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Hi all,
i tried to install the Opera rip from the Touch HD which was posted here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2842296&postcount=1523
first thing to say is it is amazing fast compared to our build in the X1 and it is wqorking really good, but there is one really big problem which makes it useless
If you wanna key in an url with the Hardware keyboard, then after starting after some seconds the fild disapears , with the software keyboard this problem doesnt happen.
I really hope that sony comes soon with an update, or an developer can fix it on this build haha
regards cHarOn
cHarOn99 said:
Hi all,
i tried to install the Opera rip from the Touch HD which was posted here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2842296&postcount=1523
first thing to say is it is amazing fast compared to our build in the X1 and it is wqorking really good, but there is one really big problem which makes it useless
If you wanna key in an url with the Hardware keyboard, then after starting after some seconds the fild disapears , with the software keyboard this problem doesnt happen.
I really hope that sony comes soon with an update, or an developer can fix it on this build haha
regards cHarOn
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Mine does the same and thats the version X1 shipped with..
Anyone tried the file from Opera that was released on the 20th Oct?
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/download/
Micke401 said:
Mine does the same and thats the version X1 shipped with..
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yes if you longer dont write something but with the HTC build you can write and it will go away anyway so this is an different problem
the X1 version of opera is said to be optimized for the X1 and running really fast (@pocketnow.com Review Youtube Video)
so why install the Touch HD version ?
the TouchHD build is much faster then the built in version, also it has an better xperience in my eyes when it comes to zooming and other things
its still version 9.5, just another build...cant make much difference
did you try it with the same websites, same connection speed etc ?
believe me it is a lot faster on same webpages with same connection (WLAN)
the page rendering is faster, how it displays the page is better, specially on zooming, loadtime is better.
Believe it, i tested it, but have to hardreset to get it away again and to get the originla opera for x1 again.
regards cHarOn
alright, but with that bug you mentioned its not really worth changing
yes agree , its not worth, thats why i posted it , to warn the users, or maybe to see some developers to have an solution for that , maybe i should try an Touch Pro build also, but that is only for VGA and i dont know what happens then
I'm using 2723 and it's much faster than the default one. It loads pages faster, plus it scrolls much much faster, the flick scroll can keep up with your flicks.
The onlt thing is it can't use the default startpage and uses it's own.
I've been trying loads of builds, but I think this is the latest from the Opera site.
works there also the hardware keyboard as it should, i mean if you key in an long webadress will it stay viewable?
ok tested the last beta and you are right, it runs also really fast, same as the Touch HD Build and the good thing with the beta is , it doesnt overwrite the SE Build, it makes an extra installation called Opera Beta, so you can easy remove it again if you dont like it, or let it installed and you can use both
where to you get that build ? Just the latest version from the opera website ?
What about Skyfire ? I heard that is the best browser for WinMo
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What about Skyfire ? I heard that is the best browser for WinMo
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SkyFire won't even run in VGA let alone WVGA
What build is the buildin one (since I don't have my X1 "yet")? I remember there are 2 major version for Opera. The build 2xxx version has this keyboard timeout issue while the 19xx version will not on my Att Tilt
2141 is the build which is installed
cHarOn99 said:
yes if you longer dont write something but with the HTC build you can write and it will go away anyway so this is an different problem
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But it is actually the same problem,it dissapears while i write.
trying out the new beta (9.51) and there the google-field works ok,it,s also faster and more polished in zoom and so on higly recommended.
hmm thats strange, that doesnt happen on mine, it only happens if i stop writing and wait some seconds, but on the HTC build it happens after writing 3 letters and i am fast
so i got 951b2.cab from the website, is that the build you refer to ?
will get my X1 today hopefully
Here it is!
The most wanted mobile web browser beta is out.
Its so fresh that i've just tested it a minute ago, qnd now it"s urs
It's still buggy, but less..
FENNEC OFFICIAL BETA
here
Thanks!! Any other hosts, lol
Better yet, get it from Mozilla directly:
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mobile/
I'm guessing it's VGA only?
In case both the first mirror AND the mozilla ftp go down, here it is on 6 other hosts:
http://www.rapidspread.com/file.jsp?id=bw0arxmwqc
i installed on my omnia and no workie. I click on the Icon and nothing Is it resolution specific?
Wow... Great find guys... I didn't think we'd have a beta release for about a week yet!!
I am hazarding a guess at it being VGA only as the beta was marketed for the Touch Pro...
Drool! I am going right now!
After having a quick fiddle with it...
I can confirm there is no SIP!!!
That must be the reason for using the Touch Pro to release the BETA on.
Anything without a hardware keyboard has no way to type inside Fennec that I can see at first glance. If someone finds a way to - Please correct me.
It runs rather sluggishly on my Diamond also. Seems a bit unoptimized?? Either that or it wants the extra RAM the TP has...?
It is VGA only.
I have one word to describe this build: Ouch.
They have a LONG way to go before they have a functional browser. This is awfully slow and I'm on a fairly well optimized Touch Pro. I don't even want to think about the start up times on a stock Fuze.
it leaked this morning and was reported as being awful...and it is... it's unusable like the alpha was
http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=1903
Yeah this definitely needs work.
Good for Diamond?
I just drooled a little on the keyboard.
Uuu imagine sync with desktop Firefox.
Took about 30secs to startup on my Touch Pro, and still none webpage worked.. always getting Page Load Error screen.. using 3G network, never tried using Wifi..
Hasn't this beta been out a while?
***EDIT***
Ok. Found the new build and all I got to say it ugh. 25 MB? Yikes! More work is definitely needed.
Absolutely terrible. Took forever to load and no page would load, not even Gmail, lol. This is pre-alpha really.
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Good for Diamond?
I just drooled a little on the keyboard.
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Nah Sergio... Sucks for Diamond - We have no hardware keyboard... Presumably why the beta was being aimed at the Touch Pro.. There is no SIP input in the current version...
Sergio PC said:
Uuu imagine sync with desktop Firefox.
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Imagine... But a little further away yet!
this did exactly what i expected it to do, nothing. im on a hermes tho, so no surprise there
it didn't even start up for me....
Will you please give your experience with win 6.5 build 11.
My experience:
Positives: Very cool: More storage
Negatives: Frequent crashes especially upon installation of new programs. Like I installed new version of spb keyboard, it crashed altogether and I had to hard reset.
It is more slower than 6.1.
i thought it was it was a kewl upgrade until i tried it .............
Its much slower than 6.1 not just a little but much slower, looks great but some of the options in the settings menu were missing that i was looking for but all in all i prefer the 6.1 over 6.5....which i loaded back a few mins ago(6.1)....cant wait for 7 next yr to see what tht has to offer but im assuming Viva's processor might its work cut out for it lolololol
ryanstephney said:
i thought it was it was a kewl upgrade until i tried it .............
Its much slower than 6.1 not just a little but much slower, looks great but some of the options in the settings menu were missing that i was looking for but all in all i prefer the 6.1 over 6.5....which i loaded back a few mins ago(6.1)....cant wait for 7 next yr to see what tht has to offer but im assuming Viva's processor might its work cut out for it lolololol
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Thanks for your reply!
Yes I am also of the same opinion. How can I go back to original ROM? Because we have changed the hard spl. I shall be thankful.
well, for me, it works great, except it doesnt have windows live and onenote mobile, i had to download it (except onenote cos i dont need it) on my own... speed is okay, not as fast as wm6.1, startup is slow, the new lock screen, honeycomb and titanium is cool, but the panel for email and text is EXTREMLY BUGGY (they show a X sign and nothing else), album and touchflo 2d seems to respond faster, theres a few bugs but they dont really show up much, the new touch engine (or watever the thing is called for the touch scrolling) is great, but theres touchflo scrolling which makes it really annoying (btw, is there any way to remove the scrolling? i changed the registry but its still there)... but for me, its okay for everyday use...
P.S according to the ORIGINAL POST ON PDAVIET, its based on the iolite rom(i think) and i DONT recommend you guys to upgrade to v12 but wait for v13, so in the meantime, use the v11 rom...
mirchichamu said:
Thanks for your reply!
How can I go back to original ROM? Because we have changed the hard spl. I shall be thankful.
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i too am trying to find a way... too bad theres no solution yet to change to original spl...
guys, when you say go back to the original rom, do you mean the version with 6.1? all you have to do is flash your viva again but using the
HTC OPAL ROM 6.1 V05 - Build 21014.1.6.0 version you can find in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494083
That rom is from PhamQuang too
its quite good enough,.. but sending message always notify me delivery report, and get load.... , i cant unchecked the box..
MOD! please move to Vogue Upgrading Forum!
I just installed 6.5, but I think I am going back to 6.1
CONS
MD2 is far superior in every way, especially when it comes to email, you can view headers and check multiple accounts quickly, it is much nicer too.
I hate the fact that I cant quickly access my recently used programs.
PROS
it feels a bit faster
Bottom Line
I really think that 6.5 is no big deal, just a bit of eye candy, its funny how microsoft paid big bucks for fashion designers to design some themes instead of investing a couple of thousand dollars for a decent UI expert, they never cease to amaze me with their stupidity.
it is a shame that everybody is going along with it, as if this is the next big thing, it is really a very small baby step. MD2 not to speak of MD3 are far superior in every way.
Have I missed something? What do you guys think?
Which version of 6.5 did you install? The one nfsfan cooked up has m2d in it and thats what iam using... 6.5 w/ m2d as the GUI... i have noticed everything on my phone seems much easier/faster to work. No way id go back to 6.1...
kei78 said:
Which version of 6.5 did you install? The one nfsfan cooked up has m2d in it and thats what iam using... 6.5 w/ m2d as the GUI... i have noticed everything on my phone seems much easier/faster to work. No way id go back to 6.1...
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Really? I am gonna try this. Last time I tried 6.5, I did not see M2D
just try nfsfans v8 6.5 rom, if that isnt a good enough reason for you to keep 6.5, then you need to switch to a crackberry
yup... under the today options...uncheck the default and check touchflo...
I didnt like the 6.5 gui either and went straight back to m2d in the options. Just updated to v8 for 6.5 a few moments ago and the options are there... I believe nfsfan had it in is roms for the last few versions...
kei78 said:
Which version of 6.5 did you install? The one nfsfan cooked up has m2d in it and thats what iam using... 6.5 w/ m2d as the GUI... i have noticed everything on my phone seems much easier/faster to work. No way id go back to 6.1...
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I use his rom, but MD2 is buggy in 6.5 (i tried v8 too)
I loved his ROM , it's best of both world, but i mainly use M2D , and also SPB Shell 3 , switch it back and forth.
I switched back to 6.1 simply because I hated 6.5's UI on the Today screen.
joe11211 said:
I use his rom, but MD2 is buggy in 6.5 (i tried v8 too)
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Buggy in which way? Can you eleborate?
I was using v6 r2 for almost two weeks and it was rock solid...then i switched over to v8 just the other day and again.... rock solid. If you find it "buggy" in his release you should make note of it so he can work on it and try and resolve those issues...
Personally it feels like m2d w6.1 but faster and more stable. Launching Garmin would take some time before hand, and now with 6.5, is 10x faster...
i dont particularly like the large icon start menu. is there anyway to change it to a smaller view of the icons?
I went back to 6.1.
Slingbox Mobile looks like ass using 6.5 unless I disabled both the 6.5 GUI and M2D. It's a big deal for me cause I use Sling a lot. Memory issues somewhere.
Other than that, I think 6.5 with M2D worked pretty good.
kei78 said:
Buggy in which way? Can you eleborate?
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see the screen shot please
joe11211 said:
see the screen shot please
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that never happen to me i ahve the sprint touch works prefectly
what the.. with the purple thing lol
mine looks awesomee *_*
I don't know when you encountered that screen glitch, but I experienced a similar issue with NFSFAN's 6.5 rom after I changed themes. A soft reset always cleared up the problem for me.
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I don't know when you encountered that screen glitch, but I experienced a similar issue with NFSFAN's 6.5 rom after I changed themes. A soft reset always cleared up the problem for me.
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same thing here... its a problem with some of the themes.. not 6.5
and there is a way to get smaller icons. just seach the forums. its there somwhere in a 6.5 guide
dkl73 said:
I went back to 6.1.
Slingbox Mobile looks like ass using 6.5 unless I disabled both the 6.5 GUI and M2D. It's a big deal for me cause I use Sling a lot. Memory issues somewhere.
Other than that, I think 6.5 with M2D worked pretty good.
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What versions are you using?
Slingplayer mobile currently has these version that were just released
* SlingPlayer Mobile for Windows Pocket PC 1.6.0.114 (US)
* SlingPlayer Mobile for Windows Smartphone 1.6.0.62 (US)
* SlingPlayer Mobile for Palm OS 1.00.22 (US)
* Windows Mobile Downloads (UK)
As for an application not working correctly with a pre-release version of WinMO, thats hardly the Chefs fault as the Application might not have a version to even look at yet let alone develop for
What versions of WinMO 6.5 have you tried - different Chefs utilize different kitchens and different items and tweaks as well so without trying all of them you really dont know if one wouldnt work or all wouldnt
Up to you if you want the time to spend with it I dont use it as if I want to watch television, I watch it, if Im out and cant watch some show or event, well thats what bittorrent or hulu is for LOL
Detroit Doug
joe11211 said:
see the screen shot please
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have to agree here - thats an incompatible version of some theme on that ROM
Have seen it a few times myself, not the ROM thats for sure as it didnt occur when you first flashed and used the device, just after something was installed
Detroit Doug
It's out guys!
www.opera.com
http://www.opera.com/mobile/download/
quite snappy indeed, too bad the hardware keyboard doesn't work with it.
do we need to tweak it like we tweaked 9.7?
gundamboy said:
quite snappy indeed, too bad the hardware keyboard doesn't work with it.
do we need to tweak it like we tweaked 9.7?
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Kbd works here. Maybe that softreset that fixed the game?
Wow, it is ridculously smooth and fast.
I'm not impressed with it...
Opera mini 5 like which I didn't like!!!
Flash still not working
yup.. looks like a softreset fixes everything! LOL except tilewave
It DOESN'T work on my X1!
doministry said:
It DOESN'T work on my X1!
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what doesn't work?
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The whole Opera doesn't work!
I just see a boot screen and than nothing happens!
I reseted the device, still nothing.
Installed again after uninstall and reset.
Nothing! WTF?!
So is this better than 9.5 (or 9.7)? Because it looks like Opera Mini... Can't try it now, maybe in a few hours...
I liked better the fullscreen browsing of the older versions and that you had the taskbar visible when you pressed the lower button to reveal the other controls...
still doesn't support flash
Works perfect on my X1i (incl. HW keyboard, which also works). Extremely fast browser. Does not have, or at least I did not find, the odd Opera 9.7 beta way of rendering some pages. Again 100 out of 100 score on Acid3 test (like Opera 9.7 beta).
I've tested some sites, and both the speed and the rendering quality are perfect.
The tab switching is done very nice too.
It does lack Flash support.
In contrast to Opera Mobile 9.7 beta, it does size the text width to fit to my X1's screen.
All in all, Opera Mobile 10 is a very nice browser, and maybe one of the fastest I've ever worked with (comparing to real browsers, not like Skyfire or Opera Mini).
I really want to test and see the browser but it doesn't work here!!!!
This is crazy!
SE X1. No faults, device working 100%.
Can anybody confirm that Opera 9.7 and 10 work together on the device or one of them has to be uninstalled??
Every app I installed has no problems here, are you aware of any possible conflicts on the device??
D - you sure you downloaded the windows mobile version? I think your link takes you to a different version.
I got it working no problem - it basically looks exactly like mini 5.0 so far...
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D - you sure you downloaded the windows mobile version? I think your link takes you to a different version.
I got it working no problem - it basically looks exactly like mini 5.0 so far...
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Haha! Funny!
Opera_Mobile_10_WM_Beta_1.cab
so no doubts right?!
Guys ... Great news I heard today... Tomorrow is the day when Flash 10.1 for WinMo Beta is going to be released!!! So all our troubles with opera and flash should be resolved
Thats great news VelikiMeshtar. Didnt know that, thanks for sharing.
About the opera 10 beta 1. I think its more a replacement for the opera 5 mini. Because it looks like opera mini 5 and like opera mini 5, I cant view some pages which I could see in opera 9.7 beta. And did I noticed right that there is still no synchronization for bookmarks or did I miss something? It would be pitty if I'm right.
For me, I will still use Opera 9.7 for websites with difficult scripts or something like that and I will replace Opera mini 5 with Opera 10. Nice work from Opera anyway. They are still the first choise for me.
Installed Opera Mobile 10. Works great! I find it way better than Opera Mobile 9.5 and 9.7. I'm happy.
Still nothing as good as Opera Mini 4.2