Hi there,
Just bought this a few days ago and playing with it. Got the 16key Tmobile UK edition.
I have tried to use it as a modem for my laptop, but the speeds I am getting are 270kbps. I was expecting it to be quite a lot faster?
This is with a 3G icon at the top which I assume means that it is connected via UMTS.
Is this the speed I should be expecting? I am on the 8th floor of my building but have got 3 bars of reception (not sure if that is related or not).
What kind of speeds should I be expecting? on both UMTS or HSDPA?
I am with T-Mobile.
Thanks
you'll geh an H-icon when connected via HSDPA, which is faster than 3G.
yup... but what speeds should i be expecting?
is 270 low for 3g?
soggybiscuit said:
yup... but what speeds should i be expecting?
is 270 low for 3g?
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Hmmm, I believe that ~46Kbytes/sec is fastest speed with 3G (386kbits). With HSDPA (3,5G) you can have faster connections e.g 2Mbits, even upto 3,5Mbits if network supports its.
Edit // Ps. Mobile operator may require that HSDPA has to be ordered as "value addad service" so it may cost more than basic 3G connection (usually its not included to the basic contract)
This might help...
http://www.business.orange.co.uk/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Business&c=OUKPage&cid=1044134021646
ahh cool thanks... so 270 aint that bad i guess...
i'll test out my speed at work where im getting hsdpa showing up see how that shows
I live in Leeds (UK), and have HSDPA service mostly when I connect to the web. I downloaded a 4mb file on it last night and it took just under a minute to complete. I was pretty impressed. You don't need WiFi on a touch dual when you can download at these speeds and when you have an (almost) unlimited data plan
Can't wait when Firefly or Opera 9.5 comes out.
silmonli said:
You don't need WiFi on a touch dual when you can download at these speeds and when you have an (almost) unlimited data plan
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well ... exactly!! when you have an unlimited data plan :\
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T-mobile MDA Pro for £ 145.00 on 12 month contract!
Admittedly, the monthly plan is quite expensive, but there are seemingly many variations of contracts at so so prices....if you need a new contract anyway. Worth considering for some people.
read more here: http://www.txtin.com/1048_T-Mobile_Pay_Monthly_Mobile_Phones_Contract.html
Do T-Mobile actually offer 3G data services in the UK for non business users?
you can get it for £49.99 here
http://www.scancom.co.uk/product.php/473/330//b9ba7f9a56b4681f198b265373696eff
Owning both Orange and Vodafone datacards I still remain COMPLETELY unconvinved by 3G though.
Seems so. click the link above then follow the link at the bottom of that page 'All tariffs and promotions'. There it is explained what data tariff bundles one can get.
Yep, if you stick a normal, everyday T-Mobile sim in a 3G phone in the UK, then you'll be able to transfer data at 3G rates.
As far as I know they haven't sorted out video calling yet but it's "on it's way" (although I don't think I know anyone with a videophone anyway).
hah ha! "transfer at 3g rates" - that'll be the same as gprs and less reliable then!
3g is fine, if you're sat next to the mast, with no-one else sharing the connection, as soon as you get multiple users the data rate drops and connectivity issues rise. Its sh*te, especially if you are running apps that need a steady connection.
hah ha! "transfer at 3g rates" - that'll be the same as gprs and less reliable then!
3g is fine, if you're sat next to the mast, with no-one else sharing the connection, as soon as you get multiple users the data rate drops and connectivity issues rise. Its sh*te, especially if you are running apps that need a steady connection.
3G on T-Mobile
sub69 said:
Yep, if you stick a normal, everyday T-Mobile sim in a 3G phone in the UK, then you'll be able to transfer data at 3G rates.
As far as I know they haven't sorted out video calling yet but it's "on it's way" (although I don't think I know anyone with a videophone anyway).
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Got my 3G enabled on my UK T-M account. I'm now Video Calling like there's no tomorrow
Not sure how to get high-speed internet access though.....
Peace
3G on T-Mobile
sub69 said:
Yep, if you stick a normal, everyday T-Mobile sim in a 3G phone in the UK, then you'll be able to transfer data at 3G rates.
As far as I know they haven't sorted out video calling yet but it's "on it's way" (although I don't think I know anyone with a videophone anyway).
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Got my 3G enabled on my UK T-M account. I'm now Video Calling like there's no tomorrow
Not sure how to get high-speed internet access though.....
Peace
griZlyadams said:
hah ha! "transfer at 3g rates" - that'll be the same as gprs and less reliable then!
3g is fine, if you're sat next to the mast, with no-one else sharing the connection, as soon as you get multiple users the data rate drops and connectivity issues rise. Its sh*te, especially if you are running apps that need a steady connection.
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Compared to GPRS, I find UMTS significantly quicker on my Nokia, but that's probably just luck...
SuperDDD said:
Got my 3G enabled on my UK T-M account. I'm now Video Calling like there's no tomorrow...
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Didn't realise video calling worked, How did you get that set up? And how/how much do they charge for it??
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Didn't realise video calling worked, How did you get that set up? And how/how much do they charge for it??
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It has to be enabled on your account I think.
Bless
sub69 said:
Didn't realise video calling worked, How did you get that set up? And how/how much do they charge for it??
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15p/min to another UK T-M number
50p/min to other UK networks
Blessings
I hear its third generation, like faster internet, well I have t-mobile gprs, will it be faster?...
Like GPRS but instead of 10k speeds, u get 300-500k speeds (depending on your MNO). Naturally u eat up costs faster too...
Also allows video phone
craigiecraigie4 said:
Like GPRS but instead of 10k speeds, u get 300-500k speeds (depending on your MNO). Naturally u eat up costs faster too...
Also allows video phone
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Well, I have T-Mobile unlimited GPRS internet plan within the United States, so if I got this my internet would be insanely fast?
It only works if u r in a 3G coverage area. But yes, I'm using mine as a modem whilst out of the office, and it's not far off being connected to adsl. In my country I pay US$0.15/Mb which means u can hit a Gig without feeling any pain what-so-ever.
How could I find out if T-Mobile in the United States supports 3G?
imablackhat said:
How could I find out if T-Mobile in the United States supports 3G?
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Umm... ask T-Mobile?
I didn't think the US had 3G. :?:
Dude,
THere is no 3G coverage in the entire North America.
Forget about 3G in US.
markyeungcy said:
Dude,
THere is no 3G coverage in the entire North America.
Forget about 3G in US.
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man, I hate the US, sometimes I wish I lived elsewhere.
markyeungcy said:
Dude,
THere is no 3G coverage in the entire North America.
Forget about 3G in US.
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actually thats not true, Cingular is rolling out HSDPA very soon, and that very close to ADSL speeds and you can also do voice and data at the same time, try that with verizon's EvDO, you cant because verison ev-DO stands for Evolution Data Only, s
HEy, imablackcat,
Tmo USA just unrolled Edge in many places, and will be expanding, and is shooting to have 3g in 4th quater 2007. Stop whining, USA is about 3 years or so behind the rest of the world in a lot of technology: cell phones being one of them. We can iether suck it up, or move to Europe......
Good luck!
EDGE won;t work on the JJ, nor will HSDPA I'm afraid.
HSDPA is sometimes called 4G - it's potentially magnitudes faster that 3G - easily 3Gig transfer rates - depending on MNO's allowed bandwidth.
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How could I find out if T-Mobile in the United States supports 3G?
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I was under the impression that after AT&T merged with Cingular they then started rolling out UMTS this year. I think you can get 3G in limited places. Phone them and ask.
My friend's 8525 gets about 200 kbit/sec here in my living room on it's wireless data, and my moto razr gets about 35 kbit/sec sitting right next to it.
(testing to dslreports mspeed)
Does that tell anything about what sort of data coverage I have here @ my house ? I'm a bit confused by all the data rates AT&T has, and which phones do what.
I'm in zip code 72801, Russellville, AR, USA
Thanks !
DLD
RacerX10 said:
My friend's 8525 gets about 200 kbit/sec here in my living room on it's wireless data, and my moto razr gets about 35 kbit/sec sitting right next to it.
(testing to dslreports mspeed)
Does that tell anything about what sort of data coverage I have here @ my house ? I'm a bit confused by all the data rates AT&T has, and which phones do what.
I'm in zip code 72801, Russellville, AR, USA
Thanks !
DLD
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I may be wrong, but the 8525 has 3G Internet and the RAZR has EDGE.
At first glance, I'd say that the Moto razr is connecting over a GPRS connection, and the 8525 is connecting on either a really fast EDGE connection or a really slow UMTS (3G) connection.
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At first glance, I'd say that the Moto razr is connecting over a GPRS connection, and the 8525 is connecting on either a really fast EDGE connection or a really slow UMTS (3G) connection.
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exactly what i was looking for .. thanks !
DLD
just to give you an idea of what I have seen by testing on the same site with my herm100 on at&t.
from 42 to a max of 927. I usually in my home area (11214) about 200-300. nothing like what was advertised, 400-700 I called twice about this and they gave me $20.00 off one month... yeah... great.
so what is the max in edge and max in 3g? does anyone know what at&t allows?
Guys i've tried everything, APN settings, Build.prop file mods etc ...
but my download speed remains at 44-45 kb/sec!!!
someone please help, I've tried posting this in the rom thread too ...
regards.
helps if you tell us what network you are using
Yes your network may be restricting your quality of service (qos) to that level
I only get 3G not HSPDA on Virgin and I checked its a qos issue - working on them, but they are very slow getting back
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helps if you tell us what network you are using
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my bad,
T-Mobile UK network, with Unlimited Data plan.
regards
johnerz said:
Yes your network may be restricting your quality of service (qos) to that level
I only get 3G not HSPDA on Virgin and I checked its a qos issue - working on them, but they are very slow getting back
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the thing is I got HSDPA speeds on winmo 6.5, and it was reasonably fast, 45 kb/sec is riddiculously slow ... plus the H icon also shows up when I use Android also 45 kb/sec is well below 3G speeds ...
I dunno whats going on, but I'll speak to T-mobile anyway and see what excuse they come up with ...
regards.
how long have you had the plan? they do speed limit the newer users
plan
Richy99 said:
how long have you had the plan? they do speed limit the newer users
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Almost a year
I've done the whole diagnosis tweaking (release 6) and pretty much all of the other tweaks I've found in these very helpful threads.
But my download and upload speeds are atrocious. 80-150 kbs mostly. I ALWAYS have a 3g signal. I'm located in Boston and before this I had a Tilt2, which data speeds avg. 2000 - 3500 kbs.
Could it be my sim card? it is like 3-4 years old. Just a thought, because really i have no idea.
I am a novice when it comes to this type of tweaking. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thx
The specs indicate that the Focus is only capable of HSPA (HSDPA and HSUPA), not HSPA+.
Michael.
ouch, that hurts....8(
Thanks for the quick reply...much appreciated
But your Focus should still be able to match the speed of your Tilt2 which is HSPA as well (but with HSUPA disabled). The real world experience really depends where you are and how many AT&T customers are on the same tower as you. I routinely get about 100kbps speed (download) on my various 3G smart phones as well here in nation's capital.
On the other hand, a lot of ppl who bought the new '4G' HSPA+ AT&T phones (Inspire 4G and Atrix 4G) are also rarely ever get HSPA+ speed at all. Those so called 4G phones also comes with HSUPA disabled.
So, in the end, it is the same crappy AT&T network that limits your connection speed, really doesn't matter what phone you have. I'll be happy if I can reach the full 3G speed (2 to 3 mbps down, 1mbps up) in next few years. And refuse to play the AT&T '4G' game.
You should get a new sim card considering it is 3-4 years old that will affect connectivity to 3g and hspa network..
Boston network shouldn't be a problem.
Samsung Focus At&t USA
I had the same problem when I had an old SIM card in my att fuze when trying to connect to 3g and hspa speed networks...rule of thumb is buy a new SIM when switching to a new phone....it also depends on what network your on...are you at&t?
Samsung Focus At&t USA
Yes, I am currently on Att network. Which I must say was really reliable and fast, up until the last few months...
And I will get a new sim card after work today or early tomorrow. I will let you know if that helps at all.
Thanks peeps 8)
Jcavz said:
I've done the whole diagnosis tweaking (release 6) and pretty much all of the other tweaks I've found in these very helpful threads.
But my download and upload speeds are atrocious. 80-150 kbs mostly. I ALWAYS have a 3g signal. I'm located in Boston and before this I had a Tilt2, which data speeds avg. 2000 - 3500 kbs.
Could it be my sim card? it is like 3-4 years old. Just a thought, because really i have no idea.
I am a novice when it comes to this type of tweaking. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thx
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Samsung Focus unlocked I get 3G+ in EU, if that helps. Seemed pretty fast, but I haven't done a speed test, though.
Usually I unlock my phone as soon as I get it home. With a bunch of unknowns with the Focus, I'm waiting it out right now before I do anything
So My phone is still locked 8)
Thanks for the help
I got 3G+ icoon with Rogers ROM, but not with AT&T ROM. And there's tool which can enable 3G+ icon, so I think it's just a registry issue.
3g+
I also get 3G+ with a Rogers sim card in my Focus, same card in the BB only 3G.
Is it possible to check whether this is just graphic, or there is a real difference in d/u speeds? I am using AT&T Focus in Europe.
You can check real speed with speediest.net to differentiate whether its gfx only or real network.
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I also get 3G+ with a Rogers sim card in my Focus, same card in the BB only 3G.
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I'd love to hear what results you get if you test out the download/upload speeds. Like others have said you can use speedtest.net or there's a pretty good app called Bandwidth that I use.
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I'm getting a Focus and will unlock it to use on T-Mobile. What's the highest speed I can get? Thanks.
ikingblack said:
I'm getting a Focus and will unlock it to use on T-Mobile. What's the highest speed I can get? Thanks.
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7.2 mbps download
siralex241 said:
7.2 mbps download
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tmobile's edge network is that fast?
minori_aoi said:
I got 3G+ icoon with Rogers ROM, but not with AT&T ROM. And there's tool which can enable 3G+ icon, so I think it's just a registry issue.
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Do you have a link to the tool that enables the 3G+ icon
baritoneguy said:
Do you have a link to the tool that enables the 3G+ icon
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minori_aoi said:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Connectivity\CellularUx\DataConnectionIcon
1XHSDPA = "3G+"
You can basically change it into anything (3 chars max.). And I prefer "H", instead of "3G+".
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My original post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17018543&postcount=6