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Opera of TOUCH HD build 2649 on X1

Hi all,
i tried to install the Opera rip from the Touch HD which was posted here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2842296&postcount=1523
first thing to say is it is amazing fast compared to our build in the X1 and it is wqorking really good, but there is one really big problem which makes it useless
If you wanna key in an url with the Hardware keyboard, then after starting after some seconds the fild disapears , with the software keyboard this problem doesnt happen.
I really hope that sony comes soon with an update, or an developer can fix it on this build haha
regards cHarOn

cHarOn99 said:
Hi all,
i tried to install the Opera rip from the Touch HD which was posted here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2842296&postcount=1523
first thing to say is it is amazing fast compared to our build in the X1 and it is wqorking really good, but there is one really big problem which makes it useless
If you wanna key in an url with the Hardware keyboard, then after starting after some seconds the fild disapears , with the software keyboard this problem doesnt happen.
I really hope that sony comes soon with an update, or an developer can fix it on this build haha
regards cHarOn
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Mine does the same and thats the version X1 shipped with..

Anyone tried the file from Opera that was released on the 20th Oct?
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/download/

Micke401 said:
Mine does the same and thats the version X1 shipped with..
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yes if you longer dont write something but with the HTC build you can write and it will go away anyway so this is an different problem

the X1 version of opera is said to be optimized for the X1 and running really fast (@pocketnow.com Review Youtube Video)
so why install the Touch HD version ?

the TouchHD build is much faster then the built in version, also it has an better xperience in my eyes when it comes to zooming and other things

its still version 9.5, just another build...cant make much difference
did you try it with the same websites, same connection speed etc ?

believe me it is a lot faster on same webpages with same connection (WLAN)
the page rendering is faster, how it displays the page is better, specially on zooming, loadtime is better.
Believe it, i tested it, but have to hardreset to get it away again and to get the originla opera for x1 again.
regards cHarOn

alright, but with that bug you mentioned its not really worth changing

yes agree , its not worth, thats why i posted it , to warn the users, or maybe to see some developers to have an solution for that , maybe i should try an Touch Pro build also, but that is only for VGA and i dont know what happens then

I'm using 2723 and it's much faster than the default one. It loads pages faster, plus it scrolls much much faster, the flick scroll can keep up with your flicks.
The onlt thing is it can't use the default startpage and uses it's own.
I've been trying loads of builds, but I think this is the latest from the Opera site.

works there also the hardware keyboard as it should, i mean if you key in an long webadress will it stay viewable?

ok tested the last beta and you are right, it runs also really fast, same as the Touch HD Build and the good thing with the beta is , it doesnt overwrite the SE Build, it makes an extra installation called Opera Beta, so you can easy remove it again if you dont like it, or let it installed and you can use both

where to you get that build ? Just the latest version from the opera website ?
What about Skyfire ? I heard that is the best browser for WinMo

toxical said:
What about Skyfire ? I heard that is the best browser for WinMo
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SkyFire won't even run in VGA let alone WVGA

What build is the buildin one (since I don't have my X1 "yet")? I remember there are 2 major version for Opera. The build 2xxx version has this keyboard timeout issue while the 19xx version will not on my Att Tilt

2141 is the build which is installed

cHarOn99 said:
yes if you longer dont write something but with the HTC build you can write and it will go away anyway so this is an different problem
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But it is actually the same problem,it dissapears while i write.
trying out the new beta (9.51) and there the google-field works ok,it,s also faster and more polished in zoom and so on higly recommended.

hmm thats strange, that doesnt happen on mine, it only happens if i stop writing and wait some seconds, but on the HTC build it happens after writing 3 letters and i am fast

so i got 951b2.cab from the website, is that the build you refer to ?
will get my X1 today hopefully

Which Opera 9.5 build are using on your X1?

Hi guys,
i've been installing different builds on my X1 to see if any of them offer better rendering, zoom etc. but all of them have issues with the hardware keyboard.
Apart from the pre-installed build of Opera has anyone managed to find a newer build that works with our X1?
Many thanks!

Nope, still use the stock opera.

Me too. Anything other than the stock one gives nothing but trouble.

Same here. Stock opera ftw...

Ver 9.5 Build 2141... which is stock.
No reason to change as it suits my needs. I don't use the hardware keyboard on this anyway.

Stock one here too, I tried loads of builds but this one seems to work the best or the X1, plus it allows access to BBC iPlayer with the stock one.

the latest one from the omnia repacxked for vga 15233
typed using the hardware keyboard

fards said:
the latest one from the omnia repacxked for vga 15233
typed using the hardware keyboard
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The vga one works on the X1's wvga screen?

yep its only a skin

I have tried 15233 on my X1 and i didn't work quite so well as the stock one. The hardware keyboard was not functioning properly and because it is VGA version the zooming doesn't always focus correctly on the X1's screen

Hi all,
most people want to change opera version because they think there is no zoom option like the HD one when you can choose the degree of zoom.
But you can zoom in and out using the volume up and down button

lol thx. i didnt knew that

Tylwith said:
Hi all,
most people want to change opera version because they think there is no zoom option like the HD one when you can choose the degree of zoom.
But you can zoom in and out using the volume up and down button
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Really??
Great! Must check it.
P.S. The beta version which we have on X1 is amazing...

Opera
Hi
I'm using opera 9.5 15202 vga version on my Xperia X1i and it works beautifully
with zoom and all, I'm using 5 tabs option even. works fine for me.
Dinesh

I tried to update to 15xxx with overwriting opera.exe and operal.exe in \windows folder.
After that Opera is not starting anymore, so I went back to stock .exe files.
Did somebody make a .cab from the stock X1 opera so I can test the installs without having to do a hardreset when I want to go back to original one?
I heared that Build 15xxx have othe .ini than 2xxx, maybe that's the reason for updating-problems?!

no, the beta 2 version crashes alll the time
the stock is just fine for me!

Does the stock version support flashlite 3.1? It doesn't work for me. If anyone has it working, what opera build do you use and what flashlite cab did you install?
Was using the stock. Using 15233 right now, but I was going to go back. Its not really better and I think panning works better in the stock. Will try 15202 though.

My flash works.
Build is 2141 I think.

doministry said:
My flash works.
Build is 2141 I think.
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Can you tell me what cab you installed for flash? My flash acts like it wants to work but never fully loads. There will just be an empty box where a flash object should be. I can even tap and hold on it and get the flash context menu.

I am using the stock version of Opera but I am having problems getting it to load some of the forums I visit. I get the message "The requested page cannot be displayed". When I use wifi I get the XML Parsing Error. Is there a fix for this somehwere? I never had this issue using Opera 9.5 before the X1a.

Great browser experience - Skyfire

http://www.skyfire.com/
please comment

Tried it.. installed it... found it horrible. Went back to opera

only thing i use skyfire for is websites with flash

i tried this before, found it to be very unresponsive, many time webpages not loading, video's not playing.
when it worked it was great, but i definately prefer the smoothness of opera

averma said:
i tried this before, found it to be very unresponsive, many time webpages not loading, video's not playing.
when it worked it was great, but i definately prefer the smoothness of opera
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agreed. can't wait until opera can play flash smoothly. that would be the ultimate mobile browser

go for opera mini... the best

who will tell me how to get flash working in opera

Absolutely useless, no commment....

dipje said:
Tried it.. installed it... found it horrible. Went back to opera
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Same here..

averma said:
i tried this before, found it to be very unresponsive, many time webpages not loading, video's not playing.
when it worked it was great, but i definately prefer the smoothness of opera
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ditto, the pages I needed that had flash wouldn't load. Back to the waiting game.

......and it's text rendering is terrible

well, I think i've seen working flash for opera..?

benko286 said:
who will tell me how to get flash working in opera
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Use a recent build of Opera (I have no idea which build number, sorry. But use a custom ROM with the latest build in it), install Flashlite 3.1 cab (floating around here I believe, or work your way through the Adobe site to find it) and in theory it should work .

Skyfire sucks flash the only good thing on it. Thay should rename it slowfire lol.It may load the page fast but then needs to re-load when zooming in on page(slow). If you want to try something other than opera try Iris. Its free and not bad

Iris dont work on my Diamond
Im installed IRIS browser, but it locking up my Diamond soon after start, anyone else with this problem?

Iris made my Diamond crash badly several times, like one out of 3 loads of iris was a soft reset. There was something on the forum about Skyfire loading pages trough their servers and many people didn't like this. I don't like it because of it's way of rendering mentioned above and the crude interface.

Multitouch in Internet Explorer

There is a video on youtube showing the HTC HD2 running internet explorer with multitouch working - pinch to zoom.
Now I know IE is not the popular choice but I find the flash support in some of the newer roms to be excellent and I probably use IE more than Opera.
Does anyone know how to get multitouch working in IE?

You could use BSBtweaks which lets you add apps to pinch to zoom and rotate.

Thanks for the response, tried but no luck. Im using MIRI rom, not sure if it's compatible

steviesteve78 said:
Thanks for the response, tried but no luck. Im using MIRI rom, not sure if it's compatible
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The ROM won't change this - it's part of the OS. For some reason, you can't add pinch-to-zoom to some programs. IE is one of them.

johncmolyneux said:
For some reason, you can't add pinch-to-zoom to some programs. IE is one of them.
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Every day's a school day!

Ah, that sucks a little, IE has become quite a good browser, if I could get multitouch, like in the video, I could ditch opera :-(
Anyone know of any other solutions?

+1
Bump, was thinking the same
i wasnt liking the new implementation of opera 10 and was searching for a tweak in IE

The version that you are seeing is a special one that Adobe used to show off flash 10.1 running on the device with 'propper' pinch zoom built in. I'm sure it will eventualy leak in one of the 6.5.x builds, but until MS leak it then we are stuffed.

opera 10 problem

Downloaded opera 10 and now my camera and video won't work.
error: unable to initialize camera. Failed to set up the camera device.

ok Camera started working but the screens keep freezing. How do I remove the program?

cederrowe said:
ok Camera started working but the screens keep freezing. How do I remove the program?
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Start Menu>Settings>System>remove programs ....
btw this is a known issue, search would have found it ...
Also, just an observation, you should really learn about installing/uninstalling apps before you install one ...

got it just forgot were the app page was. Removed the opera now back on the hunt for a good browser...lol Thanks

I'd suggest Skyfire, pretty good and wickedly fast IMO.

try this one, it works for me with no probs
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This "slighty edited" one works great, THANK YOU!!
The only problem i still have is that if you are in landscape and then leave opera the other screens become landscape, and sense crashes. The only way to undo the landscape orientation is to go back into opera and go into portrait again. Hopefully HTC will come out with a new rom that has an updated browser, 9.7 is pretty pathetic

hashimi87 said:
This "slighty edited" one works great, THANK YOU!!
The only problem i still have is that if you are in landscape and then leave opera the other screens become landscape, and sense crashes. The only way to undo the landscape orientation is to go back into opera and go into portrait again. Hopefully HTC will come out with a new rom that has an updated browser, 9.7 is pretty pathetic
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Try this....

hashimi87 said:
This "slighty edited" one works great, THANK YOU!!
The only problem i still have is that if you are in landscape and then leave opera the other screens become landscape, and sense crashes. The only way to undo the landscape orientation is to go back into opera and go into portrait again. Hopefully HTC will come out with a new rom that has an updated browser, 9.7 is pretty pathetic
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Aww man, I had to reflash the rom and now opera 10 wont work right anymore. For the life of me i cant figure out what i did differently. Back to 9.7 again. Does anyone know whats causing these memory issues with opera 10?

Does Opera 9 really suck that bad? Also the version of Explorer on our phone is actually pretty good. It doesn't do pinch zoom, but it does flash... Between Opera and Explorer that came loaded on my phone, I'm more than happy...