case/car mount question - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories

well, just got a kaiser variant (at&t tilt) and have a question.... i was thinking about a proclip/brodit, but also want the seidio rubberized case and was wondering.... do they fit together??? at all?
any help would be appreciated.
edit: nevermind, I just sat in my car for the drive home and realised my car has an mp3 holder that is too small for my mp3 players... but it holds my tilt nicely . I even get great gps signal!

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Just a couple of questions....

Hello,
First of all thanks for all the great tips and tweaks on this site. I've had my Mini S for a few weeks now and I am finally getting it set up the way I want. There are however a couple of things that I could do with some help with.
Firstly I have read about MemMaid and Pocket Mechanic Pro and was wondering if Pocket Mechanic can do all that MemMaid can and if the extra features are worth the extra money. Or do people still think MemMaid is invaluable?
Secondly I am going to be using my Wizard as a replacement for a CD Changer in my car, as the changer died and it seems stupid to spend more money on it. Originally I was going to use the Wizard to play Flac files, and TCPMP does this very well, but the amount of space that they take up and the fact that I can't connect an external hard disk (mores the pity) means I am going down the MP3 route.
I am going to make an adapter cable to fit to my stero following these plans: http://nodivisions.com/tech/kenwood_aux_adapter/
I'll have it going to a 2.5mm jack by default.
Can anyone see any problems regarding this?
So in the car I'm going to need a cradle for the Wizard. I have seen various ones around but I need it to be able to cope with being in the PDAir Flip type case ( http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_194&products_id=2155 )
I think the Brodit Pro Clip might do it, but it may be too tight / not fit with the PDAir case on it.
Lastly I was going to use TCPMP as my MP3 player. Are there any reasons why I should use this rather than WM?
Thanks in advance
Ian
1) Memaid does a lot more useful things then pocket mechanic (I have both). Is Memaid invaluable? No... the only reason I got it was because of a queue problem and for some reason pocket mechanic stopped being able to read my queue, no idea why. It's handy, but don't think it's worth the money...
2) IMO, using the Wizard as a music player in the car would be a HUGE pain in the ass. You would be much better off going with something like an iPod. A dedicated music device. I use an iPod in my car w/ an FM trasnmitter and it works very nicely. I couldn't imagine even trying to screw with the Wizard... selecting songs, taking it in and out of the car every time... what if you got a phone call while trying to listen to music?
I think it'd just be too much of a hassle that way. If you want mobile audio, go the route of a dedicated music player. You'll be far happier, trust me.
Thanks for the reply. I'll give buying MemMaid some thought then if you don't think it's all that necessary.
I think I am still going to go down the Wizard as an MP3 player route. I can understand where you are coming from but I don't think it's going to be that much hassle. I rarely receive calls in my car and it's illegal in the UK to take calls while you are driving unless you have an incar kit / headset. I really dislike iTunes so I couldn't see myself getting an iPod unless it was to run ipodlinux on it but currently the newer models aren't supported. That and they aren't very niche any more. When you can buy them in a car shop like Halfords you know that they are way too common
hi,
just a note of caution reference buying a case - on the brodit holders, they wont accomodate any additional fitted cases, as they are bespoke moulded to the devices chassis only, and it wont slide in or out correctly with a case fitted,
Hope that helps!
bryson
hi,
just a note of caution reference buying a case - on the brodit holders, they wont accomodate any additional fitted cases, as they are bespoke moulded to the devices chassis only, and it wont slide in or out correctly with a case fitted,
Hope that helps!
bryson
Thanks thats most helpful. Probably going to have to take a trip to carphone warehouse and try before I buy!

Kaiser car kits?

Is there a decent one out there that will accomodate the screen being opened, will hold it landscape as well as portrait etc...
Info please...
Hermes car kit for the Kaiser?
Can anybody tell me if the current Hermes car kits will fit the Kaiser?
I contacted Proclip and the said they have them in production and will have them no later then November but hopefully sooner. They are in my opinion the best out there.......no I don't work for them!
www.proclipusa.com
Brodit said a similar thing to me in an email. A couple of weeks.
Of course they did -- Proclip is the US distributor for Brodit.
For what will probably be a less expensive solution check out http://www.4ustuff.com/product.php?mode=9&search=htc+tytn+ii -- they're a manufacturer & sell only in the wholesale market.
3waygeek said:
Of course they did -- Proclip is the US distributor for Brodit.
For what will probably be a less expensive solution check out http://www.4ustuff.com/product.php?mode=9&search=htc+tytn+ii -- they're a manufacturer & sell only in the wholesale market.
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Since they sell only to wholesalers...how do you propose we buy from them?
I don't -- just providing a preview of coming attractions.
This universal kit works well ... especially when you want the keyboard out
http://cgi.ebay.com/Car-PDA-Phone-H...yZ130797QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Something that I dont like this kind of universal holder that uses a "spring", where there is a button to release the grip ... the spring will not tight anymore after let say several months.
And I am really afraid if it is not tight, the car bumps into something on the road and then the beloved PDA jumps out of the holder ! It happened several times.
I am not sure with Brodit / Proclip brand, can you share your experience?
I use one from Arkon and the spring is loose now. So, I removed the spring and glued permanently, cut the grip to make it fit for the Kaiser. It is ugly (really) but it can now hold the Kaiser very tightly.
Never had a car kit before, always had a pocket in my car perfect for a phone. Changed car now though and need some sort of holder. Also want to do away with my Bluetooth headset.
Does a kit exist where you put the phone in the cradle, and it both charges and connects to a car head unit/microphone. Obviously not for the Kaiser yet, but if its available for other phones, it will for this in time.
Know some executive cars have this built in and some companies cater for the aftermarket, but they seem to want hundreds. Am capable of installing said kit, just need a place to buy!
How about a Bluetooth car kit? they are available for most cars and head units (be it third party or factory fit units). and you aren't tied to a perticular phone or even make of phone.
gogol said:
Something that I dont like this kind of universal holder that uses a "spring", where there is a button to release the grip ... the spring will not tight anymore after let say several months.
And I am really afraid if it is not tight, the car bumps into something on the road and then the beloved PDA jumps out of the holder ! It happened several times.
I am not sure with Brodit / Proclip brand, can you share your experience?
I use one from Arkon and the spring is loose now. So, I removed the spring and glued permanently, cut the grip to make it fit for the Kaiser. It is ugly (really) but it can now hold the Kaiser very tightly.
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The man speaks the truth - i nearly crashed as i swerved trying to catch my bloody Uni!
lol
dangerous things.. need an alternative!
I like this one
http://www.kidigi.com/Car CHT 9000.asp
as it is much smaller than the mounts which also contain a speaker built into the mount itself. I find these to be fugly and way too bulky.
Also, this is easier to take apart on the end holding the speaker and wire around it so I can run it into my AUX jack in the car. I also have a mic tucked away above the rear view mirror, have wired a spare power socket in the glove box, and tuck the wires under a kuda mount on the dash. It's a very clean look and almost appears original equipment.
All I do is cradle my phone when I get in the car and I have MP3 tunes through the stereo. When a call comes in, I just hit the answer button on the phone and the mic kicks in, while the call comes through the speakers. IMO, better than BT because I can also play my MP3s wihtout having to resort to a downgraded music signal via an FM receiver.
I've been using a very similar setup with my 8125 and also pair to a Bluetooth GPS reciever, which will now be built into my soon to arrive Kaiser Works vey nice.
Downsides? Unless I put some kind of rotation dvice between the kuda mount and the kidigi, landscape mode is a no-go. Could possibly use the seidio model for this at the expense of some additional bulk, but it looks like they have stocked out (www.seidioonline.com). It's also pretty solidly mounted, so if you like the idea of a gooseneck that can be adjusted on the fly, the kuda would not work well.
funkstar said:
How about a Bluetooth car kit? they are available for most cars and head units (be it third party or factory fit units). and you aren't tied to a perticular phone or even make of phone.
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Was tempted by that, but if i need to run cables in the car to charge the phone, thought i might as well put one to the speakers/mic too. Im lazy too, dont want to get my phone out and turn bluetooth on and off every time i get in and out the car
Jgermuga - So connecting the original cable from that mount that leads to the speaker, to the Aux in on your HU, when the phone rings will it automatically switch to Aux and send the call audio to the speakers or do you have to switch it to aux on the HU and then answer the phone?
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Jgermuga - So connecting the original cable from that mount that leads to the speaker, to the Aux in on your HU, when the phone rings will it automatically switch to Aux and send the call audio to the speakers or do you have to switch it to aux on the HU and then answer the phone?
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I need to switch over to AUX on the HU, but still easier than enabling BT on the phone, especially when driving. Plus, unless BT is turned on when the call comes in, I am not sure there is a way to force the connection to go to hadsfree via the car. My change over might involve manual intervention, but it is easy to just ask the caller to hang on a second, cradle the phone and switch over to AUX.
I find it a lot less distracting than trying to get at the BT screen, enable BT, switch to phone pad, hit softkey for menu, enable handfree, and hope I don't hit any buttons inadvertantly, or wind up dropping the call. I have also had the call go into limbo where I had to end it and redial... Trust me, BT is great for headsets, syncs, A2DP, etc, but I am still not thrilled with how it works in the car.
And having it hardwired is pretty impressive when I hit the Voice Command hot button on my phone, say "Play, Dave Matthews" and off it goes!
I had wizard with which i was using holder from Herbert Richter system.
not being disappointed with the quality I'm buying another one for Kaiser.
gps4less have them on ebay for a nice price.
jgermuga said:
I need to switch over to AUX on the HU, but still easier than enabling BT on the phone, especially when driving. Plus, unless BT is turned on when the call comes in, I am not sure there is a way to force the connection to go to hadsfree via the car. My change over might involve manual intervention, but it is easy to just ask the caller to hang on a second, cradle the phone and switch over to AUX.
I find it a lot less distracting than trying to get at the BT screen, enable BT, switch to phone pad, hit softkey for menu, enable handfree, and hope I don't hit any buttons inadvertantly, or wind up dropping the call. I have also had the call go into limbo where I had to end it and redial... Trust me, BT is great for headsets, syncs, A2DP, etc, but I am still not thrilled with how it works in the car.
And having it hardwired is pretty impressive when I hit the Voice Command hot button on my phone, say "Play, Dave Matthews" and off it goes!
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Sold!
So, i buy this, cut the speaker/charger off, i then need to extend the cables, one to a 12v, one to a mic and one to my aux in? Never tried anything like this before but willing to give it a shot. Any generic eBay mic do the job?
Car Holder
I have had good luck with Herbert Richter with my Vario and I have just bought the cradle for the Vario III and I imagine it will be just as good, they are great quality and do the job straight out of the box.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/T-Mobile-MDA-...ryZ75447QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
If anyone is interested. They do vent, bike, suction based holders so look at other items.
Russ
does anyone make a car adapter that is compatible with a weighted friction mount?
Garmin devices have this thing called a friction mount that is weighted. basically the underside is a soft rubber material that keeps the base from moving, and it is filled with about a pound (1/2 kilo for those across the pond) of sand. the base is very sturdy. i have taken many trips with this base with no movement at all.
http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-Portab...5?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1191742690&sr=1-1
My guess is that Garmin are the only one that would likely make any further attachments as they hold the copyright etc, seeing as the HTC devices are competition for them in so much as the TomTom/Copilot route then I dare say it would only be 3rd party taiwanese/chinese companies that are likely to risk breaching the copyright to make such holders to fit on.
Russ

ORA Car Pack for HTC TyTN II - Interest

Hi, I'm thinking on buying ORA Car Pack
http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=153768&asource=151727
They sell it for 27 dollars. Does anyone own this? Can someone give me a recommendation? I want to buy a cheap carkit for my kaiser, with 12v power included. I want to have it glue to my car dashboard or to my windshield with a vent mount.
Thanks in advanced
In the past I also bought car kits made for that specific PDA I owned by that time. The problem though is that - during your "PDA-life" - you spend a fortune on this so I decided to go for some "general" system like Brodit or Richter (see http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=156824). The advantage with this system is that you only have to replace the actual PDA holder rather than the complete system when you get a new tech toy - which is also less expensive.
I'm very happy with the Richter system now since quite a number of years.
Christian
Well interesting point of view but the ORA car park system, seems to be a universal type of holder and would as such suit their owners in case of pdas change
I'm curious about return of experiences too.
About that ORA system, but also about the Arkon CM799 http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=147464
which would seem to suit the TyTN II too.
As I'm thinking of having the Kaiser into some kind of hard plastic or rubber protector case, I think it's best I stay away from specific to the TyTN II car kit since the phone would be to thick to hold in the especially designed systems.
One question for you Eurybia though : does the adapter you got for the Richter system allows to have the ability to have the Kaiser keypad opened or closed at will ?
Thanks !
I dont like Arkon product. I bought an active charger before, but after not more than 5 months, the "spring" to hold the PDA was loosen (not tight anymore).
Derek Smalls said:
One question for you Eurybia though : does the adapter you got for the Richter system allows to have the ability to have the Kaiser keypad opened or closed at will ?
Thanks !
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Nope.
And even when I think about this feature now I wouldn't miss that anyway. In times of bluetooth, voice dialing and more or less mainly GPS usage in the car I wouldn't use the keyboard while driving anyway. For me the most important thing is that the unit is fixed properly in the holder so it won't drop between the seats or alike even on rough roads.
My eyes are too bad and my fingers too big to play distant-mice-piano anyway.
Anyway, nor the arkon active holder nor the brodit (or Richter ) active holder costs 27 dollars. So I asked again to see if anyone owns one of this or if someon can recomend an active holder carkit for more or less the same price.

Car holder

Hey guys. I'm looking for a good car holder for my Fuze. Any suggestions? I want to be able to have it open or closed.
Thanks everyone!
tinpanalley said:
Hey guys. I'm looking for a good car holder for my Fuze. Any suggestions? I want to be able to have it open or closed.
Thanks everyone!
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www.prolipusa.com
They have it all. You get a device holder. There are several to choose from Portrait or Landscape, with charger or not, ect. You pair it with a vehicle mount. If they have a custom one for your vehicle, they are very good and snap in place. Checkout the 2003 Ford E-series. That is my van. The vehicle mount is in the perfect place and snaps into place.
I like this one http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=176580 because it gives you 3 connections in one package.
Hey dlweston, prolipusa isn't working. At least not the link you posted.
Typo?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/In-Car-Charge...14&_trkparms=72:1300|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318
www.proclipusa.com
The expansys link is to a product by brodit. Proclip is the US arm for brodit distribution. No markup if you buy from proclip.
yes, the proclips are expensive but awesome. I bit the bullet after getting my fuze and glad I did. Fit perfectly into my car and I like the options they give you.
Wow, that's a great solution.
But looking at the pics it makes me think of something that hadn't ocurred to me.
Is there an accelerometer in the Fuze so you only have to tip it to change to landscape? I noticed all the proclip images show the keyboard slid out and thought that might mean that it HAS to be slid out to go landscape...
Thanks!

HTC touch pro car kit

I've just bought this off ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=140294161361
I had a similar car kit for my prophet for gps navigation. it's not a hands free kit though. it had an inbuilt speaker so you can hear directions clearer and you can charge at the same time.
this seller is selling one with out the fm transmitter for approx the same price, so went with this for the fm transmitter. Hope it works ok... not a real fan of the swan neck design, prefer the angled neck as in the picture. This guy is selling it a bit cheaper than other sellers with the same/similar product. Other sites like brando were selling it for a lot more. There is the original HTC or other cheaper products, but no speaker.
Will review it once i get it, really hope it works ok like for my prophet...
wanwarlock said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=140294161361
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Wanted to take a look cause I'm looking for a nice solution but the link already returns :
"This item has ended with Buy it Now."
that's because i bought that. hehe
you can go and look at the sellers other listings. he has 2 kinds of these as i said above, 1 with speaker/no fm transmitter or 1 with speaker/fm transmitter.
Don't quiet understand the listing:Ca
Item # 130282049119 HTC Touch Pro FM TRANSMITTER CAR MOUNT KIT CHARGER $ 19.99
Flexible goose neck included
Item # 120354898072 Car kit for HTC Touch pro FM transmitter + charger $ 27.99
Flexible Gooseneck included
But both show a swivel mount (which I do like much better) and both items look the same
In case the item # disappears, sellers are zhoujing0209 and turbo-express
Can one clarify?
i think they maybe just copy & paste the descriptions. my seller is different than the 2 you listed. turbo-express was the most expensive 1 that i found including shipping.
yeah i like swivel as well. i think they all get them from the same supplier, hence the same 'stock' pics.
will tell when i get mine. looks like these 1s you can use as a handsfree...
Hah - I bought these last night.
I've already got a car charger.
A car mount - holder only.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=130282829189
Handsfree Mic
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=180321523945
3.5mm Audio to Pioneer Aux (CD Stacker control input)
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=320314793352
I figure the mic, the charger and the Pioneer input should all plug into the next device giving me a handsfree kt that comes through my stereo. I'll also be able to play music through it.
3in1 Stereo device. Two mini usb ports and 1 3.5mm audio jack socket.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=180322159245
If it works I'll then invest some money in a mini usb extension cable just to tidy things up.
Well...
mattyman said:
Hah - I bought these last night.
If it works I'll then invest some money in a mini usb extension cable just to tidy things up.
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So...did this all work? I really like the idea of using an external mic and then pumping the sound through the stereo.
Still waiting on delivery of the items...
mattyman said:
Still waiting on delivery of the items...
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Let us know how the FM transmitter work? Usually the sound quality is nasty.
I found this on DX a similar mount for $17.99, just to give you guys an idea how much other people are selling it for.
pandaboyy said:
Let us know how the FM transmitter work? Usually the sound quality is nasty.
I found this on DX a similar mount for $17.99, just to give you guys an idea how much other people are selling it for.
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still haven't received mine yet, but my wife did say i got a parcel this morning. will update if it is & a brief review.
DX is always good for cheap electric/tronic stuff. they don't have a touch pro version AFAIK, also reading the forums, seems like DX gave another version to a buyer without the speaker. the pictured version looks exactly like the 1 i have for my prophet but mine is the swivel neck version.
anyone know if this will work with s cdma version
HTC Touch Pro car kit has in http://www.expansys.pt/p.aspx?i=170929 ???
if the holder fits, you can use it...
I bought one for my TP... It works ok!!!
I've had mine for a few days now. I have the cradle WITHOUT the FM transmitter, It's a charger/holder only. Fit and finish are a little above what you'd expect for a $15 piece of plastic. To be honest I expected to find casting tabs and rough/sharp edges, and I didn't. Granted that it's cheap plastic, but it works well with me FUZE.
**WARNING** The power supply that comes with it is regulated to 5v. It is NOT passing the full 12v from the car to the cradle. I know that other car kit brands (Seidio especially) put the power regulation inside of the cradle itself and send out a 12v cigarette adapter with their kit. Personally, I had my Seidio kit for my Wizard hardwired into my car. I'm glad I checked voltage prior to connection. I'd imagine the full 12v would fry the USB port/charging circuit in the phone.
Pix to follow next time I go to the car...
i did get the cradle yesterday.
a bit different from the pictured item, it came with a goose neck - but ok. the suction cup initially wasn't holding well, after a few tries & a bit of saliva (ewwww! haha) it worked ok & managed to hold my touch pro. good build to be honest
the fm transmitter worked well. i opened s2p & the sound is good. as good as a clear radio channel. volume is a bit on the low side - even at touch pro max volume. need to turn the radio vol. up quite a bit (remember to turn it down once finished!) the channels go up by 0.1 MHz (if that's correct) so pain if you need to use higher frequencies. I just used 88.5 i think, no radio stations here using that frequency.
Good fit of my touch pro, not as tight as the 1 for my prophet (which was tight enough to cause a bit of chipped paint). i guess it's not for CDMA versions due to the back cover?
the cable that came with it is a bit short if you want to mount it on the windscreen. it is the coil type, but stretches if put on windshield. a worry is that the stretch would make the whole thing fall!
there is no speaker or mic input!! the description says it has a speaker & mic & can be used as a handsfree kit. NO it can't...
1 other annoying thing is that if you use the fm transmitter, u can't charge the pda & vise versa. there is a switch on the side to choose from charging/transmitter. damn annoying if you asked me, wanted this to work with charging & transmitting... u can only do 1 thing at a time. also the short or tight adaptor that came with it...
not too sure on voltage, i guess it is 5V?
all in all, good product/build but annoying that it does not have a speaker/mic input & u can't use the transmitter while charging!
will post pics when i get home. i don't know whether it's worth complaining or not to the seller about the product description not accurate, but for $56 NZD i might just do that...
pbmestre said:
HTC Touch Pro car kit has in http://www.expansys.pt/p.aspx?i=170929 ???
if the holder fits, you can use it...
I bought one for my TP... It works ok!!!
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yes & no. that is just a holder & adaptor. what i'm talking about is like that with a speaker/fm transmitter so that if e.g. u use GPS, the voice is louder.
*Looks at watch and sighs wistfully while still waiting for parts*
Why don't you open it up to see if you can connect the wires yourself? Shouldn't be too hard to tweak the kit to charge and receive at the same time...
might do that actually. was thinking of it earlier on. i'm sure u can 'cross' the switch so that it can both work together...
I just receive my car kit.
This is what i received ( sorry for the quality of the pictures)
If you link the marked wires together the phone will always be on charge
My biggest problem is that the phone wont fit with the Seidio's Innocase Surface Case on it.
I am planning to atach a microphone also.
how did you get the swivel neck?? i hate my goose neck....
it's the same unit as mine, i guess you bought from the same seller? turbo-express? i emailed the guy saying that it doesn't have a speaker & it came with a goose neck, he replied in broken english like - oops sorry, not like in the picture & no speaker.... hmmmm
used this over the weekend to navigate, i hate the fact that i can't listen to my cd's while i use it. the car kit for my prophet just had a nice, loud speaker which was excellent.
another problem is that for some reason, the transmitter would switch off all of a sudden intermittently.
show us your completed 'hack' ok? will do like you said so it will always be on charge
shame about your case... maybe now use invisible shield or the likes????

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