: Anyone can explain price difference btw Qtek S200 and o2
mtrimpl said:
Hi...
i would like to buy a HTC prophet derivate...
as far as i understood from reading the wikipage
there is no technical difference btw e.g.
dopod 818pro, qtek S200 and o2 neo...
However, I oberserved a big difference in price for the latter two in germany (around 80-100 €)... dopod is not available here...
So does anyone knows a reason for this ?
I would very much like to stick to the cheapest one (of course),
but maybe there are some minor differences...
I also read that a dopod with english rom boots faster than a Qtek version with german rom ??
However, one could change this just by loading a new ROM, right ??
thanks for clearing things up...
Marcel
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They are the same apart from the badge painted on them.
Well mostly anyway. They differ only in the software each provider adds to the basic specification. For example O2 will add O2 Plus.
You can indeed flash one prophet ROM with the ROM of the other prophet - but be careful otherwise you will end up with an expensive paper weight.
The price difference relies upon the software bundled and the warranty and tech support you get.
QTek costs less because there's almost lacking tech support, but at least you get twice as much of warranty (2 years vs 1 year) than on other brands.
Hi Rayan...
in fact, the o2 Version is cheaper than the QTek one...!
But thats a different story... Just after i ordered the o2 mobile on monday "night", i noticed that the price was higher on tuesday morning (similar to the Qtek) - maybe i asked too much questions
However, i ordered for the cheaper price; lets see if i will get it...
cu.... Marcel
P.S. in generell i have the feeling that technical support is always a bit disappointing... usually you find more help in these kinds of forums
Hint: O2-prices can vary a *lot* between online shop, O2-stores, independent phone stores and the MediaMarkt stores.
Be sure to check that!
cu
Hi ...
yep, true... But i just got my o2 neo last Friday from an internet store and... the display is heavily damaged... one can use it but it has a huge (20x10 pixs) spot of dead pixls...
So.. having bought it in a slightly more expensive o2 store would be nice now as well... lets see...
cheers.. Marcel
Hi
I'm a newbie, have checked but can't see anyone has asked this specific question before:
I'd like an xda trion but I've been told by O2 it won't be coming to the uk.
So my question is, if I got hold of an unlocked HTC Hermes or one of it's equivalents and put in my o2 3g sim - could I use all of it's features?
i.e. would this be like using a Trion but without all the O2 software etc..
Also is there a recommended model to buy? - i.e. HTC or imate etc
Thanks
Do you really need to stay with O2 ? Because the T-Mobile and other operator deals can give you a 12/18 month contract + Hermes for the same price as a device without contract.
kennyboy said:
Hi
I'm a newbie, have checked but can't see anyone has asked this specific question before:
I'd like an xda trion but I've been told by O2 it won't be coming to the uk.
So my question is, if I got hold of an unlocked HTC Hermes or one of it's equivalents and put in my o2 3g sim - could I use all of it's features?
i.e. would this be like using a Trion but without all the O2 software etc..
Also is there a recommended model to buy? - i.e. HTC or imate etc
Thanks
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I bought an unlocked TyTN from mobilefun.co.uk aswell as a 1GB microSD (the UltraII one). Works a charm, no rpobelsm(LOL leaving that for irony) whatsoever (apart from ones ive made hehe). Its the HTC branded TyTN but ive flashed it with the imate JASJAM ROM and used the HTC ext rom to get the standard green content etc.... (having tried the updated unnofficial HTC rom, aswell as the dopod rom). 3G works a treat and im still on my O2 online contract (sim only.....1 month rolling contract...£25 line rental...1000 txts and 1000 off-peak minutes)
O2 is pretty good for me and im ok with not having the full speed internet and settling for (around) 1mbps on 3G.
kevino - I wish I could, my current contract doesn't finish until April though.... there's no way out is there?
mrvanx - thanks for the info that's great. Think I'll look for second hand though, it's expensive isn't it.
Also I'll have to look in to all this rom update stuff to get it all sorted.
Thanks guys - very helpful.
Kenny
Kenny,
April is a long way off. I just moved to T-Mobile because of W'n'W. Depending on your usage it may be worth your while to just get a new contract anyway. You can, I believe, buy out your contract if you want to keep your number. Anyway I'm sure you'll know what's best for yourself.
Hey everyone,
I've decided to start a post on this cuz i haven't been about to find much on this recently released phone from telus (a canadian carrier). I currently have an HTC TyTN. However, the touchscreen is completely dead. Since this phone isn't sold by any canadian carriers, it's virtually impossible to get it repaired let alone replaced.
I've recently come across the Telus HTC P4000 which was officially launced by telus in april. I noticed the specs are very similar to that of the TyTN except for the following:
-A CDMA phone without a sim card slot.
-256 mb rom vs 128 mb rom
-64 mb sdram vs 64 mb ram? (**i dunno if the hermes ram is SD)
-a QUALCOMM MSM7500, 384 MHz CPU vs a Samsung 400 MHz CPU.
I'm thinking of selling my X01HT and signing up with telus and grabbing that phone. I could really use some feedback on this idea from my fellow Hermes owners. And could use some help measuring the pros and cons.
So far the major CON of going to this phone would be that it's slightly slower and looks to have ZERO upgradability in terms of OS, RADIO, or any type of rom flashing. Meaning no sweet WM6 upgrades from custel or jasjamming or any of the other cool chefs...
Here are some links:
http://www.telusmobility.com/content/clientcare/pcs_east/guides/htc_p4000/htc_p4000.pdf
-user manual (specs can be found here as well)
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/04/17/the-htc-p4000-for-telus-in-the-flesh/
-engadgetmobile article on this phone
Any feedback or thoughts would be great. Thanks guys...
I din't know how much money you want to spend, but expansys do a good range of phones - including the dopod 838 pro (http://www.expansys.ca/)
I think most of these are phone only, without contract etc but I'm sure you can shop around for something with a contract.
Personally for my style of useage I'd spend out on one of the Hermes varieties.
You could also try ebay - maybe pick up a bargain 8525 or an old hermes to repair yours with.
Good luck
I just bought 2 HTC P4000 for some of our work phones. One has been activated so far, and it is working great. It is allot slimmer than the PPC-6700, which I had last year. I am a newbie when it comes to upgrading these things or doing hacks etc, but I am quite happy with the phone so far. If you have any specific questions please feel free to ask me and I will try to answer them for you.
thanks guys,
I passed by a telus store today to check it out. The lady was nice enough to take a brand new phone out of its box and run it for me. I got to play around with it for a while and here are my impressions which are mostly positive:
-the slid out keyboard seems to have some kind of power assist feature (not exactly but you know what i mean, think hiptop) which makes it pretty cool and easier to slid out as oppose to having to manually push up the screen till you hear it lock into place (X01HT)
-The HTC P4000 is virtually the same size except just as twelveca stated, it is slightly thinner.
-same white default htc bootscreen + a telus logo screen and wm5 setup. I doubt the possibility of any kind of upgrade unless there are some crazy chefs out there that get their hands on this phone.
-has FN and CAPS lights just like a computer keyboard!
-black keyboard, dark gray screen housing, and a bumpy pattern on the back for added grip.
-I checked out the device info screen and to my surprise, it said it has a !400! MHz CPU as oppose to the 384 MHz stated in the specs. 64 MB RAM, 256 MB Onboard Flash memory confirmed.
-From the few minutes playing with it, it seems to perform at the same level (if not better) as the HERMES.
-Doesn't show any signs of screen alignment problems.
-EVDO High speed wireless capable.
There ya have it, looks like i'm leaning towards buying it. Just have to get over the idea that i won't be able to upgrade roms (for now at least) or use sim cards...But other than that, it seems like a great phone.
Oh i just found a link to a "Complete" review of the P4000 on HF
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1153541
It includes points i forgot to mention as well as ones i didn't even know of...
Here are some of them (note these are compared to the ut starcom 6700):
"
-dual core processor??
- REV A compatible (with software upgrade which Telus has officially announce they will do)
-more buttons on face and sides
-better one-handedoperation
-bigger battery
-better battery life
-better brighter screen
-better 2mp camera with improved software and settings
-AKU 3.3 which brings with it A2DP among other things
"
P4000
Just recently picked one of these up and have had a couple of days to play with it. I upgraded from an Imate PPC (original 2003 edition) and could not be happier.
This is a rock solid PPC, only wish my GPS hardware was compatable, sigh.
I was a little unsure of Telus but after my fiascos with Rogers, i dont expect them to give me half the grief.
cool, i'll be picking one up probably some time next week...just gotta figure out how i'm gunna cancel my plan with fido and transfer the number over...
...maybe we can start a new forum for this phone when more people have it...
Who that knows as to unlock Telus or P4000 ?
HTC TYTN
ji1386, how much do you want for your broken TYTN?
TYTN
ji1386, if you want to sell your broken TYTN, I could use it for parts if unable to fix it. Send me a PM with your offer. Thanks
I have this phone basically since it came out from Telus, and I must say I am quite enjoyikng it. Best Pocket PC phone out, IMO.
This phone is upgradeable to Windows Mobile 6.....however, there is no confirmed release date on when this will be. Also, checking the HTC site will most likely get you nowhere as Telus will need to configure this upgrade to have Telus aspects on there, for instance, The Telsus bootscreen, the today themes, etc.
GPS in HTC P4000
The GPS in this phone someone post what u gotta do to get GPS working on this phone in Stand Alone GPS Mode with No A-GPS.
Hi guys,
My Kaiser's just arrived (so Hermes is destined for eBay shortly)
I've written a blog post, a quick comparison (with photographs) between the Hermes and Kaiser here: http://blog.evolvedsoftwarestudios....iimda-vario-ii-with-the-hermes-tytnmda-vario/. I'm fairly new to blogging, so any feedback would be very warmly appreciated
I'm mentioning it here since I've been reading all the other review sites (to learn everything I can about Hermes/Kaiser) and they've missed a few things - like how the Kaiser is noticably heavier than the Hermes and how the keyboard springs back and forth. Still, more on the blog.
Many thanks,
Mike
A quick note, the Hermes is the T-Mobile Vario II, not the Vario. The Vario (I) was the HTC Wizard (At least in the UK).
I'm not sure what the Kaiser is being called on T-mobile UK, but am waiting to see as my contract's up for renewal in Nov.
Hermes names:
HTC Tytn, O2 XDA Trion, T-Mobile MDA Vario II, I-Mate JasJam, Vodaphone VPA Compact III, Dopod 838 Pro, Dopod CHT 9000, Softbank XO1HT, Orange spv m3100, Cingular 8525
BTW, it's HSDPA, High-Speed Downlink Packet Access
edited...now how did I miss that? hee hee...
drummer10630 said:
BTW, it's HSDPA, not HSDPA, High-Speed Downlink Packet Access
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For being a stickler you should edit your own post. I dont see a differnece between HSDPA and HSDPA
Thanks guys for the corrections. I've credited you with putting me right )
Sorry for asking ... how is the D-PAD, a little better than previous. I've an unbranded htc tytn and the D-PAD is not the best ... (and the jog wheel?)
D-PAD
On the TTYN II, the D-PAD:
* has slightly less resistance to touch on edges and center enter button
* is slightly larger: 2mm taller, 2mm wider
* the center button is not linked to the directional pad
* it looks better!
But as with the rest of the form factor, the TTYN II is a slight improvement over the outgoing TTYN. Maybe hard to objectively explain, but it's better.
Does this help?
Jog wheel
Oh yeah, almost forgot - the jog wheel is basically the same. It has a bit more resistance to it and you can definately feel it notching as you move it up or down.
I do prefer the TyTN jogwheel as the "grips" on it are recessed, so provide a bit more support when reading my emails - the TyTN II occasionally "slips" a notch when I press the jogwheel in to open the context menu on an email.
It's a minor thing.
Faster HSDPA and HSUPA support
I believe I read sometime back that the Kaiser supports a faster release of HSDPA than the Hermes (I think Hermes is up to 1.8mbps and the Kaiser is 3.6 or even 7.2, depending on the network, of course)
I even read that it will support HSUPA for fast upload. This was first rumored, then denied, but now Orange is claiming that it will get faster uploads when they upgrade their network.
These are pretty significant differences (for some people, at least) especially when using as a phone modem for a laptop.
Good review, thanks for the info. I'm particularly pleased by the upgraded CPU and RAM in the Kaiser. Me wants one now
I concur, this is a very nice little comparison. Thanks for taking the time to share.
Thanks! I'll do another review for TyTN III
I'm actually looking forward to the HTC Shift when that's available.
actually i bought the TyTN II and am dissapointed!
Mod Edit: You have posted your questions in the Kaiser forum which is the appropriate place not here (Cross posting is not allowed).
In addition - some of your issues are not "normal" eg re SD card and your other issues are covered in more than a few existing threads.
Searching will find these.
G'Day fellas,
I'm about to buy a Dopod D810 over ebay(never owned a PDA phone in my life, total noob). The unit that I'm about to purchase is locked to Vodafone.
First question, is the HTC p3600i much better/faster than the D810 in terms of performance and multitasking? I know they both use the same processors with different clocks and that the p3600i has double the ROM...any other differences?
Now, I know there is an unlocker for the D810 on here but just to confirm, it can be unlocked from the vodafone network, right?
Also, once I unlock it using pof's unlock tool, I heard I have to upgrade the radio ROM in order for the GPS to work? Any guide to how to upgrade the radio ROM?
I intend on upgrading the dopod to akeo's WM6.1 ROM....is this rom any good? Any precautions I should take?
I think that's it for now...
Cheers fellas,
NM
ps. Am I buying a good phone or should I fork out more money for the TyTn II?? I'm really fussy with lag and generally slow menus, I don't require that much multitasking...
bornwild said:
G'Day fellas,
I'm about to buy a Dopod D810 over ebay(never owned a PDA phone in my life, total noob). The unit that I'm about to purchase is locked to Vodafone.
First question, is the HTC p3600i much better/faster than the D810 in terms of performance and multitasking? I know they both use the same processors with different clocks and that the p3600i has double the ROM...any other differences?
Now, I know there is an unlocker for the D810 on here but just to confirm, it can be unlocked from the vodafone network, right?
Also, once I unlock it using pof's unlock tool, I heard I have to upgrade the radio ROM in order for the GPS to work? Any guide to how to upgrade the radio ROM?
I intend on upgrading the dopod to akeo's WM6.1 ROM....is this rom any good? Any precautions I should take?
I think that's it for now...
Cheers fellas,
NM
ps. Am I buying a good phone or should I fork out more money for the TyTn II?? I'm really fussy with lag and generally slow menus, I don't require that much multitasking...
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just buy the tytn II.....
Already did it.
Bought a Tilt 8925 for US$380 today, brand new.