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Just sitting in a restaurant, no wifi, not connected in anyway to anywhere.. and the Activesync shows up ?!?!? Writing the correct last time I synced my device (which was this morning at home). WTF is this?
go to activesync app on the ppc
create a server source
enter a totally fictitious name and address
follow the wizard, dont select any items to sync
set the period to sync as manual for both
finish the wizard
open the options
delete the new server source
the default setting is to auto start and sync, by creating the fictitious entry it allows you to change those settings
deleting the server source retains the sync period settings
simon_darley said:
go to activesync app on the ppc
create a server source
enter a totally fictitious name and address
follow the wizard, dont select any items to sync
set the period to sync as manual for both
finish the wizard
open the options
delete the new server source
the default setting is to auto start and sync, by creating the fictitious entry it allows you to change those settings
deleting the server source retains the sync period settings
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Simon,
I have done this numerous times when I had the O2 ROM. Now I have the IMate ROM, it works if I am not connected to anything, so that is good, for that is what I want. One thing I notice when I am connected through WIFI, active sync application on my Exec still opens up on the background. Are you having the same experiences with this setup or am I missing a setting here?
my active sync doesnt auto start AS at all anymore if i set the server source to sync manually, then delete the server source.
i use wifi a lot and it also doesnt start it.
there could be other reasons such as programs you have that auto update from the web when wifi is running, eg SPB weather. again, i set this to update manually.
what other programs do you have that require or use an AS or WIFI connection?
simon_darley said:
there could be other reasons such as programs you have that auto update from the web when wifi is running, eg SPB weather. again, i set this to update manually.
what other programs do you have that require or use an AS or WIFI connection?
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I think you are right. I forgot about Pocket Weather's update settings. Thanks.
Hi all, im kind of new to this but i just read about push email with exchange server and i was wondering how i could use it with my mda vario. I've already installed an updated rom with push email but i dont know how to use it. can any one fill me in on this? thanks for any help.
You need a Exchange 2003 server with at least SP2 installed. Also a UMTS/GPRS connection because is not working over WIFI.
Bitfrotter 8)
Go to www.mail2web.com, sign up there. Than put the settings from the website in the Exchange Server settings in Active Sync on your PPC. Set your current email address to automatically forward your email to your mail2web email address. Enable GPRS and enable push email from the Comm Manager and bingo, push email is yours.
Ok, ive already signed up with mail2web but i want to automatically retrieve hotmail emails. i don't see an option on hotmail to forward all my emails to mail2web. am i missing something here? sorry, im inexperienced and all and these are probably lame questions and all. but please help me out. after reading that article i got hyped up in doing this. thanks for any replies.
Bitfrotter said:
You need a Exchange 2003 server with at least SP2 installed. Also a UMTS/GPRS connection because is not working over WIFI.
Bitfrotter 8)
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I've gotten DirectPush to work over WiFi... Maybe that was an earlier ROM version though... I don't recall the circumstances under which I got it to work.
MS says that Direct Push does not work over WiFi. WiFi does not allow disconnected connections (in other words, a connection that allows for the data stream to be suspended). If WiFi did it, it would require a continuous connection that would drain the batteries at a very rapid pace.
Setting up Exchange for Direct Push is pretty easy. I set up ours in about 5 minutes.
One of the coolest things you can do with a correctly configured Exchange 2003 system is with the Mobile Admin pack (free download from MS). It allows you to tell the PDA that it needs to "self-destruct" in case the phone is stolen. A remote wipe will do a hard-reset on the phone, deleting all data not stored on an external SD.
I usually get my email on the MDA faster than Outlook on my desktop.
If any Exchange admins are out there, I can post how to set it up if anyone needs help.
exchange/activesync
Yes please!
Hotmail has deleted the possibility of forwarding mail automatically a few years ago in the free version, only Hotmail Plus subscribers can use this option. With gmail however it is still free. So a basic hotmail account will not be able to use Push over Exchange. You can however sign in to MSN Messenger on your device and will then be notified as soon as an email arrives on the hotmail server. This will cost you extra data charges though, since contacts coming online will also result in data transfer to your device.
Romp said:
MS says that Direct Push does not work over WiFi. WiFi does not allow disconnected connections (in other words, a connection that allows for the data stream to be suspended). If WiFi did it, it would require a continuous connection that would drain the batteries at a very rapid pace.
Setting up Exchange for Direct Push is pretty easy. I set up ours in about 5 minutes.
One of the coolest things you can do with a correctly configured Exchange 2003 system is with the Mobile Admin pack (free download from MS). It allows you to tell the PDA that it needs to "self-destruct" in case the phone is stolen. A remote wipe will do a hard-reset on the phone, deleting all data not stored on an external SD.
I usually get my email on the MDA faster than Outlook on my desktop.
If any Exchange admins are out there, I can post how to set it up if anyone needs help.
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that would be awesome if you know of a tutorial anywhere on this..
so by creating an exchange server as romp said, you can sync any email including hotmail? well that's really a bummer that microsoft disabled forwarding on hotmail. Its mainly my primary email which all my friends/family know. so it would be a miracle if anyone knew how to sync hotmail without subscribing to their hotmail plus.
Well, getting outside emails are a bit more complex. This is usually for a business, but there are plenty of POP-to-Exchange plug ins that would allow getting Hotmail emails. Of course, you would need the Hotmail Plus for the POP.
http://www.slipstick.com/exs/popconnect.htm
My answer was more concerning the Exchange Direct push question, not the hotmail one.
Where I work (yes, I did set up the Exchange system) we have GFI spam filtering and virus filtering (www.gfi.com) and they have a POP2Exchange bridge included. It just checks the account, downloads any POP emails, and drops it in the right mailbox.
Exchange is a complete system, not just mail. It has webmail, Windows Mobile direct push, calendar, contacts, and more. Unless you are in a company with Exchange or Small Business Server, its not a cheap thing to do for a home network.
If you DO have Exchange at your office, run to the IT guy and hurt him until he sets your phone up on it. Its all the functionality of Blackberry and more, built into Exchange.
I'll write that tutorial, g0nk.
ok so if we go the mail2web route... i dont need to install exchange 2003 on a pc myself? does it only work on windows server 2003?
im interested in doing this at my job but i want to make sure it is not too difficult
edit.. well we have our own domain email addresses so the [email protected] is not an option..
any suggestions?
Romp said:
Exchange is a complete system, not just mail. It has webmail, Windows Mobile direct push, calendar, contacts, and more.
If you DO have Exchange at your office, run to the IT guy and hurt him until he sets your phone up on it. Its all the functionality of Blackberry and more, built into Exchange.
I'll write that tutorial, g0nk.
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1) Agreed
2) I am the IT guy and it don't work on our server - the rootcertificate won't install to the PPC - an MS acknowledged problem............
3) Please forward ASAP !! Thanks !! :lol:
Is it a self published cert? Because you CAN get any externally issued cert to work just fine. We use a $15 GoDaddy cert with no problems.
The big screw up most people have with the cert (myself included) is that the cert is not correctly installed, even though it says it is.
Cheaper certs are called "Chained" certs. All certs need a path back to one of the big cert companies. So, companies like GoDaddy get approved to be second level cert issuers. IE on the PC will look at the cert and track it back to the main cert issuer. For example, the cert on GoDaddy goes from GoDaddy, to Starfield, to VeriCert. The VeriCert certificate is installed on all PCs.
Anyway, the problem is that the PC can follow an undefined cert path, the PPC can't. If you install the cert on the server, IE on the PC can figure out the whole path, PPC can't. So, the big thing is to make sure the MIDDLE CERTS are installed on the server. Even though everything seems fine, chances are that the middle ones are not (in this case STARFIELD)
The easiest way to find out if the cert is valid or not is try to get to your webmail on PIE. If you get a message about the cert, your server is not set up completely.
For my server, I had no luck until I found the Intermediary Cert and installed it. https://certificates.starfieldtech.com/Repository.go
Once that was done, my GoDaddy cert worked on the PPC and syncs went perfectly. Once the server has all the certs in the cert path installed, the PPC can validate each level. Until then, its clueless. Most people think you need to install the cert on the PPC. Its the server that needs it.
Does the self published cert only cause problems with direct push? I've got the "old" polling method working. I created a root CA on my server to sign the cert created for the web server and then turned that root CA into a CAB which was installed on the PPC. I should say that my phone doesn't have an AKU 2.xx rom on yet so I've not tested push mail.
This is all outlined in the following doc :
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/itsolutions/mobile/deploy/msfpdepguide.mspx
Also look at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/817379 if you are running a non sbs2003 exchange server in a configuration that doesn't have a front end/back end exchange server configuration. As there are some minor tweeks needed to the registry and to the default web server setup.
If you can do a remote Activesync, then DirectPush will work just fine.
A newbie Direct Push question:
I upgraded my 8125 ROM to the official Cingular June 19 version, and direct push SEEMS to be working great my my Hosted Exchange provider. When new email comes in to my Exchange server and/or a task / calendar / contact is changed on the desktop Outlook client, those get pushed quickly to the 8125.
Problem is, it doesn't seem to work in reverse. For example, IF I get an email pushed to me on my PDA, I read it and delete it on my PDA.....that deletion action is NOT getting syncronized back to my Exchange server. Is that by design, or is indeed something wrong?
Thanks in advance!
not sure if it helps, but you can change when pocket outlook deletes mail, there are 3 options:
on connect/disconnect
immediately
manually
I dunno if changing that will help you at all, but its in the pocket outlook options.
I'll shut up now, in case I misunderstood
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not sure if it helps, but you can change when pocket outlook deletes mail, there are 3 options:
on connect/disconnect
immediately
manually
I dunno if changing that will help you at all, but its in the pocket outlook options.
I'll shut up now, in case I misunderstood
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I appreciate your reply, but my question is beyond that......it centers around Driect Push.....my thinking is, regardless of that setting you referred to, once the email is deleted on the PDA, the PDA should "reverse-push" that deletion to the Exchange server, and mine does not seem to be doing that.
I hope that is a little clearer?
No, his answer was right. The reverse of the Push is not the same. You have to set the options as Jmel suggested. Its basically to save data.
This allows you to go through your mail, delete all your spam and crap, then update the server. Doing so immediately would be a waste. Recieving/sending emails is considered vital, deleting them...not so much.
Hello,
This may be a strange question, but how do you guys switch SMTP servers? I'd like to access the same mailbox over different connections (gprs, 2 different wifi). Reading mails is not an issue.
But for sending them, I need a different SMTP server for each of the connections (as I suspect everybody does). On my symbian phone, I could change the sending options of a mail, and one of the options is the mail-account used to send it. But this is not possible on the built in Outlook.
How do you guys do it?
(I'm planning to use QMail, which does support changing the account by which a mail is sent; but to make it more comfortable I also am working on a MortScript to change account settings when I want. There were some certificate issues in configuring QMail, but I think I solved it. The reason switching is important to me, is that my GPRS subscription has a volume limit, above which I have to pay extra. So if I can use an alternate connection, I prefer this.)
Jörg
V J said:
Hello,
This may be a strange question, but how do you guys switch SMTP servers? I'd like to access the same mailbox over different connections (gprs, 2 different wifi). Reading mails is not an issue.
But for sending them, I need a different SMTP server for each of the connections (as I suspect everybody does). On my symbian phone, I could change the sending options of a mail, and one of the options is the mail-account used to send it. But this is not possible on the built in Outlook.
How do you guys do it?
(I'm planning to use QMail, which does support changing the account by which a mail is sent; but to make it more comfortable I also am working on a MortScript to change account settings when I want. There were some certificate issues in configuring QMail, but I think I solved it. The reason switching is important to me, is that my GPRS subscription has a volume limit, above which I have to pay extra. So if I can use an alternate connection, I prefer this.)
Jörg
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Exactly the same q was aksed either here or some other PPC forum some days ago.
My answer (I pretty much know everything about mailer clients and internal database / file formats - see http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=569&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 ) is as follows: just switch your Qmail config files (the one that contains the SMTP server) from, say, a Mort script and restart Qmail.
If your mail server supports SMTP Auth, u don't need to do anything.
In the config pages, click on "my outgoing server requires authentication" then click on "use same settings as incomming"
Should solve the problem IF the smtp supports authentication.
Menneisyys:
Yes, that was my post (sorry, I should have linked to that particular thread). I'm just wondering if I'm the only one finding this a huge issue. Either way, I'm writing scripts as we speak (couldn't have done it without you referring to QMail). I also like to show on the today-screen which "smtp-profile" is active (found some ways of doing this too), and while I'm at it the script will also change PIE settings (not load images on gprs, load images on wifi). I'll make the necessary steps (along with the scripts and required softwares) in some tutorial, for reference.
(I had some issues with QMail, but I needed to add the certificate for my servers first).
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If your mail server supports SMTP Auth, u don't need to do anything.
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Yes, but neither my mobile operator, nor my work, nor my analog dialup provider (still need it) support smtp authoring... Come to think of it, I could always set up a VPN to my work, which will allow me to use their mail server (but the VPN is also traffic limited, and sometimes VERY slow)...
Jörg
V J said:
Menneisyys:
Yes, that was my post (sorry, I should have linked to that particular thread). I'm just wondering if I'm the only one finding this a huge issue. Either way, I'm writing scripts as we speak (couldn't have done it without you referring to QMail). I also like to show on the today-screen which "smtp-profile" is active (found some ways of doing this too), and while I'm at it the script will also change PIE settings (not load images on gprs, load images on wifi). I'll make the necessary steps (along with the scripts and required softwares) in some tutorial, for reference.
(I had some issues with QMail, but I needed to add the certificate for my servers first).
Yes, but neither my mobile operator, nor my work, nor my analog dialup provider (still need it) support smtp authoring... Come to think of it, I could always set up a VPN to my work, which will allow me to use their mail server (but the VPN is also traffic limited, and sometimes VERY slow)...
Jörg
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Did you finally manage to achieve with something useful ... ? I'm in the same situation and looking for something easy to use to switch from one SMTP to another depending on the channel used (3g or Wifi).
Unfortunately, no...
My current solution is to use my work server: it requires me to set up a VPN first and then log on to it. When doing so, I can use it from anywhere; it works but is far from efficient (starting the VPN takes some time).
I thought of using a windows mobile program to have the equivalent of the hosts file in Windows (this is a small hackers trick: configure the software with a dummy name, and use the hosts file to have this resolve to the IP address you want), but it doesn't allow for easy switching, particularly as I needed a logon for one server. If you need this hosts utility, I should search for it (let me know if you need it); but it doesn't make switching that much easier from changing the settings in the mail client.
A possibility could be to use QMail as the mail client, but this is not possible for me due to some security settings I need (it never could download the mail bodies).
Jörg
Did the Mortscript avenue not pan out? I would of thought this would be something that it could easily solve.
Yes, but apparently the SMTP server settings are not stored in the registry, but in the outlook file which holds the account settings.
Editing this file is possible (founds some references on it), but generally not recommended as it easily is corrupted.
Jörg
gmail's servers?
V J said:
Yes, but apparently the SMTP server settings are not stored in the registry, but in the outlook file which holds the account settings.
Editing this file is possible (founds some references on it), but generally not recommended as it easily is corrupted.
Jörg
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can't you just setup a gmail account, enable it for POP access, and use their provided SMTP server with your gmail username/password? leave incoming via POP on your existing one...
V J said:
Unfortunately, no...
My current solution is to use my work server: it requires me to set up a VPN first and then log on to it. When doing so, I can use it from anywhere; it works but is far from efficient (starting the VPN takes some time).
I thought of using a windows mobile program to have the equivalent of the hosts file in Windows (this is a small hackers trick: configure the software with a dummy name, and use the hosts file to have this resolve to the IP address you want), but it doesn't allow for easy switching, particularly as I needed a logon for one server. If you need this hosts utility, I should search for it (let me know if you need it); but it doesn't make switching that much easier from changing the settings in the mail client.
A possibility could be to use QMail as the mail client, but this is not possible for me due to some security settings I need (it never could download the mail bodies).
Jörg
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Well ... no thanks ... I'd like very much to have something easy to use ...
It is like to make sure that when wifi is available than use wifi and drop GPRS.
We can then easily imagine that knowing about an available existing Wifi network, the soft should be able to automatically modify the smtp server accordingly, switching back to "normal" when out of the coverage of the WIFI network ... not really a big deal for good programmer, a trip to the moon for me ...
thanks anyway for your proposal ... wait and see what clever people will bring to us
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can't you just setup a gmail account, enable it for POP access, and use their provided SMTP server with your gmail username/password? leave incoming via POP on your existing one...
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That wasn't an option for me: my incoming mailserver requires a VPN connection (when using the wifi at work). I think that some internet traffic over the VPN is blocked, preventing me from accessing another SMTP server.
DR400 said:
We can then easily imagine that knowing about an available existing Wifi network, the soft should be able to automatically modify the smtp server accordingly, switching back to "normal" when out of the coverage of the WIFI network ... not really a big deal for good programmer, a trip to the moon for me ...
thanks anyway for your proposal ... wait and see what clever people will bring to us
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Hehe...
The easiest thing would be something more userfriendly that exploits the possibiliy of using the "hosts" file to alter the IP address of the SMTP server (this is how most of the network switching tools on laptops do it). The downside to this approach is that you cannot change logon settings. In order to do this, they need to be able adjust the settings in the mailclient; either via some interface (not sure this is available), or by altering the configuration file.
Jörg
The gmail route absolutely works for me - no mucking about with scripts etc. I followed this link (http://lifehacker.com/software/email-apps/how-to-use-gmail-as-your-smtp-server-111166.php)
only difference is that the smtp is [email protected]. Follow the instructions to set up gmail with your primary address and bingo.
Robert
Hello
I hope I'm posting this in correct area!
I have several WM devices (6.1 and 6.5, Professional and Standard - e.g. Touch 2, Snap, Tytn2), connecting to an exchange server for mail, calendar etc, and they also go through a proxy server for web access .
I want to find an easy way to change proxy server settings on them all without having to go in and manually change proxy server IP address and Port. I've done some searching on here and web in general, and subsequently messed around with creating a CAB file, and an XML provisioning file but neither worked (I found some provider specific proxy settings in registry but maybe these are red herring?)
Then I realised my creations would probably never work anyway because they're unsigned apps which aren't allowed on devices connecting to my exchange server!
Am I missing an obvious and much easier method? Any ideas on best way to approach this?
Thanks in advance
Mantog
Very nice idea, but I don't know a solution.
Where are the IP-adresses stored?
If it works with registry settings, a cab file should be sufficent.
I'm trying to find a way to do this, but hopefully someone already has a solution.
playdo
Hi @ll,
we have a bad problem with our HTC mini clients after active sync settings was change for a couple of hours to personal client certificate. Normally and this settings was change back to our exchange server, the mobile clients sync with basic authentication domain username, domain password and domain name + server adress like the exchange owa: for example: https://webmail.domain.com.
Problem what we know have is, that the mobile client couldn't go back to that basic settings. They coulnd't sync anymore. I can delet the mobile outlook account on the device and reconfigured it, it works. But by more than 250 devices is that a realy bad option. Is there a chance or function to delete a special file or something like a sync cache to get that fixed? thanks to all idears.
You don't tell what version of exchange server use.
If your organization use 2007/2010 Exchange servers it will be the best solution to configure autodiscover service.By the way you should already configured that solution.
After configure autodiscover(it should be running by default) and certificates users should only remove Exchanage sync and reconfigure with typing their user name and passwords.
The key point is to make autodiscover working properly.
What type of firewall you are using ?